EQ and OU copied diablo features, sure not a true MMO but if GW can be classed as MMO so can Diablo.
People dont understand the Genre thing and why all MMO's SHARE ideas.. sad really.
Now thats the biggest bullshit I've ever read here. Do really WoW players and blizzard vanbois think that EQ1 and UO copied features from diablo? Come and name them please give me a good laugh.
EQ and OU copied diablo features, sure not a true MMO but if GW can be classed as MMO so can Diablo.
People dont understand the Genre thing and why all MMO's SHARE ideas.. sad really.
Now thats the biggest bullshit I've ever read here. Do really WoW players and blizzard vanbois think that EQ1 and UO copied features from diablo? Come and name them please give me a good laugh.
Ok here we go
End game raids
Dungeons
Classes
Loot drops
NPC's
Group quests
Sound silly dont it, but Diablo had these before EQ or OU was even developed... so by the peoples "wow is a clone of EQ" logic then EQ is a clone of Diablo because it shares some of these features.
I am just trying to demonstrate how stupid people sound when then rank on about WoW copying/stealing ideas from EQ, when a lot of the stuff in WoW was in diablo ( a blizzard game) to begin with and diablo pre-dates EQ.
End game raids Dungeons Classes Loot drops NPC's Group quests
Sound silly dont it, but Diablo had these before EQ or OU was even developed... so by the peoples "wow is a clone of EQ" logic then EQ is a clone of Diablo because it shares some of these features. I am just trying to demonstrate how stupid people sound when then rank on about WoW copying/stealing ideas from EQ, when a lot of the stuff in WoW was in diablo ( a blizzard game) to begin with and diablo pre-dates EQ.
Ok that was a good laugh, as I thought. Diablo was first that introduced end-game raids? Dungeons? Classes? Loot Drops? NPC? Group quests? )))
Well anyway I was talking at the first place that some MMORPG brought fresh new air into the genre and some just copied its predecessors. I hope i dont need to name all new things that UO or EQ brought. I mean all those little things and details that made them such a great games. But I would like to hear from a wow player what he thinks what feature brought WoW into genre that wasn't used before. Because I can name like 50 what did EQ/UO. Even Lotro has at least a few new additions.
End game raids Dungeons Classes Loot drops NPC's Group quests
Sound silly dont it, but Diablo had these before EQ or OU was even developed... so by the peoples "wow is a clone of EQ" logic then EQ is a clone of Diablo because it shares some of these features. I am just trying to demonstrate how stupid people sound when then rank on about WoW copying/stealing ideas from EQ, when a lot of the stuff in WoW was in diablo ( a blizzard game) to begin with and diablo pre-dates EQ.
Ok that was a good laugh, as I thought. Diablo was first that introduced end-game raids? Dungeons? Classes? Loot Drops? NPC? Group quests? )))
Well anyway I was talking at the first place that some MMORPG brought fresh new air into the genre and some just copied its predecessors. I hope i dont need to name all new things that UO or EQ brought. I mean all those little things and details that made them such a great games. But I would like to hear from a wow player what he thinks what feature brought WoW into genre that wasn't used before. Because I can name like 50 what did EQ/UO. Even Lotro has at least a few new additions.
Never said Diablo was the first, just that it pre-dates EQ.... and I never said WoW brought anything new but it sure did redefine the MMO, since WoW bugs and broken features just are not acceptable.
A list unique features a good game makes not, quality and fun does and WoW ticks those boxes. IMHO
WoW brought Quality and million of people into the MMO genre
Never said Diablo was the first, just that it pre-dates EQ.... and I never said WoW brought anything new but it sure did redefine the MMO, since WoW bugs and broken features just are not acceptable.
A list unique features a good game makes not, quality and fun does and WoW ticks those boxes. IMHO WoW brought Quality and million of people into the MMO genre
Thats always a bad thing. Everything that masses like is crap in any sort of art (music, film, games, books..) mostly because the critical thinking level of an average person is just so terribly low.
But if you like to do what masses do, dress the same as most of others... then yeh WoW is fantastic for you. It is catchy it has everything what masses like.
one of the bigest reasons why some people say wow is a bad game is usualy a. because they cant aford it and dont want others who play the to think theyre jealos b. because theyre not aloud but evan lovers of the game have to admit it costs too much
Beatiful example of average person's critical thinking! Thanks for that!
I hate Wow. I hate it for the people that play and say every other mmo is just a cheap copy of WoW. I hate it for the community. I hate it for the graphics. I hate it for...Well i just hate it.
You know. . .hate is such a strong word for a frickin game. You 'hate' a game? When you hate something, it's usually because they did something to you. Did WoW beat you up? Or did it steal your girl from you? Probably not, if it did, then props to it. But you just don't like WoW, or your just jelouse of what the game has become.
Which leads to my next point. Since when did MMO's become a job? WoW is a game and hell it's fun. People say they want harder games, well that's not going to happen anytime soon. Sure UO and EQ were 'the days', but everything that starts something off were only that, beta childeren. People played it because they were new to the gaming scene. Now MMO's have been out for a couple of years and we expect more out of it. Less grind, better quests, better PvP. To get this and satisfy the mass gamers, they have to make the game easy and fun for everyone. Then when people play games like WoW and say "well, I didn't want it THAT hard." Ok....now you go back on your words? WoW is what MMo's will be for years to come. Even though we have games coming along to change the scene a bit, like Age of Conan and Darkfall. . .you can only guess that the only way they will succeed is if they follow the game pace that WoW has created.
Ultima Online proved that the mass people out there want a safe and easy game, a-la Everquest. You might always say that you want a harder game that makes your grind all the nights away, but the numbers don't lie. Gamers just want that, a game. A game is something fun and easy to enjoy. We don't need a Job. Sure I enjoyed UO to no end. I loved the PvP and the PvE was out of this world. The deaths were scarry and losing my stuff?!?!? Wow, too much for me these days. People don't have the patience they used to have, and they barely had it back in the day. Proven when EQ came out and alot of the UOers flocked to EQ.
So stop going around bashing WoW and saying you "hate" the game. Everytime you say you hate a game, remember exactly what your saying. It's a game, and games are suppost to be fun. Don't like the easy joyment of the ride? Then I guess this genre is not what you want. Because that is what it is going to turn into. Accept it or not, the numbers don't lie.
/played-mmorpgs
Total time played:9125 Days, 21 Hours, 29 Minutes, 27 Seconds Time played this level: 39 Days, 1 Hour, 24 Minutes, 5 Seconds
Never said Diablo was the first, just that it pre-dates EQ.... and I never said WoW brought anything new but it sure did redefine the MMO, since WoW bugs and broken features just are not acceptable.
A list unique features a good game makes not, quality and fun does and WoW ticks those boxes. IMHO WoW brought Quality and million of people into the MMO genre
Thats always a bad thing. Everything that masses like is crap in any sort of art (music, film, games, books..) mostly because the critical thinking level of an average person is just so terribly low.
But if you like to do what masses do, dress the same as most of others... then yeh WoW is fantastic for you. It is catchy it has everything what masses like.
That makes about as much sense as those saying because tons play it is the greatest, guess what you saying that it sucks because a ton play it is just as untrue!
Never said Diablo was the first, just that it pre-dates EQ.... and I never said WoW brought anything new but it sure did redefine the MMO, since WoW bugs and broken features just are not acceptable.
A list unique features a good game makes not, quality and fun does and WoW ticks those boxes. IMHO WoW brought Quality and million of people into the MMO genre
Thats always a bad thing. Everything that masses like is crap in any sort of art (music, film, games, books..) mostly because the critical thinking level of an average person is just so terribly low.
But if you like to do what masses do, dress the same as most of others... then yeh WoW is fantastic for you. It is catchy it has everything what masses like.
That makes about as much sense as those saying because tons play it is the greatest, guess what you saying that it sucks because a ton play it is just as untrue!
Yeh I'm trying to say that. Its because the products must have something that appeals on mass market, which is certainly against quality. If you can give me an example of a product that is much more succesful then its competition and has a high quality I would reconsider this.
What most of you "pro" WoW players have problems understanding is that most of the "anti" WoW people here has actually played WoW, maxed out their character, raided for endless hours and tried the sorry excuse for pvp just to realise how boring the game is compared to the other mmo's they've played.
I do not speak for all mankind but I think many will agree with me that WoW is a great "first" mmorpg, like a mmorpg for dummies. But for those who have been gaming mmo's since eq1 and uo, wow brings nothing new to the table.
I just love that first paragraph, which I have heard numerous times about multiple games. Its says to summarize that you put endless hours (which you obviously enjoyed or wouldnt have invetsed all that time in) into the game. After which you were burnt out and or no longer got anything out of the game that you needed enjoyment wise, so know you are "anti" WoW! Hmm......something just seems kinda off there! lol
Anyone who puts that much time into something and then "suddenly realizes" that they don't like it, is not to be trusted, especially not to give objective opinions about anything.
Still waiting for your Holy Grail MMORPG? Interesting...
main problem with wow imo, is that it is so wikky wakky.. the pvp balance is just bad, the world pvp is horrible (its like the game have no rules at all, and players are suppost to have same hp/defence/resistance as mobs.
and all the pvp you end up with is the same pvp battleground over and over... just as boring as do pve raiding.
all they need to do to fix it, is to do like eq2 --> different effects on spells/abilities in pve & pvp, and how big the lvl difference can be, to be alble to engage in pvp combat..
you cant call it pvp, when a lvl 70 gank a lvl10... thats simply just Epic Boss vs critter combat..
Yeh I'm trying to say that. Its because the products must have something that appeals on mass market, which is certainly against quality. If you can give me an example of a product that is much more succesful then its competition and has a high quality I would reconsider this.
Coca-Cola is the leading Coke brand and probably the best quality too. with Pepsi coming close.
main problem with wow imo, is that it is so wikky wakky.. the pvp balance is just bad, the world pvp is horrible (its like the game have no rules at all, and players are suppost to have same hp/defence/resistance as mobs. Balance is fine, I guess you expect a holy spec priest to kill a fury spec warrior dont you and all the pvp you end up with is the same pvp battleground over and over... just as boring as do pve raiding. Welcome to MMOs, but you could set up an Arena team and try and win each season. all they need to do to fix it, is to do like eq2 --> different effects on spells/abilities in pve & pvp, and how big the lvl difference can be, to be alble to engage in pvp combat.. There are different effects, mainly in Crowd control mechanics, see below for your 2nd part. you cant call it pvp, when a lvl 70 gank a lvl10... thats simply just Epic Boss vs critter combat.. Play the game please, a lvl 70 cannot attack a lvl 10, theres a 10 level erm barrier, player is 10 levels below you, you cannot attack him.
Yeh I'm trying to say that. Its because the products must have something that appeals on mass market, which is certainly against quality. If you can give me an example of a product that is much more succesful then its competition and has a high quality I would reconsider this.
Coca-Cola is the leading Coke brand and probably the best quality too. with Pepsi coming close.
main problem with wow imo, is that it is so wikky wakky.. the pvp balance is just bad, the world pvp is horrible (its like the game have no rules at all, and players are suppost to have same hp/defence/resistance as mobs. Balance is fine, I guess you expect a holy spec priest to kill a fury spec warrior dont you i rather die to a skilled holy priest,than die to a noob, who bought his character with good gear on ebay! and all the pvp you end up with is the same pvp battleground over and over... just as boring as do pve raiding. Welcome to MMOs, but you could set up an Arena team and try and win each season. this is like the only mmo with this boredom, outher games got pvp with some kind of ashevement.. wow got like nothing after TBC! all they need to do to fix it, is to do like eq2 --> different effects on spells/abilities in pve & pvp, and how big the lvl difference can be, to be alble to engage in pvp combat.. There are different effects, mainly in Crowd control mechanics, see below for your 2nd part. yeah right, and what on earth does cc has to do with what i sayd? what i sayd whas, different effects, that means if a dammage attack does -- weapon dammage + 140 on a mob, it could do something like weapon dammage + 70 on a player. you cant call it pvp, when a lvl 70 gank a lvl10... thats simply just Epic Boss vs critter combat.. Play the game please, a lvl 70 cannot attack a lvl 10, theres a 10 level erm barrier, player is 10 levels below you, you cannot attack him. played wow sence may 2005, bought eq2 june 2005.. played both in periodes,, eq2 got this yes (when pvp got released) wow got it in bg yes (changed from 21-30 to 20-29 .. wow does not got this in world pvp.. because i still could gank a lvl 10 in barrens with my 70 tauren warrior.. so that is bullshit (and that is not longer than 2 months ago)
main problem with wow imo, is that it is so wikky wakky.. the pvp balance is just bad, the world pvp is horrible (its like the game have no rules at all, and players are suppost to have same hp/defence/resistance as mobs. Balance is fine, I guess you expect a holy spec priest to kill a fury spec warrior dont you i rather die to a skilled holy priest,than die to a noob, who bought his character with good gear on ebay! What has that to do with pvp balance? and all the pvp you end up with is the same pvp battleground over and over... just as boring as do pve raiding. Welcome to MMOs, but you could set up an Arena team and try and win each season. this is like the only mmo with this boredom, outher games got pvp with some kind of ashevement.. wow got like nothing after TBC! WoW PvP achievement is gear, and some small world benefits, such as taking control of Halaa and the spirit towers that offer quests and items to the faction controlling them, WoW is PvE not PvP always been that way. all they need to do to fix it, is to do like eq2 --> different effects on spells/abilities in pve & pvp, and how big the lvl difference can be, to be alble to engage in pvp combat.. There are different effects, mainly in Crowd control mechanics, see below for your 2nd part. yeah right, and what on earth does cc has to do with what i sayd? what i sayd whas, different effects, that means if a dammage attack does -- weapon dammage + 140 on a mob, it could do something like weapon dammage + 70 on a player. Cus in PvE a mage sheep for example last 30 secs in PvP it lasts 10 seconds with dimishing returns. you cant call it pvp, when a lvl 70 gank a lvl10... thats simply just Epic Boss vs critter combat.. Play the game please, a lvl 70 cannot attack a lvl 10, theres a 10 level erm barrier, player is 10 levels below you, you cannot attack him. than thats something new that came not long ago! Been that way from day 1, I suggest you play the game some time.
Never said Diablo was the first, just that it pre-dates EQ.... and I never said WoW brought anything new but it sure did redefine the MMO, since WoW bugs and broken features just are not acceptable.
A list unique features a good game makes not, quality and fun does and WoW ticks those boxes. IMHO WoW brought Quality and million of people into the MMO genre
Thats always a bad thing. Everything that masses like is crap in any sort of art (music, film, games, books..) mostly because the critical thinking level of an average person is just so terribly low.
But if you like to do what masses do, dress the same as most of others... then yeh WoW is fantastic for you. It is catchy it has everything what masses like.
That makes about as much sense as those saying because tons play it is the greatest, guess what you saying that it sucks because a ton play it is just as untrue!
Yeh I'm trying to say that. Its because the products must have something that appeals on mass market, which is certainly against quality. If you can give me an example of a product that is much more succesful then its competition and has a high quality I would reconsider this.
Nike is my prime example of a largely popular product produced for the masses and has equal or HIGHER level of quality than it's competition. Plenty of Brands out there that pride themselves on the quality aspects of their product. Music may be another. Most music is mass produced. Low quality music can be just as popular as High quality music. Books. As far as recent publications, I tend to think that the good books out there maybe just as high/ low quality as popular ones which in itself may be one or the other.
( I also have to go with some electronics too, ie : a Sony television will probably be better than TP for tv television). What kinda car do you drive? I'm pretty sure you don't drive a Daewoo(not taking anything from Daewoo, but there are probably better car companies out there THAT ARE WIDELY MORE POPULAR.
Besides, in the video game world everything is in the eye of the beholder. IT'S ALL OPINION'S. Just because a game fits into particular niche doesn't make it a better quality game. There is a plethora of widely popular games out there that are in high quality and define it's genre. Take splinter cell for instance. Very high quality stealth game imo. Very popular too.
I agree with you. Nothing comes close to WoW these days and the future list of games don't look anywhere near as good as WoW. maybe only WAR but nothing will get close.
I agree with you. Nothing comes close to WoW these days and the future list of games don't look anywhere near as good as WoW. maybe only WAR but nothing will get close.
Dont think so .
Although i had played wow for several months and infact had some fun i disagree with the above because
1)Blizzard had already a good name on market with many games that all internet cafe stores had them in most of the countries so it was easy for blizzard to make a success even with problematic launch because most of people(that played wow and was there 1 mmo) where new on online games ,they also because of type of game have done well on asian market .
2)Blizzard had made very good marketing moves (you could find wow almost every where) and it was children friendly and easy to play
3)Becauseof 1 and 2 and game card also helped ,so many 10 -17 came on game and results where imature community .Most of the players play for a while (2-3 months) then they stop and after a while coming back cause even if they cansel for 5 months and return they will not lose anything.
I am sure wow isnt best and there are better mmo's that there companies havent done so good job on marketing (advertisement,distribution of product etc),so you cant expect there game sold by magic.
Even blizzard wasnt expecting so much of a success .But after tbc went out (a lousy xpac with a lot of grind that took so much time to go live (2 years)} they are doing things faster cause of so many alternatives that are coming out soon and already anounced their next expansion in order to cut off some loses.
Judge a game from his content ,company services ,community,graphics ,music,gameplay ,lore,server stability and not from his successfull marketing policy .
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Now thats the biggest bullshit I've ever read here. Do really WoW players and blizzard vanbois think that EQ1 and UO copied features from diablo? Come and name them please give me a good laugh.
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Ok here we goNow thats the biggest bullshit I've ever read here. Do really WoW players and blizzard vanbois think that EQ1 and UO copied features from diablo? Come and name them please give me a good laugh.
Sound silly dont it, but Diablo had these before EQ or OU was even developed... so by the peoples "wow is a clone of EQ" logic then EQ is a clone of Diablo because it shares some of these features.
I am just trying to demonstrate how stupid people sound when then rank on about WoW copying/stealing ideas from EQ, when a lot of the stuff in WoW was in diablo ( a blizzard game) to begin with and diablo pre-dates EQ
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Well anyway I was talking at the first place that some MMORPG brought fresh new air into the genre and some just copied its predecessors. I hope i dont need to name all new things that UO or EQ brought. I mean all those little things and details that made them such a great games. But I would like to hear from a wow player what he thinks what feature brought WoW into genre that wasn't used before. Because I can name like 50 what did EQ/UO. Even Lotro has at least a few new additions.
REALITY CHECK
Well anyway I was talking at the first place that some MMORPG brought fresh new air into the genre and some just copied its predecessors. I hope i dont need to name all new things that UO or EQ brought. I mean all those little things and details that made them such a great games. But I would like to hear from a wow player what he thinks what feature brought WoW into genre that wasn't used before. Because I can name like 50 what did EQ/UO. Even Lotro has at least a few new additions.
Never said Diablo was the first, just that it pre-dates EQ.... and I never said WoW brought anything new but it sure did redefine the MMO, since WoW bugs and broken features just are not acceptable.A list unique features a good game makes not, quality and fun does and WoW ticks those boxes. IMHO
WoW brought Quality and million of people into the MMO genre
But if you like to do what masses do, dress the same as most of others... then yeh WoW is fantastic for you. It is catchy it has everything what masses like.
REALITY CHECK
one of the bigest reasons why some people say wow is a bad game is usualy
a. because they cant aford it and dont want others who play the to think theyre jealos
b. because theyre not aloud
but evan lovers of the game have to admit it costs too much
Beatiful example of average person's critical thinking! Thanks for that!
REALITY CHECK
You know. . .hate is such a strong word for a frickin game. You 'hate' a game? When you hate something, it's usually because they did something to you. Did WoW beat you up? Or did it steal your girl from you? Probably not, if it did, then props to it. But you just don't like WoW, or your just jelouse of what the game has become.
Which leads to my next point. Since when did MMO's become a job? WoW is a game and hell it's fun. People say they want harder games, well that's not going to happen anytime soon. Sure UO and EQ were 'the days', but everything that starts something off were only that, beta childeren. People played it because they were new to the gaming scene. Now MMO's have been out for a couple of years and we expect more out of it. Less grind, better quests, better PvP. To get this and satisfy the mass gamers, they have to make the game easy and fun for everyone. Then when people play games like WoW and say "well, I didn't want it THAT hard." Ok....now you go back on your words? WoW is what MMo's will be for years to come. Even though we have games coming along to change the scene a bit, like Age of Conan and Darkfall. . .you can only guess that the only way they will succeed is if they follow the game pace that WoW has created.
Ultima Online proved that the mass people out there want a safe and easy game, a-la Everquest. You might always say that you want a harder game that makes your grind all the nights away, but the numbers don't lie. Gamers just want that, a game. A game is something fun and easy to enjoy. We don't need a Job. Sure I enjoyed UO to no end. I loved the PvP and the PvE was out of this world. The deaths were scarry and losing my stuff?!?!? Wow, too much for me these days. People don't have the patience they used to have, and they barely had it back in the day. Proven when EQ came out and alot of the UOers flocked to EQ.
So stop going around bashing WoW and saying you "hate" the game. Everytime you say you hate a game, remember exactly what your saying. It's a game, and games are suppost to be fun. Don't like the easy joyment of the ride? Then I guess this genre is not what you want. Because that is what it is going to turn into. Accept it or not, the numbers don't lie.
Total time played: 9125 Days, 21 Hours, 29 Minutes, 27 Seconds
Time played this level: 39 Days, 1 Hour, 24 Minutes, 5 Seconds
But if you like to do what masses do, dress the same as most of others... then yeh WoW is fantastic for you. It is catchy it has everything what masses like.
That makes about as much sense as those saying because tons play it is the greatest, guess what you saying that it sucks because a ton play it is just as untrue!
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But if you like to do what masses do, dress the same as most of others... then yeh WoW is fantastic for you. It is catchy it has everything what masses like.
That makes about as much sense as those saying because tons play it is the greatest, guess what you saying that it sucks because a ton play it is just as untrue!
Yeh I'm trying to say that. Its because the products must have something that appeals on mass market, which is certainly against quality. If you can give me an example of a product that is much more succesful then its competition and has a high quality I would reconsider this.
REALITY CHECK
I just love that first paragraph, which I have heard numerous times about multiple games. Its says to summarize that you put endless hours (which you obviously enjoyed or wouldnt have invetsed all that time in) into the game. After which you were burnt out and or no longer got anything out of the game that you needed enjoyment wise, so know you are "anti" WoW! Hmm......something just seems kinda off there! lol
No signature, I don't have a pen
Anyone who puts that much time into something and then "suddenly realizes" that they don't like it, is not to be trusted, especially not to give objective opinions about anything.
Still waiting for your Holy Grail MMORPG? Interesting...
main problem with wow imo, is that it is so wikky wakky.. the pvp balance is just bad, the world pvp is horrible (its like the game have no rules at all, and players are suppost to have same hp/defence/resistance as mobs.
and all the pvp you end up with is the same pvp battleground over and over... just as boring as do pve raiding.
all they need to do to fix it, is to do like eq2 --> different effects on spells/abilities in pve & pvp, and how big the lvl difference can be, to be alble to engage in pvp combat..
you cant call it pvp, when a lvl 70 gank a lvl10... thats simply just Epic Boss vs critter combat..
Time to reconsider I think
Time to reconsider I think
ehh.. no.. its a cola brand not a coke brand.
eve is better
( I also have to go with some electronics too, ie : a Sony television will probably be better than TP for tv television). What kinda car do you drive? I'm pretty sure you don't drive a Daewoo(not taking anything from Daewoo, but there are probably better car companies out there THAT ARE WIDELY MORE POPULAR.
Besides, in the video game world everything is in the eye of the beholder. IT'S ALL OPINION'S. Just because a game fits into particular niche doesn't make it a better quality game. There is a plethora of widely popular games out there that are in high quality and define it's genre. Take splinter cell for instance. Very high quality stealth game imo. Very popular too.
wow is the best
I agree with you. Nothing comes close to WoW these days and the future list of games don't look anywhere near as good as WoW. maybe only WAR but nothing will get close.
I agree with you. Nothing comes close to WoW these days and the future list of games don't look anywhere near as good as WoW. maybe only WAR but nothing will get close.
Dont think so .
Although i had played wow for several months and infact had some fun i disagree with the above because
1)Blizzard had already a good name on market with many games that all internet cafe stores had them in most of the countries so it was easy for blizzard to make a success even with problematic launch because most of people(that played wow and was there 1 mmo) where new on online games ,they also because of type of game have done well on asian market .
2)Blizzard had made very good marketing moves (you could find wow almost every where) and it was children friendly and easy to play
3)Becauseof 1 and 2 and game card also helped ,so many 10 -17 came on game and results where imature community .Most of the players play for a while (2-3 months) then they stop and after a while coming back cause even if they cansel for 5 months and return they will not lose anything.
I am sure wow isnt best and there are better mmo's that there companies havent done so good job on marketing (advertisement,distribution of product etc),so you cant expect there game sold by magic.
Even blizzard wasnt expecting so much of a success .But after tbc went out (a lousy xpac with a lot of grind that took so much time to go live (2 years)} they are doing things faster cause of so many alternatives that are coming out soon and already anounced their next expansion in order to cut off some loses.
Judge a game from his content ,company services ,community,graphics ,music,gameplay ,lore,server stability and not from his successfull marketing policy .