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who's the best villian ever?

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  • Pr0ph37Pr0ph37 Member Posts: 5

    Okay my votes

    Cheradenine Zakalwe from Iain M Banks' "Use of Weapons". Guy is a mercenary for hire who goes from world to world interfering with governments. He's an thief, an assassin and a murderer, completely a-moral. He's also a war criminal having stolen the identity of his best friend, who he killed. In a battle once cornered the love of his life went to him to negotiate a peace. He killed her, used her bones to make a chair, and her skin to make a cushion stuffed with her own red hair. Irony he's the hero of the book.

    The Crippled God from Steven Eriksson's Malazan Book of the Fallen. Deeply twisted and cunning. Corrupting the hearts of beings, bending the broken to his will, seriously evil d00d. Gives incredible power to an ambitious warrior, including eternal life, but there's a catch, everytime he dies he becomes more powerful when he returns, but the pain of every death he suffers is driving the man insane.

    Malazan Books are well worth a look.

    As for Iconic evil:

    Agent Smith (Matrix)

     

     

     

     

  • dhartzdhartz Member Posts: 482

    Hello ?! Dr.Evil is the best villian ever.

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  • nurglesnurgles Member Posts: 840

    Originally posted by Pr0ph37


    Okay my votes
    Cheradenine Zakalwe from Iain M Banks' "Use of Weapons". Guy is a mercenary for hire who goes from world to world interfering with governments. He's an thief, an assassin and a murderer, completely a-moral. He's also a war criminal having stolen the identity of his best friend, who he killed. In a battle once cornered the love of his life went to him to negotiate a peace. He killed her, used her bones to make a chair, and her skin to make a cushion stuffed with her own red hair. Irony he's the hero of the book.
    The Crippled God from Steven Eriksson's Malazan Book of the Fallen. Deeply twisted and cunning. Corrupting the hearts of beings, bending the broken to his will, seriously evil d00d. Gives incredible power to an ambitious warrior, including eternal life, but there's a catch, everytime he dies he becomes more powerful when he returns, but the pain of every death he suffers is driving the man insane.
    Malazan Books are well worth a look.
    As for Iconic evil:
    Agent Smith (Matrix)
     
    Zakalwe is definately up there. i guess what takes him down from that top notch of real eveil is that he is repentant in that his own mind rejects that evil acts that he has performed.

     

    As to the Malazan books, i was trying tio think of someone truely evil from them, the problem is that all of the characters have really complex motivations. Even the crippled god, his origins make him a sympathetic if astoundingly tragic character. but without a doubt, the best fantasy literature out there is this series

     

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  • modjoe86modjoe86 Member UncommonPosts: 4,050

    Dr. Claw from Inspector Gadget?

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  • therain93therain93 Member UncommonPosts: 2,039

    Angelus from buffy the vampire slayer -- he's soulless and wicked bad.  (And yes, I realize I've also cited Sylar and Jack Bauer's dad but my brain keeps floating off to the other characters.)

  • METALDRAG0NMETALDRAG0N Member Posts: 1,680

    I still say Pinhead from Clive barkers Hellraiser is a great Bad Guy.

    He has no redeeming qualities, and he is a Daemon lord as well.

     

    Plus he is into daemonic S&M.

    "Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."
    -- Jean Rostand

  • grimweepergrimweeper Member Posts: 2,047

    i change my mind, i think jules from pulp fiction is the best/worst villian i mean who else carries a wallet around that says "bad mother fucker"

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  • DekronDekron Member UncommonPosts: 7,359

    I got you all beat. Here is the ending of this list.

    For us men, the all time number one villian would be Alex Forrest from Fatal Attraction.

    In general, the number one villain would be HAL 9000.

  • FilipinoFuryFilipinoFury Member Posts: 1,056

    Now that I really think about it. . . .

    I'd have to change my answer to Alex DeLarge from A Clockwork Orange, either that or what somebody else said, Hannibal Lecter.

    What about Heroes? Atticus Finch.

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  • modjoe86modjoe86 Member UncommonPosts: 4,050
    Originally posted by FilipinoFury


    Now that I really think about it. . . .
    I'd have to change my answer to Alex DeLarge from A Clockwork Orange, either that or what somebody else said, Hannibal Lecter.
    What about Heroes? Atticus Finch.

    Good call on Atticus, though Boo Radley could be just as big of a hero in that book.

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  • asangarasangar Member Posts: 75

    OMG How has no one on this entire thread mentioned Legado Bluesummers.... seriously any guy who would take out a gang of over 1000 people and only leave 1 person to bury them all is just a plain BAMF!!! And as far as his equal I would have to go with sephiroth.. I mean how did dearth vader even make this list, he turns out to be good in the end..... gah..

  • wyvexwyvex Member UncommonPosts: 346

    the company AOL is a pretty good villain. there pretty evil too

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  • GalupaGalupa Member Posts: 203

    Walter, or The man in Black, from the dark tower books.

    Honestly those books have so many great villians, just take your pick!

    oh no, i've lost my stars!

    "The new age is upon us, yet the past refuses to rest in its shallow grave."

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