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why is it rated high?

LOTRO is rated high because some of the players think it is a fun game. Get in a good kinship, and it's even better. Now, mind you, I am a casual player, I play maybe 8-10 hrs. per week. Also, as a Tolkien fan, I may be a bit biased. But, the graphics are good, the lore is there, the classes are acceptable, and the quests are well done and fun. Plus, Turbine is really good with updates. They add content on a regular basis. I mean, for those who don't like it, that's cool, but as a casual MMOer, I think the game is a blast.

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  • GreenT-ShirtGreenT-Shirt Member Posts: 35

    I personally think LOTRO is the best MMO out right now, everything that Turbine did to the game worked out perfectly. The crafting system it self is soo unique, and the graphics are just jaw dropping for an MMO you can get some real beautiful screenshots.

  • JuvanteJuvante Member Posts: 88

       Lol!  The best mmo?  Everything Turbine did was perfect?  Lol right right, that made me laugh.  Also the part about the crafting system being soooo unique, please elaborate how the crafting system is so unique, please.  Because it flat out isn't.  It also has a one time use recipe system, what a joke.

     

    Graphics are not the most important factor in making a great game.  They never were and never will be.

  • cptnj4cptnj4 Member Posts: 168

    I would also really like to know what the poster above thinks is unique about the crafting system in this game?  In my opinion its pretty bland.  I will agree that the game is pretty but that is about all I can say that I actually liked about the game.  The questing is extremely linear, there is virtually no replayability as after you reach say level 10 or 15 everyone is going to be on the same set of quests to progress.   I don't know, I just found the game fairly shallow and bland. 

  • KrileonKrileon Member Posts: 314

    I had a good experience up untill the high end. As a casual player waiting for more players to catch up so forming a group doesn't take 3hours was absolutely just pathetic. The player just isn't there, because it's scattered accross to many servers.

    Turbine was hoping for a big leap from WoW to LOTRO and getting a huge player base at the beginning (the same mistake Vanguard did), but it didn't happen. This hurt them more then helped. Now their player base is scattered accross to many servers for anything to really be accomplished.

    The best solution for any MMO is to make 1 SERVER! Just 1 single server, BUT provide multiple instances of each zone(Guild Wars method for towns, except do it for the entire game). This allows people to get groups at all hours of the day regardless of where they live and what time it is.

    I'm developing my own game (not an MMO.. sick of MMOs..) and you're telling me these big companies can't do this? HAH what a joke. The network code isn't that hard if you have the programmers to back it (with their resources.. I guarantee they do.) So what's the problem here? Not sure, but do whatever they please. I don't care.

    As of now I currently play no MMO. None can hold my interest. It's all just the same crap over and over. I'm going to try AoC and Tabula Rasa, because they'll have a bit more unique gameplay hopefully.

    Was playing CoX (CoV & CoH), but got bored to quickly. I used to play Auto Assault a long time ago, which was a good game, but yet again too many servers and the player based was scattered to badly.. sad too.. that game was fun..

    May seam weird, but I miss Earth and Beyond.. now that was a good space game.. some liked it.. some didn't.. too many servers combined with EA stupidity was its downfall though. Sad ending.

    Never tried EVE and never will. To much bad publisity/drama spews from that game/company so i'll stay way.

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  • Die_ScreamDie_Scream Member Posts: 1,785

    Best MMO out there?? I'll give that the graphics are very nice, even stunning sometimes for sure.

    But thats where it ends for me. Crafting is unique? Crafting in LOTRO is the same as every other thing in LOTRO, watered down, bland and way to easy.

    I probably would have agreed with the OP in my first two or three weeks in the game, but it suddenly became incredibly boring in the course of about a couple days. No real xp for random mobs? No better drop table for elites, or better xp? Forced to depend on others to craft? You can use alts to mule for you in crafting, but they punish you by charging insane mail fees.

    The game is a series of waypoints. You start at A, then quests grey out, you move to B, quests grey out you move to C..etc.

    You lvl up, hmm, what skills should I pick? Oh, I don't get to pick, I just unlock a couple skills and buy them. You can grind stupid amounts of low xp mobs to get a trait which might alter a stat somewhat, but even that grind is pointless, because, you guessed it, everyone also must grind out that same trait.

    You don't create a charactor in the world, you unlock what the devs decided you will be.

    Best MMO out there? Ha! LOTRO barely fits the "RPG" portion of MMORPG.

    But yeah, its pretty to look at

  • seabass2003seabass2003 Member Posts: 4,144

    Well according to everyone on MMORPG.com its rated high because no one knows how to vote correctly.

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  • jatrix32jatrix32 Member Posts: 7

    What mmo is better? That's what I want to know. Please don't say WOW. Please, Please don't say WOW.

    First of all, If you don't know how to control the skill of your toon via Deeds, Skills and gear, then this game is too much for your brain to handle...go back to the cartoon time sink that WOW is.

    No better drop rate off Elites?? are you kidding, did you even play?

    Forced to depend on other to craft. DUHHHHH, thats what makes it unique.  Thats what makes it different. You can't just pick a craft and race to 300 so you can start rapeing people in the AH.

    Series of Wayoints....Not sure I should even comment on this...what game is. Holy shit WOW has that damn guide that basically takes you from A to B to C etc.....Come on

    You don't have to grind traits. I am a healing class...why would I be out grinding deeds to increas my Might? I wouldn't foo.

    Go back to WOW...please. Gank people and run instances 8,000 times. Have fun.

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  • cptnj4cptnj4 Member Posts: 168



    What mmo is better? EQ2, EVE, COX, UO, DAOC all qualify as better MMO's in my opinion. 
    First of all, If you don't know how to control the skill of your toon via Deeds, Skills and gear, then this game is too much for your brain to handle...go back to the cartoon time sink that WOW is.
    No better drop rate off Elites?? are you kidding, did you even play?
    Forced to depend on other to craft. DUHHHHH, thats what makes it unique.  Thats what makes it different. You can't just pick a craft and race to 300 so you can start rapeing people in the AH.    Just having to depend on another craft doesn't make it interesting. 
    Series of Wayoints....Not sure I should even comment on this...what game is. Holy shit WOW has that damn guide that basically takes you from A to B to C etc.....Come on   At least WoW gives you more than one zone to level in after the intro levels and more than one set of quests if you reroll new characters. 
    You don't have to grind traits. I am a healing class...why would I be out grinding deeds to increas my Might? I wouldn't foo.  Or maybe you would...
    Go back to WOW...please. Gank people and run instances 8,000 times. Have fun.    Maybe he should because the replayability of this game is non existent.

     

  • Die_ScreamDie_Scream Member Posts: 1,785

    Originally posted by jatrix32


    What mmo is better? That's what I want to know. Please don't say WOW. Please, Please don't say WOW.
    First of all, If you don't know how to control the skill of your toon via Deeds, Skills and gear, then this game is too much for your brain to handle...go back to the cartoon time sink that WOW is.
    No better drop rate off Elites?? are you kidding, did you even play?
    Forced to depend on other to craft. DUHHHHH, thats what makes it unique.  Thats what makes it different. You can't just pick a craft and race to 300 so you can start rapeing people in the AH.
    Series of Wayoints....Not sure I should even comment on this...what game is. Holy shit WOW has that damn guide that basically takes you from A to B to C etc.....Come on
    You don't have to grind traits. I am a healing class...why would I be out grinding deeds to increas my Might? I wouldn't foo.
    Go back to WOW...please. Gank people and run instances 8,000 times. Have fun.
    I normally wouldn't bother responding to this idiotic post, as it may give jatrix32 some credibility, but here goes:

    First of all, you seem to be obsessed with WoW, you mention it in all your bashing posts I have seen defending LOTRO. No one brought WoW into this discussion but you.

    Control the skill set? WTF does that mean genius? You level up, the game assigns you skills you may buy. You have unlocked some new skills, you don't choose them, you buy all that are available - zero choice. Its just a matter of if you have the silver to buy them.

    You do not get better drops from fighting an orange elite in the field than you would from any other mob. You can say so, but you do like to exagerate don't you? The xp is pathetic compared to the time and "effort" it takes to kill one too.

    Having to depend on others to complete a simple (yet useless, since the quest-grind always gives better equipment) piece of crafting is anything but unique fool, its just annoying.  I'm not sure what AH you frequent, but I haven't seen the "rape" emote. You might be thinking of late-night rest stops.

    Again, third time if i'm not mstaken you bring up WoW about the linear, rail driven gameplay I mentioned. LOTRO is based on books, so I assume thats why the game plays like one. You finish a page (or specific zone), you go to the next. Same everytime you read the book, or play this game, even with different classes...Rails I say!

    You are too...umm..how shall I put this delicately..ah! You are to damn stupid to realize that every other Minstrel in the game is grinding the same traits you are, so at 50, you can be identical to every other Minstrel in the game, wee.

    Ahh the pinnical of intelligent come backs..The fabled "Go back to WoW" defence! Gee, thats a hard one to top, I mean, look how well it worked for the Vanbois, they have a bunch of barren servers, it works so well.

    You like your game, good for you.  Unfortunately you really suck at trying to defend it.

    See you in three weeks when you are posting about how boring the game is.

     

  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321
    Originally posted by Die_Scream


     


    You are too...umm..how shall I put this delicately..ah! You are to damn stupid to realize that every other Minstrel in the game is grinding the same traits you are, so at 50, you can be identical to every other Minstrel in the game, wee.


    See if you can follow me on this one. Different traits for different play styles. It's a hard concept to grasp coming from games like EQII where everyone is the same or a gear oriented game like WoW but in LoTRO you can tailor your gear and traits to suit your play style. As a lvl 50 minstrel I actually have 2 complete sets of gear and will even change out my traits at a bard on weekends when I plan on doing a lot of heavy grouping in instances or PvMP. Yeah I can solo with that gear but I have to rely more on my heals than I do with my "solo" gear and traits. In solo mode I balance strength, agility, will, vitality and fate. In group mode I go pure fate and will.

    I miss DAoC

  • Die_ScreamDie_Scream Member Posts: 1,785

     

    Originally posted by Jackdog

    Originally posted by Die_Scream


     


    You are too...umm..how shall I put this delicately..ah! You are to damn stupid to realize that every other Minstrel in the game is grinding the same traits you are, so at 50, you can be identical to every other Minstrel in the game, wee.


    See if you can follow me on this one. Different traits for different play styles. It's a hard concept to grasp coming from games like EQII where everyone is the same or a gear oriented game like WoW but in LoTRO you can tailor your gear and traits to suit your play style. As a lvl 50 minstrel I actually have 2 complete sets of gear and will even change out my traits at a bard on weekends when I plan on doing a lot of heavy grouping in instances or PvMP. Yeah I can solo with that gear but I have to rely more on my heals than I do with my "solo" gear and traits. In solo mode I balance strength, agility, will, vitality and fate. In group mode I go pure fate and will.

    Oh I follow you Jack, I have read most all your posts on the game, and grats on 50 BTW.

     

    I like my rewards, main rewards, when I ding, not mind-numbing grinding of traits for hours on end to differentiate my avatar. When you go to a trainer upon lvling, you should be making choices, you should have to consider, what do I want to specialize in? Instead its ho-hum. "Well, lets see what i'm allowed to take, oh, I unlocked 2 skills" You buy them, not fun.

    I usually have two sets of gear in all MMOs I play (other than CoX - no gear), that doesn't do it for me. Worst thing is, if you wanted to make another Minstrel, you'd be doing the exact same quests in the same order, and grinding the same traits all over, whats the point?

    Granted, given Turbine's record of content addition, this may improve in time, but the game is stagnant right now, no originality, no RPG (charactor building-wise).

    A game holds my interest with making choices, they are extremely limited in this game.

    Also, why is it you guys need to constantly bash other games that weren't even mentioned to prop your case? For disclosure's sake, yes, IMO EQ2 blows this McDonalds MMO outta the water.

  • DeadEndDeadEnd Member Posts: 98

    I don't think it's the best MMO out there. I'm not sure which one is the best, but there are sure some real good ones out there, and LotRO is one of them. Just don't think it really is the best. Allthough Turbine is doing a hell of a good job with making an LOTR MMO. Way to go Turbine!

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  • Terminus-EstTerminus-Est Member UncommonPosts: 352

    Originally posted by Die_Scream


     I like my rewards, main rewards, when I ding, not mind-numbing grinding of traits for hours on end to differentiate my avatar. When you go to a trainer upon lvling, you should be making choices, you should have to consider, what do I want to specialize in? Instead its ho-hum. "Well, lets see what i'm allowed to take, oh, I unlocked 2 skills" You buy them, not fun.

    I have never had to grind my traits. They come naturally as you play the game. And there are so many of them that I have plenty of choices of how my minstrel plays. Even the choice of medium or light armour is a trait, so sometimes I may play in light (eg. in a good group with a good tank) and sometimes in medium (eg. soloing).

    Ironically enough, it was EQ2 I left to play LOTRO. And one of the reasons I left EQ2 was that I thought there wasn't enough character differentiation. In my opinion, LOTRO is a far superior game than EQ2.

     

  • MrTumN3sMrTumN3s Member Posts: 439

     I love this game. I dont play it though, i play WoW

     

    I played Beta and the trial, but i have scouted through like 30 % of the content. I love this game. Its casual, laid back, and unique in many aspects.

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  • jatrix32jatrix32 Member Posts: 7

    WOW is McDonalds...greatest line of all time.

    I spent 2 years on WOW...doing the same thing over and over and over and over...that is where my disgust with WOW comes in. And after reading replies to my earlier thread...I say again. if you can't figure out how to change the paly of your toon via traits aquired from deeds...then I can't help you. Just go to a WOW forum, and copy the shadow step rogue spec so you can have the same skill point set up as every other rogue in the game.

    LOTR = mature community, casual community

    WOW = daycare, hardcore grind freaks (GET ATTUNED OR YOU ARE OUT OF OUR GUILD!!!!)

    EQII = not sure, never played it

    Every other MMO out there right now = either old and outdated or sucks

    I am the One

  • oakthornnoakthornn Member UncommonPosts: 863

    This game does NOT appeal to true hardcore MMO vets like myself. Its to much candyland EZ mode for my taste.

    To the OP.  Turbine should have had book 9 and 10 in at launch. Even with 9 and 10, LOTRO still has much less content than what WoW, Vanguard, EQ, EQ2, DAOC, etc had when it first went live. If you people cant see this, then obviously you are NOT true hardcore MMO gamers. Most of you like the OP probably NEVER reached max level in any other MMO. If you did, then you wouldn't be here bragging about how great Turbine is for adding so much content on a regular basis. You'll be in the same crowd as the upset dissapointed true hardcore powergamers that sliced through this game like warm butter running through a hot knife.

    This game is only meant to make  the casual put put candyland Nub gamer happy. Basically the nubs who couldn't cut it in real MMO's that takes hours and hours to achieve your goals.

    So please stop posting threads like these praising Turbine for adding content that should have been in game at launch!!!! It really shows just how noobish you ppl are.

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  • ASmith84ASmith84 Member Posts: 979

    voting on this site is a joke. always remember that.

  • Terminus-EstTerminus-Est Member UncommonPosts: 352

    Originally posted by oakthornn


    This game does NOT appeal to true hardcore MMO vets like myself. Its to much candyland EZ mode for my taste.

    So how hight did you get in LOTRO? Level 10?

  • seabass2003seabass2003 Member Posts: 4,144
    Originally posted by Terminus-Est


     
    Originally posted by oakthornn


    This game does NOT appeal to true hardcore MMO vets like myself. Its to much candyland EZ mode for my taste.

     

    So how hight did you get in LOTRO? Level 10?



    No this POWERGAMER made it to 13 in 6 hours. HAHA!

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  • RodzillaRodzilla Member UncommonPosts: 159

     it has nice world grafics and thats about it. 

    searching for the next DAoC....

    Kay-exile

  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321

    Originally posted by Rodzilla


     it has nice world grafics and thats about it. 
    don't forget the free content updates every 2 months,  good gameplay, and great community

    I miss DAoC

  • Eol-Eol- Member UncommonPosts: 274
    Originally posted by Jackdog


     
    Originally posted by Rodzilla


     it has nice world grafics and thats about it. 
    don't forget the free content updates every 2 months,  good gameplay, and great community

     

    and the quest-driven story-line that makes you feel part of the world. And the good setting for roleplaying. And the fact that it had a successful release, is stable and bug-free, and is accessible to most players/computers. Not many games can say that.

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  • RodzillaRodzilla Member UncommonPosts: 159

     Its a decent game, just not what im looking for in an mmo.

    searching for the next DAoC....

    Kay-exile

  • Die_ScreamDie_Scream Member Posts: 1,785

    Originally posted by Eol-

    Originally posted by Jackdog


     
    Originally posted by Rodzilla


     it has nice world grafics and thats about it. 
    don't forget the free content updates every 2 months,  good gameplay, and great community

     

    and the quest-driven story-line that makes you feel part of the world. And the good setting for roleplaying. And the fact that it had a successful release, is stable and bug-free, and is accessible to most players/computers. Not many games can say that.

    I agree, except the quest-driven part never immersed me much, then again, thats not really what I look for anyway. Deep gameplay is what I like in an MMO, or RPG, which LOTRO lacks IMO.

    I just wish to god we could see a deep MMO get released that boasted all those positives (see: VG). It seems that developers have really gotten the hang of releasing a polished, stable and graphically beautiful game, as long as its a "me too" formula gameplay.

    Lets see a game with complexity get released in the fine shape LOTRO was at release!

  • skatanericskataneric Member Posts: 4

    This game isn't really geared toward the hardcore 24/7 mmo player. That is why you see so many bashing this game. They are the vocal majority but not the playing majority.

    If your a casual player that just likes to play along with the story and level up every now and then its great.

    Think of it more like a FF game as it is geared around the epic storyline and everything else is just character advancement.

     Just like a FF game, if you sit down and 24/7 play it you are going to hit the end fast and be done with it.

    It has what just about every other MMORPG has -

    Solo/Group Quests, PvP (in the form of PvMP as not to deter the main PvE focus of the game), crafting, Kinships (guilds), Raids, etc...

    I think the fact that the main focus of the game isn't PvP or raiding is what pisses off the hardcore players.

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