skataneric - maybe I misinterpreted what you were trying to say here:
"Just like a FF game, if you sit down and 24/7 play it you are going to hit the end fast and be done with it.
I assumed you were talking about FF - you know the MMO. However you say instead that:
"Where did i ever make the comparison to leveling speed with FF? I said in terms of a storyline you follow. And in ANY FF game you can complete it within 50-70 hours of play. Now you can choose to do it all in one huge sitting or 2 or 3 or spread it out for game longevity."
WHy oh why are you comparing the storyline of a console game with a MMO? Console games CANT have story quest updates like MMO's constantly can and LOTRO has had (esp. in terms of the size of their updates) lol, really one 'huge' sitting? FOR an MMO? tell me what is the purpose of an MMO? is it supposed to last only 60 or 70 hours? or one sitting? How long do you think a MMO should last for a player who is really interested in it? a day? a month? 6 months? Personally I feel MMO's SHOULD last years (or at the very least a year...)
"Now lets look at endgame content in NEARLY EVERY MMORPG -
Craft, PvP, Re-Roll, Raid, Help Others, Collect(housing,money,items)
Can you do the same things in this game? Sure can! Please tell me one that is different. I'd love to play that game."
Uhhh - you mean every "New EZ - mode" MMORPG's that have come since EQ and UO.
"the gameplay being PvE based it isn't geared towards hardcore players unless you are fine with normal MMORPG endgame content."
Btw being 'hard-core' has NOTHING to do with PVP lol. atleast in general anyway - the hardcore pride themsevles in being the BEST in any aspect of an MMO - like being able to take down the hardest bosses when no one else can or having the harder/best equipement in the game. Getting to a place first or reaching the highest level etc...Of course if one were on a PvP server or cared for PvP then they would want to be known as a 'hard-core' pvp player or one that is the best or one of the best in player vs player combat.
"You know, I gotta be honest..I'm sick of this excuse. Maybe its because all MMOs released lately are the "me too" tried and true fomula so I'm sick to death of rails, and being lead by the hand.
Does every new game that comes out have to be the "you play too much" excuse?"
wow - I couldn't agree more die scream. What happened to just starting out in a city with nothing more then a rusty sword (with no map) and a few days worth of food and water basically saying "That's all you get noob - go explore and get better weapons and learn the land your self!) These 'holding hands' MMO's are just so bad. I don't know why people play WoW - I got bored within the first 5 minutes. Where the hell is the danger in LOTRO and WoW? Even EQ II failed horribly (only b/c they were trying to make it out to be EQ1's successor which by all means it was not lol) WoW you die - You are like...'oh dang I messed up - oh well no exp DP so its all good (Even in a guild raid you could do a lerroy Jenkins kind of move and kill the entire raid but in the end the guild only lost like 5 minutes and thats it). Then as you repop...your a spirit and run back to your corpse without any worries. I want to be freaking upset if someone decided to be a FOOL and do a stuipd move like that - you know why? b/c that person should get either kicked out of the guild or the raid or hell atleast gets a really big ass chewing by all of his peers. I mean seriously - I don't know how exicting a raid could be in LOTRO if you could just form a PUG with people you have no idea of their abiltiies and be able to clear the hardest zone in the game without any problem. Its like WOW we did it! but...that wasn't that hard.....geez umm weren't we supposed to scared at some point?...wasn't this supposed to be the HARDEST zone in the game?! why would a guild WANT to clear it again? lol - I dunno, if you done in the first time without problem (and you have no other raid to do) that makes for a terrible MMO endgame lol.
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You don't know how to spell WOW, and the endless repetion of "warcrap" does not make you cool.
skataneric - maybe I misinterpreted what you were trying to say here:
"Just like a FF game, if you sit down and 24/7 play it you are going to hit the end fast and be done with it.
I assumed you were talking about FF - you know the MMO. However you say instead that:
"Where did i ever make the comparison to leveling speed with FF? I said in terms of a storyline you follow. And in ANY FF game you can complete it within 50-70 hours of play. Now you can choose to do it all in one huge sitting or 2 or 3 or spread it out for game longevity."
WHy oh why are you comparing the storyline of a console game with a MMO? Console games CANT have story quest updates like MMO's constantly can and LOTRO has had (esp. in terms of the size of their updates) lol, really one 'huge' sitting? FOR an MMO? tell me what is the purpose of an MMO? is it supposed to last only 60 or 70 hours? or one sitting? How long do you think a MMO should last for a player who is really interested in it? a day? a month? 6 months? Personally I feel MMO's SHOULD last years (or at the very least a year...)
"Now lets look at endgame content in NEARLY EVERY MMORPG -
Craft, PvP, Re-Roll, Raid, Help Others, Collect(housing,money,items)
Can you do the same things in this game? Sure can! Please tell me one that is different. I'd love to play that game."
Uhhh - you mean every "New EZ - mode" MMORPG's that have come since EQ and UO.
"the gameplay being PvE based it isn't geared towards hardcore players unless you are fine with normal MMORPG endgame content."
Btw being 'hard-core' has NOTHING to do with PVP lol. atleast in general anyway - the hardcore pride themsevles in being the BEST in any aspect of an MMO - like being able to take down the hardest bosses when no one else can or having the harder/best equipement in the game. Getting to a place first or reaching the highest level etc...Of course if one were on a PvP server or cared for PvP then they would want to be known as a 'hard-core' pvp player or one that is the best or one of the best in player vs player combat.
"You know, I gotta be honest..I'm sick of this excuse. Maybe its because all MMOs released lately are the "me too" tried and true fomula so I'm sick to death of rails, and being lead by the hand.
Does every new game that comes out have to be the "you play too much" excuse?"
wow - I couldn't agree more die scream. What happened to just starting out in a city with nothing more then a rusty sword (with no map) and a few days worth of food and water basically saying "That's all you get noob - go explore and get better weapons and learn the land your self!) These 'holding hands' MMO's are just so bad. I don't know why people play WoW - I got bored within the first 5 minutes. Where the hell is the danger in LOTRO and WoW? Even EQ II failed horribly (only b/c they were trying to make it out to be EQ1's successor which by all means it was not lol) WoW you die - You are like...'oh dang I messed up - oh well no exp DP so its all good (Even in a guild raid you could do a lerroy Jenkins kind of move and kill the entire raid but in the end the guild only lost like 5 minutes and thats it). Then as you repop...your a spirit and run back to your corpse without any worries. I want to be freaking upset if someone decided to be a FOOL and do a stuipd move like that - you know why? b/c that person should get either kicked out of the guild or the raid or hell atleast gets a really big ass chewing by all of his peers. I mean seriously - I don't know how exicting a raid could be in LOTRO if you could just form a PUG with people you have no idea of their abiltiies and be able to clear the hardest zone in the game without any problem. Its like WOW we did it! but...that wasn't that hard.....geez umm weren't we supposed to scared at some point?...wasn't this supposed to be the HARDEST zone in the game?! why would a guild WANT to clear it again? lol - I dunno, if you done in the first time without problem (and you have no other raid to do) that makes for a terrible MMO endgame lol.