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Tabula Rasa Graphics

swiftflowswiftflow Member Posts: 239

  I just looked at the new screen shots and after 5+ years of development that's the best graphics they can come up with? The atmosphere and characters looks bland, cartoonish and uninspiring. 

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  • KasimirKasimir Member Posts: 197

    Ok, if you say so then it must be true. Walk away, then.. just walk away.

    Edit. Actually, I just read thorugh your post history, about 100 posts back. What I found so far, you bash and complain, whine and abuse any and all players of:

    Vanguard

    Star Wars Galaxies

    Auto Assault

    Tabula Rasa

    Planetside

    General Discussion, random games

    SOE, all of it

    Dungeons and Dragons Online

    Everquest II

    A constant post after post flame and troll fest, not a SINGLE normal or semiconstructive post in sight, where you actually think or have an opinion, just a barrage of monkey poop tossing left and right against everyone and everything. So yeah...

    Your opinion really matters.. Really. Like all trolls and flamers, what you think is really important. You know when people talk about the stupidity and idiocy of the WoW community, how they are the worst in the world, the most stupid and arrogant, insulting and abusive, clueless twats in history?

    They are talking about you.

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  • BadSpockBadSpock Member UncommonPosts: 7,979

    i'm sure it looks great in motion while playing.....

    *cough*

     

    gotta love fileplanet accounts...

  • MirokuneMirokune Member UncommonPosts: 8

    Okay then... Don't play it? Lol. If gameplay makes up for it I don't care, the graphics are tolerable they look decent in my opinion.

  • BadSpockBadSpock Member UncommonPosts: 7,979

    they look fine in action, and gameplay is.. fun yet too early to really tell

    a little bird told me so... i swear

     

  • ThefonzThefonz Member Posts: 280

    Don't bother defend against idiots like swiftflow. They're too busy thinking of new venom to hit any new MMO (or any in general) with and turn it's fans into a hungry pack of rabid piranhas. Best thing to do is to just pity them for needing attention on one of the most hate filled forums this side of the internets has.

  • GylfiGylfi Member UncommonPosts: 708

    I think graphics have a curious feel to them, They remind me of Crusader: No remorse type of vintage 3d...who cares about graphical affectation, and edge technology, when there's fascination ? Also the light reflexes on objects and people are remarkable, they belong to Doom3, clearly.

  • ChaulsinNLChaulsinNL Member UncommonPosts: 182

    Originally posted by Kasimir

    A constant post after post flame and troll fest, not a SINGLE normal or semiconstructive post in sight, where you actually think or have an opinion, just a barrage of monkey poop tossing left and right against everyone and everything. So yeah..


    Thanks for making my morning .

     

    OT: I think most graphics look great. Lot's of different feels to the scenery, guns that look like they pack a punch and most armor has a good look to it too.

  • Die_ScreamDie_Scream Member Posts: 1,785

    Originally posted by Kasimir


    Ok, if you say so then it must be true. Walk away, then.. just walk away.
    Edit. Actually, I just read thorugh your post history, about 100 posts back. What I found so far, you bash and complain, whine and abuse any and all players of:
    Vanguard
    Star Wars Galaxies
    Auto Assault
    Tabula Rasa
    Planetside
    General Discussion, random games
    SOE, all of it
    Dungeons and Dragons Online
    Everquest II
    A constant post after post flame and troll fest, not a SINGLE normal or semiconstructive post in sight, where you actually think or have an opinion, just a barrage of monkey poop tossing left and right against everyone and everything. So yeah...
    Your opinion really matters.. Really. Like all trolls and flamers, what you think is really important. You know when people talk about the stupidity and idiocy of the WoW community, how they are the worst in the world, the most stupid and arrogant, insulting and abusive, clueless twats in history?
    They are talking about you.
    Hahaha! Wow, talk about a burn!

    Kasamir, remind me not to get on your bad side!

  • mindphasermindphaser Member Posts: 6

    Originally posted by swiftflow


      I just looked at the new screen shots and after 5+ years of development that's the best graphics they can come up with? The atmosphere and characters looks bland, cartoonish and uninspiring. 
    QQ

    I said this once... Leet Graphics=more bandwidth usage=more lag. Also with leet graphics you need a decent gaming system that most gamers don't have the money for. So why make a mmorpg that a lot of people can't play without spending lots of money?

    This also has been said before, When i look at your 'post history' it's all flames on other games. If you don't like a game, then don't play it... NO need to flame it and be a jerk to others.

  • AlchemdaAlchemda Member Posts: 179

    Well, I think they look great in motion. They are not Vanguard Graphics in my opinion, but the world is realized in its own style and it suits the game and game play just fine for me. They are not uber l337 Unreal 3 graphics that are out of this world, and thats fine for me, because I want a graphically beautiful game (which TR is) that I don't have to stutter through with low fps.

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    Played (In order of favorite first to least): DAOC, EQ2, EVE, WOW, Vanguard, AC2, City of __, Guild Wars, LOTRO, EQ, Sword of New World, FFXI, Lineage 2, Second Life, DDO, Anarchy Online, RF Online, Archlord, Uru, Ragnarok Online, Shadowbane, Planetside, Auto Assault, Ryzom, Matrix Online, Horizons, Entropia, Sims, Runescape, Lineage 1, AC1, Dungeon Runners

  • QarkQark Member Posts: 234

    Anyway...who care about graphics...i wana good story and good gameplay...good comunity and that kind of stuff...i think that could be major problem with many players...mmorpg games are about story...about gameplay and about comunity...if someone is looking for good graphics then he shouldnt play mmorpg (if thats only thing in his mind)...well if nothing else..less details less lag ;)

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  • GormandYGormandY Member Posts: 411

    graphics are okay, nothing too hot... nothing too bad either

  • TheTrollTheTroll Member Posts: 26

    Graphics are ... like it must be.. Wanna good Graphics? Go play (wait for) Crysis, Far Cry 2... and so on.. No need for "amazing" Graphics in MMO. Only gameplay and strory, witch this game already has.. 

  • CelestianCelestian Member UncommonPosts: 1,136


    Originally posted by mindphaser
    QQ
    I said this once... Leet Graphics=more bandwidth usage=more lag.

    Wow, you don't know jack about online computer games do ya. Graphics have absolutely nothing to do with bandwidth usage.

    The graphics do seem a little dated but then again so does WoW and tons of people still play it. I suspect because most of the world doesn't have upgraded pcs.

  • Redon1973Redon1973 Member Posts: 33

    Originally posted by Kasimir


    Ok, if you say so then it must be true. Walk away, then.. just walk away.
    Edit. Actually, I just read thorugh your post history, about 100 posts back. What I found so far, you bash and complain, whine and abuse any and all players of:
    Vanguard
    Star Wars Galaxies
    Auto Assault
    Tabula Rasa
    Planetside
    General Discussion, random games
    SOE, all of it
    Dungeons and Dragons Online
    Everquest II
    A constant post after post flame and troll fest, not a SINGLE normal or semiconstructive post in sight, where you actually think or have an opinion, just a barrage of monkey poop tossing left and right against everyone and everything. So yeah...
    Your opinion really matters.. Really. Like all trolls and flamers, what you think is really important. You know when people talk about the stupidity and idiocy of the WoW community, how they are the worst in the world, the most stupid and arrogant, insulting and abusive, clueless twats in history?
    They are talking about you.

    Heheheheeheh, Pwned! There is no comeback to this. Thanks for an awesome post Kasimir  :)

  • JasPlunJasPlun Member Posts: 155

    Well I think the game looks fantastic and I bet by the type of graphics they are using the games going to run smooth as well,which in turn means gamers will have a fun and enjoyable experience with this game. I hope this game does well will be nice to see a new fps mmo out there.

  • AlchemdaAlchemda Member Posts: 179

     

    Originally posted by Celestian


     

    Originally posted by mindphaser

    QQ

    I said this once... Leet Graphics=more bandwidth usage=more lag.

     

    Wow, you don't know jack about online computer games do ya. Graphics have absolutely nothing to do with bandwidth usage.

    The graphics do seem a little dated but then again so does WoW and tons of people still play it. I suspect because most of the world doesn't have upgraded pcs.

     

     

    I disagree, absolutly nothing is exaggerating. They do play a role indeed, not to the degree that most would think.

     

     

    FPS: Frames Per second.

    The number of frames of animation which are displayed every second, are called the frame rate. The frame rate is measured in frames per second or fps. The higher the frame rate, the smoother the animation, but the more processing power and system bandwidth is required.

    At less than 30 fps, the human eye can single out new images being drawn on the screen. At greater than 72 fps, it is perceived the same as natural vision.

    Lag: Latency

    Latency is one of the most fundamental issues with communication between devices. It is the transmission delay between sending and receiving of information. The higher the latency, the longer it takes to receive feedback.




    Participants in modern internet-controlled, heavily graphics-orientated virtual worlds often confuse fps and lag. When an area cluttered with graphics, and a complex drawing area slows down, all too often people say that the area is laggy, or their Internet connection is not sufficient to handle it. This is patiently untrue, and continued perpetuation of this idea leads people to invest in hardware they don't need, which has no effect on the problem.

    A slowdown or sluggishness is to be expected. Data has a long way to travel, in large quantities, so some penalty must be paid. However, is all unresponsiveness in virtual environments really caused by lag?

    The majority of lag in social VR worlds occurs via the Internet connection. The Internet architecture was never really designed for real-time interaction, and packets frequently cross thousands or tens of thousands of miles to reach a central server, and come back again - transmission time is always a function of double the distance to server.

    It takes time to collect all the data necessary to construct a visual area from the main server - object placement, script commands, sometimes actual object and texture data itself. However, once this is downloaded, it is downloaded. That is to say, once it is on the local computer, it is not going to use the Internet connection again. The job of that equipment is done, and no matter how choppy the experience may be, its no longer anything to do with transmission times.

    The task now falls to the graphics hardware. In particular, the graphics accelerator card, if present. If a dedicated graphics card is not present, that's the source of the 'lag' right there. Modern graphical virtual worlds demand dedicated graphical processing power. The graphics hardware has to analyse the data stored in the computer's memory, work out where in the scene each item is - what is occluded behind nearer objects and so does not need to be drawn, what is only partially occluded, and what is fully visible. In more advanced environments, it has to work out shadows, lighting, reflections, organic deforming surfaces, fog levels, or large numbers of complex avatars.

    It has to do all this, anywhere from 30 to 80 times each second.

    So, the next time you are in a high-density area, cluttered with complex graphics, and things start to slow down. Don't whine and bemoan your Internet connection. It has done its job, consider a better graphics card instead.

    Lag and fps. There is a profound difference.

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    Played (In order of favorite first to least): DAOC, EQ2, EVE, WOW, Vanguard, AC2, City of __, Guild Wars, LOTRO, EQ, Sword of New World, FFXI, Lineage 2, Second Life, DDO, Anarchy Online, RF Online, Archlord, Uru, Ragnarok Online, Shadowbane, Planetside, Auto Assault, Ryzom, Matrix Online, Horizons, Entropia, Sims, Runescape, Lineage 1, AC1, Dungeon Runners

  • jmpreissjmpreiss Member Posts: 49

    Originally posted by Celestian


     

    Originally posted by mindphaser

    QQ

    I said this once... Leet Graphics=more bandwidth usage=more lag.

     

    Wow, you don't know jack about online computer games do ya. Graphics have absolutely nothing to do with bandwidth usage.

    The graphics do seem a little dated but then again so does WoW and tons of people still play it. I suspect because most of the world doesn't have upgraded pcs.

     

     

    Well, one thing for sure is that graphics intensive games do have a lot more potential to lag. It might not be lag due to your connection, but even if it is lag created by your computer having to chug and render stuff, it is still lag. The end result is the same.

  • AlchemdaAlchemda Member Posts: 179

    Originally posted by jmpreiss


     
    Originally posted by Celestian


     

    Originally posted by mindphaser

    QQ

    I said this once... Leet Graphics=more bandwidth usage=more lag.

     

    Wow, you don't know jack about online computer games do ya. Graphics have absolutely nothing to do with bandwidth usage.

    The graphics do seem a little dated but then again so does WoW and tons of people still play it. I suspect because most of the world doesn't have upgraded pcs.

     

     

     

    Well, one thing for sure is that graphics intensive games do have a lot more potential to lag. It might not be lag due to your connection, but even if it is lag created by your computer having to chug and render stuff, it is still lag. The end result is the same.

    Lag is a general term used for slowness. In computing and especially computer networks, a lag is a symptom where result of an action appears later than expected. While different kinds of latency are well defined technical terms, lag is the symptom, not the cause.

    People misnomer general lag as Network Lag (Latency) when they are referring to graphical lag, as reported above "result of an action appears later than expected"

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    Played (In order of favorite first to least): DAOC, EQ2, EVE, WOW, Vanguard, AC2, City of __, Guild Wars, LOTRO, EQ, Sword of New World, FFXI, Lineage 2, Second Life, DDO, Anarchy Online, RF Online, Archlord, Uru, Ragnarok Online, Shadowbane, Planetside, Auto Assault, Ryzom, Matrix Online, Horizons, Entropia, Sims, Runescape, Lineage 1, AC1, Dungeon Runners

  • CelestianCelestian Member UncommonPosts: 1,136


    Originally posted by jmpreiss
    Originally posted by Celestian

    Originally posted by mindphaser
    QQ
    I said this once... Leet Graphics=more bandwidth usage=more lag.

    Wow, you don't know jack about online computer games do ya. Graphics have absolutely nothing to do with bandwidth usage.
    The graphics do seem a little dated but then again so does WoW and tons of people still play it. I suspect because most of the world doesn't have upgraded pcs.




    Well, one thing for sure is that graphics intensive games do have a lot more potential to lag. It might not be lag due to your connection, but even if it is lag created by your computer having to chug and render stuff, it is still lag. The end result is the same.


    I never said anything about lag, he said "bandwidth usage". Graphics engines have nothing to do with that at all.

    Lag... well thats another matter entirely. Video slag, network slag... all entirely different monsters.

    But bandwidth and video are not related at all unless you are referring to the bandwidth of your pci slots and what not which has nothing to do with the game at all.

  • Die_ScreamDie_Scream Member Posts: 1,785

    There is nothing wrong with TR graphics. They look fine, not LOTRO beautiful, but still, I didn't even think about it once in-game.

    TBH, TR is looking fantastic, Im very optimistic for its future.Its fun.

  • Die_ScreamDie_Scream Member Posts: 1,785
    Originally posted by Redon1973


     
    Originally posted by Kasimir


    Ok, if you say so then it must be true. Walk away, then.. just walk away.
    Edit. Actually, I just read thorugh your post history, about 100 posts back. What I found so far, you bash and complain, whine and abuse any and all players of:
    Vanguard
    Star Wars Galaxies
    Auto Assault
    Tabula Rasa
    Planetside
    General Discussion, random games
    SOE, all of it
    Dungeons and Dragons Online
    Everquest II
    A constant post after post flame and troll fest, not a SINGLE normal or semiconstructive post in sight, where you actually think or have an opinion, just a barrage of monkey poop tossing left and right against everyone and everything. So yeah...
    Your opinion really matters.. Really. Like all trolls and flamers, what you think is really important. You know when people talk about the stupidity and idiocy of the WoW community, how they are the worst in the world, the most stupid and arrogant, insulting and abusive, clueless twats in history?
    They are talking about you.

     

    Heheheheeheh, Pwned! There is no comeback to this. Thanks for an awesome post Kasimir  :)

    I'm sorry to necro, but I have to say again, best burn of the year.

  • FluteFlute Member UncommonPosts: 455

    Have to say it, the graphics have never been what interested me in Tabula Rasa.  There are a lot of beautiful games out there, however the most beautiful tend not to be MMORPGs, because the more the world and players in it can change the more of a problem they have with latency.  They are getting far better, but currently there does still seem to be an inherent trade-off.   Besides, top end graphics tend to cut the market down, they want a lot of players to try and many to stay, not to start out with "It looks great but I can't run it".

  • JaeSwiftJaeSwift Member Posts: 201

    Originally posted by Die_Scream


    There is nothing wrong with TR graphics. They look fine, not LOTRO beautiful, but still, I didn't even think about it once in-game.
    TBH, TR is looking fantastic, Im very optimistic for its future.Its fun.

    The graphics are as good if not better than LOTRO, the screenshots shown just really don't do the game justice.

  • elockeelocke Member UncommonPosts: 4,335

    Isn't the game still in beta? Have we even SEEN the final approved graphic quality of this game yet? I don't think we have. Lets not jump to conclusions till the game is out please?

    I remember LOTR not having the high rez graphics until release, which is why I mention anything at all.

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