I don't know. Blizzard has always been anal about their forums and he probably just met up with the wrong mod at the wrong time in his life :P To say omg you must have done something wrong is retarded also, as if Blizzard was a shining example of evenhandedness and this couldn't have possibly happened. Banning him is totally retarded also, just delete the thread , send a warning. You people are so predictable. Everyone thinks things like this can't happen, till you get banned yourself or someone you know, then you weil be the one coming on here with your stories lol. It is kinda like in real life, noone believes the government abuses the Patriot Act till they come to your house and turn it upside down without any warrants :P Extreme example I know
Well at least some of you are open-minded anyway. Thanks for your words Airspell.
I came here simply to warn you guys. It can happen. It does happen and it might happen to you. You can be banned by a forum moderator for any reason or no reason at all. It happened to me. I was one of the people who thought it couldn't happen so long as I didn’t use vulgarity or profanity. I thought as long as I was articulate and well-reasoned I would be entitled to post my opinion. I was wrong.
I'm not sure why I thought most of you would be supportive. At least a couple of you were. As for those of you who called me obscene names… I see your posts have been removed. See? It can happen to you too.
Well I could see how it's possible for this to happen. Blizzard has the attitude that they are king of all MMO's and they are duel wielding ban hammers. Cause it doesn't matter if they ban a few people every now and then with 8 million subs.
hahah, brilliant, fanboism wins again, have fun in la la land where Blizzard praises any credit you give to it's crappy game and customer service, I wouldn't bother yourself over it OP, the games been in decline for years now, it was great the first year it came out but the patches gradually wore it down, also ignore the fanboi comments, every time there's an unfair banning reported they say this and for some reason I've noticed it's the exact same people, either ignore it and carry on playing the game ( if your just banned from the forums that is ) or move on to something that you think is actually fun.
There are arseholes in Blizzard and sadly it seems they have gotten the higher up positions, deny it, whatever, I've seen stuff happening all over that game and I will never be a part of it again.
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
hahah, brilliant, fanboism wins again, have fun in la la land where Blizzard praises any credit you give to it's crappy game and customer service, I wouldn't bother yourself over it OP, the games been in decline for years now, it was great the first year it came out but the patches gradually wore it down, also ignore the fanboi comments, every time there's an unfair banning reported they say this and for some reason I've noticed it's the exact same people, either ignore it and carry on playing the game ( if your just banned from the forums that is ) or move on to something that you think is actually fun. There are arseholes in Blizzard and sadly it seems they have gotten the higher up positions, deny it, whatever, I've seen stuff happening all over that game and I will never be a part of it again.
yes, how DARE people assume that Blizzard mods stick to their own policy and suspect that the OP Is not telling the whole story. No, it must be fanboism.
So on a recent topic about the new Death Knight I expressed some concern about the way this new ability would be unlocked.... In sum, I stated that "I'd be more excited for this new content if I thought I'd ever actually see it. If prior experience serves, the unlocking quest will most likely be in some form of high-level dungeon that a casual player like me could not possibly participate in." For this comment I received a permanent ban from the Blizzard forums with no prior conduct violations and no warning. I have contacted Blizzard and there is no hope of ever being able to post on my account again. They will not undo the ban. So be careful about what you say on the Blizz forums about their new baby. You don't even have to be vulgar or inflammatory to be banned. Just being a casual player expressing concern about future content seems to be reason enough to ban you permanently. Even if you are rather intelligent and articulate about how you say it. I think I just became an unperson…
First, you're completely wrong in your assumption of how the Death Knight is unlocked. Secondly you're not telling us everything, you probably said some very nasty things to/about Blizzard or they wouldn't have banned you. There are threads everyday about people complaining or just stating there opinion on Wotlk and they don't get banned.
I kind of have to agree with Citrus, I think you may have said some nasty things, I have simply seen far worse nasty things being posted and the admins never take them down.
If unlocking a DK requires you to raid, well it makes sense, its a hero class and they don't want tons of them running around, its somewhat like unlocking a Jedi in SWG im assuming, it won't be easy.
that is exactly the type of post i'd expect from a wow player.
wow. just incredibly wow.
so the less than 1% of the population that raids should get the hero class? grats. gg. gj. gfy.
First off its a lot more than 1% who raid, the majority of people raid, second off you don't have to raid to unlock the DK class but its a chain quest that you can do, third off this is the exact quote you would see from 1. A wow hater and 2. Someone who didn't do their research.
Just because I play WoW I don't defend it stupidly, there are things that I like and things that I don't like, but categorizing me and labeling me as a WoW player and therefore my post is biased is just . Just because I'm having a hard time believing what the OP is saying doesn't make me a fanboi or whatever you wan't to call me, all we know is what he's telling us, do you actually believe everything that you read in these forums ,or any forums? Having doubts is normal, believing everything that you read is foolish.
And OP if you brought a screenshot of what you typed that got you banned there would be alot more meat to this thread, all we know so far is words, and your side of the story, like we all say SS or it didn't happen. I am not picking sides here, if what you say is absolutely true it is unfair and it sucks but by not providing any facts all you are doing is getting the WoW haters on your side, the WoW fanbois against you and the neutrals wondering where the evidence is.
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You can download and install a simple program that hides your I.P. address. Start a new account and away you go. Never have to worry about being perma-banned on any website forums again.
I can't say I was ever banned on the forums for anything, but I have been banned in game for no reason at all. I had to go through incredible lengths, including several emails and faxes, just to get my account back! They refused to specifically state what I had done wrong, how convenient! If you don't know what they're accusing you of, how can you make an argument? I did my best to cause them grief, sadly I wasn't even compensated for their stupidity and after getting my account back I quit the game soon afterwards.
Blizzard is a large entity and it is in their best interest to stifle people that may give them a bad image. Of course there will be people loyal to the company who refuse to believe such things, it is a dangerous thing and occurs too often-- especially in governments. As a consumer or a citizen we should have the right to raise question about any such actions we feel peculiar without being reprimanded.
Some will make the argument they are simply upholding policy. Believe that if you wish, but through personal experiences I choose to believe a different view. They may single any person out at any time and ban you under any broad non-descriptive policy they wish, even if it doesn't apply to your situation. Back to my in-game banning-- I was accused of something, I pressed and pressed them for details at which point they couldn't produce anything specific so they came up with a completely different reason that could have applied to anyone.
Anyway, I feel for you. You should probably leave the game, but that is up to you.
So on a recent topic about the new Death Knight I expressed some concern about the way this new ability would be unlocked.... In sum, I stated that "I'd be more excited for this new content if I thought I'd ever actually see it. If prior experience serves, the unlocking quest will most likely be in some form of high-level dungeon that a casual player like me could not possibly participate in." For this comment I received a permanent ban from the Blizzard forums with no prior conduct violations and no warning. I have contacted Blizzard and there is no hope of ever being able to post on my account again. They will not undo the ban. So be careful about what you say on the Blizz forums about their new baby. You don't even have to be vulgar or inflammatory to be banned. Just being a casual player expressing concern about future content seems to be reason enough to ban you permanently. Even if you are rather intelligent and articulate about how you say it. I think I just became an unperson…
Again, I could care less about what fanbois think of me, you can just dismiss my comments because of my age all you want, but don't bother trying to argue with me if that's the case, shit like this happens, SOE do it so why is it so unbelievable that a company of equal size like Blizzard doesn't engage in that kind of practice every now and then as well? If your trying to call me a 'hater' as if it were some kind of insult, I actually consider it a compliment to be thought of as a hater to this game, it's better than being called a fanboi because they don't take into account anything that's said to them and practically worship the game they're a fanboi of. I was unfairly banned from this very site for saying that in my opinion I considered world of warcraft to be a load of garbage, you know what? I talked to another member of staff and they actually agreed with me that it wasn't a fair ban, I think you should stick your skepticism some place where it's appreciated like in the official world of warcraft forum.
Idiots who exclude people because of their age are more childish than the people they're trying to exclude, if you want to act arrogant and claim that your better than others because of how old or young you are then fine, but it'll just make your opinion all the more worthless in the end, at least I have the guts to show my age to everyone which makes you look all the more stupid for making those kind of comments.
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
I believe the OP is telling the truth. And it's a shame that Blizzard bans people for constructive criticism, or other things like that. Who here has seen the forums for that game? There are more trolls, whom would rather spend all day talking down to people, than there are actual normal people that can hold an interesting conversation.
I visit the forums and this is what I see:
"QQ more nub." "GTFO of my forums." "L2Play" (or any varient)
Most topics are along the lines of @randomperson posts, which are usually in an attempt to flame somebody. Then you have the posts where people claim that they are the best player in the game, or they'll demand the rest of the trolls come up with a list of the best players, so they can compare and do Armory checks to make sure that the armor any said person is wearing isn't as good as their 900 hour+ farmed epics that apparently everyone should be grinding for 24/7 or they're not worth the aforementioned persons' time.
This behavior sickens me, but the majority of people on the forums and in the game act this way, whether they're 13 years old or 45 years old, age doesn't matter. If a company builds a "society" and bases that society on competition and gives people a reason to act like elitists, they will do it. I have played other games where there is a competitive endgame, but most of those games have made endgame content attainable by all, casual and hardcore players. And guess what you don't see in those games? People trashing each other constantly.
To get to the point, I think it is horribly wrong for Blizzard to ban someone like the OP, or anyone who doesn't act like the people I've described above. But why would Blizzard change their ways and ban a majority of their playerbase?
I believe the OP is telling the truth. And it's a shame that Blizzard bans people for constructive criticism, or other things like that. Who here has seen the forums for that game? There are more trolls, whom would rather spend all day talking down to people, than there are actual normal people that can hold an interesting conversation. I visit the forums and this is what I see: "QQ more nub." "GTFO of my forums." "L2Play" (or any varient) Most topics are along the lines of @randomperson posts, which are usually in an attempt to flame somebody. Then you have the posts where people claim that they are the best player in the game, or they'll demand the rest of the trolls come up with a list of the best players, so they can compare and do Armory checks to make sure that the armor any said person is wearing isn't as good as their 900 hour+ farmed epics that apparently everyone should be grinding for 24/7 or they're not worth the aforementioned persons' time. This behavior sickens me, but the majority of people on the forums and in the game act this way, whether they're 13 years old or 45 years old, age doesn't matter. If a company builds a "society" and bases that society on competition and gives people a reason to act like elitists, they will do it. I have played other games where there is a competitive endgame, but most of those games have made endgame content attainable by all, casual and hardcore players. And guess what you don't see in those games? People trashing each other constantly. To get to the point, I think it is horribly wrong for Blizzard to ban someone like the OP, or anyone who doesn't act like the people I've described above. But why would Blizzard change their ways and ban a majority of their playerbase? my 2 cents.
And if you visit the wow forums now there are a ton of posts complaining about the new expansion, yet none of them got banned, the OP probably just got a little carried away and started to insult people, swear and break the forum rules.
As the communiy, community is what you make it, WoW was never for the serious "up ya ass" elite MMO players who want to role play and escape their sad little lives.. thats waht EQ is for. WoW is for fun ppl who want a laugh and to be entertained.
And visit the numerous EQ,L2,DoAC,GW forums and say you dont see "OMG NOOB" comments and people boasting, you will, only you'll see more on the WoW forums because the Wow population far out numbers those populations.
I believe the OP is telling the truth. And it's a shame that Blizzard bans people for constructive criticism, or other things like that. Who here has seen the forums for that game? There are more trolls, whom would rather spend all day talking down to people, than there are actual normal people that can hold an interesting conversation. I visit the forums and this is what I see: "QQ more nub." "GTFO of my forums." "L2Play" (or any varient) Most topics are along the lines of @randomperson posts, which are usually in an attempt to flame somebody. Then you have the posts where people claim that they are the best player in the game, or they'll demand the rest of the trolls come up with a list of the best players, so they can compare and do Armory checks to make sure that the armor any said person is wearing isn't as good as their 900 hour+ farmed epics that apparently everyone should be grinding for 24/7 or they're not worth the aforementioned persons' time. This behavior sickens me, but the majority of people on the forums and in the game act this way, whether they're 13 years old or 45 years old, age doesn't matter. If a company builds a "society" and bases that society on competition and gives people a reason to act like elitists, they will do it. I have played other games where there is a competitive endgame, but most of those games have made endgame content attainable by all, casual and hardcore players. And guess what you don't see in those games? People trashing each other constantly. To get to the point, I think it is horribly wrong for Blizzard to ban someone like the OP, or anyone who doesn't act like the people I've described above. But why would Blizzard change their ways and ban a majority of their playerbase? my 2 cents.
I don't think you guys understand how the WoW forums work.
Most people who should be banned are never banned. Meanwhile, innocent people are permanently removed for the most mundane things, sometimes nothing at all. It happens a lot. As said earlier in the thread, my girlfriend at the time was banned from the forums just for a post on the forums saying that I'd been banned to explain where I went. This was on the basis of "not giving out real life information" or some other such crap. The WoW forums are trash, the moderators probably look into a mirror, sigh and put a gun against their temple on a daily basis ...
I would have liked to hear the version of Blizzard but I do believe the OP because 2 friends of mine got banned for nothing.Since the release of the game Blizzard has never listened to the community seems almost like they don`t like open criticism.As someone else said previously the game was ok the first year but after that I left.Unfortunately OP you are one in a million and there are thousands in queue to join the game.
On the other hand if you are cheating us OP,shame on you
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So on a recent topic about the new Death Knight I expressed some concern about the way this new ability would be unlocked.... In sum, I stated that "I'd be more excited for this new content if I thought I'd ever actually see it. If prior experience serves, the unlocking quest will most likely be in some form of high-level dungeon that a casual player like me could not possibly participate in." For this comment I received a permanent ban from the Blizzard forums with no prior conduct violations and no warning. I have contacted Blizzard and there is no hope of ever being able to post on my account again. They will not undo the ban. So be careful about what you say on the Blizz forums about their new baby. You don't even have to be vulgar or inflammatory to be banned. Just being a casual player expressing concern about future content seems to be reason enough to ban you permanently. Even if you are rather intelligent and articulate about how you say it. I think I just became an unperson…
I don't believe you. Seriously. If you have been banned, you must have done something against the conduct rules. If not, then you have not been banned.
I have not played WoW in a long time and my posting on their forums regarding that game has been minimal, still.
I find it cute how most assumes blizzard and their employes can do no wrong, their mods are without flaws, human emotions and so professional as being damn near machines.
Not saying the OP is not lying, because he may very well be, but then again he may not.
Judging from his posting here, ( wich agreably can be a LOT different from said post in the WoW forums ) I tend to believe him.
Hands up everyone who have been perusing forums on the internet for more then 5 years and never gotten a ban for no reason what so ever?
Word of warning to all of you who run to Blizzards defense.
Blind faith can be a very dangerous thing.
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I wonder if you honestly even believe what you type, or if you live in a made up world of facts. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I find it incredibly easy NOT to be banned from official forums, and that's coming from a guy that does like to moan about everything. Based on exerperience on the EQ1, EQ2, EVE, WoW, Planetside, SWG and a few other forums, I believe that those who have been "wrongfully banned" simply do not understand how to construct an argument without callous rhetoric.
A large proportion of people on the Internet are unable to express displeasure, distate or disagreement in a way that doesn't make them sound like an asshole. They become too emotionally involved and will post stuff like "Blizzard did this, this is retarded!!" Or they will spam a single dissenting opinion in multiple places, assuming that their opinion deserves to be heard more than anyone else.
The problem is, most people don't even realize they've stepped over the line. No matter how clever you think you're being, 'subtle' inferrences that SOE coders are a bunch of monkeys, or that another poster is an idiot, or that Blizzard are money grabbing amoral leeches, is stepping over the line.
It's perfectly possible to criticize a company, it's policies, it's product and it's employees without risk of ban. The only occaision where I've seen a company appear to 'mute' people is when there's such a hot issue that the forums are being spammed with complaints, and the company just consolidates them into a single thread about the subject.
I've labled Blizzard coders incompetent, WoW's game philosophies to be fundamentally flawed, customer service issues to be completely lacking, and never once have I been warned or banned. You just need to learn how to debate or criticize without all the emotional drivel that so many people shoehorn into their complaints about everything,
Now, the only forum I've been banned from is before is this forum. That's acceptable to me because the mods here are volunteers, and they admitted mistakes in the past (even though one mod had it in for me and deleted my entire post history for no reason at all - but that's another story).
I'm not saying Blizzard mods can never make mistakes, I'm just going from experience, that most forum posters really don't know when they're stepping over the line. I just say this based on what I've been reading on internet forums for 10 years or so. It's so much more likely that someone who cries foul did deserve to be banned, rather than it being a mistake on behalf of a paid employee.
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Well at least some of you are open-minded anyway. Thanks for your words Airspell.
I came here simply to warn you guys. It can happen. It does happen and it might happen to you. You can be banned by a forum moderator for any reason or no reason at all. It happened to me. I was one of the people who thought it couldn't happen so long as I didn’t use vulgarity or profanity. I thought as long as I was articulate and well-reasoned I would be entitled to post my opinion. I was wrong.
I'm not sure why I thought most of you would be supportive. At least a couple of you were. As for those of you who called me obscene names… I see your posts have been removed. See? It can happen to you too.
Well I could see how it's possible for this to happen. Blizzard has the attitude that they are king of all MMO's and they are duel wielding ban hammers. Cause it doesn't matter if they ban a few people every now and then with 8 million subs.
Glad to see blizzard cleaning up their forums, the whining crying and just general stupidly arrogant cocky juvenile bullshit on there is disgusting.
And op i highly suspect the post you made is false and there is more to it than what your leading us to believe.
was this your first forum vacation, have you made any other questionable posts ?
hahah, brilliant, fanboism wins again, have fun in la la land where Blizzard praises any credit you give to it's crappy game and customer service, I wouldn't bother yourself over it OP, the games been in decline for years now, it was great the first year it came out but the patches gradually wore it down, also ignore the fanboi comments, every time there's an unfair banning reported they say this and for some reason I've noticed it's the exact same people, either ignore it and carry on playing the game ( if your just banned from the forums that is ) or move on to something that you think is actually fun.
There are arseholes in Blizzard and sadly it seems they have gotten the higher up positions, deny it, whatever, I've seen stuff happening all over that game and I will never be a part of it again.
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
yes, how DARE people assume that Blizzard mods stick to their own policy and suspect that the OP Is not telling the whole story. No, it must be fanboism.
Typical hater response.
edit: nm just found out that Ok21 is only 17 years old, I have to cut the kid some slack.
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First, you're completely wrong in your assumption of how the Death Knight is unlocked. Secondly you're not telling us everything, you probably said some very nasty things to/about Blizzard or they wouldn't have banned you. There are threads everyday about people complaining or just stating there opinion on Wotlk and they don't get banned.
I kind of have to agree with Citrus, I think you may have said some nasty things, I have simply seen far worse nasty things being posted and the admins never take them down.
If unlocking a DK requires you to raid, well it makes sense, its a hero class and they don't want tons of them running around, its somewhat like unlocking a Jedi in SWG im assuming, it won't be easy.
that is exactly the type of post i'd expect from a wow player.
wow. just incredibly wow.
so the less than 1% of the population that raids should get the hero class? grats. gg. gj. gfy.
First off its a lot more than 1% who raid, the majority of people raid, second off you don't have to raid to unlock the DK class but its a chain quest that you can do, third off this is the exact quote you would see from 1. A wow hater and 2. Someone who didn't do their research.
Just because I play WoW I don't defend it stupidly, there are things that I like and things that I don't like, but categorizing me and labeling me as a WoW player and therefore my post is biased is just
. Just because I'm having a hard time believing what the OP is saying doesn't make me a fanboi or whatever you wan't to call me, all we know is what he's telling us, do you actually believe everything that you read in these forums ,or any forums? Having doubts is normal, believing everything that you read is foolish.
And OP if you brought a screenshot of what you typed that got you banned there would be alot more meat to this thread, all we know so far is words, and your side of the story, like we all say SS or it didn't happen. I am not picking sides here, if what you say is absolutely true it is unfair and it sucks but by not providing any facts all you are doing is getting the WoW haters on your side, the WoW fanbois against you and the neutrals wondering where the evidence is.
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You can download and install a simple program that hides your I.P. address. Start a new account and away you go. Never have to worry about being perma-banned on any website forums again.
Or simply abide by forum rules.
Oh but I forget, Blizzard are evil or something... They're trying to steal our internets!
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Fear not, OP, as I believe you!
I can't say I was ever banned on the forums for anything, but I have been banned in game for no reason at all. I had to go through incredible lengths, including several emails and faxes, just to get my account back! They refused to specifically state what I had done wrong, how convenient! If you don't know what they're accusing you of, how can you make an argument? I did my best to cause them grief, sadly I wasn't even compensated for their stupidity and after getting my account back I quit the game soon afterwards.
Blizzard is a large entity and it is in their best interest to stifle people that may give them a bad image. Of course there will be people loyal to the company who refuse to believe such things, it is a dangerous thing and occurs too often-- especially in governments. As a consumer or a citizen we should have the right to raise question about any such actions we feel peculiar without being reprimanded.
Some will make the argument they are simply upholding policy. Believe that if you wish, but through personal experiences I choose to believe a different view. They may single any person out at any time and ban you under any broad non-descriptive policy they wish, even if it doesn't apply to your situation. Back to my in-game banning-- I was accused of something, I pressed and pressed them for details at which point they couldn't produce anything specific so they came up with a completely different reason that could have applied to anyone.
Anyway, I feel for you. You should probably leave the game, but that is up to you.
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Huge load of BS. Nuff said.
Again, I could care less about what fanbois think of me, you can just dismiss my comments because of my age all you want, but don't bother trying to argue with me if that's the case, shit like this happens, SOE do it so why is it so unbelievable that a company of equal size like Blizzard doesn't engage in that kind of practice every now and then as well? If your trying to call me a 'hater' as if it were some kind of insult, I actually consider it a compliment to be thought of as a hater to this game, it's better than being called a fanboi because they don't take into account anything that's said to them and practically worship the game they're a fanboi of. I was unfairly banned from this very site for saying that in my opinion I considered world of warcraft to be a load of garbage, you know what? I talked to another member of staff and they actually agreed with me that it wasn't a fair ban, I think you should stick your skepticism some place where it's appreciated like in the official world of warcraft forum.
Idiots who exclude people because of their age are more childish than the people they're trying to exclude, if you want to act arrogant and claim that your better than others because of how old or young you are then fine, but it'll just make your opinion all the more worthless in the end, at least I have the guts to show my age to everyone which makes you look all the more stupid for making those kind of comments.
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
Dude if you gonna get banned from the WoW forums do it with style. At least I told Tseric to get cancer and die when I got banned.
I believe the OP is telling the truth. And it's a shame that Blizzard bans people for constructive criticism, or other things like that. Who here has seen the forums for that game? There are more trolls, whom would rather spend all day talking down to people, than there are actual normal people that can hold an interesting conversation.
I visit the forums and this is what I see:
"QQ more nub."
"GTFO of my forums."
"L2Play" (or any varient)
Most topics are along the lines of @randomperson posts, which are usually in an attempt to flame somebody. Then you have the posts where people claim that they are the best player in the game, or they'll demand the rest of the trolls come up with a list of the best players, so they can compare and do Armory checks to make sure that the armor any said person is wearing isn't as good as their 900 hour+ farmed epics that apparently everyone should be grinding for 24/7 or they're not worth the aforementioned persons' time.
This behavior sickens me, but the majority of people on the forums and in the game act this way, whether they're 13 years old or 45 years old, age doesn't matter. If a company builds a "society" and bases that society on competition and gives people a reason to act like elitists, they will do it. I have played other games where there is a competitive endgame, but most of those games have made endgame content attainable by all, casual and hardcore players. And guess what you don't see in those games? People trashing each other constantly.
To get to the point, I think it is horribly wrong for Blizzard to ban someone like the OP, or anyone who doesn't act like the people I've described above. But why would Blizzard change their ways and ban a majority of their playerbase?
my 2 cents.
As the communiy, community is what you make it, WoW was never for the serious "up ya ass" elite MMO players who want to role play and escape their sad little lives.. thats waht EQ is for. WoW is for fun ppl who want a laugh and to be entertained.
And visit the numerous EQ,L2,DoAC,GW forums and say you dont see "OMG NOOB" comments and people boasting, you will, only you'll see more on the WoW forums because the Wow population far out numbers those populations.
In normal internet, you post on forums.
In Soviet Blizzard, forums post YOU!!!!
It's clear to me that the OP made this thread to:
1) Boycott Blizzard by making outragous claims.
2) Attract flamers to start a flame war.
Who here actually believes someone got banned for saying they don't like the expansion? If you do, you're an incredibly gullible person.
WoW forums are actually worse than VN boards.
I don't think you guys understand how the WoW forums work.
Most people who should be banned are never banned. Meanwhile, innocent people are permanently removed for the most mundane things, sometimes nothing at all. It happens a lot. As said earlier in the thread, my girlfriend at the time was banned from the forums just for a post on the forums saying that I'd been banned to explain where I went. This was on the basis of "not giving out real life information" or some other such crap. The WoW forums are trash, the moderators probably look into a mirror, sigh and put a gun against their temple on a daily basis ...
They have the luxury of banning players for the pettiest crap. They know for every player they ban that day, there'll probably be 5 that subscribed.
I would have liked to hear the version of Blizzard but I do believe the OP because 2 friends of mine got banned for nothing.Since the release of the game Blizzard has never listened to the community seems almost like they don`t like open criticism.As someone else said previously the game was ok the first year but after that I left.Unfortunately OP you are one in a million and there are thousands in queue to join the game.
On the other hand if you are cheating us OP,shame on you
In the land of Predators,the lion does not fear the jackals...
I don't believe you. Seriously. If you have been banned, you must have done something against the conduct rules. If not, then you have not been banned.
Not to defend anyone but without proof the thread is not valid.
Doesnt matter how many ppl that post that they have been innocently banned or not.
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I have not played WoW in a long time and my posting on their forums regarding that game has been minimal, still.
I find it cute how most assumes blizzard and their employes can do no wrong, their mods are without flaws, human emotions and so professional as being damn near machines.
Not saying the OP is not lying, because he may very well be, but then again he may not.
Judging from his posting here, ( wich agreably can be a LOT different from said post in the WoW forums ) I tend to believe him.
Hands up everyone who have been perusing forums on the internet for more then 5 years and never gotten a ban for no reason what so ever?
Word of warning to all of you who run to Blizzards defense.
Blind faith can be a very dangerous thing.
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Originally posted by Jerek_
I wonder if you honestly even believe what you type, or if you live in a made up world of facts.
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I find it incredibly easy NOT to be banned from official forums, and that's coming from a guy that does like to moan about everything. Based on exerperience on the EQ1, EQ2, EVE, WoW, Planetside, SWG and a few other forums, I believe that those who have been "wrongfully banned" simply do not understand how to construct an argument without callous rhetoric.
A large proportion of people on the Internet are unable to express displeasure, distate or disagreement in a way that doesn't make them sound like an asshole. They become too emotionally involved and will post stuff like "Blizzard did this, this is retarded!!" Or they will spam a single dissenting opinion in multiple places, assuming that their opinion deserves to be heard more than anyone else.
The problem is, most people don't even realize they've stepped over the line. No matter how clever you think you're being, 'subtle' inferrences that SOE coders are a bunch of monkeys, or that another poster is an idiot, or that Blizzard are money grabbing amoral leeches, is stepping over the line.
It's perfectly possible to criticize a company, it's policies, it's product and it's employees without risk of ban. The only occaision where I've seen a company appear to 'mute' people is when there's such a hot issue that the forums are being spammed with complaints, and the company just consolidates them into a single thread about the subject.
I've labled Blizzard coders incompetent, WoW's game philosophies to be fundamentally flawed, customer service issues to be completely lacking, and never once have I been warned or banned. You just need to learn how to debate or criticize without all the emotional drivel that so many people shoehorn into their complaints about everything,
Now, the only forum I've been banned from is before is this forum. That's acceptable to me because the mods here are volunteers, and they admitted mistakes in the past (even though one mod had it in for me and deleted my entire post history for no reason at all - but that's another story).
I'm not saying Blizzard mods can never make mistakes, I'm just going from experience, that most forum posters really don't know when they're stepping over the line. I just say this based on what I've been reading on internet forums for 10 years or so. It's so much more likely that someone who cries foul did deserve to be banned, rather than it being a mistake on behalf of a paid employee.
Still waiting for your Holy Grail MMORPG? Interesting...