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SWG publicity stunt?
tman5
Member Posts: 604
I just saw this on the official boards
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/list.m?topic_id=474747
SOE linked their housing purge with a donation to Habitat for Humanity in a rather odd publicity attempt.
Made me think that, had they planned a little better, SOE could have grabbed some headlines by linking the NGE to population control efforts. ZPG anyone?
(Eh, it sounded funnier in my head)
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If it was, it shows that they can't even do a publicity stunt competently.
They didn't bother to TELL anyone about it did they?
People slag SOE for a lot of things, and sometimes rightly so, but I personally don't think that they deserve ridicule for giving money to a charity, especially one as important as this one.
The more that we encourage corporate donations like this, the better, no matter how you may personally feel about the company.
Cheers,
Jon Wood
Managing Editor
MMORPG.com
My intent isn't to ridicule SOE, just to poke a little fun at the rather odd linkage to the game.
Agree with above post. I got the joke.
Maybe SOE should've given 10k for the 1 millionth home built, I dunno. But I guess that wouldn't meet their "ass backward" par.
-- xpaladin
[MMOz]
AC1/2, AO, DAoC, EQ1/2, SoR, SWG, UO, WAR, WoW
Regardless, SOE is a very much disliked MMO publisher that has done everything to earn and deserve the reputation and vitriol that they get. Making charitable donations is nice, but it does nothing to resolve the many injustices the company and current management have commited in the industry.
Why do you always come to SOE's defense? I am curious.
The NGE certainly succeded in population control efforts in the virtual world where birth control has failed in the real one, that's for sure.
Great analogy.
Of course, if they could nerf the sex UI to be as unfun and awkward as the NGE one, it might be overkill... With zero reproduction the human species will die off...
I acknowledge that people have legit gripes with SOE. Personally, I have no real feelings toward the company as a whole one way or the other.
My only point was that charitable donations should always be encouraged. It's a good thing.
And yes, I do see the irony of giving such a donation for a demo project...
Cheers,
Jon Wood
Managing Editor
MMORPG.com
I acknowledge that people have legit gripes with SOE. Personally, I have no real feelings toward the company as a whole one way or the other.
My only point was that charitable donations should always be encouraged. It's a good thing.
And yes, I do see the irony of giving such a donation for a demo project...
I'd be a little less visible defending them if I were you. It's not as if there is anything for your site to gain anyway, as SOE isn't even really a legit contender in the MMO marketplace anymore. Are they even top 5 in subs anymore if you combine all their games? SOE is at best a 2nd tier publisher at this point, and they are rapidly falling into the third tier.
SOE has long been eclipsed by Blizzard, NCSoft, and yes, even Turbine, which has 4 mil subs for LOTRO...
SWG isn't even the #1 sci-fi MMO anymore... EVE has long surpassed it in subs. It's a great game, it's Pre-CU in space. Whenever you mention the NGE to any CCP people they thank SOE for it... Oh, and Eve is getting a ground game...
I acknowledge that people have legit gripes with SOE. Personally, I have no real feelings toward the company as a whole one way or the other.
My only point was that charitable donations should always be encouraged. It's a good thing.
And yes, I do see the irony of giving such a donation for a demo project...
I'd be a little less visible defending them if I were you. It's not as if there is anything for your site to gain anyway, as SOE isn't even really a legit contender in the MMO marketplace anymore. Are they even top 5 in subs anymore if you combine all their games? SOE is at best a 2nd tier publisher at this point, and they are rapidly falling into the third tier.
SOE has long been eclipsed by Blizzard, NCSoft, and yes, even Turbine, which has 4 mil subs for LOTRO...
SWG isn't even the #1 sci-fi MMO anymore... EVE has long surpassed it in subs. It's a great game, it's Pre-CU in space. Whenever you mention the NGE to any CCP people they thank SOE for it... Oh, and Eve is getting a ground game...
wow, your sheer hate amazes me lol....step off thesoap box sometime dude, when you make a game and become successful, then you should open your mouth.
I agree with stradden, and you guys would seriously gripe about anything and anything. NGE screwed the pooch, yes, but you know what? ITS A FRIGGEN GAME! I got over it, and so have countless of others. In fact, i am now playing EQ2 (OMG get your pitchefork)...EQ2 is prolly one of the best mmos out there atm.
And your talk of an eve ground game is laughable. They have mentioned that they will get areas where you can get out of your ship, but thats about it. Cabalist, your the king of the I HATE SOE trolls. its quite funny and sad at the same time.
Big word to all you SWG:NGE haters - GET OVER IT. I did, and have been alot happier and less moodier since i did. And before you say i don't play swg, i played from closed beta 2003 till last month, where i discovered EQ2
Yes, ITS A FRIGGEN GAME.
This whole site are about FRIGGEN GAMES, so why not talk about what we like or dislike with games and companies producing them? Instead of attacking posters for their opinion.
i got no problem with that, but his whole goal (look at his name and past posts) is the just keep bashing a game which has existed now for over 2 yrs, and still hasnt let go.
I am still upset at SOE. To the point that I wouldn't play ANY of their games no matter how good they were.
Of course, to a sandbox skill based MMO player like me, none of them are.
What I am still angry at is that my game was taken away. It was done with deception, ill intentions, and hatred towards the player base, and I can't find another game that is the same as what was taken away. So, I, like many pre NGE players, are left WITHOUT a suitable MMO.
That first and foremost is why the animosity still exists and will continue to exist. All SOE ever had to do was give us our game back, admit a mistake like a mature adult, and move on. They have failed to do this. In fact at this point the bridge is so thouroughly burned I might not ever patronize SOE again even if they DID offer pre-CU.
yes, soe could have given your game back..but LA would have never allowed it
I will be a lot happier once SWG is dead and gone, yes. That will be closure. Of course, I also want to see SOE cease to exist as a MMO publisher. I also think that will happen... They haven't had a sucessful launch of a game in over 3 years...
Dead horse, meet flogger...
That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!
You all with the "get over it" crusade, I might have agreed with you except SOE continues in the quest to massively change their games. The C6 Combat Downgrade places a WoW type combat system in the game, creating lag to the max, many many bugs, and brought back the player base to about cl 50 in comparison to what was before. Again all done in an overnight patch with very little advance notice to most of the player base. When they have a thread, in their forums, of 67 pages of thier customers who do not like their "significant" change, as they call it, they again, like CUNGE, say nothing. They continue to make these mistakes over and over and over.
I doubt I'll "get over it" anytime soon and I can understand why after 2 years others haven't "got over it" either.
Why must you people continue to be complete and utter ignorant idiots? SOE LICENSED Star Wars from Lucas Arts. The whole NGE was forced upon them by Lucas Arts, and changes continue to come from them. Why does SOE put up with it? Because SWG is still making them craploads of cash. Not as much as WoW, but enough for them to stick with this, even with the hell that the old school players give them for it.
If you want old school SWG, look for the Emulation project that is so widely visible. SOE can't open up "classic" servers because of the license, so quit holding out hope that by sitting around bitching, moaning and complaining enough will get you what you wish.
If you want a SIMILAR experience, with a Science Fantasy feel, try out Ryzom. Not quite the same, but it will have to do.
SOE should be applauded for their charitable contributions rather than ridiculed because they made the game you loved something you now hate.
Trust me, we are WELL aware of the Pre-CU projects and I think that when that happens there will be a lot of shock and awe in the mmo world.
SOE gave $10K to charity, kudos to them. It does nothing to address how they treat their customers or does anything to change the way they continue to do business. Their charity PR stunt does nothing to change my opinion of the company or the folks in charge of the company.
Why must you people continue to be complete and utter ignorant idiots? SOE LICENSED Star Wars from Lucas Arts. The whole NGE was forced upon them by Lucas Arts, and changes continue to come from them. Why does SOE put up with it? Because SWG is still making them craploads of cash. Not as much as WoW, but enough for them to stick with this, even with the hell that the old school players give them for it.
If you want old school SWG, look for the Emulation project that is so widely visible. SOE can't open up "classic" servers because of the license, so quit holding out hope that by sitting around bitching, moaning and complaining enough will get you what you wish.
If you want a SIMILAR experience, with a Science Fantasy feel, try out Ryzom. Not quite the same, but it will have to do.
SOE should be applauded for their charitable contributions rather than ridiculed because they made the game you loved something you now hate.
According to folks who were actually involved with the NGE's conception and development, LEC did nothing more than approve it. If SWG made SOE "craploads of cash", there would be a much larger development team devoted to it. As it is, SWG has the third smallest dev team (behind MxO and Planetside).
It does not have to change your opinion in how you feel towards the company in how they do business, and this has nothing to do with how you or anyone feels about SWG. The following also does not have to change your point of view about the company, just be abit more open minded when you see things like this
Important Message For Subscribers Impacted By Hurricane Katrina
In the summer of 2005 Hurricane Katrina left an incredible wake of destruction across the Gulf Coast of the United States. The damage done by the hurricane was unprecedented and impacted countless lives. In response to the hurricane, SOE suspended billing for over 13,000 players living in the affected areas to give them the time they needed to recover.
For the two years that have followed, the accounts of the affected SOE gamers have not been billed but have been preserved. Beginning on Monday, September 17th, the accounts for these 13,000 SOE gamers will resume the normal billing processes. If you lived in an area affected by Hurricane Katrina in 2005 please check your account information before September 17th to ensure that everything is accurate and there is no disruption in your ability to play.
Our best wishes go out to all those who were affected by the disaster and we'd like to thank our SOE players for their continued patronage.
You guys just cant see past the hate and its just sad really... I'm sure alot of ppl out there are going "$10k for charity huh? Well what about the misstreated SWG veterans god dammit!!1" haha
According to folks who were actually involved with the NGE's conception and development, LEC did nothing more than approve it. If SWG made SOE "craploads of cash", there would be a much larger development team devoted to it. As it is, SWG has the third smallest dev team (behind MxO and Planetside).
Doesn't wash, never did. What I've seen of those accounts basically amounted to SOE saying "Yeah, we are the ones who built it". Well, DUH! Of course they built it; that's their job.
What is not talked about is who conceived of the NGE and pushed it live. I'm not referring to that Battle Front-esque adaptation of JTL combat to the ground game; it wasn't a very good idea because the engine couldn't and can't support it properly. But if NGE was that and nothing else, the reaction would not have been remotely as harsh. The heart of NGE was the near-amputation of the game's complexity and noncombat aspects, streamlining down to a railroaded, straitjacketed class-and-level console game aimed (they made no bones about this) squarely at children.
Changes of this magnitude go far beyond the rubber stamp approval process. This is Star Wars™; much more minor things have gone unfixed since launch because LEC refused to sign off on them. I can believe that LEC, lacking understanding of the MMO market, might not understand the difference, but SOE has not such excuse. Galaxies took a significant hit with the CU just 6 months before, and was only just (arguably) recovering when the NGE bomb hit.