the game already isn't group friendly... now you realllly don't need one to lvl. and it gives you an XP hit... stupid solo mmos. i'm just pissed 'cause i have to group with my GF but we could lvl faster by ourselves =
Drop wow and go to the bedroom, u ll have a much better time dude trust me!!!!1111
the game already isn't group friendly... now you realllly don't need one to lvl. and it gives you an XP hit... stupid solo mmos. i'm just pissed 'cause i have to group with my GF but we could lvl faster by ourselves =
Drop wow and go to the bedroom, u ll have a much better time dude trust me!!!!1111
the game already isn't group friendly... now you realllly don't need one to lvl. and it gives you an XP hit... stupid solo mmos. i'm just pissed 'cause i have to group with my GF but we could lvl faster by ourselves =
Drop wow and go to the bedroom, u ll have a much better time dude trust me!!!!1111
the game already isn't group friendly... now you realllly don't need one to lvl. and it gives you an XP hit... stupid solo mmos. i'm just pissed 'cause i have to group with my GF but we could lvl faster by ourselves =
Drop wow and go to the bedroom, u ll have a much better time dude trust me!!!!1111
the game already isn't group friendly... now you realllly don't need one to lvl. and it gives you an XP hit... stupid solo mmos. i'm just pissed 'cause i have to group with my GF but we could lvl faster by ourselves =
Drop wow and go to the bedroom, u ll have a much better time dude trust me!!!!1111
You're 25 and still think like this?
Huh? u actually prefer wow to having s*x?
There's a word for people who prefer video games to sex. That word is "married."
I would rather have some new lower level content then that. So what just because its faster doesnt make it any less boring the second time around.
IDK they added 60 quests to the worst part of the 60 grind if you can even call it that bad, I look forward to what they are doing with dustwallow marsh
the game already isn't group friendly... now you realllly don't need one to lvl. and it gives you an XP hit... stupid solo mmos. i'm just pissed 'cause i have to group with my GF but we could lvl faster by ourselves =
Drop wow and go to the bedroom, u ll have a much better time dude trust me!!!!1111
You're 25 and still think like this?
Huh? u actually prefer wow to having s*x?
The point was that there's more to a relationship than sex. If you're 25 and still haven't figured this out, I feel a little sorry for you.
the game already isn't group friendly... now you realllly don't need one to lvl. and it gives you an XP hit... stupid solo mmos. i'm just pissed 'cause i have to group with my GF but we could lvl faster by ourselves =
Drop wow and go to the bedroom, u ll have a much better time dude trust me!!!!1111
You're 25 and still think like this?
Huh? u actually prefer wow to having s*x?
The point was that there's more to a relationship than sex. If you're 25 and still haven't figured this out, I feel a little sorry for you.
LOL of course there is, but i never waste the time i share with my gf playing online games, that is something i do on my own during my free time, there are much better things to do when my gf is around than play games, except maybe a little cosplay
we live together so we spend a lot of time together. we do things other than play wow... thats like a two hour thing a day at most. why hate on me for enjoying a form of entertainment with my gf?
I am excited to hear about this 2.3 WoW patch. Will it be pre Wrath of the Lich King or after? It might beckon me back into the Blizzard fold. Sounds like Blizzard is trying to make improvements to allow more ways for people to enjoy the game & progress. Now the question is when will Blizzard implement these changes & which changes?
SOE is apparently considering similar concepts with Everquest, but so far they have set-up forums asking for suggestions which is nice. Seems EQ's possible enhancements wont occur till after the Secrets of Faydwer expansion release though.
Seems Blizzard is communicating more than SOE so far. They both have expansions releasing in the near future too. Having fun & being able to progress definitely matters.
My nostalgia wants to chose EQ, but I do not have the grind time anymore. For conveinence & fun then I would side with WoW. Either way both Blizzard & SOE are attempting to earn back loyalty from players for WoW & EQ which seems like a good indicator as longs as there not just hollow promises. I just hope they actualy listen & consider suggestions while doing the game changes.
the game already isn't group friendly... now you realllly don't need one to lvl. and it gives you an XP hit... stupid solo mmos. i'm just pissed 'cause i have to group with my GF but we could lvl faster by ourselves =
Drop wow and go to the bedroom, u ll have a much better time dude trust me!!!!1111
You're 25 and still think like this?
Huh? u actually prefer wow to having s*x?
There's a word for people who prefer video games to sex. That word is "married."
I spit Pepsi out of my nose for this, and then cried a little. If my wife wasn't sitting right next to me right now I'd elaborate. Instead, I'll just say that this is one of those frightening things I didn't realize until you mentioned it.
Currently Playing: Nothing...I'm developing. Looking Forward To:
we live together so we spend a lot of time together. we do things other than play wow... thats like a two hour thing a day at most. why hate on me for enjoying a form of entertainment with my gf?
I meant it as a joke man, sry if i offended u (not kidding)
the game already isn't group friendly... now you realllly don't need one to lvl. and it gives you an XP hit... stupid solo mmos. i'm just pissed 'cause i have to group with my GF but we could lvl faster by ourselves =
Drop wow and go to the bedroom, u ll have a much better time dude trust me!!!!1111
You're 25 and still think like this?
Huh? u actually prefer wow to having s*x?
The point was that there's more to a relationship than sex. If you're 25 and still haven't figured this out, I feel a little sorry for you.
LOL of course there is, but i never waste the time i share with my gf playing online games, that is something i do on my own during my free time, there are much better things to do when my gf is around than play games, except maybe a little cosplay
And what if a common interest is online gaming? How is it a waste to enjoy video/PC games with a girlfriend/boyfriend?
Originally posted by project8six yes but i want a BONUS for grouping in online multiplayer game... not penalties.
No one is stopping you from running a dungeon or getting to 70 and raiding. The dungeons and quests related to them will still be there. This adjustment just ensures that the now stale and dead non-Outland zones can be played by folks who have come late into the game.
I don't know if you've notice or were truly around at the start but Azeroth was dead over night and has stayed dead ever since TBC came out and sucked away all the established players to it on almost every server.
Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.
I've just read about this and it does seem to have a very enthusiastic reception. The thing is while I recognize removing elites for solo quests as a positive move, the other changes I think is perhaps a shame because it just makes it a rush for the end and while they have added more drops it is going to be even more solo now. Why? Why waste time on looking for a group when you can just solo xp even quicker now? Sod the grouping player, every player just wants to solo, really.
hmmm... might be worth re-subbing and leveling up a new toon, then just letting him sit until the expansion comes out... if they add enough new stuff for PVP to make it fun and not grind heavy... and depending on when WAR is released...
You've got to be kidding me right? 15% WOW that is nothing if you fall for this you're retarded just go play TF2 or ETQW and let WoW DIE ALREADY!!!!!! Seriously that needed to say 50% for me to even consider playing that awful grind fest again. COME ON PEOPLE THINK ABOUT IT FOR A SECOND JEEZ
As many of you already know we've been working on changes designed to improve various aspects of leveling for those making their way to level 60. These improvements, available in patch 2.3 will come in many forms and should significantly contribute to a more fluid and enjoyable leveling experience .
The first notable change was to simply reduce the amount of experience needed each level by approximately 15% between levels 20 and 60. Please note that when the patch is released, characters affected by this change will remain at their current level percentage. For example, if a character had exactly 50% of the current level's total experience before this change went into effect, the character would still have exactly 50% of the current level's total experience; only now fewer points would be needed to level.
Questing plays a very large role in World of Warcraft, especially while leveling and we felt that improvements to this front were necessary as well. Experience gained for completing quests (on average) between levels 30 and 60 is being increased. The increase becomes more substantial as you make your way towards 60. Additionally, many outdoor elite mobs will become non-elites, making many quests which were previously too difficult or required a group much easier and offer the same rewards (in some cases better!). A good example of this change would be Stromgarde Keep in Arathi Highlands, which will become a solo friendly environment when patch 2.3 goes live.
We've also added approximately 60 new quests in Dustwallow Marsh. This should help players who find themselves lacking quests in the 30-40 range. The Steamwheedle Cartel is building the new town of Mudsprocket in south-west Dustwallow Marsh, so you'll have to wait until construction is complete to learn more about these changes.
We're making other improvements to pre-bc leveling dungeons that players will likely find most agreeable. The level range for most every dungeon is being adjusted so that there is a much smaller range between the level of mobs found early in the dungeon to those found towards the end. For example, Shadowfang Keep is currently designed for levels 18-25 which means that right now, players who are towards the bottom of that range (18) will find it nearly impossible to complete the dungeon, while players towards the top of the range (25) will find most of the dungeon trivial. Using our new model (similar to what you'll notice with Burning Crusade leveling dungeons), Shadowfang Keep is being retuned for levels 18-21.
We also want to make running a leveling up dungeon more worth while. In addition to increasing quest experience for dungeon quests, we're also upgrading all pre-bc dungeon boss drops to blue quality items. Some examples are listed below:
Ragefire Chasm
Robe of Evocation old: +3 Stamina, + 4 Intelligence
Robe of Evocation new: +4 Stamina, +5 Intelligence, and +5 Spell Critical Strike Rating
As you can see there is much in-store for the next major content patch, particularly a number of changes designed to benefit players who are leveling a character. Though we've given you a few examples of the things to come, we think everyone will be pleasantly surprised when they see the full extent of the changes discussed above.
great idea imo i been checking the notes/updates to 2.3 looks like the best patch ever
Seems like a good update ( never thought i would say that about wow patch again lol ) Before burning crusade i would probably say that this is going to making leveling even more of a solo experience but it is now anyway this patch is just to accept that fact and make the solo experience as good as possible.
Oh and finally spell damage on low level gear, something they should of done ages ago might bother making a priest now only class i never really tried past level 20 due to the slow and boring leveling. Hopefully they add quite alot of new spell dmg gear/improvements for lower levels like the quality you get in outlands ( in terms of lots of useful choices not get a green/blue and use it for 30 levels )
Change for stormegaurd isnt bad either, more people will be able to do the quest now most of the time you have to skip them due to the lack of people in the area.
edit: btw to all the people complaining about reducing experience god grow up, wow is the easiest and quickest leveling in any mmo 15% is fine for a decrease in experience needed for leveling 50% like the last guy suggested lol i can already level a character to 70 in 2 weeks playing 1 hour a day and this isnt even spending most of that hour leveling.
15% decreased experience is bloody generous, and leveling isnt a grind if you dont like leveing why play the game? you have to level to reach end game after all, but we all know these are the same type of guys who bot/cheat/buy gold etc then complain about the grind lol.
Lastly i agree this patch is so bloody late its not even funny all of this should of been added with the burning crusade but it wasn't, but atleast they have added it and they are improving they just take so long doing it which is one of the reason i quit they take so long to fix things like that orc shoulder bug for instance -_-
edit: btw to all the people complaining about reducing experience god grow up, wow is the easiest and quickest leveling in any mmo 15% is fine for a decrease in experience needed for leveling 50% like the last guy suggested lol i can already level a character to 70 in 2 weeks playing 1 hour a day and this isnt even spending most of that hour leveling. 15% decreased experience is bloody generous, and leveling isnt a grind if you dont like leveing why play the game? you have to level to reach end game after all, but we all know these are the same type of guys who bot/cheat/buy gold etc then complain about the grind lol.
I haven't once complained about it I mearly came across some website with this patch info and am trying to warn people who think they should go back because of this faster leveling stuff to stay away.
Even faster leveling won't help make the game play any more enjoyable if you've already leveled up to 60 or 70 it's still going to be the same old stuff. I would have rather seen them add more zones and new quests in the old world than faster leveling.
The only complaint I had was why did they add new races if all they added was new 1-20 content. They needed to add more stuff for levels 20-60 imo.
And your 1-70 in 2 weeks with 1 hour a day is impossible unless grinding got easier since I left about 5 months ago or I see a screenshot of /played in 14 hours.
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Drop wow and go to the bedroom, u ll have a much better time dude trust me!!!!1111
Drop wow and go to the bedroom, u ll have a much better time dude trust me!!!!1111
Yes, the group bonus is great there
Drop wow and go to the bedroom, u ll have a much better time dude trust me!!!!1111
You're 25 and still think like this?
Drop wow and go to the bedroom, u ll have a much better time dude trust me!!!!1111
You're 25 and still think like this?
Huh? u actually prefer wow to having s*x?
Drop wow and go to the bedroom, u ll have a much better time dude trust me!!!!1111
You're 25 and still think like this?
Huh? u actually prefer wow to having s*x?
There's a word for people who prefer video games to sex. That word is "married."
I would rather have some new lower level content then that. So what just because its faster doesnt make it any less boring the second time around.
IDK they added 60 quests to the worst part of the 60 grind if you can even call it that bad, I look forward to what they are doing with dustwallow marsh
Drop wow and go to the bedroom, u ll have a much better time dude trust me!!!!1111
You're 25 and still think like this?
Huh? u actually prefer wow to having s*x?
The point was that there's more to a relationship than sex. If you're 25 and still haven't figured this out, I feel a little sorry for you.
Drop wow and go to the bedroom, u ll have a much better time dude trust me!!!!1111
You're 25 and still think like this?
Huh? u actually prefer wow to having s*x?
The point was that there's more to a relationship than sex. If you're 25 and still haven't figured this out, I feel a little sorry for you.
LOL of course there is, but i never waste the time i share with my gf playing online games, that is something i do on my own during my free time, there are much better things to do when my gf is around than play games, except maybe a little cosplay
we live together so we spend a lot of time together. we do things other than play wow... thats like a two hour thing a day at most. why hate on me for enjoying a form of entertainment with my gf?
die.
I am excited to hear about this 2.3 WoW patch. Will it be pre Wrath of the Lich King or after? It might beckon me back into the Blizzard fold. Sounds like Blizzard is trying to make improvements to allow more ways for people to enjoy the game & progress. Now the question is when will Blizzard implement these changes & which changes?
SOE is apparently considering similar concepts with Everquest, but so far they have set-up forums asking for suggestions which is nice. Seems EQ's possible enhancements wont occur till after the Secrets of Faydwer expansion release though.
Seems Blizzard is communicating more than SOE so far. They both have expansions releasing in the near future too. Having fun & being able to progress definitely matters.
My nostalgia wants to chose EQ, but I do not have the grind time anymore. For conveinence & fun then I would side with WoW. Either way both Blizzard & SOE are attempting to earn back loyalty from players for WoW & EQ which seems like a good indicator as longs as there not just hollow promises. I just hope they actualy listen & consider suggestions while doing the game changes.
Drop wow and go to the bedroom, u ll have a much better time dude trust me!!!!1111
You're 25 and still think like this?
Huh? u actually prefer wow to having s*x?
There's a word for people who prefer video games to sex. That word is "married."
I spit Pepsi out of my nose for this, and then cried a little. If my wife wasn't sitting right next to me right now I'd elaborate. Instead, I'll just say that this is one of those frightening things I didn't realize until you mentioned it.
Currently Playing: Nothing...I'm developing.
Looking Forward To:
I meant it as a joke man, sry if i offended u (not kidding)
Drop wow and go to the bedroom, u ll have a much better time dude trust me!!!!1111
You're 25 and still think like this?
Huh? u actually prefer wow to having s*x?
The point was that there's more to a relationship than sex. If you're 25 and still haven't figured this out, I feel a little sorry for you.
LOL of course there is, but i never waste the time i share with my gf playing online games, that is something i do on my own during my free time, there are much better things to do when my gf is around than play games, except maybe a little cosplay
And what if a common interest is online gaming? How is it a waste to enjoy video/PC games with a girlfriend/boyfriend?
No one is stopping you from running a dungeon or getting to 70 and raiding. The dungeons and quests related to them will still be there. This adjustment just ensures that the now stale and dead non-Outland zones can be played by folks who have come late into the game.
I don't know if you've notice or were truly around at the start but Azeroth was dead over night and has stayed dead ever since TBC came out and sucked away all the established players to it on almost every server.
Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.
Game(s) I Am Currently Playing:
GW2 (+LoL and BF3)
So they actually made leveling up to 60 faster. Yeah, that is really what needed to be done to the game, make leveling easier.
good news....might reactivate my account
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im pissed off that new comers will have it easier then me when i first started but then again im happy so i can level alts
I've just read about this and it does seem to have a very enthusiastic reception. The thing is while I recognize removing elites for solo quests as a positive move, the other changes I think is perhaps a shame because it just makes it a rush for the end and while they have added more drops it is going to be even more solo now. Why? Why waste time on looking for a group when you can just solo xp even quicker now? Sod the grouping player, every player just wants to solo, really.
hmmm... might be worth re-subbing and leveling up a new toon, then just letting him sit until the expansion comes out... if they add enough new stuff for PVP to make it fun and not grind heavy... and depending on when WAR is released...
hmmm...
I felt the same way after playing EQ1 for years, then all of a sudden, Noobs had Racial Armor, no Corpse Runs, no exp loss for death, ect...
But, like you mentioned, it'll make it easier to level alts & the like. Besides, the 60-80 grind will be the same, so that'll be a challenge.
BTW, anyone know when this patch is scheduled for?
You've got to be kidding me right? 15% WOW that is nothing if you fall for this you're retarded just go play TF2 or ETQW and let WoW DIE ALREADY!!!!!! Seriously that needed to say 50% for me to even consider playing that awful grind fest again. COME ON PEOPLE THINK ABOUT IT FOR A SECOND JEEZ
Seems like a good update ( never thought i would say that about wow patch again lol ) Before burning crusade i would probably say that this is going to making leveling even more of a solo experience but it is now anyway this patch is just to accept that fact and make the solo experience as good as possible.
Oh and finally spell damage on low level gear, something they should of done ages ago might bother making a priest now only class i never really tried past level 20 due to the slow and boring leveling. Hopefully they add quite alot of new spell dmg gear/improvements for lower levels like the quality you get in outlands ( in terms of lots of useful choices not get a green/blue and use it for 30 levels
)
Change for stormegaurd isnt bad either, more people will be able to do the quest now most of the time you have to skip them due to the lack of people in the area.
edit: btw to all the people complaining about reducing experience god grow up, wow is the easiest and quickest leveling in any mmo 15% is fine for a decrease in experience needed for leveling 50% like the last guy suggested lol i can already level a character to 70 in 2 weeks playing 1 hour a day and this isnt even spending most of that hour leveling.
15% decreased experience is bloody generous, and leveling isnt a grind if you dont like leveing why play the game? you have to level to reach end game after all, but we all know these are the same type of guys who bot/cheat/buy gold etc then complain about the grind lol.
Lastly i agree this patch is so bloody late its not even funny all of this should of been added with the burning crusade but it wasn't, but atleast they have added it and they are improving they just take so long doing it which is one of the reason i quit they take so long to fix things like that orc shoulder bug for instance -_-
I haven't once complained about it I mearly came across some website with this patch info and am trying to warn people who think they should go back because of this faster leveling stuff to stay away.
Even faster leveling won't help make the game play any more enjoyable if you've already leveled up to 60 or 70 it's still going to be the same old stuff. I would have rather seen them add more zones and new quests in the old world than faster leveling.
The only complaint I had was why did they add new races if all they added was new 1-20 content. They needed to add more stuff for levels 20-60 imo.
And your 1-70 in 2 weeks with 1 hour a day is impossible unless grinding got easier since I left about 5 months ago or I see a screenshot of /played in 14 hours.