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Hmm...here's what I learned from the Development Journal....(which was the OP's original topic)
1) Placeholder vegetation and sounds have been updated.
2) Monsters are being tuned including animations and skills.
3) Player character animations are being worked on.
4) Enchantment interface has been improved to be more intuitive
5) Portal Camping will be discouraged
6) City Defenses have been beefed up
7) QA is boring, but ongoing.....
8) Clans can get bonuses for building specific buildings
9) etc, etc etc...
Now, what I learned from the 5 or 6 pages of posts in between the OP's and mine? Zip.
Any chance we could discuss the potential merits of the game instead of rehashing the same tired arguments about whether the game exists, whether its properly funded, whether they've done any work at all anywhere etc etc?
To the doubters..even if the game doesn't exist...wouldn't it be great to have a game with some of these features. Someone said it was a Shadowbane clone....I wish...Shadowbane is one of the best games ever made that failed due to poor execution. It could have been a contender........
Keep one thing in mind...Mythic released DAOC with a team that I believe was smaller than this.... so it is possible to create a game w/o 200+ staff on the team... (hey, they've had 6 or 7 years..right?)
I think sometimes people overestimate the difficulty of making a game..... not quite as hard as they think.... (not rocket science you know)
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Yes this thread did derail quite a long time ago which happens alot on these forums. Of course I'm sure someone is going to blame someone else but fault belongs with both parties just so we can stop a 3-4 page rant on pointing fingers.
Back on topic. I really like how the animations are being worked on since some of the earlier ones didn't seem right which really isn't much but its always nice to have smoother animations.
yea the character movemeant looked a lil weird lets hope they show a new vid once the improve on them : )
Sure in the end development time is going to take longer, but I think some of these people need to go and find some other offline games to play, I hear spore and Crysis are coming out soon I'm certainly going to get both for christmas since they'll offer lots of replay value, but I don't see why Darkfall should be bashed when it's been keeping in a lot more regular contact with the community with Dev Journals than I see from the mainstream games that these trolls seem to brag about for entire years, I have yet to see an actual interview with a real Blizzard developer for instance or a community manager actually speaking with the player base.
Vaporware trolls are like mainstream game companies, they bring out the same crap again and again because they can't be bothered coming up with something original.
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
"Keep one thing in mind...Mythic released DAOC with a team that I believe was smaller than this."
http://www.mythic-realms.com/
Mythic Entertainment were seasoned professionals that built MANY smaller and highly successful multiplayer games like MageStorm , Spellbinder , AliensOnline and more before building DAOC. Not to mention they built it on proven technology. No comparison..
Oh and it only took them 3 years to build DAOC..... not 6 with still no end in site..
"I think sometimes people overestimate the difficulty of making a game..... not quite as hard as they think.... (not rocket science you know) "
Than you obviously have no clue what you're talking about because building a MMORPG is one of the toughest things anyone could ever hope to code.
"they bring out the same crap again and again because they can't be bothered coming up with something original."
Kind of like the news released by Darkfall over the last 6 years eh??
obviously you mean to say thats what you said before,, because you and him are the same person
Yeah, that ^^^^^ is clearly elitexion.
Well if you are going to lie about it, sir, you should at least change your location/age on one of the two accounts you are posting with.
Otherwise, people would know that you are using another account to back up your own posts. Well played.
I think darkfall will fetch 100K subscribers easily. Something like 80-90% of everyone who has ever played an MMO has only come into the genre with the last 3-4 years due to WoW. They missed UO, AC, SB- they missed the good old days. You'll find the folks who were around back then will make up the backbone of darkfall's player base. From there it will spread to the several million WoW newbies like Ron Paul through the internet.
You've got a free MMO list in here with over 250K views and people constantly crying about there being nothing different to play.
100K subscribers for darkfall easy.
Hope you got your things together. Hope you are quite prepared to die. Looks like we're in for nasty weather. ... There's a bad moon on the rise.
Darkfall Online is going to have over 500k subscribers because its innovative. Watch & learn.
500k subscribers? That would signal Armageddon, cause surely the world's end would be nigh.
How about they get it out the door first, or even into BETA, before we start throwing around bold, mythical numbers?
Like I said, Darkfall will be popular because its innovative, and it has purpose to PvP. Unlike WoW and every other EQ clone in the works.
Also I am free to say 500k because thats my opinion. I could say 2 million but that might be stretching it. Okey since its up for debate, lets compromise at 250k, because we all know that imagination is the best game ever, and reality has no relation to imagination, therefore lets pretend that Darkfall doesnt exist at all and say it will have 1 player, namely myself.
DARKFALL IS GONNA BE SO AWESOME ALONE !!!
Yes Darkfall will have 500k subscribers if it actually ends up having all of the features it promised. And if the servers can handle thousands of people playing at once. And if the game isn't all buggy and laggy. But those are some big ifs.
Dark and light would have 500k subscribers if it delivered everything they promised. ROma Victor would have 500k subscribers if it had delivered everything they promised.
500k is a major stretch at this point...
-niche games like darkfall normally dont get that high interms of subscriptions. and ontop of that, the lack of info from darkfall itself right now isn't helping its case either.. Let alone people just pulling numbers out of thin air-
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In the end, none of us could possibly guess the games future (if it releases with what it promises) population/subscription count.
yep ghoul thats the right ifs you should be asking not other ifs but you also shouldnt call the devs liers when they say it is almost feature complete no other games that promised this ever said it was feature complete before beta so i guess when beta starts up we will find out
them ifs are whats going to make the game blow your wad good or the dark and light problem : /
just for some reason i trust these devs but i guess we will see
innovative? Whats so innovative about Darkfall? There is nothing innovative about Darkfall. It's just a generic sandbox PvP game like Shadowbane..
You think just because it has sandbox pvp and skills that makes it "innovative? haha
Its innovative because they (the developers) dont care about the community whining and trolling.
A lesser company maybe would have taken away the full loot or open PvP when people *¤#"¤ about it.
That's because they can't change it anymore. It's too late. Otherwise I am sure they would have already. They're basically making a game that will be sure to make them as little money as possible based on their game design... Like it or not... not many people like playing games like Darkfall... They're basically building a game that caters to the lowest commen denominators..
pretty smart business move..
Yes Lance...DF is NOT a mainstram MMO. Thats the whole point with it. Its a PvP oriented MMO developed by PvPers for PvPers.
And i would say thats a very smart move.....since there exist NO such thing.
They will have the first one.
And Shadowbane......that was level based, level based MMOs dont work.
Level based mmo's don't work? Maybe you should go tell that to every level based mmorpg out there that has millions of subscribers. I am sure they'll be interested in knowing..
And yes - Shadowbane is a PvP mmorpg just like Darkfall... The base of it's gameplay is exactly like Darkfall. Just because it has levels instead of skills means NOTHING.
and can someone ban this FULLLOOT clown? It's obviously another Alt account from that bipolar exion fellow.
Level based MMOs dont work..yep..its true. I tryed one once, worst thing i ever done.
Its like McDonalds, everyone is eating there, but its still shit.
Well I am sure your personal opinion and one subscribed account makes a big difference in what is and isn't considered shit in the big picture.
The Darkfall fanboys need to start waking up and understanding that the only opinion that matters is the masses opinion. Unless they like playing games alone and giving out donations just to keep the boat from sinking.
Yeah, thats true.
But still...level based MMOs and McDonalds, i ask people why they eat there....and people answers "its easy to go there...you know what you get".....
Millions of people do it, but there must be millions of people that dont fall for that.
I need some competition when i play, i dont want ot easy. And DF is the only MMO that can promise me "it sure as hell wont be easy"....thats like music for my ears.
If this is true, this game will be awesome.
But Im hype-immune since VG so, lets wait until it gets released.