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Linna
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http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/list.m?&topic_id=516317
no idea if/when this will get locked/deleted, so here's the post:
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On station launcher there are new servers listed. Aken, Boldheart, Byrt, Etherway, Freejack, Gabrielle, Kratak, Revenant, and Windsinger. Its just a thought with the somewhat recent confession of John Smedly that NGE was a mistake.
/discuss
No flames if you don't like what I'm posting then tuff ****.
Message edited by Arroth on 10/29/2007 15:44:53.
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All are verified SW universe names. 2 streams of thought:
1 - classic servers at last
2 - server consolidation the sneaky way: just plug them all on new servers, and devil take the hindmost
Knowing SOE, I vote 2
Linna
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OMG did hell just freeze over ?
2 big time
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I concur with Server Consolidation. I would be inclined to think that the populated servers (Heavy) will remain operating as well. So all of the barren to light servers will be merged... Well merge is the polite way of saying shutting down those servers.
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I don't know if this has been said before but it seems to go along with the theory. I was thinking about the real reason they gave us 4 toons on tcp could it be to find out how the servers would handle it and how the economy would hold out if there was a server merge?
Took this from the $oe boards also
the server are internal test servers that were posted up on the station launcher via a bug=/
Dito from the $oe boards
seems like a lot of test servers ?????
my guess is that these are testbeds for consolidation. since they cant really consolidate, i think they will take the easy way out and announce all existing servers are closing, and transfer everyone to new servers.
rofl i only read the first page. I could only take "ZOMG CU IS BUTTER THEN PRE_CU!!!" posts. Those guys are so retarded, theyd trade one turd for another turd.
EDIT: i vote number 2
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It makes sense that all players will be transferred to brand new servers so there's no need to deconflict real estate claims. Furthermore, all crafters will be, simultaneously, stripped of all resources they've accumulated and will be faced equally with a six month cycle of resource collecting to gather the best resources on the 10 new servers.
The downside of this is that they'll be faced with more mass cancellations by people who are understandably pissed that they're being stripped of resources they've been potentially accumulating for nearly four and a half years, or of real estate they've occupied for that same time period. Believe me, serious crafters who didn't leave when the NGE hit and have been playing since launch may very well have resources that old in a crafting house somewhere. Not to mention uber stuff they may have gathered last month...gone with a server consolidation that eliminates the current servers, which is certainly implied by this information.
Such a server merge plan would destroy player cities that have stood for nearly four years; many of the player cities on Ahazi have existed since the player city publish.
Destroying a player city on Ahazi/Naboo will be the final straw for the last remaining active member of my old guild, for example. Once again, the devs are destroying player accomplishments with very little thought of how players will react.
There's also one teensie-weensie little problem with server merges on this scale:
Resolving name conflicts. This is huge, because it extends into crafted items that are all labled with the creator's name, which must be unique on the server.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
Once a denizen of Ahazi
Thanks for copy and pasting something i could of easily read over at the SOE boards. Then again i guess you guys always go out on a limb.
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Linna
Alas, locked now. Looks like it were indeed the internal test servers, according to this:
TSR-JasonC wrote:
Still, fun while it lasted.
Linna
Still, fun while it lasted.
Linna
Yes. Indeed. Internal test servers. Given fancy Star Warsy names- such as you would find on live servers- as opposed to simply Server001, Server002 - as you would find anywhere else.
SOE's track record suggests something is going on. This "accidental" tipping of the hand is meant to generate buzz. In ~ 4 years of farting around with the servers and game code, never has the internal servers become visable on Launch Pad. Why suddenly now?
It is a given that a server merge or character transfer is essential for the game's long-term health. I believe, despite dev denials, such is being prepared and will be implemented within 6 months.
Still, fun while it lasted.
Linna
Yes. Indeed. Internal test servers. Given fancy Star Warsy names- such as you would find on live servers- as opposed to simply Server001, Server002 - as you would find anywhere else.
SOE's track record suggests something is going on. This "accidental" tipping of the hand is meant to generate buzz. In ~ 4 years of farting around with the servers and game code, never has the internal servers become visable on Launch Pad. Why suddenly now?
It is a given that a server merge or character transfer is essential for the game's long-term health. I believe, despite dev denials, such is being prepared and will be implemented within 6 months.
Put that way, indeed, it is a bit odd to have your internal servers on the same system as public test server and live servers (although I would submit giving them names is less odd). On the other hand, it IS something that people who are terminally lazy would do. And we ARE talking SOE here.Linna
Looks a little bit suspicous to me, running unofficial test servers for the DEVs via launchpad and not on a closed system seems a bit silly. Then giving them names similar to live servers rather than just numbers, then having them all suddenly become viewable by the customer at once for the first time in four years. Added that this has never happened before with any of their older games which I assume they have the same policy when it comes to closed internal test servers they run on an external and public system.
It looks like they're getting ready to implement the big crunch, it's a bit like the big bang but in reverse. Everything gets smaller and closer together, time goes back and things become more primitive, populations decrease faster and faster, until finally it all ends in extinction. However I'll take SOEs word for it and be satisfied with their explination, it's not like they'd lie about something this big then suddenly announce it with two weeks notice three months later!
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I don't want to give SOE credit for all of the sudden not being completely crazy but I don't think that they would consolidate servers with a forced transfer. If they did this they would likely lose at least a fourth of their players and accounts. I don't think they are going to try that again. The game maybe dead and they may never get any new customers but I think as long as they have enough players to make money and as long as LEC allows them to they will run SWG.
I think the servers are either some form of classic servers or more likely would be new servers that allow players a free transfer. Then once a server is empty they will announce the server is shutting down. This could be an expensive risk becuase it's possible that only a few players from each server would transfer thus making five more low population servers that they would have to run or risk pissing more players off. It's a lose-lose stituation. The only thing that could possibly be a positive for SOE would be classic servers but I don't see them doing it.
I don't claim to be right, I'm just posting.
this at the same time as the LA/bioware news? i think not. something is going on.
and now this news......
http://www.lucasartsbioware.com/
Because BioWare IS MAKING A STAR WARS MMORPG!
How many gawd damn times do we have to tell you people?
Well, the station launcher is in beta, and I know that when it imported my friends list from each server - it even picked up old names of characters I deleted long ago.
So... /shrug
That is my thoughts or it could be renamed Japan servers or something. Dunno. Or maybe they are consolidating.
Very interesting....
Still, fun while it lasted.
Linna
Yeah, well two years ago Jabba's palace mysteriously vanished, and SOE said it was just a glitch.
Turns out it vanished to be rebuilt for the Legacy quest. Part of the NGE.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
Once a denizen of Ahazi
Linna
Yeah, well two years ago Jabba's palace mysteriously vanished, and SOE said it was just a glitch.
Turns out it vanished to be rebuilt for the Legacy quest. Part of the NGE.
LOL I remember this, I drove out there to contact the privateer pilot guy and I drove around wondering where the hell Jabba's palace is on the POI waypoint and I even said it on ventrilo and nobody believed me. And this was during mid-life of the CU, not the NGE.
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