lol imo, d2 is lack of content as well. (only 5 acts) o ya, and everyone rushes through in multiplayer online so no one gives jack about its content. it's the addictive gameplay that keeps it alive.
if i want to care about content i would rather play single player, but i wont cuz i dont want to make a lvl80 character in a month where i can do it in 2 days on multiplayers.
So far I have seen more than 10 reviews, including PCGamer, none of which were very favorable. The problem with this game is that because the free play has so many restrictions and the almost complete lack of content, the subscription fee income will be very short lived. For the game to succeed they need to drop subscription like a hot potato, maybe add a in a game shop for extra items. This game will be dead in 6 months with no changes if not sooner. Bet the guys at Blizzard are laughing their asses off this lame attempt to clone Diablo. Shame on you Bill Roper, we expected much better of you.
No, I bet Blizzard is still upset about losing all of the talent that was at Blizzard North. We aren't talking about some guys leaving Blizzard who just worked there. We are talking about the founders and developers from Condor games who invented the whole idea of Diablo. These aren't just some people, these are the backbone behind Diablo.
I bet Blizzard never makes another Diablo game. (EVER)
They do not need to drop their subscription system and the game doesn't have a complete lack of content.
This game is in a better state then Diablo 2 was when it lauched. I bet most of these players comparing HGL to D2 weren't even around when Diablo 2 launched. It isn't anywhere near the same game that it was at first. Blizzard patched the game a ton in order to get it to the state it is in.
Flagship will do the same to HGL. People just didn't care that much back then, now a days people get upset over a game needing extra stuff added to it. Back when Diablo 2 was made people were just happy to get extra stuff added to the game.
Anyone claiming doom and gloom for Hellgate will be eating a lot of humble pie come 6 months from now and the game is still going extremely strong!
Currently playing: LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too: Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
People might have listened a little more to the point you were making if you didn't compare Hellgate to the Most Overhyped and yet crappiest MMO ever to be released.
Hah no, that's WoW.
Okay now it is obvious that you are nothing but a Troll.
People might have listened a little more to the point you were making if you didn't compare Hellgate to the Most Overhyped and yet crappiest MMO ever to be released.
Hah no, that's WoW.
Okay now it is obvious that you are nothing but a Troll.
We are both then.
No, I would be a troll if I was over in the Vanguard forums saying what a bad game it was. Instead I am over here correcting some of your misinformation and implication.
Currently playing: LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too: Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
People might have listened a little more to the point you were making if you didn't compare Hellgate to the Most Overhyped and yet crappiest MMO ever to be released.
Hah no, that's WoW.
Okay now it is obvious that you are nothing but a Troll.
We are both then.
No, I would be a troll if I was over in the Vanguard forums saying what a bad game it was. Instead I am over here correcting some of your misinformation and implication.
No, I would be a troll if I was over in the Vanguard forums saying what a bad game it was. Instead I am over here correcting some of your misinformation and implication.
Ok thank you for enlightening me with the proper information about Vanguard. Now I know it's the most overhyper yet crappiest MMO ever released. I naivly thought it's a nice playable for a small community, because of the appeal to minor community. But now I see when you opened my eyes how wrong I was. I am cancelling subscribtion to VG right now.
Why are you even on the Hellgate London forums talking about Vanguard? They have their own forum you know right?
If you enjoy Vanguard then go and enjoy it. More power to you but the vast majority of the MMO population did not enjoy it and consider it to be the model of a MMO failure. It is the example of everything done wrong that you can do wrong while making an MMO. Hopefully SOE can fix it like they fixed up EQ2 and then it can find it's small niche of the market.
But comparing Vanguard to Hellgate London is ridiculous. Hellgate had 1/10 of the hype that Vanguard had. Vanguard was being hyped like crazy by the Bradfans. The only game that can come close to the level of infatuation and hype that Vanguard had is Darkfall.
Currently playing: LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too: Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
I did love the reviews mentioning repetitive combat in Hellgate. I wonder if HL2, TF2, QW, et all had repetetive combat brought up in their respective reviews?
rofl, please dude. How can the retarded zerging of brainless monsters be compared to playing against REAL PEOPLE. Even the computer A.I in HF2, Fear..etc and various fps games are so much better than yr hellgate london.
And you know what. Real gamers want a great story to go with their awesome game. Good for you, if u like mashing yr left button with yr brain inside the closet.
I did love the reviews mentioning repetitive combat in Hellgate. I wonder if HL2, TF2, QW, et all had repetetive combat brought up in their respective reviews?
rofl, please dude. How can the retarded zerging of brainless monsters be compared to playing against REAL PEOPLE. Even the computer A.I in HF2, Fear..etc is so much better than yr hellgate london.
And you know what. Real gamers want a great story to go with their awesome game. Good for you, if u like mashing yr left button with yr brain inside the closet.
try harder.
Okay, I understand shortening ROFL but why would anyone shorten your to yr? That makes no sense what so ever. It barely saves any key strokes at all.
Oh well, I will never get used to this new age of texting shorthand. It comes off very silly to me but I guess I have gotten old.
Currently playing: LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too: Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
This game is better than Sliverfall, Two Worlds, Loki, Dawn of Magic, and all the other RPGs that had potential this year. This is the one of the few RPGs that has come out to this year that is fun!
No, the MMO side of it isn't worth 9.99 or even 2.99 a month. I will give you that.
I did love the reviews mentioning repetitive combat in Hellgate. I wonder if HL2, TF2, QW, et all had repetetive combat brought up in their respective reviews?
rofl, please dude. How can the retarded zerging of brainless monsters be compared to playing against REAL PEOPLE. Even the computer A.I in HF2, Fear..etc and various fps games are so much better than yr hellgate london.
And you know what. Real gamers want a great story to go with their awesome game. Good for you, if u like mashing yr left button with yr brain inside the closet.
This game is better than Sliverfall, Two Worlds, Loki, Dawn of Magic, and all the other RPGs that had potential this year. This is the one of the few RPGs that has come out to this year that is fun!
No, the MMO side of it isn't worth 9.99 or even 2.99 a month. I will give you that.
Not worth the money of a subs but its the only game out which ive stuck to till something else comes out like maybe potbs or something.
I did love the reviews mentioning repetitive combat in Hellgate. I wonder if HL2, TF2, QW, et all had repetetive combat brought up in their respective reviews?
rofl, please dude. How can the retarded zerging of brainless monsters be compared to playing against REAL PEOPLE. Even the computer A.I in HF2, Fear..etc and various fps games are so much better than yr hellgate london.
And you know what. Real gamers want a great story to go with their awesome game. Good for you, if u like mashing yr left button with yr brain inside the closet.
have to admit that this game really isnt for hardcore player imo u will get bored if u play it all the time but as a casual gamer might be the game for u.
I got this game the day it came out, and I gotta say that I haven't been this addicted to a game in a LONG time. I didn't stop playing all weekend.
Yeah, it's mindless and repetitive. What, Diablo 2 was a bastion of storytelling? No, there was zero story in that game.
I think the main reason for the bad reviews is the attitude of the times. People want games with deep story and a lot of depth - which is great, I loved Bioshock, HL2, Etc... but for what this game is - for what it is supposed to be - I think it's fantastic. Swarms of giant monsters, constant action, great skill trees, many ways to develop your character... There are some bugs and glitches, and I'm not sure if I'll subscribe, but I'd give it about an 8.0.
It is too easy, but I'm rushing through multiplayer right now and just trying skills out so that when I play it on Elite - which I hear is extremely difficult - I'll have that ultimate summoner build that can actually make it through the game again. And if they add enough new content, sure I'll subscribe. Gonna wait until december at least, though.
So far I have seen more than 10 reviews, including PCGamer, none of which were very favorable. The problem with this game is that because the free play has so many restrictions and the almost complete lack of content, the subscription fee income will be very short lived. For the game to succeed they need to drop subscription like a hot potato, maybe add a in a game shop for extra items. This game will be dead in 6 months with no changes if not sooner. Bet the guys at Blizzard are laughing their asses off this lame attempt to clone Diablo. Shame on you Bill Roper, we expected much better of you.
No, I bet Blizzard is still upset about losing all of the talent that was at Blizzard North. We aren't talking about some guys leaving Blizzard who just worked there. We are talking about the founders and developers from Condor games who invented the whole idea of Diablo. These aren't just some people, these are the backbone behind Diablo.
I bet Blizzard never makes another Diablo game. (EVER)
They do not need to drop their subscription system and the game doesn't have a complete lack of content.
This game is in a better state then Diablo 2 was when it lauched. I bet most of these players comparing HGL to D2 weren't even around when Diablo 2 launched. It isn't anywhere near the same game that it was at first. Blizzard patched the game a ton in order to get it to the state it is in.
Flagship will do the same to HGL. People just didn't care that much back then, now a days people get upset over a game needing extra stuff added to it. Back when Diablo 2 was made people were just happy to get extra stuff added to the game.
Anyone claiming doom and gloom for Hellgate will be eating a lot of humble pie come 6 months from now and the game is still going extremely strong!
Originally posted by Cetra Originally posted by Coldmeat If I want story, I'll read a book, thank you.
I did love the reviews mentioning repetitive combat in Hellgate. I wonder if HL2, TF2, QW, et all had repetetive combat brought up in their respective reviews?
rofl, please dude. How can the retarded zerging of brainless monsters be compared to playing against REAL PEOPLE. Even the computer A.I in HF2, Fear..etc and various fps games are so much better than yr hellgate london. And you know what. Real gamers want a great story to go with their awesome game. Good for you, if u like mashing yr left button with yr brain inside the closet. try harder.
Reading comprehension is not as hard as you may think.
Let me make it simple for you...
In HG:L, you have your selection of weaponry to use. You click, or hold the mouse button down, and generally run about trying to hit the mobs while not being hit. There are, of course the skills which you can use to augment your running around, and hitting mobs while not being hit yourself. Also, pets. And the RTS mission in Act 2. However, at it's basic core is essentially the same run and gun gameplay that is found in any other FPS by and large.
Hell, Portal is probably the most fun I've had with an FPS in forever, and even as original, fun, and just damned awesome the gameplay was, there's really only what, a handfull of things you can do with the portal gun?
See, this has exactly... Wait for it... ZERO to do with whether you're playing against the AI, or another player. The game mechanics remain the same. And they are, in fact, repetetive, as there is only so much you can do with the available weaponry. Therefore, decrying HG:L for having repetetive gameplay, but not leveling the same accusation against HL2, TF2, or any other FPS is disingenous at best.
As for accusing someone of having their brain in the closet, you should probably write out complete words before questioning anyone elses intelligence.
Originally posted by Coldmeat If I want story, I'll read a book, thank you.
I did love the reviews mentioning repetitive combat in Hellgate. I wonder if HL2, TF2, QW, et all had repetetive combat brought up in their respective reviews?
rofl, please dude. How can the retarded zerging of brainless monsters be compared to playing against REAL PEOPLE. Even the computer A.I in HF2, Fear..etc and various fps games are so much better than yr hellgate london.
And you know what. Real gamers want a great story to go with their awesome game. Good for you, if u like mashing yr left button with yr brain inside the closet.
try harder.
Reading comprehension is not as hard as you may think.
Let me make it simple for you...
In HG:L, you have your selection of weaponry to use. You click, or hold the mouse button down, and generally run about trying to hit the mobs while not being hit. There are, of course the skills which you can use to augment your running around, and hitting mobs while not being hit yourself. Also, pets. And the RTS mission in Act 2. However, at it's basic core is essentially the same run and gun gameplay that is found in any other FPS by and large.
Hell, Portal is probably the most fun I've had with an FPS in forever, and even as original, fun, and just damned awesome the gameplay was, there's really only what, a handfull of things you can do with the portal gun?
See, this has exactly... Wait for it... ZERO to do with whether you're playing against the AI, or another player. The game mechanics remain the same. And they are, in fact, repetetive, as there is only so much you can do with the available weaponry. Therefore, decrying HG:L for having repetetive gameplay, but not leveling the same accusation against HL2, TF2, or any other FPS is disingenous at best.
As for accusing someone of having their brain in the closet, you should probably write out complete words before questioning anyone elses intelligence.
Let ME make this simpler for YOU since you seem to have terrible overall reading skills yourself. You seem to have failed to answer the following quoted question with your stupid portal gun analogy:
"rofl, please dude. How can the retarded zerging of brainless monsters be compared to playing against REAL PEOPLE"
The argument is not what you can do with different weapons. It's actually what you can do when playing VS players compared to playing VS NPCs, in which your retarded and blatant portal gun analogy fails. The feature of being able to combat with AND against other players creates a highly dynamic environment unlike smashing through 130 AI zombies.
As for flaming the quoted poster's word-abilities, I suggest you check your own vocabulary and don't use big words that you can't even spell right, Mr. Disingenuous.
But comparing Vanguard to Hellgate London is ridiculous. Hellgate had 1/10 of the hype that Vanguard had. Vanguard was being hyped like crazy by the Bradfans. The only game that can come close to the level of infatuation and hype that Vanguard had is Darkfall.
I've never seen Vanguard discussed outside these forums. Not once. I've never seen it advertised anywhere either. Not even a review. They sent me a free copy on launch day, I've never even opened the package, let alone the box.
Hellgate on the other hand I've been reading about and discussing and watching previews and trailers for the last two years. This and Quake Wars have been the biggest titles on my Hypometer for 2007.
But comparing Vanguard to Hellgate London is ridiculous. Hellgate had 1/10 of the hype that Vanguard had. Vanguard was being hyped like crazy by the Bradfans. The only game that can come close to the level of infatuation and hype that Vanguard had is Darkfall.
I've never seen Vanguard discussed outside these forums. Not once. I've never seen it advertised anywhere either. Not even a review. They sent me a free copy on launch day, I've never even opened the package, let alone the box.
Hellgate on the other hand I've been reading about and discussing and watching previews and trailers for the last two years. This and Quake Wars have been the biggest titles on my Hypometer for 2007.
I agree. Most people who played EQ didn't even know about Vanguard. I think you guys are giving Brad too much credit as a game designer. I didn't even know who McQuaid was when I played EQ until I heard about vanguard fromt hese forumns.
But comparing Vanguard to Hellgate London is ridiculous. Hellgate had 1/10 of the hype that Vanguard had. Vanguard was being hyped like crazy by the Bradfans. The only game that can come close to the level of infatuation and hype that Vanguard had is Darkfall.
I've never seen Vanguard discussed outside these forums. Not once. I've never seen it advertised anywhere either. Not even a review. They sent me a free copy on launch day, I've never even opened the package, let alone the box.
Hellgate on the other hand I've been reading about and discussing and watching previews and trailers for the last two years. This and Quake Wars have been the biggest titles on my Hypometer for 2007.
You guys must of lived under a rock then. Vanguard was hyped on every MMO related site for years. It was hyped in PC Gamer.
Currently playing: LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too: Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't all MMO's hyped on all the MMO sites and aren't all PC games featured in PC gamer. Not really my idea of hype that. A games company making an MMO PC would actively have had to try quite hard to keep themselves out of those places.
This game is better than Sliverfall, TwoWorlds, Loki, DawnofMagic, and all the other RPGs that had potential this year. This is the one of the few RPGs that has come out to this year that is fun! Being at the top of the turd pile doesn't make it any less of a turd, just a shinier brown. TheWitcher makes Hellgate look like RPGMaker2000.
This game is better than Sliverfall, TwoWorlds, Loki, DawnofMagic, and all the other RPGs that had potential this year. This is the one of the few RPGs that has come out to this year that is fun! Being at the top of the turd pile doesn't make it any less of a turd, just a shinier brown. TheWitcher makes Hellgate look like RPGMaker2000.
I had hope hellgate would be interesting. But the fact that all the reviews had a lot of problems made me not have any hopes for the game. I'm going to try it (ahem), and see if it's worth purchasing, but my skeptic-ometer seems to be going off the charts with this game. I mean fury is fairly repettive but at least it would be interesting to play (due to contests, etc). I don't trust any of the positive reviews because they are from sites that are known to be able to be paid off to write positive reviews (many of those exist)....I understand the idea (you don't want people to call your game crap), but that doesn't make it any less crap.
Usually quality of beta is a good indication of a game's potential. Even games like world of warcraft and their beautiful artwork style are beginning to show in other games (zu online...crappy leveling grind game but the art is just plain well done). Usually by the end of a beta people don't have complaints of the million things going wrong, its usually really small nitpicky things. That was not the case with HGL.
Hellgate's true good point is that it represents a shift towards the fact that charging a subscription fee doesn't make a game good or successful, nor is it a magical "good idea".. The part they missed was crippling non-subscription chars. If all you paid for was multiplay and nothing else (content still added), people would stick with the game maybe even when expansion comes. More and more games are going to shift away from subscription model and give people a real reason to pay, or are going to go out of business. Guild wars as an easy example of an alternative, as well as enabling methods for people to help host the game using their connection (or one person hosting for a group/etc).
-D
/edit: Witcher seems cool. That does indeed have my interest as a good oblivion style game.
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lol imo, d2 is lack of content as well. (only 5 acts) o ya, and everyone rushes through in multiplayer online so no one gives jack about its content. it's the addictive gameplay that keeps it alive.
if i want to care about content i would rather play single player, but i wont cuz i dont want to make a lvl80 character in a month where i can do it in 2 days on multiplayers.
I bet Blizzard never makes another Diablo game. (EVER)
They do not need to drop their subscription system and the game doesn't have a complete lack of content.
This game is in a better state then Diablo 2 was when it lauched. I bet most of these players comparing HGL to D2 weren't even around when Diablo 2 launched. It isn't anywhere near the same game that it was at first. Blizzard patched the game a ton in order to get it to the state it is in.
Flagship will do the same to HGL. People just didn't care that much back then, now a days people get upset over a game needing extra stuff added to it. Back when Diablo 2 was made people were just happy to get extra stuff added to the game.
Anyone claiming doom and gloom for Hellgate will be eating a lot of humble pie come 6 months from now and the game is still going extremely strong!
Currently playing:
LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too:
Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
REALITY CHECK
Hah no, that's WoW.
Okay now it is obvious that you are nothing but a Troll.
We are both then.
No, I would be a troll if I was over in the Vanguard forums saying what a bad game it was. Instead I am over here correcting some of your misinformation and implication.
Currently playing:
LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too:
Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
Hah no, that's WoW.
Okay now it is obvious that you are nothing but a Troll.
We are both then.
No, I would be a troll if I was over in the Vanguard forums saying what a bad game it was. Instead I am over here correcting some of your misinformation and implication.
Hah your post made me laugh out loud.
REALITY CHECK
Doubt it. This game is going the route of Resident Evil: Outbreak.
It won't be going strong on my computer in six months time.
About 6 days is closer.
Why are you even on the Hellgate London forums talking about Vanguard? They have their own forum you know right?If you enjoy Vanguard then go and enjoy it. More power to you but the vast majority of the MMO population did not enjoy it and consider it to be the model of a MMO failure. It is the example of everything done wrong that you can do wrong while making an MMO. Hopefully SOE can fix it like they fixed up EQ2 and then it can find it's small niche of the market.
But comparing Vanguard to Hellgate London is ridiculous. Hellgate had 1/10 of the hype that Vanguard had. Vanguard was being hyped like crazy by the Bradfans. The only game that can come close to the level of infatuation and hype that Vanguard had is Darkfall.
Currently playing:
LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too:
Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
rofl, please dude. How can the retarded zerging of brainless monsters be compared to playing against REAL PEOPLE. Even the computer A.I in HF2, Fear..etc and various fps games are so much better than yr hellgate london.
And you know what. Real gamers want a great story to go with their awesome game. Good for you, if u like mashing yr left button with yr brain inside the closet.
try harder.
rofl, please dude. How can the retarded zerging of brainless monsters be compared to playing against REAL PEOPLE. Even the computer A.I in HF2, Fear..etc is so much better than yr hellgate london.
And you know what. Real gamers want a great story to go with their awesome game. Good for you, if u like mashing yr left button with yr brain inside the closet.
try harder.
Okay, I understand shortening ROFL but why would anyone shorten your to yr? That makes no sense what so ever. It barely saves any key strokes at all.Oh well, I will never get used to this new age of texting shorthand. It comes off very silly to me but I guess I have gotten old.
Currently playing:
LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too:
Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
6.6?? Bollocks!
This game is better than Sliverfall, Two Worlds, Loki, Dawn of Magic, and all the other RPGs that had potential this year. This is the one of the few RPGs that has come out to this year that is fun!
No, the MMO side of it isn't worth 9.99 or even 2.99 a month. I will give you that.
rofl, please dude. How can the retarded zerging of brainless monsters be compared to playing against REAL PEOPLE. Even the computer A.I in HF2, Fear..etc and various fps games are so much better than yr hellgate london.
And you know what. Real gamers want a great story to go with their awesome game. Good for you, if u like mashing yr left button with yr brain inside the closet.
try harder.
Well a zombie is braindead isnt it?
Not worth the money of a subs but its the only game out which ive stuck to till something else comes out like maybe potbs or something.
rofl, please dude. How can the retarded zerging of brainless monsters be compared to playing against REAL PEOPLE. Even the computer A.I in HF2, Fear..etc and various fps games are so much better than yr hellgate london.
And you know what. Real gamers want a great story to go with their awesome game. Good for you, if u like mashing yr left button with yr brain inside the closet.
try harder.
Well a zombie is braindead isnt it?
That's what preliminary testing shows.
have to admit that this game really isnt for hardcore player imo u will get bored if u play it all the time but as a casual gamer might be the game for u.
I got this game the day it came out, and I gotta say that I haven't been this addicted to a game in a LONG time. I didn't stop playing all weekend.
Yeah, it's mindless and repetitive. What, Diablo 2 was a bastion of storytelling? No, there was zero story in that game.
I think the main reason for the bad reviews is the attitude of the times. People want games with deep story and a lot of depth - which is great, I loved Bioshock, HL2, Etc... but for what this game is - for what it is supposed to be - I think it's fantastic. Swarms of giant monsters, constant action, great skill trees, many ways to develop your character... There are some bugs and glitches, and I'm not sure if I'll subscribe, but I'd give it about an 8.0.
It is too easy, but I'm rushing through multiplayer right now and just trying skills out so that when I play it on Elite - which I hear is extremely difficult - I'll have that ultimate summoner build that can actually make it through the game again. And if they add enough new content, sure I'll subscribe. Gonna wait until december at least, though.
well said * claps* 
No, I bet Blizzard is still upset about losing all of the talent that was at Blizzard North. We aren't talking about some guys leaving Blizzard who just worked there. We are talking about the founders and developers from Condor games who invented the whole idea of Diablo. These aren't just some people, these are the backbone behind Diablo.I bet Blizzard never makes another Diablo game. (EVER)
They do not need to drop their subscription system and the game doesn't have a complete lack of content.
This game is in a better state then Diablo 2 was when it lauched. I bet most of these players comparing HGL to D2 weren't even around when Diablo 2 launched. It isn't anywhere near the same game that it was at first. Blizzard patched the game a ton in order to get it to the state it is in.
Flagship will do the same to HGL. People just didn't care that much back then, now a days people get upset over a game needing extra stuff added to it. Back when Diablo 2 was made people were just happy to get extra stuff added to the game.
Anyone claiming doom and gloom for Hellgate will be eating a lot of humble pie come 6 months from now and the game is still going extremely strong!
rofl, please dude. How can the retarded zerging of brainless monsters be compared to playing against REAL PEOPLE. Even the computer A.I in HF2, Fear..etc and various fps games are so much better than yr hellgate london.
And you know what. Real gamers want a great story to go with their awesome game. Good for you, if u like mashing yr left button with yr brain inside the closet.
try harder.
Reading comprehension is not as hard as you may think.
Let me make it simple for you...
In HG:L, you have your selection of weaponry to use. You click, or hold the mouse button down, and generally run about trying to hit the mobs while not being hit. There are, of course the skills which you can use to augment your running around, and hitting mobs while not being hit yourself. Also, pets. And the RTS mission in Act 2. However, at it's basic core is essentially the same run and gun gameplay that is found in any other FPS by and large.
Hell, Portal is probably the most fun I've had with an FPS in forever, and even as original, fun, and just damned awesome the gameplay was, there's really only what, a handfull of things you can do with the portal gun?
See, this has exactly... Wait for it... ZERO to do with whether you're playing against the AI, or another player. The game mechanics remain the same. And they are, in fact, repetetive, as there is only so much you can do with the available weaponry. Therefore, decrying HG:L for having repetetive gameplay, but not leveling the same accusation against HL2, TF2, or any other FPS is disingenous at best.
As for accusing someone of having their brain in the closet, you should probably write out complete words before questioning anyone elses intelligence.
rofl, please dude. How can the retarded zerging of brainless monsters be compared to playing against REAL PEOPLE. Even the computer A.I in HF2, Fear..etc and various fps games are so much better than yr hellgate london.
And you know what. Real gamers want a great story to go with their awesome game. Good for you, if u like mashing yr left button with yr brain inside the closet.
try harder.
Reading comprehension is not as hard as you may think.
Let me make it simple for you...
In HG:L, you have your selection of weaponry to use. You click, or hold the mouse button down, and generally run about trying to hit the mobs while not being hit. There are, of course the skills which you can use to augment your running around, and hitting mobs while not being hit yourself. Also, pets. And the RTS mission in Act 2. However, at it's basic core is essentially the same run and gun gameplay that is found in any other FPS by and large.
Hell, Portal is probably the most fun I've had with an FPS in forever, and even as original, fun, and just damned awesome the gameplay was, there's really only what, a handfull of things you can do with the portal gun?
See, this has exactly... Wait for it... ZERO to do with whether you're playing against the AI, or another player. The game mechanics remain the same. And they are, in fact, repetetive, as there is only so much you can do with the available weaponry. Therefore, decrying HG:L for having repetetive gameplay, but not leveling the same accusation against HL2, TF2, or any other FPS is disingenous at best.
As for accusing someone of having their brain in the closet, you should probably write out complete words before questioning anyone elses intelligence.
Let ME make this simpler for YOU since you seem to have terrible overall reading skills yourself. You seem to have failed to answer the following quoted question with your stupid portal gun analogy:"rofl, please dude. How can the retarded zerging of brainless monsters be compared to playing against REAL PEOPLE"
The argument is not what you can do with different weapons. It's actually what you can do when playing VS players compared to playing VS NPCs, in which your retarded and blatant portal gun analogy fails. The feature of being able to combat with AND against other players creates a highly dynamic environment unlike smashing through 130 AI zombies.
As for flaming the quoted poster's word-abilities, I suggest you check your own vocabulary and don't use big words that you can't even spell right, Mr. Disingenuous.
Hellgate on the other hand I've been reading about and discussing and watching previews and trailers for the last two years. This and Quake Wars have been the biggest titles on my Hypometer for 2007.
Hellgate on the other hand I've been reading about and discussing and watching previews and trailers for the last two years. This and Quake Wars have been the biggest titles on my Hypometer for 2007.
I agree. Most people who played EQ didn't even know about Vanguard. I think you guys are giving Brad too much credit as a game designer. I didn't even know who McQuaid was when I played EQ until I heard about vanguard fromt hese forumns.
Hellgate on the other hand I've been reading about and discussing and watching previews and trailers for the last two years. This and Quake Wars have been the biggest titles on my Hypometer for 2007.
You guys must of lived under a rock then. Vanguard was hyped on every MMO related site for years. It was hyped in PC Gamer.
Currently playing:
LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too:
Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
This is the only MMO related site I visit.
I don't read PC gamer.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't all MMO's hyped on all the MMO sites and aren't all PC games featured in PC gamer. Not really my idea of hype that. A games company making an MMO PC would actively have had to try quite hard to keep themselves out of those places.
I had hope hellgate would be interesting. But the fact that all the reviews had a lot of problems made me not have any hopes for the game. I'm going to try it (ahem), and see if it's worth purchasing, but my skeptic-ometer seems to be going off the charts with this game. I mean fury is fairly repettive but at least it would be interesting to play (due to contests, etc). I don't trust any of the positive reviews because they are from sites that are known to be able to be paid off to write positive reviews (many of those exist)....I understand the idea (you don't want people to call your game crap), but that doesn't make it any less crap.
Usually quality of beta is a good indication of a game's potential. Even games like world of warcraft and their beautiful artwork style are beginning to show in other games (zu online...crappy leveling grind game but the art is just plain well done). Usually by the end of a beta people don't have complaints of the million things going wrong, its usually really small nitpicky things. That was not the case with HGL.
Hellgate's true good point is that it represents a shift towards the fact that charging a subscription fee doesn't make a game good or successful, nor is it a magical "good idea".. The part they missed was crippling non-subscription chars. If all you paid for was multiplay and nothing else (content still added), people would stick with the game maybe even when expansion comes. More and more games are going to shift away from subscription model and give people a real reason to pay, or are going to go out of business. Guild wars as an easy example of an alternative, as well as enabling methods for people to help host the game using their connection (or one person hosting for a group/etc).
-D
/edit: Witcher seems cool. That does indeed have my interest as a good oblivion style game.
/rant