Originally posted by ChrisMattern Originally posted by Twenty4k Somebody need to make a full pvp game like UO and Shadowbane. I am tired of WoW soft PvP system. I want to gank people and make there MMOs life horrible. I am tired of good vs evil games. Lets stop the factions and put all vs all.
UO and Shadowbane? You're such a pansy-ass. I say we bus the players out to an arena in Texas and make them fight no-holds-barred knife fights. That's REAL PvP!
Chris Mattern
How about Hobo fights while we're at it? place random boxes, push carts, oh and a plate of food in the middle for them to fight over?
Game A creates game with PvP in it at launch. A few years down the road they change the game and start messing with aspects of PvP people have become used to. Game enters a really slow downward spiral and never really recovers the original game concept and subscription numbers. People either leave or learn to live with it and whine the entire time.
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
Somebody need to make a full pvp game like UO and Shadowbane. I am tired of WoW soft PvP system. I want to gank people and make there MMOs life horrible. I am tired of good vs evil games. Lets stop the factions and put all vs all.
Then how come you are not playing Vanguard on the FFA server. There are no rules there. It is everyone for themselves if that is how you like to play. I have played on the FFA server and I can tell you that it is not for the meek. You will be killed repeatedly and with much prejudice in most cases. This will be you.
Oh and the best PvP game I played when it comes to MMORPG was Asheron's Call on the Darktide server. There was no place to hide...and your gear and your life were easily taken. It really was one of the toughest servers to play on - beacuse you could literally loose items and be killed so many times you'd might never recover to become a viable player again with that character.
fact is we're all screwed. I goto EBGames I dont see any MMOs I want to really buy. I'd take a good PVE MMO hell ya I would.
my christmas isn;t merry in regards to MMOs but it sure is merry for my xbox360 (mass effect, assassin's creed, etc) and my FPS christmas list is booming (COD,ut3, etc)
Originally posted by TealaOriginally posted by Twenty4k
Somebody need to make a full pvp game like UO and Shadowbane. I am tired of WoW soft PvP system. I want to gank people and make there MMOs life horrible. I am tired of good vs evil games. Lets stop the factions and put all vs all.
Then how come you are not playing Vanguard on the FFA server. There are no rules there. It is everyone for themselves if that is how you like to play. I have played on the FFA server and I can tell you that it is not for the meek. You will be killed repeatedly and with much prejudice in most cases. This will be you.
Oh and the best PvP game I played when it comes to MMORPG was Asheron's Call on the Darktide server. There was no place to hide...and your gear and your life were easily taken. It really was one of the toughest servers to play on - beacuse you could literally loose items and be killed so many times you'd might never recover to become a viable player again with that character.
Unfortunately Vanguard's FFA server is nothing but meaningless PVP - although I must admit, I did enjoy it much more than anything WOW offered, even in it's current state.
Unfortunately there is still no meaningful risk/reward in PVP, no real death penalty - as just like WOW, when you die you simply respawn and go on with whatever you were doing. You can't capture towns, and there is plenty of hacking going on, not to mention most fights are over before they even start.
But yeah, Darktide was great - best game I have ever played bar none.
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UO and Shadowbane? You're such a pansy-ass. I say we bus the players out to an arena in Texas and make them fight no-holds-barred knife fights. That's REAL PvP!
Chris Mattern
How about Hobo fights while we're at it? place random boxes, push carts, oh and a plate of food in the middle for them to fight over?
One main issue with PvP is this.
Game A creates game with PvP in it at launch. A few years down the road they change the game and start messing with aspects of PvP people have become used to. Game enters a really slow downward spiral and never really recovers the original game concept and subscription numbers. People either leave or learn to live with it and whine the entire time.
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
Then how come you are not playing Vanguard on the FFA server. There are no rules there. It is everyone for themselves if that is how you like to play. I have played on the FFA server and I can tell you that it is not for the meek. You will be killed repeatedly and with much prejudice in most cases. This will be you.
Oh and the best PvP game I played when it comes to MMORPG was Asheron's Call on the Darktide server. There was no place to hide...and your gear and your life were easily taken. It really was one of the toughest servers to play on - beacuse you could literally loose items and be killed so many times you'd might never recover to become a viable player again with that character.
fact is we're all screwed. I goto EBGames I dont see any MMOs I want to really buy. I'd take a good PVE MMO hell ya I would.
my christmas isn;t merry in regards to MMOs but it sure is merry for my xbox360 (mass effect, assassin's creed, etc) and my FPS christmas list is booming (COD,ut3, etc)
you guys need a reality check lol
Then how come you are not playing Vanguard on the FFA server. There are no rules there. It is everyone for themselves if that is how you like to play. I have played on the FFA server and I can tell you that it is not for the meek. You will be killed repeatedly and with much prejudice in most cases. This will be you.
Oh and the best PvP game I played when it comes to MMORPG was Asheron's Call on the Darktide server. There was no place to hide...and your gear and your life were easily taken. It really was one of the toughest servers to play on - beacuse you could literally loose items and be killed so many times you'd might never recover to become a viable player again with that character.
Unfortunately Vanguard's FFA server is nothing but meaningless PVP - although I must admit, I did enjoy it much more than anything WOW offered, even in it's current state.Unfortunately there is still no meaningful risk/reward in PVP, no real death penalty - as just like WOW, when you die you simply respawn and go on with whatever you were doing. You can't capture towns, and there is plenty of hacking going on, not to mention most fights are over before they even start.
But yeah, Darktide was great - best game I have ever played bar none.
What do you think about FULL PvP/all vs all?
That's kinda "old hat," dontcha think?
I personally like the idea of contributing to the success of a team effort. It's just really rewarding when you make a significant contribution to your team's victory. By that same token, it's also nice to know when you made a significant contribution in the face of defeat.
And don't tell me that MMORPGs don't have anything in common with FPS modes like deathmatch or CTF!