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EQ vs. WoW, Graphics vs. Gameplay I have a simple solution

gargantroogargantroo Member Posts: 1,477
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  • DaShizDaShiz Member Posts: 375

    I think one thread was enough.


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  • OracleP4OracleP4 Member Posts: 495
    Nah, WOW is all I need...

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  • kptonekptone Member Posts: 137
    For me EQ2 graphics are just stunning and better than WoW but thats because im not into the comic stuff but if u like Comic characters than WoW is ur game its all about what kind of things u like in a game. Ofcourse WoW will never be better than any EQ for the meer fact that EQ has had the experience and knows what ppl want this generation.

  • OracleP4OracleP4 Member Posts: 495
    SOE is outta touch.  Blizzard will give the gamers what they want! SOE will just publish some buggy unstable POS and the EQ2 fanboys will just eat it up no matter what.

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  • raptorfalconraptorfalcon Member Posts: 126
    Well, at least soes's updates will bring something more than.. Blizzard's go to the end of the world and bring me some crappy stuff.."
  • tu_uilwentu_uilwen Member Posts: 794

    why does everyone get this idea that WoW's graphics are cartoonie and comicy...and stuff like that......

    maybe if every one took the time to look and actually play WC3 or atleast see some screen shots.......

    cause the graphics that are in WoW are the graphics that everything looked like in WC3 and Frozen throne......

    So blizzard is staying tradition with the graphics.....and keeping it with the franchise......

    now see its ok for EQ2 to have better graphics due to the fact that this is gonna be there what third MMO and the first EQ is in line for the whole upgrade like that with better gameplay ( which I love the way EQ plays) and better graphics............

    So please just because EQ2 has better graphics......that does not mean WoW has the so called " Worse graphics" and "cartoon or comic graphics" I mean in some peoples view....EQ2 gaphics are ugly and WoW is better in the graphic department.........

    Personally I like the graphics blizz is offering with WoW....and I like the graphics SoE is offering with EQ2.....so that is why I do not flame either game.......and that is why I will play both of them......beucase I know both games have alot to offer....as far as quests....gameplay....story line...graphics.....and gaming content........


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  • CrestguardCrestguard Member Posts: 112

    I don't usually say anything negative towards WoW because it'd be preaching to the choir, everyone here looks at threads related to EQ2 because we are looking forward to it, so of course a majority of us will be biased.  But damn it all for Oracle, who can't stay on his own board.  So to him, and all the ones like him, I say that Blizzard will drive WoW off course and into a brick wall, just like they did to Ghost.  Ghost was going to be a sick game, but when they took control, they ruined the graphics, they ruined the gameplay and made it a big stinking pile of poopy.

  • GaurdianKingGaurdianKing Member Posts: 338

    LOL, tu_uilwen , people are referenceing the grafics of wow to cartoons because that is the style of the game. The cinima images are done relisticly but the game itself is a bright flash. Umm come to think of it you kind of right, I see completely where you comeing form but it is hard to explain. The images are not cartoon link more of a coror texture thing. I guess it has something to do with the story and images they put out before that really explain why they went with that style.

    Ow yea Crestguard, your right, however the same could be said about the people who invaded the wow board. Also We kind of had this discusion in our board in 3 different threads. So feal releaved it was only one. As for anticipating the games, I am very much so. 

    p.s NilParagon sounds like my kind of guy. I read one of his previous posts and his arguments are well stated and we his argument is generally well structured. 


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  • rpgownagerpgownage Member Posts: 48
    type much?

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  • kptonekptone Member Posts: 137
    Ill tell u this for the meer i can see what kind of ppl are gonna play WoW just sickens me to know that blizzards Target Market is the little children of age of 15 lol which is pathetic. Eq2 will bring everything that eq1 had and plus it wont be buggy and it will also bring everything that u guys still havent seen about what a MMOPRG is supposed to look like.image

  • rathmarathma Member UncommonPosts: 3,786

     So pay 100 bucks for both games and pay 30 dollars for monthly fees?

     That's a waste of money. Especially because 1 MMORPG is time consuming enough let alone 2.

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  • kptonekptone Member Posts: 137

    Thats true 1 mmorpg is enough time consuming. I play EQ for like 12 hours a day and the other time i work and eat and etc . lol tell me if thats not time consuming. PLUS WoW will never be better than EQ or EQ2 in any way if ur a real gamer thats a no brainer for u, but if u dont want to admit it than u can live with being wrong and die wrong.

  • GaurdianKingGaurdianKing Member Posts: 338

    I suddenly want to shame kptone emensly. I am sorry for my english. Your argument for eq2 was what, it is better because it is a eq2 clone, in what way, all mmorpg games follow the standard system of game mechanics, after all it does fall under the games recognised as mmorpg. Not only that, but wow actaully offered more game detail and gameplay than eq. As for eq2, there is'nt any beta testing going on for it at the moment aso I asume you last few statments were from your opinion which where born from ignorance and stupidity. I have not actaully said anything bad about eq2 and you putting wow down ticks me off. I came here to read what was so good about eq2 not to start an arguement or read people insult a game I highly antisipate. And for you information, do you have a link of what the target audience is, your bullshit about 15 years olds fuels my rage more. Please od not make crase statments that oviously ar'nt true as there is not real market in mmorpg as it is not possible for them to pay the bill as they have no credit card or any other form of electronic money transfer system.

    You wana argue, lets go. I am well up for an arguement with someone who does not know his shit because, well quiet frankly I enjoy shameing the crap out of them when they are wrong. Just my personal way of filtering out people who don't know shit but talk the big talk when they have no evidence.

    IU advice you to go the guild war and wow forum and take alook at my handy work and see how throughtly scretinize my opponent in every factor.


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  • SauronSauron Member Posts: 4

    Games never live up there hype...for example: Horizons, SWG, Shadowbane, Lineage 2. Sure this game looks fun...and sure graphics are impressive...but people are to busy thinking of the pros then the cons...This game has great graphics but possibly ALOT OF LAG. A friend of mine has an AREA-51 computer and lags in Lineage2 one of the main reasons people played this game is because of its graphics.

    This game looks like it has a great gameplay...with all the nice armor, cool weapons ETC...but what if these weapons cost like 99999999 sure im exaggerating but what if they did...there was a breakdown in economy in EQ1 if I remember. I quit though but another friend of mine who still plays eq1 says there still is...Again im using Lineage 2 as an example...1-2weeks after Launch I see on Mysupersales.com and see 2mil adena selling for 219$ which people buy (dumasses)

    All of this can be said the same with WoW. Besides the bigger the hype the bigger the let down if the game is a flop. My strategy is to wait 2 weeks after launch and see what people are saying about the game heh heh I did this with Lineage 2 and Horizons saved my ass 100$

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  • kptonekptone Member Posts: 137

    Really lagg doesnt depend on ur WHOLE computer or what kind of computer u have. IM sure the Alienware are good computers but they are overpriced. Maybe ur friend needs to get some good memory and a nice video card and believe it wont lagg anymore.

  • GaurdianKingGaurdianKing Member Posts: 338

    Umm.. Make sure you know the difference, it is'nt lag when the hardware is the problem. Lag is caused because of the connectivity with the server is not good enought and it takes to long for the information to get back and forth. But then again what you are decribing is fps (frames per second). This is because the frame rate drops because the hardware can't keep up. As for that, I have heard many things about it and I simply direct them to the games requirment page, 64bit grafics card. If he does not have that, he has real problems, not just the game but the fact he needs a updated grafics card anyway.

    P.s I asume the requirments will allow the game to run but I don't know the qaulity of the game at that level. But like I said you can only speculate when there are no real testers out there. The Beta has not started so I don't know why we are talking about this.

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  • gargantroogargantroo Member Posts: 1,477

    Wow... a simple suggestion about WoW and EQ2 and everyone freaks out.

    Honestly, you guys need to get a life. I expected good replies from the EQ2 peoples, but I seemed to only get them from the WoW peoples. I guess when they say B-Net has whiners, they havent seen these boards

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  • jubbincakejubbincake Member Posts: 134

    -These conversations are starting to piss me off. They are the same thing over and over again!

    -EQGEEK- WoW is only going to pull in 13-15 year olds. While our game will have more mature gamers. I'm thirsty and i still liv ein my moms basement!

     

    -Blizzardfanboy- EQ2 has good graphics, but it will just be buggie like EQ1. Wow is going to be L33T!

    I mean, holy crap you guys! Some people say that blizzard is sticking with their traditional graphics. I don't believe this, those graphics suck, and in my opinion probably take alot less time to produce then for say EQ2 for example. It's stupid to judge a game and say wich one is going to bebest before they are even out! Unless you have played highly developed models of both. Sure Blizzard is advertising to kids at 15, have you ever wondered why? These kids play diablo 2, and warcraft. It's easy to grab their attention with that little bar on top of the page.

    When people say EQ2 will be buggie like EQ, its like saying. "Your brother was a stupid drunk, you must be one too." Is that really how it is like, NO. But, then again. All these 30 year olds say that WoW is lacking graphically, sure. But, it's meant for fast paced players. PRIMARILY kids, and most kids dont have the best of computers. So they dimmed it down a bit so alot of computers can actually play!

    Oh yea, and your friend that "lagged" on an area 51 is a jackass. He has something wrong, those computers are plenty fast so tell him to quit his whining. And im going to tell all of you EQgeeks and WoWfanboys to shut the hell up about this!

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  • GaurdianKingGaurdianKing Member Posts: 338

    jubbincake okay I swear I am going to be nice about this. Okay, how many 15 year olds have a cretit card, please if you are 15 or lower and have a cretit card please raise your hand. That is one point I like to make. Parent generally don't allow there kids to play mmorpg's anyway, that is where the free games come in.

    Next point is that have you actaully read the faq and the target age is because you clearly haven't. As for being a kid and so on, I have met many (humm...) horrible adults while playing mmorpg and they generally are worst as they will be vindictive and very cruel just because they are pissed off. As for Kids, um.. they do get annoying in large amount but so far I have talked to adults over 24 here and you have yet to give me any real argument to actaully attack or have made a mature arguementative and will structured attack on wow. All you do on you high horse is talk about kid or how you hate newbies to the game. Be a little compassionate please.

    As for the main issue, there will just as many kids in eq2 as there are wow. The grafics maybe more pleaseing to 15 year olds but lets face it, the grafics for eq2 can also attract kids for there realism.

    As for most kids haveing the best computers and so on. The requirments for the eq2 game is not much different from wow and the grafics card spec are the same, this is because of the detailed engins used in wow and not in eq2. You don't see your breath i cold weather or see your makes on trees as you walk by in eq2 but you do in wow. However eq12 has had to give that up for the astonding realism they put into there models (top marls for that but personal opinion is biased as I like the anime style to the characters in wow).

    Simply because people real get on my nevers about  were is your proof and so on I will post the links and so on, but I know no ones going to use them.

    http://everquest2.station.sony.com/faq.vm#System%20Requirements

    http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/readme.html#SystemRequirements

    p.s my second slowest computer can run both games, my slowest computer can tun wow but they use the dame nividia grafics card.

    So as a closeing statment you are out right wrong, you have made valid point however thows points ar'nt the only reson why that happens. They are the tip of the ice burge and you did'nt even touch it. And no one can stat techniqaule problems as the game has not even in it's beta test phase yet. Also people, you have not payed the games, don't start talking are stating information as it is clad proof fact, you want facts, read statistics reports and company diologe or road maps.

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  • CrestguardCrestguard Member Posts: 112
    I had a credit card when I was 13.  Whats your point?  If you don't have your own credit card to use, your parents will almost definately lend you theres for signing up to the game.  Thats not the problem, its that it's not rated mature so the damn kids can buy it on their own... but even then it wouldn't work.  They should start taking SSN's, that'd be beter heh.
  • rpgownagerpgownage Member Posts: 48



    Originally posted by gargantroo

    Wow... a simple suggestion about WoW and EQ2 and everyone freaks out.
    Honestly, you guys need to get a life. I expected good replies from the EQ2 peoples, but I seemed to only get them from the WoW peoples. I guess when they say B-Net has whiners, they havent seen these boards
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    That is the most ignorant thing ever.. Excuse me but have you played WC3? They seem to have the most assholes in the world. And maybe these assholes dont go to these boards. EQ has nowhere near as many annoying idiots as people in blizzard, i havent seen someone mean yet.. Infact someone gave me free items yesterday in EQ. Maybe the EQ morons go to these boards for some reason. But just because someone 'follows' WoW doesnt mean they played wc3, tft etc.

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  • rathmarathma Member UncommonPosts: 3,786
     Yes WC3 was horrid. Just a bunch of 10 year old nerds who use their hacks to "beat you" hehehe.

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  • GaurdianKingGaurdianKing Member Posts: 338

    LOL, number one, you are legally not allowed to have a credit card until you 18 in England, and even then you will only be allowed a debit card when you are 16. I will have to check the Americian law books for that one but I will assume for now it is the same. As for the general point, I made it in the last post and restating it to you. As for the target range, look at the wow board and look at the ages of everyone that is waiting for the game. Does it look like they are 15 and below, most of them ar 17 and above. As for the adult rateing of the game, are you kidding me, stores never check, not even up tight merrey old england here we don't even pay attention to games age rateing. Plus, in Ammeric you get away with buying games or alcahole even thow your under age.

    So I would ask you to please re avaluate what you have just said. They are very weak stand points to base you argument on. The only thing and preconception you have of the game is that it's for kids. I asume all the transformer lovers in your contry are kids as well, or the comic book readers are kids as well. I would also assume all the marval lovers are imature children. Please reavalaute as most largest market in the marvel industries arte not kids but teens and people that are over the age of 16.

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  • GaurdianKingGaurdianKing Member Posts: 338
    LOL! I also asume that you were crap at warcraft3 as you saound very bitter about it. Playing the game must have been very testing for you. As for me, I am one of the people on the board, look for me as ArcAngelMercury, you will see my win's against losses are quiet unbalanced, I feel I play with pride and fairness. Also I have met many people and the game is very hard, maybe you just went against an aponent who was better then you. Or may be your just crap at the game, that is why your so bitter. Or the most likly thing is you never played the game and just shooting you mouth off about what you have heard. LOL!

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  • GaurdianKingGaurdianKing Member Posts: 338

     
    That is the most ignorant thing ever.. Excuse me but have you played WC3? They seem to have the most assholes in the world. And maybe these assholes dont go to these boards. EQ has nowhere near as many annoying idiots as people in blizzard, i havent seen someone mean yet.. Infact someone gave me free items yesterday in EQ. Maybe the EQ morons go to these boards for some reason. But just because someone 'follows' WoW doesnt mean they played wc3, tft etc.



    I think you are arrogant. Warcraft3:tft is a free game and is played by more than 5-6 times moire players than there are subscribers in everquest. You may have has a bad experience or like above working off a bad experience but quiet frankly from my experience crap players of the game simply moan endlessly about how people hack and how un fair the game is. Qiut frankly I am surprised no one has told you what a spoilt or bad sport you are. When you lose to the guy your suppous to be a sport abnout it and congradulate your aponent. As for ass holes, I will assume you mean insulting people, for all I know you may have gone into the pro gamers server or chat room and acted like a right dick(or a complete newbi eithier way they annoy them emensly) and when they asked you to leave you were being a prock about it as there are many people that take the game very seriously. It does use alot of skill after all.
    As for you, I can assure you that people in eq have talk about newbies as thow they where the plague, it's not as if they have never been newbie's is it. Your talking about kiddies being in a game, well let me assyme one thing, you have actaully go some statistics about this have you. I am posting on the general board about this and lets see from a pole how many kids are gpoing to be play wow and eq2 that are under the age of 16 shall we. I have seen the statistics on the account information from blizzards road map and company dialoge, check it out, email the freaking web-master for the companies public information at www.blizzard.co.uk. People in the beta tester are mainly over the age of 16. So please stop with the yaking as thow you know something. Your opinion does not count as a fact, niether does all your hypothesising.

    P.s everyone is ingnorant as if everyone was not the you would know everything or you would be perfect. Also, one more thing. As for me checking out blizzards company information, can you gove me some of soe's. I guess notas you assumed all you players were adults, I will tell you what I told the x eq player who left because of childish behaviour from opther players. Give me numbers and statistics from the web-page. Giveing me your opinion on something that can be solved with simple figures is pointless.

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