If you read up on the massive amount of info given WAR is very much the reverse of WoW (or pritty much the 'cookie cutter' MMOs)
WoW's main focus of game is PVE with raiding were anything gained affects solely the player gaining such thing, with PVP also being the same but with players instead of AI mobs really.. WAR on the other hand is RVR where yes there is PVE and PVP involed however everything gained via the player also helps the faction's effert in 'controling the world' so to speak.
Questing in WoW like many MMOs is first pick up the quest then grind for limited drops within usally a small area were many players 'camp'.. In WAR however you can go out massicare the feilds throughout the world and THEN get rewarded via finding a quest giver who wants the massive amounts lets say greenskin heads you've gathered by kill EACH greenskin you've happened to kill, as logically they all have heads...
In WoW and again in 'normal' MMOs to 'raid' is to find a group and that normally involes getting the 'correct' classes and waiting for them to show, with WAR's Public Quest system you don't need a 'group' in find a raid event, the raid event finds you and places you in a 'group' which just happens to be everyone in the area. (it's yet unknown if you actally see the group itself but it's there non the less).
These are just a handful of things that WAR gives to the industry, much like with DAoC if it's a sucess then it'll be just as groundbraking, which is why supossive looking 'clone' or not, we all should be gunning for it's sucess, mainly because WAR like many new MMOs upcomming are set to break the currently way we play... As currently we are 'working' in our games more then playing, leave the work at your RL job, games are ment to be fun, which is a key thing WAR is trying to do... Love it or hate it, you have to support what it's trying to show the industry.
No matter how I look, WAR does seem like a WoW's brother. The game mechanics itself might be different in many ways, but the tilesets and skins are cartoonish in very similar way and from the same era. Not saying it's a bad thing, at least it looks like you don't need a state of art computer to run it. Maybe that's a good way to lure more subscribers.
I wouldn't even go so far as to say the two look completely identical, WAR just seems a bit more gritty for lack of a better term. Plus it is only in alpha/beta state right now so the graphics are probably going to change before it comes out. I really do think the models look a lot cooler than WoW.
The truth is, wow was influenced by the warhammer tabletop but didn't copy it. There was no game world or online world, no proportions to copy, i.e. characters are 1/3 the size of this etc. etc. It was slitly hinted at in the warhammer table top series but obviously wow didn't copy it because if it did then your character would be about 1/100th of the game world which it is not. That is a fact. Now you can say it was influenced but not exact. If you look at the wow mmorpg though and compare it to the warhammer mmorpg there are much more similarities between the two in terms of proportions and art that are unique to wow, than wow took from warhammer. The only similarity I see in wow to warhammer are the dwarves. That is really it. The similarities i see between warhammer and wow are basicly everything, even the elves look the same, and no the elves from wow are completely unique.
Just my opinion. I know my rating is going to go down for posting this but I have to be honest with myself.
Originally posted by Daffid011 The chicken obviously came before the egg.
The egg came first.
Big Bang: about 12billion years ago Earth formed: about 5 billion years ago Life arises on earth: About 4 billion years ago through a chemical process:
The first life wasn't even a one-celled organism. The early earth was rich in ultraviolet light (filtered sunlight), carbon, methane, ammonia, hydrogen, lightning (electricity), liquid, a cooling planet, and much more. This rich environment allowed for a slow breakdown of hydrogen-rich molecular liquid and a re-forming of it into a more complex molecular liquid. Some of those molecules began having complex combinations of millions and billions of atoms. This eventually formed an organic soup that was able to allow molecules to duplicate themselves in proteins and acids.
Eventually this molecular soup produced a combination of nucleotides and enzymes that was the first successful form of DNA. This DNA had 4 nucleotides that was able to reproduce itself with perfect fidelity with the help of certain enzymes. This was the beginning of DNA, which was the first molecular machine able to duplicate itself perfectly every time. This organic goop ate itself up over and over again and formed more complex molecules and the nucleic acid and enzymes which was perfect for the creation of more complex cells.
This organic puddle was the "egg" of all life. (really, the whole planet was.)
This primordial soup turned into many different types of proteins, acids, and molecules. Many were useless and died. Some led to cells with a nucleus that succeeded and copied itself. Some molecules were attracted to water, others were repelled from it. The molecules got more and more complex, eventually turning into several different types including green oxygen-producing molecules. Molecules split and split and split (which is the egg, which is the parent?).
Eventually the water and atmosphere contained "molecular oxygen" oxygen-rich because of billions of years of undisturbed consumption and oxygen production. After billions of years of this, molecules slowly became more and more complex. Eventually there were single-celled organisms, then larval cells, etc. Millions of these organisms failed and died, but many survived.
This was the beginning of natural selection. This was the beginning of every species we know today. Some grew dependant on the oxygen created over the previous billion years in the air and water. Their reproduction always continued. Larvae continued to reproduce, always producing copies of themselves. Larvae became fish, some of those fish started eating each other. Some of the earliest prehistorical fish used their fins to drag themselves to other puddles where there were no predators. Some of those fish became amphibians, some became the first reptiles. Hundreds of millions of years later the world had dinosaurs and millions of other species including insects, birds, and everything we know today.
Therefore, the egg came first.
- Phos
AAH! A troll fire! Quick, pour some Kool-Aid on it!!!
Can someone explain to me how any sane person can say that the WAR human in this picture looks like the WoW human. What drugs do I need to take to see these images as being the same?
Originally posted by Wow4Lifer FAct. Warhammer mmorpg coppied wow mmorpg. opionion. Wow copied warhammer table top. The truth is, wow was influenced by the warhammer tabletop but didn't copy it. There was no game world or online world, no proportions to copy, i.e. characters are 1/3 the size of this etc. etc. It was slitly hinted at in the warhammer table top series but obviously wow didn't copy it because if it did then your character would be about 1/100th of the game world which it is not. That is a fact. Now you can say it was influenced but not exact. If you look at the wow mmorpg though and compare it to the warhammer mmorpg there are much more similarities between the two in terms of proportions and art that are unique to wow, than wow took from warhammer. The only similarity I see in wow to warhammer are the dwarves. That is really it. The similarities i see between warhammer and wow are basicly everything, even the elves look the same, and no the elves from wow are completely unique. Just my opinion. I know my rating is going to go down for posting this but I have to be honest with myself.
Your fact is a opinion. You provide no evidence that Mythic or that Games Workshop went out of their way to copy WoW whatsoever.
Also the fact that GW and Mythic had tons of previous Warhammer IP material to draw from in the creation of WAR lends itself to totally disproving your point and rendering it as a totally biased opinion that you so misguidedly pointed out as a fact.
I'm pretty sure now that every single person involved in the MMO community has at some point heard something on this matter. Like wow, this is getting old. Ok, yes, the artwork looks similiar (you all know why no need to explain this), but SO $@!%ING WHAT! OMFG! LIKE AAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! Is this all were gonna hear when we start playing? 'Hmm... I carry items in bags omg it's so similar to WoW even though I'm only lvl 2 and have already killed 26 people... hardy har har!' Dear God... if I was a staff member i would delete every single thread that started arguments like this as soon as I saw them. No one, I repeat, no one that hasn't already figured it out will all of a sudden come to their senses. Honestly as stupid as this may sound, trying to convince people into believing the truth is like trying to swallow cinnamon... it CAN'T BE DONE! So don't feed the hungry vultures and they'll eventually die out (well actually the odds of that are about 1 in 154,125,446,859,685 so don't read too much into that... but still... don't feed em'
P.S. It actually is impossible to swallow cinnamon. Search the cinnamon challenge on youtube, it's pretty funny lol
Now to pass the time why doesn't someone give a scientific explantion on the reasoning behind this just like Phos did there. Phos if you're there why don't you take the stand.
I dunno what to say I just hope WAR isn't instanced to the max. I'm tired of Levels and it appears WAR will have plnety and the combat looks like autoattack all over again
I hope spellborn smokes this MMO sorry no disrespect WAR fans. but I think original MMOs trying something new should always get more attention
Originally posted by vajuras I dunno what to say I just hope WAR isn't instanced to the max. I'm tired of Levels and it appears WAR will have plnety and the combat looks like autoattack all over again
I hope spellborn smokes this MMO sorry no disrespect WAR fans. but I think original MMOs trying something new should always get more attention
WAR will have 4 tiers which is equivalent to 40 levels. Mythic is also not a big fan of level cap increases thankfully. They understand that level cap increases for a PvP game is just a huge no no. DAOC has always stuck with it's level 50 cap and has never changed it since it's release despite many expansion packs.
Originally posted by Mortemia Answer to your question Shard: No matter how I look, WAR does seem like a WoW's brother. The game mechanics itself might be different in many ways, but the tilesets and skins are cartoonish in very similar way and from the same era. Not saying it's a bad thing, at least it looks like you don't need a state of art computer to run it. Maybe that's a good way to lure more subscribers.
No matter how I look, WAR does seem like a WoW's brother. The game mechanics itself might be different in many ways, but the tilesets and skins are cartoonish in very similar way and from the same era. Not saying it's a bad thing, at least it looks like you don't need a state of art computer to run it. Maybe that's a good way to lure more subscribers.
You must be color blind.
I really have to agree here. First of all, let's look at his attire.. It looks much more realistic than WoW's. Second, let's look at the environment. It looks much more realistic, am I right? Not to mention that there seems to be a higher resolution on the ground texture in WAR than in WoW. Also, the lighting. Look how WoW has little shading based on light source, whereas WAR looks, again, more realistic.
Can someone explain to me how any sane person can say that the WAR human in this picture looks like the WoW human in the other picture. What drugs do I need to take to see these images as being the same?
They are clearly both humans. They're wearing armor and wielding weapons. Everybody knows Blizzard invented humans, weapons, armor, MMOs, and the idea of people wearing things and holding things. It's obvious WAR is just a ripoff of WoW's awesomely original idea of people who wear things and hold things.
Originally posted by bonobotheory Originally posted by Anti-Fanboi Can someone explain to me how any sane person can say that the WAR human in this picture looks like the WoW human in the other picture. What drugs do I need to take to see these images as being the same?
They are clearly both humans. They're wearing armor and wielding weapons. Everybody knows Blizzard invented humans, weapons, armor, MMOs, and the idea of people wearing things and holding things. It's obvious WAR is just a ripoff of WoW's awesomely original idea of people who wear things and hold things.
Can someone explain to me how any sane person can say that the WAR human in this picture looks like the WoW human in the other picture. What drugs do I need to take to see these images as being the same?
They are clearly both humans. They're wearing armor and wielding weapons. Everybody knows Blizzard invented humans, weapons, armor, MMOs, and the idea of people wearing things and holding things. It's obvious WAR is just a ripoff of WoW's awesomely original idea of people who wear things and hold things.
Some similarities...
Both have lower polygons than other games of the same genre.
Both have cartoon style proportions. Even though the war human looks more real than the wow human, they both still exhibit similar if not almost exact proportions. Better would be to post a picture of wow humans, war humans, vanguard humans, everquest humans, everquest II humans, and lotr humans. This will highlight the similarities between these two games and you will instantly see that WAR actually is 80 percent similar to war - in my opinion, as opposed to being completely in another ball park like EQ2 or vanguard. But seriously it doesn't even matter. I am sure WAR will be different in terms of gameplay and offer something new to the genre. For real - more competition means better games in general so we should all be rejoicing at this. Point in case however, I still contend that war borrowed a signifigant amount of inovation from wow - by inovation i mean unique things to wow that aren't in other mmorpg. I mean this in terms of graphics, not gameply, or anything else. Don't be suprised if you see similar rivers, similar skies, and a limited color palete similar to wow. Maybe a bit more enhanced but overall similar relative to other mmorpgs.
Originally posted by Anti-Fanboi Originally posted by vajuras I dunno what to say I just hope WAR isn't instanced to the max. I'm tired of Levels and it appears WAR will have plnety and the combat looks like autoattack all over againI hope spellborn smokes this MMO sorry no disrespect WAR fans. but I think original MMOs trying something new should always get more attention
WAR will have 4 tiers which is equivalent to 40 levels. Mythic is also not a big fan of level cap increases thankfully. They understand that level cap increases for a PvP game is just a huge no no. DAOC has always stuck with it's level 50 cap and has never changed it since it's release despite many expansion packs.
I regret I never played DAoC thus my opinions on WAR is worth water
I dunno what to say I just hope WAR isn't instanced to the max. I'm tired of Levels and it appears WAR will have plnety and the combat looks like autoattack all over again
I hope spellborn smokes this MMO sorry no disrespect WAR fans. but I think original MMOs trying something new should always get more attention
WAR will have 4 tiers which is equivalent to 40 levels. Mythic is also not a big fan of level cap increases thankfully. They understand that level cap increases for a PvP game is just a huge no no. DAOC has always stuck with it's level 50 cap and has never changed it since it's release despite many expansion packs.
I regret I never played DAoC thus my opinions on WAR is worth water
Good screenshots you posted there
They don't believe in raising the levels of pvp games? What do you consider artifacts? Aka weapons you level after reaching max leve. Isn't this just another form of leveling or increasing the cap? Seriously, mythic made DAOC and I loved DAOC, but mythic down the line def. screwed it up. Not flaming. Just pointint it out so maybe a mythic dev will read this and in actuality keep things like artifacts out of the game.
Can someone explain to me how any sane person can say that the WAR human in this picture looks like the WoW human. What drugs do I need to take to see these images as being the same?
Drug wise you need a mixture of LSD, magic mushrooms and a WoW account.
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Can someone explain to me how any sane person can say that the WAR human in this picture looks like the WoW human in the other picture. What drugs do I need to take to see these images as being the same?
They are clearly both humans. They're wearing armor and wielding weapons. Everybody knows Blizzard invented humans, weapons, armor, MMOs, and the idea of people wearing things and holding things. It's obvious WAR is just a ripoff of WoW's awesomely original idea of people who wear things and hold things.
Some similarities...
Both have lower polygons than other games of the same genre. Both have cartoon style proportions. Even though the war human looks more real than the wow human, they both still exhibit similar if not almost exact proportions. Better would be to post a picture of wow humans, war humans, vanguard humans, everquest humans, everquest II humans, and lotr humans. This will highlight the similarities between these two games and you will instantly see that WAR actually is 80 percent similar to war - in my opinion, as opposed to being completely in another ball park like EQ2 or vanguard. But seriously it doesn't even matter. I am sure WAR will be different in terms of gameplay and offer something new to the genre. For real - more competition means better games in general so we should all be rejoicing at this. Point in case however, I still contend that war borrowed a signifigant amount of inovation from wow - by inovation i mean unique things to wow that aren't in other mmorpg. I mean this in terms of graphics, not gameply, or anything else. Don't be suprised if you see similar rivers, similar skies, and a limited color palete similar to wow. Maybe a bit more enhanced but overall similar relative to other mmorpgs.
Same proportions? Take a good look at the WoW's human forearms and feet as they are huge to the point of being comical. Also the facial features are not even remotely realistic compared to the WAR shot of the priest of Sigmar which I might add looks a lot closer to the image below of the guy dress up as Priest of Sigmar facially. Oh and yes I know you can't see his lips and chin but they are just as well proportioned as his checks, nose, brow, forehead, etc...
Also WoW's color pallet is anything but limited. WoW's epileptic like color scheme isn't exactly matched by WAR's more muted color theme in it's environments if you compare released beta shots.
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Couple of points.
We all know that the warhammer lore was first
Blizzard created a game with similar classes and characters which heavily (in parts) resembled the WH lore
WoW is a massive success
During WoW's massive success, Mythic pick up the licence for WH and stride to make a mmorpg too on the lore from an originality viewpoint. incorperating their own previously used game mechanics and design.
Blizzard was the first to release a mmorpg which heavly resembled the WH lore.
Some people believe that in game videos when watched one after another of the two games find it hard to tell the difference in game play, (animations - jumping walking etc)
So we have a 'looks like' based on looks in part and also the way classes act. Similar styles for say Orcs and Dwarfs. Mythics Orc's walk like Blizzards same as the dwarfs. They all jump the same too. Course they do! how else would you expect them to move, but the resemblance between the two games in question is more that war and any other game with similar characters. But lets remember its still Beta here so..
Although War is more of a 2008 Patch for WoW in my opinion, updated graphics, introduction of proper RvR, new concepts for questing and introducing seiging. More of a WoW patch than a DAoC. I hope when it releases it stands independant on its own two feet and similarities drop down.
Mythic knew comparisons will be made. Done on purpose?
How it all turns out should be judged on the final product.
Was the Warhammer Licence sort after on purpose instead of a different I.P.?
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Problem is this
WH look evolved this way
WH->WOW->WAR
Mythic knows WOW copied WH in good way. So they decided "Why should we invent hot water ?" and they copy WOW which is copy of WH.
Result WAR looks like WOW2
Key word in all this either way...
LOOKS
If you read up on the massive amount of info given WAR is very much the reverse of WoW (or pritty much the 'cookie cutter' MMOs)
WoW's main focus of game is PVE with raiding were anything gained affects solely the player gaining such thing, with PVP also being the same but with players instead of AI mobs really.. WAR on the other hand is RVR where yes there is PVE and PVP involed however everything gained via the player also helps the faction's effert in 'controling the world' so to speak.
Questing in WoW like many MMOs is first pick up the quest then grind for limited drops within usally a small area were many players 'camp'.. In WAR however you can go out massicare the feilds throughout the world and THEN get rewarded via finding a quest giver who wants the massive amounts lets say greenskin heads you've gathered by kill EACH greenskin you've happened to kill, as logically they all have heads...
In WoW and again in 'normal' MMOs to 'raid' is to find a group and that normally involes getting the 'correct' classes and waiting for them to show, with WAR's Public Quest system you don't need a 'group' in find a raid event, the raid event finds you and places you in a 'group' which just happens to be everyone in the area. (it's yet unknown if you actally see the group itself but it's there non the less).
These are just a handful of things that WAR gives to the industry, much like with DAoC if it's a sucess then it'll be just as groundbraking, which is why supossive looking 'clone' or not, we all should be gunning for it's sucess, mainly because WAR like many new MMOs upcomming are set to break the currently way we play... As currently we are 'working' in our games more then playing, leave the work at your RL job, games are ment to be fun, which is a key thing WAR is trying to do... Love it or hate it, you have to support what it's trying to show the industry.
Bring on the WARRRRGGHH!
*Ahem* it is a clone off another game. The game is called Ultima Online. The first and greatest MMORPG. Get your facts straight.
Answer to your question Shard:
No matter how I look, WAR does seem like a WoW's brother. The game mechanics itself might be different in many ways, but the tilesets and skins are cartoonish in very similar way and from the same era. Not saying it's a bad thing, at least it looks like you don't need a state of art computer to run it. Maybe that's a good way to lure more subscribers.
I wouldn't even go so far as to say the two look completely identical, WAR just seems a bit more gritty for lack of a better term. Plus it is only in alpha/beta state right now so the graphics are probably going to change before it comes out. I really do think the models look a lot cooler than WoW.
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Warhammer mmorpg coppied wow mmorpg.
opionion.
Wow copied warhammer table top.
The truth is, wow was influenced by the warhammer tabletop but didn't copy it. There was no game world or online world, no proportions to copy, i.e. characters are 1/3 the size of this etc. etc. It was slitly hinted at in the warhammer table top series but obviously wow didn't copy it because if it did then your character would be about 1/100th of the game world which it is not. That is a fact. Now you can say it was influenced but not exact. If you look at the wow mmorpg though and compare it to the warhammer mmorpg there are much more similarities between the two in terms of proportions and art that are unique to wow, than wow took from warhammer. The only similarity I see in wow to warhammer are the dwarves. That is really it. The similarities i see between warhammer and wow are basicly everything, even the elves look the same, and no the elves from wow are completely unique.
Just my opinion. I know my rating is going to go down for posting this but I have to be honest with myself.
Oh c'mon, WAR is WoW2, we all know it.
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The chicken obviously came before the egg.
The egg came first.
Big Bang: about 12billion years ago
Earth formed: about 5 billion years ago
Life arises on earth: About 4 billion years ago through a chemical process:
The first life wasn't even a one-celled organism. The early earth was rich in ultraviolet light (filtered sunlight), carbon, methane, ammonia, hydrogen, lightning (electricity), liquid, a cooling planet, and much more. This rich environment allowed for a slow breakdown of hydrogen-rich molecular liquid and a re-forming of it into a more complex molecular liquid. Some of those molecules began having complex combinations of millions and billions of atoms. This eventually formed an organic soup that was able to allow molecules to duplicate themselves in proteins and acids.
Eventually this molecular soup produced a combination of nucleotides and enzymes that was the first successful form of DNA. This DNA had 4 nucleotides that was able to reproduce itself with perfect fidelity with the help of certain enzymes. This was the beginning of DNA, which was the first molecular machine able to duplicate itself perfectly every time. This organic goop ate itself up over and over again and formed more complex molecules and the nucleic acid and enzymes which was perfect for the creation of more complex cells.
This organic puddle was the "egg" of all life. (really, the whole planet was.)
This primordial soup turned into many different types of proteins, acids, and molecules. Many were useless and died. Some led to cells with a nucleus that succeeded and copied itself. Some molecules were attracted to water, others were repelled from it. The molecules got more and more complex, eventually turning into several different types including green oxygen-producing molecules. Molecules split and split and split (which is the egg, which is the parent?).
Eventually the water and atmosphere contained "molecular oxygen" oxygen-rich because of billions of years of undisturbed consumption and oxygen production. After billions of years of this, molecules slowly became more and more complex. Eventually there were single-celled organisms, then larval cells, etc. Millions of these organisms failed and died, but many survived.
This was the beginning of natural selection. This was the beginning of every species we know today. Some grew dependant on the oxygen created over the previous billion years in the air and water. Their reproduction always continued. Larvae continued to reproduce, always producing copies of themselves. Larvae became fish, some of those fish started eating each other. Some of the earliest prehistorical fish used their fins to drag themselves to other puddles where there were no predators. Some of those fish became amphibians, some became the first reptiles. Hundreds of millions of years later the world had dinosaurs and millions of other species including insects, birds, and everything we know today.
Therefore, the egg came first.
- Phos
Can someone explain to me how any sane person can say that the WAR human in this picture looks like the WoW human. What drugs do I need to take to see these images as being the same?
Your fact is a opinion. You provide no evidence that Mythic or that Games Workshop went out of their way to copy WoW whatsoever.
Also the fact that GW and Mythic had tons of previous Warhammer IP material to draw from in the creation of WAR lends itself to totally disproving your point and rendering it as a totally biased opinion that you so misguidedly pointed out as a fact.
lol funny post Phos, actually makes sense too.
I'm pretty sure now that every single person involved in the MMO community has at some point heard something on this matter. Like wow, this is getting old. Ok, yes, the artwork looks similiar (you all know why no need to explain this), but SO $@!%ING WHAT! OMFG! LIKE AAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! Is this all were gonna hear when we start playing? 'Hmm... I carry items in bags omg it's so similar to WoW even though I'm only lvl 2 and have already killed 26 people... hardy har har!' Dear God... if I was a staff member i would delete every single thread that started arguments like this as soon as I saw them. No one, I repeat, no one that hasn't already figured it out will all of a sudden come to their senses. Honestly as stupid as this may sound, trying to convince people into believing the truth is like trying to swallow cinnamon... it CAN'T BE DONE! So don't feed the hungry vultures and they'll eventually die out (well actually the odds of that are about 1 in 154,125,446,859,685 so don't read too much into that... but still... don't feed em'
P.S. It actually is impossible to swallow cinnamon. Search the cinnamon challenge on youtube, it's pretty funny lol
Now to pass the time why doesn't someone give a scientific explantion on the reasoning behind this just like Phos did there. Phos if you're there why don't you take the stand.
I dunno what to say I just hope WAR isn't instanced to the max. I'm tired of Levels and it appears WAR will have plnety and the combat looks like autoattack all over again
I hope spellborn smokes this MMO sorry no disrespect WAR fans. but I think original MMOs trying something new should always get more attention
WAR will have 4 tiers which is equivalent to 40 levels. Mythic is also not a big fan of level cap increases thankfully. They understand that level cap increases for a PvP game is just a huge no no. DAOC has always stuck with it's level 50 cap and has never changed it since it's release despite many expansion packs.
You must be color blind.
Although UO was better.
You must be color blind.
I really have to agree here. First of all, let's look at his attire.. It looks much more realistic than WoW's. Second, let's look at the environment. It looks much more realistic, am I right? Not to mention that there seems to be a higher resolution on the ground texture in WAR than in WoW. Also, the lighting. Look how WoW has little shading based on light source, whereas WAR looks, again, more realistic.
They are clearly both humans. They're wearing armor and wielding weapons. Everybody knows Blizzard invented humans, weapons, armor, MMOs, and the idea of people wearing things and holding things. It's obvious WAR is just a ripoff of WoW's awesomely original idea of people who wear things and hold things.
Hehehehe....nice one.
They are clearly both humans. They're wearing armor and wielding weapons. Everybody knows Blizzard invented humans, weapons, armor, MMOs, and the idea of people wearing things and holding things. It's obvious WAR is just a ripoff of WoW's awesomely original idea of people who wear things and hold things.
Some similarities...Both have lower polygons than other games of the same genre.
Both have cartoon style proportions. Even though the war human looks more real than the wow human, they both still exhibit similar if not almost exact proportions. Better would be to post a picture of wow humans, war humans, vanguard humans, everquest humans, everquest II humans, and lotr humans. This will highlight the similarities between these two games and you will instantly see that WAR actually is 80 percent similar to war - in my opinion, as opposed to being completely in another ball park like EQ2 or vanguard. But seriously it doesn't even matter. I am sure WAR will be different in terms of gameplay and offer something new to the genre. For real - more competition means better games in general so we should all be rejoicing at this. Point in case however, I still contend that war borrowed a signifigant amount of inovation from wow - by inovation i mean unique things to wow that aren't in other mmorpg. I mean this in terms of graphics, not gameply, or anything else. Don't be suprised if you see similar rivers, similar skies, and a limited color palete similar to wow. Maybe a bit more enhanced but overall similar relative to other mmorpgs.
WAR will have 4 tiers which is equivalent to 40 levels. Mythic is also not a big fan of level cap increases thankfully. They understand that level cap increases for a PvP game is just a huge no no. DAOC has always stuck with it's level 50 cap and has never changed it since it's release despite many expansion packs.
I regret I never played DAoC thus my opinions on WAR is worth water
Good screenshots you posted there
WAR will have 4 tiers which is equivalent to 40 levels. Mythic is also not a big fan of level cap increases thankfully. They understand that level cap increases for a PvP game is just a huge no no. DAOC has always stuck with it's level 50 cap and has never changed it since it's release despite many expansion packs.
I regret I never played DAoC thus my opinions on WAR is worth water
Good screenshots you posted there
They don't believe in raising the levels of pvp games? What do you consider artifacts? Aka weapons you level after reaching max leve. Isn't this just another form of leveling or increasing the cap? Seriously, mythic made DAOC and I loved DAOC, but mythic down the line def. screwed it up. Not flaming. Just pointint it out so maybe a mythic dev will read this and in actuality keep things like artifacts out of the game.
Drug wise you need a mixture of LSD, magic mushrooms and a WoW account.
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Retired from: Neocron, Everquest, Everquest 2, Guild Wars, RF Online and Final Fantasy VII
Currently Playing : EvE Online.
Same proportions? Take a good look at the WoW's human forearms and feet as they are huge to the point of being comical. Also the facial features are not even remotely realistic compared to the WAR shot of the priest of Sigmar which I might add looks a lot closer to the image below of the guy dress up as Priest of Sigmar facially. Oh and yes I know you can't see his lips and chin but they are just as well proportioned as his checks, nose, brow, forehead, etc...
Also WoW's color pallet is anything but limited. WoW's epileptic like color scheme isn't exactly matched by WAR's more muted color theme in it's environments if you compare released beta shots.
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/ssotd/#latest
In fact WAR's color scheme bares a strikingly similarity to DAOC's. Granted WAR is slightly a few notches colorful then DAOC's color scheme IMHO.
http://www.darkageofcamelot.com/screenshots.php
http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/media/screenshots/
Couple of points.
We all know that the warhammer lore was first
Blizzard created a game with similar classes and characters which heavily (in parts) resembled the WH lore
WoW is a massive success
During WoW's massive success, Mythic pick up the licence for WH and stride to make a mmorpg too on the lore from an originality viewpoint. incorperating their own previously used game mechanics and design.
Blizzard was the first to release a mmorpg which heavly resembled the WH lore.
Some people believe that in game videos when watched one after another of the two games find it hard to tell the difference in game play, (animations - jumping walking etc)
So we have a 'looks like' based on looks in part and also the way classes act. Similar styles for say Orcs and Dwarfs. Mythics Orc's walk like Blizzards same as the dwarfs. They all jump the same too. Course they do! how else would you expect them to move, but the resemblance between the two games in question is more that war and any other game with similar characters. But lets remember its still Beta here so..
Although War is more of a 2008 Patch for WoW in my opinion, updated graphics, introduction of proper RvR, new concepts for questing and introducing seiging. More of a WoW patch than a DAoC. I hope when it releases it stands independant on its own two feet and similarities drop down.
Mythic knew comparisons will be made. Done on purpose?
How it all turns out should be judged on the final product.
Was the Warhammer Licence sort after on purpose instead of a different I.P.?