Originally posted by Ugarit VG IS ONLY A GAME. so wake up now .A PRODUCT, industrial software.
I do not think that is the issue; that was never the issue for me. I think the issue has been about fairness and honesty in writing "impressions" and "reviews" of games. When the intent and purpose of an "impression" or "review" is to, in effect, write: "Dear Diary, I am mad. I quit Vanguard."
The OP's own post history indicates precisely what I have been saying all along. The purpose and intent of the OP was not to write a fair and honest "impression" or "review" of the game. Since that time, the OP's
Own Words and
Bumping of Threads
shows this (see generally OP's post history www.mmorpg.com/profile.cfm/username/Morgaur). Yes. I (and others) e x p o s e d the OP. I am proud we did, whether for this game or any other. The OP wrote a misleading "impression" and "review" in bad faith, whose intent and purpose was to bash the game. I am fine with bashing the game, however, do not cloak it in "review" language that gives the impression of good faith objectivity, honesty, and fairness.
----- WoW and fast food = commercial successes. I neither play WoW nor eat fast food.
As several people here have mentioned, and Im quoting alot of them on this:
Post a link to 1 post, only 1 single post made by me, where I have created a "Dear Diary, I quit post". If you do this, then I might agree with you.
Your problem is that you cannot produce 1 single post to backup your claim. In other words you are just incredibly pathetic in your feeble attempts to discredit me.
So please before you post anything further about me, prove it!
As several people here have mentioned, and Im quoting alot of them on this: Post a link to 1 post, only 1 single post made by me, where I have created a "Dear Diary, I quit post". If you do this, then I might agree with you. Your problem is that you cannot produce 1 single post to backup your claim. In other words you are just incredibly pathetic in your feeble attempts to discredit me. So please before you post anything further about me, prove it!*
I actually did just review, again, your post history. I am shocked by your obsession with this. I also looked at your alt's (Jhaerel) posts as well, and you are in the habit of always thanking people who 1) agree with you and/or 2) say something critical about me.
Prove it? All some one needs to do is really look at nearly any one of your posts to determine both what your 1) purpose and 2) intent are on the Vanguard forums. You are not here to "review" the game. You are here to bash it for personal reasons.
Exposed.
*Your 1) own words and 2) bumping of threads has proved this better than I could.
----- WoW and fast food = commercial successes. I neither play WoW nor eat fast food.
As several people here have mentioned, and Im quoting alot of them on this: Post a link to 1 post, only 1 single post made by me, where I have created a "Dear Diary, I quit post". If you do this, then I might agree with you. Your problem is that you cannot produce 1 single post to backup your claim. In other words you are just incredibly pathetic in your feeble attempts to discredit me. So please before you post anything further about me, prove it!*
I actually did just review, again, your post history. I am shocked by your obsession with this. I also looked at your alt's (Jhaerel) posts as well, and you are in the habit of always thanking people who 1) agree with you and/or 2) say something critical about me.
Prove it? All some one needs to do is really look at nearly any one of your posts to determine both what your 1) purpose and 2) intent are on the Vanguard forums. You are not here to "review" the game. You are here to bash it for personal reasons.
Exposed.
*Your 1) own words and 2) bumping of threads has proved this better than I could.
Oh, you're shocked...
Funny, i thought you were the one obsessing over the OP, seriously, you have done nothing more in this thread than to flame a poster who posted his views, discrediting him with statements such as "He can't handle a challenge" and "ZOMG, look at how he bumps posts, shaaaaame*"
This is low, and if this is how all elite members act, well... let's just say i expected a little more.
While we're at it, i think it may be in order for you to supply that link everyone is asking about, you just keep insisting on how he is the villain, now prove it (yes, i said it) Mr. Numbers.
For your comment on how the OP is just here to slander Vanguard (and other games too, but only Vanguard is relevant in this topic) excuse me, have you read what you have posted throughout the thread, you sir, are doing your very best to make the OP look as bad as you can, what does that make you? A hypocrite perhaps?
* Exaggerated for the pure nonsense that statement was
Funny, i thought you were the one obsessing over the OP, seriously, you have done nothing more in this thread than to flame a poster who posted his views, discrediting him with statements such as "He can't handle a challenge" and "ZOMG, look at how he bumps posts, shaaaaame*"
This is low, and if this is how all elite members act, well... let's just say i expected a little more.
While we're at it, i think it may be in order for you to supply that link everyone is asking about, you just keep insisting on how he is the villain, now prove it (yes, i said it) Mr. Numbers.
For your comment on how the OP is just here to slander Vanguard (and other games too, but only Vanguard is relevant in this topic) excuse me, have you read what you have posted throughout the thread, you sir, are doing your very best to make the OP look as bad as you can, what does that make you? A hypocrite perhaps?
* Exaggerated for the pure nonsense that statement was
1. I am not "obsessing" at all about the OP or what he bumps. [In fact, I am having fun.]
2. His (a) own words and (b) bumping of threads shows his purpose and intent. I am not inventing, assuming, creating, or expanding anything beyond his own words, conduct, and history.
3. The link? It would be the unedited original post and nearly any other post in the OP's (or his alt's) history. His intent and purpose are apparent by his words and post history.
4. I am not trying to make the OP look bad. He makes himself look bad. In fact, he has called me names (please see above, calling me a "sucker").
5. I think it is a moot and settled issue. My premise is the same as it always has been. The OP's own words and bumping of threads shows that his purpose and intent was never to write an honest or fair "review" of Vanguard.
6. As an aside, I will not give a single inch on issues of good faith, honesty, and fairness. www.youtube.com/watch
----- WoW and fast food = commercial successes. I neither play WoW nor eat fast food.
1. I am not "obsessing" at all about the OP or what he bumps. [In fact, I am having fun.] 2. His (a) own words and (b) bumping of threads shows his purpose and intent. I am not inventing, assuming, creating, or expanding anything beyond his own words, conduct, and history. 3. The link? It would be the unedited original post and nearly any other post in the OP's (or his alt's) history. His intent and purpose are apparent by his words and post history. 4. I am not trying to make the OP look bad. He makes himself look bad. In fact, he has called me names (please see above, calling me a "sucker"). 5. I think it is a moot and settled issue. My premise is the same as it always has been. The OP's own words and bumping of threads shows that his purpose and intent was never to write an honest or fair "review" of Vanguard. 6. As an aside, I will not give a single inch on issues of good faith, honesty, and fairness. www.youtube.com/watch
1. No, following someone around and examining all the threads he has made, looking out for bumps and other minor things is not obsession... Riiiiight.
2. Do please try to look at your own words: "The OP becomes easily frustrated." "Dear Diary, I bought TR and quit. [Day Two] Dear Diary, I bought Vanguard and quit." "writing a "dear diary" vent on MMORPG and in the title claiming it is a "review." In my view, that is 1) dishonest and 2) misleading"
Shall i go on?
3. Please do link that please, i am sure that you've kept the "Unedited" post somewhere so you can prove your point.
4. See 2.
5. It wasn't portraited as a review though, the topic title clearly says "Impressions" on my screen.
1. No, following someone around and examining all the threads he has made, looking out for bumps and other minor things is not obsession... Riiiiight.
5. It wasn't portraited as a review though, the topic title clearly says "Impressions"
1. He is following me around. You have not reviewed his post history. He sandwiches, or Oreo cookies, my posts: I am the creamy, white stuff in the middle (see, e.g., www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/158887/page/2). It is a form of censorship.
5. It was edited.
The OP's 1) own words, 2) post history, 3) bumping of threads, and 4) censoring my posts (please see the example linked above) make his purpose and intent apparent.
----- WoW and fast food = commercial successes. I neither play WoW nor eat fast food.
truenorth, as the basis for your criticism of the OP seems to stem from the idea that his post is a 'review', would you please direct me to the part in this thread where the OP labels it as such? I cannot for the life of me find it. An 'impression' is exactly that: an impression. Put simply, it's an opinion. Nothing more, nothing less. Simple. I agree with you about what a review is however. It implies a fair, learned, and unbiased description ( I also agree with your sig "Ron Paul 08", but thats off the topic). So far as I can tell, this thread is not, and never was, intended (or even labeled by the OP) as a review. Though I concede I have had the wrong impression (no pun intended) regarding the nature of posts before. So might you direct me to the point I obviously missed? I appreciate it.
Just discovered this post while I am downloading GU3... and it got me really laughing.
The OP describe a fairly well known place in TK where it is always difficult to go up even with levit. I must have been there 15 times and it's always a bit of a pain ... but doable .. never seen it as a bug ... They could always have run around the place ... oh well
- VG is a nice and beautiful game, interesting for sure
- but buggy and a lots of areas are empty. (you can see it when you pay for flying mount or when you make screenshots: all my screens of VG are really NICE and BEAUTIFUL but i never see something living. Around New targonor, you'll see nothing living, some spiders around, and if you take a walk from tursh to NT you' ll encounter spiders (not dangerous at all never attacking) 1/2 snakes and that's all.
Downloaded the GU3, not a lot of differences between GU2 and GU3. Pet always buggy, lag, even with a good PC, holiday's event is fun but imo this game needs more improvement. Tried and tried and tried again but now gonna pay for something working: EQ2. Worst than bugs, i feel alone in this huge world, not even a mob... I prefer VG to EQ2 and Lotro, but i don't have another choice: i play or i dream about playing. My choice is Everquest II. (i'll never come back to lotro,never!)
Good luck to VG players. Can say i'm sad but nothing else to do.
Few people in a huge world... Saw so many empties areas near NT this evening, really it's sad. Port isn't living, town isn't living etc. of course can say NT is impressive and BEAUTIFUL but imo it's almost a ghost town. Can play with bugs (why not) but empty area... Not even a mob a char or something like that, a quest something ??? In EQ2 Queynos is a living town. mobs walks around, speak, etc. Thats imo the real drama of VG
5. It wasn't portraited as a review though, the topic title clearly says "Impressions"
5. It was edited.
Date and time the first post was made
11/29/07 1:56:45 PM
Date and time it was last edited
11/29/07 2:02:49 PM (a couple minutes after it was posted)
Date and time TrueNorthBG starts calling this a "review"
11/30/07 3:00:27 PM (post #17 over a full day later)
I'm sure TNBG will have yet another excuse, but the fact remains he didn't change his accusations until the next day. Only after someone calls him out for pointing to the OP post history that doesn't exist.
Yeah and kinda odd the OP posted in another thread that they logged in last night and laughed at the status of the game where in this post they said they uninstalled it and was done with it.
Kinda uninstalled and reinstalls a lot. Ya know if ya hate the game why reinstall it?
Yeah and kinda odd the OP posted in another thread that they logged in last night and laughed at the status of the game where in this post they said they uninstalled it and was done with it. Kinda uninstalled and reinstalls a lot. Ya know if ya hate the game why reinstall it?
Ya does seem kinda odd i noticed that myself but i think alot of people that post pretend they play or pull the old i have a station pass trick. i would say 90% of the negative posters on this site havent played vanguard in over 8 months or more
Yeah and kinda odd the OP posted in another thread that they logged in last night and laughed at the status of the game where in this post they said they uninstalled it and was done with it. Kinda uninstalled and reinstalls a lot. Ya know if ya hate the game why reinstall it?
Ya does seem kinda odd i noticed that myself but i think alot of people that post pretend they play or pull the old i have a station pass trick. i would say 90% of the negative posters on this site havent played vanguard in over 8 months or more
That's probably true, but you also have to remember that anyone who brushes over a game such as Vanguard with a "bad" or "good" post is probably not a reputable source in the first place.
We should remember that everyone has their own thoughts of what makes a game good, and ultimately Vanguard -- like most major MMOs -- falls somewhere in the middle.
It has its strengths and its faults.
As far as strengths go; class selection and design is just superb. Innovative and most of all, fun.
And as for faults; the game is still working to overcome the stigma from launch and unfortunately that taste was bad enough to keep potential otherwise fair-minded people away. Not to mention, while the world is large and beautifully rendered, the character models are lackluster and awkward, as are many skill/spell animations.
Then again, as a veteran from several MMOs and specifically FFXI in this regard-- most spell/skill animations look shoddy in several games after Skill Chain animations of FFXI.
Vanguard is a niche game with many excellent reasons that appeal and just as many to repulse.
Originally posted by Daffid011 When did it become a bad thing to expect a functional product?
Because that is a myth. Every game out there mmo or console has its bugs. There was a few times in DDO where a mob got bugged and we would have to redo the instance all over again. There was also a few times in LOTRO as well. I said a few cusswords but gave it another go or moved on.
As for TK in VG that place is very buggy if you are a small race. I grouped with several people who got stuck in rocks or other things there. You know what, they got ropped, summoned, or /stuck and got summoned back into group. A minor inconvience and we're back on track. I don't experience it daily and to give up after ONE incident is beyond me, but I've grouped with people who will immediatly drop group without a word the moment they die.
Yeah and kinda odd the OP posted in another thread that they logged in last night and laughed at the status of the game where in this post they said they uninstalled it and was done with it. Kinda uninstalled and reinstalls a lot. Ya know if ya hate the game why reinstall it?
Reading his posts, he doesn't hate the game, just the bugs/performance. I will grant a little dramatic in the other thread, but someone said the last patch "fixed" the game so he gave it another whirl maybe since it was still payed for.
I suspect the OP and I share a similarity. Vanguard appeals to the inner-EQ spirit deep inside me. I know the stove is hot. I know it is going to burn my hand when I touch it. I know I should wait for the red hot burning to cool down before touching it, but for some uncontrollable reason I simply must touch it.
Everyone has their breaking point when they really try to like something.
I actually did just review, again, your post history. I am shocked by your obsession with this. I also looked at your alt's (Jhaerel) posts as well, and you are in the habit of always thanking people who 1) agree with you and/or 2) say something critical about me.
EXCUSE ME?
I would HIGHLY recommend you simply shut your computer off, go find a grave, and lie in it until your life ends.
I am HARDLY the same person as the OP, and once again you are proving yourself to be a true idiot. And not to mention, checking my own posts requires you go no further than this very thread, because I have never posted anywhere else on this site.
Maybe you should check the signup dates on our accounts? How about that? I've been here since April 7th, 2005, reading many of the different forums here. So your claim that the OP would go and create another account just to fight with you does not hold water. Do you think that everyone on here that is posting against you is just one person? Does it pain you that much to know that several people think you are wrong? "Woah! This can't be possible! They must all be the same person!"
I actually did just review, again, your post history. I am shocked by your obsession with this. I also looked at your alt's (Jhaerel) posts as well, and you are in the habit of always thanking people who 1) agree with you and/or 2) say something critical about me.
EXCUSE ME?
I would HIGHLY recommend you simply shut your computer off, go find a grave, and lie in it until your life ends.
I am HARDLY the same person as the OP, and once again you are proving yourself to be a true idiot. And not to mention, checking my own posts requires you go no further than this very thread, because I have never posted anywhere else on this site.
Maybe you should check the signup dates on our accounts? How about that? I've been here since April 7th, 2005, reading many of the different forums here. So your claim that the OP would go and create another account just to fight with you does not hold water. Do you think that everyone on here that is posting against you is just one person? Does it pain you that much to know that several people think you are wrong? "Woah! This can't be possible! They must all be the same person!"
Grow up.
Jh.
I bet Im an alt of the OP too. everyone in the world agrees with truenorthbg except us 3.. me, myself and I.
Watch your thoughts; they become words. Watch your words; they become actions. Watch your actions; they become habits. Watch your habits; they become character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny. Lao-Tze
truenorthbg should be commended for his steadfastness. He could go far in this world with the proper guidance.
trunorthbg, please apply to FOX news ASAP!
TORT REFORM: I am in favor of "settlement panels". Easy for the judge to look at a "best practice" settlement per offense. Who needs litigation when we can save time and money by cutting out the middle man through "comparative effectiveness"?
This thread is great. It is like reliving the good old days when people actually thought VG would be a good game and it had it's 15 minutes of fame. We just need a quick peak from Jackdog to bring it back fully.
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I do not think that is the issue; that was never the issue for me. I think the issue has been about fairness and honesty in writing "impressions" and "reviews" of games. When the intent and purpose of an "impression" or "review" is to, in effect, write: "Dear Diary, I am mad. I quit Vanguard."
The OP's own post history indicates precisely what I have been saying all along. The purpose and intent of the OP was not to write a fair and honest "impression" or "review" of the game. Since that time, the OP's
shows this (see generally OP's post history www.mmorpg.com/profile.cfm/username/Morgaur). Yes. I (and others) e x p o s e d the OP. I am proud we did, whether for this game or any other. The OP wrote a misleading "impression" and "review" in bad faith, whose intent and purpose was to bash the game. I am fine with bashing the game, however, do not cloak it in "review" language that gives the impression of good faith objectivity, honesty, and fairness.
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WoW and fast food = commercial successes.
I neither play WoW nor eat fast food.
As several people here have mentioned, and Im quoting alot of them on this:
Post a link to 1 post, only 1 single post made by me, where I have created a "Dear Diary, I quit post". If you do this, then I might agree with you.
Your problem is that you cannot produce 1 single post to backup your claim. In other words you are just incredibly pathetic in your feeble attempts to discredit me.
So please before you post anything further about me, prove it!
I actually did just review, again, your post history. I am shocked by your obsession with this. I also looked at your alt's (Jhaerel) posts as well, and you are in the habit of always thanking people who 1) agree with you and/or 2) say something critical about me.
Prove it? All some one needs to do is really look at nearly any one of your posts to determine both what your 1) purpose and 2) intent are on the Vanguard forums. You are not here to "review" the game. You are here to bash it for personal reasons.
Exposed.
*Your 1) own words and 2) bumping of threads has proved this better than I could.
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WoW and fast food = commercial successes.
I neither play WoW nor eat fast food.
GU 3 is coming !
http://forums.station.sony.com/vg/posts/list.m?topic_id=23720
maybe we're saved now
Gonna try it
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ALLELUIA
A new Hope
Alot of "Drama" here I feel like I am looking at Kids version of Falcon Crest or Dallas.
Ok thats it: Blocked!
Now I dont have to respond to the sucker
I actually did just review, again, your post history. I am shocked by your obsession with this. I also looked at your alt's (Jhaerel) posts as well, and you are in the habit of always thanking people who 1) agree with you and/or 2) say something critical about me.
Prove it? All some one needs to do is really look at nearly any one of your posts to determine both what your 1) purpose and 2) intent are on the Vanguard forums. You are not here to "review" the game. You are here to bash it for personal reasons.
Exposed.
*Your 1) own words and 2) bumping of threads has proved this better than I could.
Oh, you're shocked...
Funny, i thought you were the one obsessing over the OP, seriously, you have done nothing more in this thread than to flame a poster who posted his views, discrediting him with statements such as "He can't handle a challenge" and "ZOMG, look at how he bumps posts, shaaaaame*"
This is low, and if this is how all elite members act, well... let's just say i expected a little more.
While we're at it, i think it may be in order for you to supply that link everyone is asking about, you just keep insisting on how he is the villain, now prove it (yes, i said it) Mr. Numbers.
For your comment on how the OP is just here to slander Vanguard (and other games too, but only Vanguard is relevant in this topic) excuse me, have you read what you have posted throughout the thread, you sir, are doing your very best to make the OP look as bad as you can, what does that make you? A hypocrite perhaps?
* Exaggerated for the pure nonsense that statement was
1. I am not "obsessing" at all about the OP or what he bumps. [In fact, I am having fun.]
2. His (a) own words and (b) bumping of threads shows his purpose and intent. I am not inventing, assuming, creating, or expanding anything beyond his own words, conduct, and history.
3. The link? It would be the unedited original post and nearly any other post in the OP's (or his alt's) history. His intent and purpose are apparent by his words and post history.
4. I am not trying to make the OP look bad. He makes himself look bad. In fact, he has called me names (please see above, calling me a "sucker").
5. I think it is a moot and settled issue. My premise is the same as it always has been. The OP's own words and bumping of threads shows that his purpose and intent was never to write an honest or fair "review" of Vanguard.
6. As an aside, I will not give a single inch on issues of good faith, honesty, and fairness. www.youtube.com/watch
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WoW and fast food = commercial successes.
I neither play WoW nor eat fast food.
1. No, following someone around and examining all the threads he has made, looking out for bumps and other minor things is not obsession... Riiiiight.
2. Do please try to look at your own words: "The OP becomes easily frustrated." "Dear Diary, I bought TR and quit. [Day Two] Dear Diary, I bought Vanguard and quit." "writing a "dear diary" vent on MMORPG and in the title claiming it is a "review." In my view, that is 1) dishonest and 2) misleading"
Shall i go on?
3. Please do link that please, i am sure that you've kept the "Unedited" post somewhere so you can prove your point.
4. See 2.
5. It wasn't portraited as a review though, the topic title clearly says "Impressions" on my screen.
6. I can post irrelevant youtube links too y'know www.youtube.com/watch
5. It was edited.
The OP's 1) own words, 2) post history, 3) bumping of threads, and 4) censoring my posts (please see the example linked above) make his purpose and intent apparent.
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WoW and fast food = commercial successes.
I neither play WoW nor eat fast food.
truenorth, as the basis for your criticism of the OP seems to stem from the idea that his post is a 'review', would you please direct me to the part in this thread where the OP labels it as such? I cannot for the life of me find it. An 'impression' is exactly that: an impression. Put simply, it's an opinion. Nothing more, nothing less. Simple. I agree with you about what a review is however. It implies a fair, learned, and unbiased description ( I also agree with your sig "Ron Paul 08", but thats off the topic). So far as I can tell, this thread is not, and never was, intended (or even labeled by the OP) as a review. Though I concede I have had the wrong impression (no pun intended) regarding the nature of posts before. So might you direct me to the point I obviously missed? I appreciate it.
Just discovered this post while I am downloading GU3... and it got me really laughing.
The OP describe a fairly well known place in TK where it is always difficult to go up even with levit. I must have been there 15 times and it's always a bit of a pain ... but doable .. never seen it as a bug ... They could always have run around the place ... oh well
The only thing I can say:
- VG is a nice and beautiful game, interesting for sure
- but buggy and a lots of areas are empty. (you can see it when you pay for flying mount or when you make screenshots: all my screens of VG are really NICE and BEAUTIFUL but i never see something living. Around New targonor, you'll see nothing living, some spiders around, and if you take a walk from tursh to NT you' ll encounter spiders (not dangerous at all never attacking) 1/2 snakes and that's all.
Downloaded the GU3, not a lot of differences between GU2 and GU3. Pet always buggy, lag, even with a good PC, holiday's event is fun but imo this game needs more improvement. Tried and tried and tried again but now gonna pay for something working: EQ2. Worst than bugs, i feel alone in this huge world, not even a mob... I prefer VG to EQ2 and Lotro, but i don't have another choice: i play or i dream about playing. My choice is Everquest II. (i'll never come back to lotro,never!)
Good luck to VG players. Can say i'm sad but nothing else to do.
Few people in a huge world... Saw so many empties areas near NT this evening, really it's sad. Port isn't living, town isn't living etc. of course can say NT is impressive and BEAUTIFUL but imo it's almost a ghost town. Can play with bugs (why not) but empty area... Not even a mob a char or something like that, a quest something ??? In EQ2 Queynos is a living town. mobs walks around, speak, etc. Thats imo the real drama of VG
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5. It was edited.
Date and time the first post was made
11/29/07 1:56:45 PM
Date and time it was last edited
11/29/07 2:02:49 PM (a couple minutes after it was posted)
Date and time TrueNorthBG starts calling this a "review"
11/30/07 3:00:27 PM (post #17 over a full day later)
I'm sure TNBG will have yet another excuse, but the fact remains he didn't change his accusations until the next day. Only after someone calls him out for pointing to the OP post history that doesn't exist.
Yeah and kinda odd the OP posted in another thread that they logged in last night and laughed at the status of the game where in this post they said they uninstalled it and was done with it.
Kinda uninstalled and reinstalls a lot. Ya know if ya hate the game why reinstall it?
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Promote what you love instead of bashing what you hate.
Ya does seem kinda odd i noticed that myself but i think alot of people that post pretend they play or pull the old i have a station pass trick. i would say 90% of the negative posters on this site havent played vanguard in over 8 months or more
Ya does seem kinda odd i noticed that myself but i think alot of people that post pretend they play or pull the old i have a station pass trick. i would say 90% of the negative posters on this site havent played vanguard in over 8 months or more
That's probably true, but you also have to remember that anyone who brushes over a game such as Vanguard with a "bad" or "good" post is probably not a reputable source in the first place.We should remember that everyone has their own thoughts of what makes a game good, and ultimately Vanguard -- like most major MMOs -- falls somewhere in the middle.
It has its strengths and its faults.
As far as strengths go; class selection and design is just superb. Innovative and most of all, fun.
And as for faults; the game is still working to overcome the stigma from launch and unfortunately that taste was bad enough to keep potential otherwise fair-minded people away. Not to mention, while the world is large and beautifully rendered, the character models are lackluster and awkward, as are many skill/spell animations.
Then again, as a veteran from several MMOs and specifically FFXI in this regard-- most spell/skill animations look shoddy in several games after Skill Chain animations of FFXI.
Vanguard is a niche game with many excellent reasons that appeal and just as many to repulse.
As for TK in VG that place is very buggy if you are a small race. I grouped with several people who got stuck in rocks or other things there. You know what, they got ropped, summoned, or /stuck and got summoned back into group. A minor inconvience and we're back on track. I don't experience it daily and to give up after ONE incident is beyond me, but I've grouped with people who will immediatly drop group without a word the moment they die.
Functional, not flawless.
I suspect the OP and I share a similarity. Vanguard appeals to the inner-EQ spirit deep inside me. I know the stove is hot. I know it is going to burn my hand when I touch it. I know I should wait for the red hot burning to cool down before touching it, but for some uncontrollable reason I simply must touch it.
Everyone has their breaking point when they really try to like something.
I can confirm that the game is now gone forever from my harddrive I was weak for a sec the other day and had to start it again hehe
EXCUSE ME?
I would HIGHLY recommend you simply shut your computer off, go find a grave, and lie in it until your life ends.
I am HARDLY the same person as the OP, and once again you are proving yourself to be a true idiot. And not to mention, checking my own posts requires you go no further than this very thread, because I have never posted anywhere else on this site.
Maybe you should check the signup dates on our accounts? How about that? I've been here since April 7th, 2005, reading many of the different forums here. So your claim that the OP would go and create another account just to fight with you does not hold water. Do you think that everyone on here that is posting against you is just one person? Does it pain you that much to know that several people think you are wrong? "Woah! This can't be possible! They must all be the same person!"
Grow up.
Jh.
EXCUSE ME?
I would HIGHLY recommend you simply shut your computer off, go find a grave, and lie in it until your life ends.
I am HARDLY the same person as the OP, and once again you are proving yourself to be a true idiot. And not to mention, checking my own posts requires you go no further than this very thread, because I have never posted anywhere else on this site.
Maybe you should check the signup dates on our accounts? How about that? I've been here since April 7th, 2005, reading many of the different forums here. So your claim that the OP would go and create another account just to fight with you does not hold water. Do you think that everyone on here that is posting against you is just one person? Does it pain you that much to know that several people think you are wrong? "Woah! This can't be possible! They must all be the same person!"
Grow up.
Jh.
I bet Im an alt of the OP too. everyone in the world agrees with truenorthbg except us 3.. me, myself and I.
Watch your thoughts; they become words.
Watch your words; they become actions.
Watch your actions; they become habits.
Watch your habits; they become character.
Watch your character; it becomes your destiny.
Lao-Tze
I too find it amazing what lengths he will go through to discredit the person saying something and not debate what the person is saying.
truenorthbg should be commended for his steadfastness. He could go far in this world with the proper guidance.
trunorthbg, please apply to FOX news ASAP!
TORT REFORM: I am in favor of "settlement panels". Easy for the judge to look at a "best practice" settlement per offense. Who needs litigation when we can save time and money by cutting out the middle man through "comparative effectiveness"?
This thread is great. It is like reliving the good old days when people actually thought VG would be a good game and it had it's 15 minutes of fame. We just need a quick peak from Jackdog to bring it back fully.