I'm pretty sure we won't see a DF release this year, beta would be about the best we can hope for.
Speaking of hope, why post on an alternate account OP? You certainly didn't just wake up today and decide, gee, I think I'll create a user name like this and go post on the DF forums?
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The game that just wont go away,If and I did say If you get a beta in 2008 then you have already surpassed my hopes for this title now..
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
Not a chance in 2008. Matter of fact, I think the Darkfall Online devs are too busy beta testing AoC atm and once their F2P beta test is over (you know, market research) and AoC launches, they'll either sell Darkfall Online to SoE or shut the project down. March 25, 2008 is next quarter so we'll know soon if I'm right or wrong.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
see you expect the worse i dont know why if its stable as they say and been tested has good as they been saying 2008 release is possible but i think beta before AOc that way people have a chance to see what one is better
Not a chance in 2008. Matter of fact, I think the Darkfall Online devs are too busy beta testing AoC atm and once their F2P beta test is over (you know, market research) and AoC launches, they'll either sell Darkfall Online to SoE or shut the project down. March 25, 2008 is next quarter so we'll know soon if I'm right or wrong.
I'm sorry but wtf are you on? Firstly I find the odds of this extremely low. Secondly I still doubt that it would release based soley on what I've heard about it so far.(Unless of course they want an unfinished release like most nowadays). If they miss this date this will be their 6th missed one.
Not a chance in 2008. Matter of fact, I think the Darkfall Online devs are too busy beta testing AoC atm and once their F2P beta test is over (you know, market research) and AoC launches, they'll either sell Darkfall Online to SoE or shut the project down. March 25, 2008 is next quarter so we'll know soon if I'm right or wrong.
I'm sorry but wtf are you on? Firstly I find the odds of this extremely low. Secondly I still doubt that it would release based soley on what I've heard about it so far.(Unless of course they want an unfinished release like most nowadays). If they miss this date this will be their 6th missed one.
Sorry, to clear things up. I believe the Darkfall Online devs are in AoC or WAR beta test atm doing market research for Darkfall Online, i.e. looking for cool features to add to their own game. I don't believe Darkfall Online will release within the next 24 months. If it releases at all, it won't be released by the current company but SoE (or some other development house) because Aventurine will have defaulted on their 25 million dollar loan by then.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
Not a chance in 2008. Matter of fact, I think the Darkfall Online devs are too busy beta testing AoC atm and once their F2P beta test is over (you know, market research) and AoC launches, they'll either sell Darkfall Online to SoE or shut the project down. March 25, 2008 is next quarter so we'll know soon if I'm right or wrong.
I'm sorry but wtf are you on? Firstly I find the odds of this extremely low. Secondly I still doubt that it would release based soley on what I've heard about it so far.(Unless of course they want an unfinished release like most nowadays). If they miss this date this will be their 6th missed one.
Sorry, to clear things up. I believe the Darkfall Online devs are in AoC or WAR beta test atm doing market research for Darkfall Online, i.e. looking for cool features to add to their own game. I don't believe Darkfall Online will release within the next 24 months. If it releases at all, it won't be released by the current company but SoE (or some other development house) because Aventurine will have defaulted on their 25 million dollar loan by then.
That is a possibility but that doesnt mean its likely. I don't believe a company would waste almost 4 years of their life from a simple loan. DF does have wealthy financial investors such as the 60 million kronor(I believe that was the currency) that he said he gave to DF. I don't know what they spent it on and no one can even come close to a good guess since it could've been spent on the business side of things or directly on the game itself or something inbetween.
Of course the question that will pop up will be "If they have financial investors why would they need a loan?". If they need that large amount of money at once and their investors doesnt give them enough money at the time then they take the rest out on a loan and slowly pay it back as time goes on from the money from the investors(or other work they do).
If that was swedish kronor it would amount to roughly 9 million US dollars. Could also be norweigian I suppose or maybe danish (or do you have the euro?).
Anyway it is a good amount of money but not what it takes to make an mmo, but together with that bankloan they are on par with Vanguard dev. costs. Will be interesting to see what they can make with that amount of money.
We will see a release of this game, the only question is which condition it will be in when it releases and if it contains all the features they have promised.
Remenber that they moved to greece because they would cut all costs to a third of what it would have cost in Norway. That must have been a very smart move. Hollywood are doing the same thing with movie productions today.
Not to offend any greeks, but Norway is a more organized society as a whole. So a good move if they keep working with norwegian efficiancy but at greek costs
HopeFades Hopefades, sorry but I do not agree with the OP, we would all like for a speedy release of Darkfall but we can't all get what we want. The idea that this company or any with a backbone would need top goto somne of the current development is laughable. Why would I say this well most of the new development ad zero to the genre.
Feature heavy games are destroying the genre, simple well designed with content and good old common sense and gameplay is a category I see Darkfall falling into. Harking back to UO/AC1 as more of a benchmark.
This may take time but we all have that don't we...
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sorry but I still don't blieve they have wealthy investors or got millions of cash from a bank..
You see but no one cares what you BELIEVE but they say and there has been some evidence of them connected to others. Like tasos being affiliated with jaco limited.
from what we know is they sold them to the bank = loan
sorry but no one "knows" anything.. That's the point and actually the entire problem with darkfall and everything associated with it.. lack of anything definitive.....all the time everytime..
lol this is funny. That jaco limited is just some BS website that was registered and is owned by Tasos probably trying to start up some other BS company/business overseas.. It lists the exact same phone and address that Aventurine uses. It's even hosted on the exact same servers as razorwax , darkfall and aventurine websites are.
lol this is funny. That jaco limited is just some BS website that was registered and is owned by Tasos probably trying to start up some other BS company/business overseas.. It lists the exact same phone and address that Aventurine uses. It's even hosted on the exact same servers as razorwax , darkfall and aventurine websites are.
So they are affiliated with it. Hope you like to through what you think around as a fact but the only fact is here is that Aventurine is affilited with Jaco limited and since you don't know anything about the site don't throw around you opinion as facts.
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I sure hope so. Been keeping an eye on this one for quite a while. Shows much promise.
I'm pretty sure we won't see a DF release this year, beta would be about the best we can hope for.
Speaking of hope, why post on an alternate account OP? You certainly didn't just wake up today and decide, gee, I think I'll create a user name like this and go post on the DF forums?
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The game that just wont go away,If and I did say If you get a beta in 2008 then you have already surpassed my hopes for this title now..
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8
beta probly wont happen this year but more like Q1 of 2008 the game will be fine as long as it gets to beta before AOC launches
and is stable , contains all the features promised , etc etc...
Pretty tall order if you ask me considering what we have seen and know (or don't know and have not seen) from DF to date..
I don't see how on earth DF can launch before AoC. That would be almost like a miracle. They don't even have a Publisher yet.
Not a chance in 2008. Matter of fact, I think the Darkfall Online devs are too busy beta testing AoC atm and once their F2P beta test is over (you know, market research) and AoC launches, they'll either sell Darkfall Online to SoE or shut the project down. March 25, 2008 is next quarter so we'll know soon if I'm right or wrong.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
see you expect the worse i dont know why if its stable as they say and been tested has good as they been saying 2008 release is possible but i think beta before AOc that way people have a chance to see what one is better
Talk is cheap
Since they claim the publisher is the last road bump, i would hope for a beta in 2008...and even a release?
And in the last update (#18) we got to know there might be different publishers for EU and US.
and is stable , contains all the features promised , etc etc...
Pretty tall order if you ask me considering what we have seen and know (or don't know and have not seen) from DF to date..
I don't see how on earth DF can launch before AoC. That would be almost like a miracle. They don't even have a Publisher yet.
Not everything is shown in DF but then again most games show most of their unique features because gameplay is quite similar to other games.
They do have a publisher its aventurine.
I'm sorry but wtf are you on? Firstly I find the odds of this extremely low. Secondly I still doubt that it would release based soley on what I've heard about it so far.(Unless of course they want an unfinished release like most nowadays). If they miss this date this will be their 6th missed one.
I'm sorry but wtf are you on? Firstly I find the odds of this extremely low. Secondly I still doubt that it would release based soley on what I've heard about it so far.(Unless of course they want an unfinished release like most nowadays). If they miss this date this will be their 6th missed one.
Sorry, to clear things up. I believe the Darkfall Online devs are in AoC or WAR beta test atm doing market research for Darkfall Online, i.e. looking for cool features to add to their own game. I don't believe Darkfall Online will release within the next 24 months. If it releases at all, it won't be released by the current company but SoE (or some other development house) because Aventurine will have defaulted on their 25 million dollar loan by then.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
I'm sorry but wtf are you on? Firstly I find the odds of this extremely low. Secondly I still doubt that it would release based soley on what I've heard about it so far.(Unless of course they want an unfinished release like most nowadays). If they miss this date this will be their 6th missed one.
Sorry, to clear things up. I believe the Darkfall Online devs are in AoC or WAR beta test atm doing market research for Darkfall Online, i.e. looking for cool features to add to their own game. I don't believe Darkfall Online will release within the next 24 months. If it releases at all, it won't be released by the current company but SoE (or some other development house) because Aventurine will have defaulted on their 25 million dollar loan by then.
That is a possibility but that doesnt mean its likely. I don't believe a company would waste almost 4 years of their life from a simple loan. DF does have wealthy financial investors such as the 60 million kronor(I believe that was the currency) that he said he gave to DF. I don't know what they spent it on and no one can even come close to a good guess since it could've been spent on the business side of things or directly on the game itself or something inbetween.
Of course the question that will pop up will be "If they have financial investors why would they need a loan?". If they need that large amount of money at once and their investors doesnt give them enough money at the time then they take the rest out on a loan and slowly pay it back as time goes on from the money from the investors(or other work they do).
sorry but I still don't blieve they have wealthy investors or got millions of cash from a bank..
then you might as well go away then beacuse anything they proove you will still call them liers like you just did
If that was swedish kronor it would amount to roughly 9 million US dollars. Could also be norweigian I suppose or maybe danish (or do you have the euro?).
Anyway it is a good amount of money but not what it takes to make an mmo, but together with that bankloan they are on par with Vanguard dev. costs. Will be interesting to see what they can make with that amount of money.
We will see a release of this game, the only question is which condition it will be in when it releases and if it contains all the features they have promised.
Remenber that they moved to greece because they would cut all costs to a third of what it would have cost in Norway.
That must have been a very smart move.
Hollywood are doing the same thing with movie productions today.
They didn't get a bank loan.. they tried selling convertible bonds through that bank.
Not to offend any greeks, but Norway is a more organized society as a whole. So a good move if they keep working with norwegian efficiancy but at greek costs
HopeFades Hopefades, sorry but I do not agree with the OP, we would all like for a speedy release of Darkfall but we can't all get what we want. The idea that this company or any with a backbone would need top goto somne of the current development is laughable. Why would I say this well most of the new development ad zero to the genre.
Feature heavy games are destroying the genre, simple well designed with content and good old common sense and gameplay is a category I see Darkfall falling into. Harking back to UO/AC1 as more of a benchmark.
This may take time but we all have that don't we...
________________________________________________________
Sorcery must persist, the future is the Citadel
You see but no one cares what you BELIEVE but they say and there has been some evidence of them connected to others. Like tasos being affiliated with jaco limited.
sorry but no one "knows" anything.. That's the point and actually the entire problem with darkfall and everything associated with it.. lack of anything definitive.....all the time everytime..
lol this is funny. That jaco limited is just some BS website that was registered and is owned by Tasos probably trying to start up some other BS company/business overseas.. It lists the exact same phone and address that Aventurine uses. It's even hosted on the exact same servers as razorwax , darkfall and aventurine websites are.
Stop telling me about the labor and show me the baby already!
lol this is funny. That jaco limited is just some BS website that was registered and is owned by Tasos probably trying to start up some other BS company/business overseas.. It lists the exact same phone and address that Aventurine uses. It's even hosted on the exact same servers as razorwax , darkfall and aventurine websites are.
So they are affiliated with it. Hope you like to through what you think around as a fact but the only fact is here is that Aventurine is affilited with Jaco limited and since you don't know anything about the site don't throw around you opinion as facts.