I'm personally waiting to see if they announce any firings. If they don't it's a huge corporate mistake. At a minimum, they need to fire the programmer who thought it was a good idea to name a file after a critical Windows file. They also need to fire whoever leads the QA group. It was inexcusable for them to miss this, especially since there were supposed posts saying this was happening on Singularity. The fanbois can apologize for CCP all they want, but at the end of the day, this was a huge error on CCP's behalf and in the grown up world people get fired for doing things like this.
They're not going to fire someone for naming a file boot.ini
Hate to break this to you but windows has thousands of files. Many of which are 'os breaking' if they're deleted. Naming a file 'boot.ini' is really not a big deal. The only person who COULD be fired is the QA person who was responsible to make sure all checks were made on the patch before it was released. Boot.ini has been part of the EVE application since the game was in beta. It's never caused a problem before now because they've never monkeyed with the loader before. Even when they did a total engine revamp it never caused a problem.
I'm not positive but I don't ever recall any posts about this happening on singularity. I'm not a fanboi and I am pissed about this but if you're going to call for people to be fired you better have some facts and not just hearsay. Post links to the posts you are referring to please.
Just an FYI: You can't fire someone for naming a file something over 5 years ago.
"One thing I noticed yesterday was that the content upgrade install blew away C:oot.ini. I'm sure that the intention is to actually delete <EVE Install Folder>oot.ini. Might need to fix that! "
There were more, but I'm not going through those 70 pages again.
Be glad you don't work for my company then. Something like this would be termination on the spot. This caused harm to people.
Thats board that they refer to is the most un-read board by devs if I had my guess... It is the KNOWN issues board/workarounds if its being posted in there they should have already been informed about it by you... except everyone who has so far come forward with the "This happened to me with the SISI installer as well!!!" comment usually 2-3 pages down after the constant question will say they either didn't connect it at the time or if they did make the connection did NOT bug report it or post it in the Game development Board. So the fact that people found a problem on SISI which is what its there for is great give them a prize. If they didn't do anything to tell CCP about the bugs they found give me that prize back and tell them to STFU. I mean the second sticky on the Game Development forums which is where you should be reading if your going on SISI is on how to create bug reports.
I'm personally waiting to see if they announce any firings. If they don't it's a huge corporate mistake. At a minimum, they need to fire the programmer who thought it was a good idea to name a file after a critical Windows file. They also need to fire whoever leads the QA group. It was inexcusable for them to miss this, especially since there were supposed posts saying this was happening on Singularity. The fanbois can apologize for CCP all they want, but at the end of the day, this was a huge error on CCP's behalf and in the grown up world people get fired for doing things like this.
They're not going to fire someone for naming a file boot.ini
Hate to break this to you but windows has thousands of files. Many of which are 'os breaking' if they're deleted. Naming a file 'boot.ini' is really not a big deal. The only person who COULD be fired is the QA person who was responsible to make sure all checks were made on the patch before it was released. Boot.ini has been part of the EVE application since the game was in beta. It's never caused a problem before now because they've never monkeyed with the loader before. Even when they did a total engine revamp it never caused a problem.
I'm not positive but I don't ever recall any posts about this happening on singularity. I'm not a fanboi and I am pissed about this but if you're going to call for people to be fired you better have some facts and not just hearsay. Post links to the posts you are referring to please.
Just an FYI: You can't fire someone for naming a file something over 5 years ago.
"One thing I noticed yesterday was that the content upgrade install blew away C:oot.ini. I'm sure that the intention is to actually delete <EVE Install Folder>oot.ini. Might need to fix that! "
There were more, but I'm not going through those 70 pages again.
Be glad you don't work for my company then. Something like this would be termination on the spot. This caused harm to people.
No they'd fire the QA person who missed it in the first place, not the person who chose to name a random file boot.ini. As I said: The only person who's head should be on the chopping block right now is a QA guy for missing this, especially given that the bug was reported before the patch was released. Thanks for the link by the way.
"A ship-of-war is the best ambassador." - Oliver Cromwell
However a lot of us "fanbois" are doing horrible things like telling people exactly what happened, what specifically is required for it to happen, explaining what can be done to fix it, as well as suggestions on where to go if you can't fix it to get it repaired for free or cheaply.
If you want to flip out reformat your entire drive as a first resort or not bother to look in a phone book for 5 minutes to call around to the local computer repair shops that are drastically cheaper(again often free in this case) then the mega store "geek squad" extortionist; we'll I'm sorry if I don't feel a lot of sympathy for you.
It's amazing how much you can you don't know about the every day user. I'll use my dad for example. He knows next to nothing about computers. My younger brother used to play this game. Now say he had the boot.ini deleted on my dad's computer, not knowing of course, played for a bit and went back to my mom's place.
Now my dad starts the computer, it doesn't work. He doesn't know why it doesn't work, he doesn't know how badly it doesn;t work, he knows nothing. He isn't going to call a computer store he's never heard of who might have to talk him through it. Who he doesn't know. No he would take it right back to best buy, where he bought it. He would get them to look at it, and he would pay the fee, oblivious to how easy it was to actually fix. The worst part of it all, he would never know why it did that in the first place.
When things are "seriously" wrong, they go to who they trust. My dad for example is a doctor, he has countless people come in over a simple cold. They could look online, they could call a pharmacy, but they aren't sure what is wrong, they don't want to make it worse, they want my dad to check their temperature, and everything, they don't want to self diagnose themselves, they want it checked by an expert.
People are not computer savvy, when something is wrong with their computer they panic. Most people need their computer, but know nothing about it. They only use what programs they know. Anything outside that is pretty alien to them. And if something goes wrong they will pay any price to make sure their documents are not lost. But many people also let their kids use the computer to play games, what harm can it do, right?
i see other "things" happening to ccp over this. the first will be the explaining. the support from the rabid eve community is laudatory, but misplaced, they will face a fine for this one. be good.
can you smell that?!!...............there is nothing quite like it.....................the smell of troll in the morning............i love that smell.
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They're not going to fire someone for naming a file boot.ini
Hate to break this to you but windows has thousands of files. Many of which are 'os breaking' if they're deleted. Naming a file 'boot.ini' is really not a big deal. The only person who COULD be fired is the QA person who was responsible to make sure all checks were made on the patch before it was released. Boot.ini has been part of the EVE application since the game was in beta. It's never caused a problem before now because they've never monkeyed with the loader before. Even when they did a total engine revamp it never caused a problem.
I'm not positive but I don't ever recall any posts about this happening on singularity. I'm not a fanboi and I am pissed about this but if you're going to call for people to be fired you better have some facts and not just hearsay. Post links to the posts you are referring to please.
Just an FYI: You can't fire someone for naming a file something over 5 years ago.
Link ,8th post in thread, which was posted on December 3... http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=648131&page=1#8
There were more, but I'm not going through those 70 pages again.
Be glad you don't work for my company then. Something like this would be termination on the spot. This caused harm to people.
i keep this (sarcasm)
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Thats board that they refer to is the most un-read board by devs if I had my guess... It is the KNOWN issues board/workarounds if its being posted in there they should have already been informed about it by you... except everyone who has so far come forward with the "This happened to me with the SISI installer as well!!!" comment usually 2-3 pages down after the constant question will say they either didn't connect it at the time or if they did make the connection did NOT bug report it or post it in the Game development Board. So the fact that people found a problem on SISI which is what its there for is great give them a prize. If they didn't do anything to tell CCP about the bugs they found give me that prize back and tell them to STFU. I mean the second sticky on the Game Development forums which is where you should be reading if your going on SISI is on how to create bug reports.
They're not going to fire someone for naming a file boot.ini
Hate to break this to you but windows has thousands of files. Many of which are 'os breaking' if they're deleted. Naming a file 'boot.ini' is really not a big deal. The only person who COULD be fired is the QA person who was responsible to make sure all checks were made on the patch before it was released. Boot.ini has been part of the EVE application since the game was in beta. It's never caused a problem before now because they've never monkeyed with the loader before. Even when they did a total engine revamp it never caused a problem.
I'm not positive but I don't ever recall any posts about this happening on singularity. I'm not a fanboi and I am pissed about this but if you're going to call for people to be fired you better have some facts and not just hearsay. Post links to the posts you are referring to please.
Just an FYI: You can't fire someone for naming a file something over 5 years ago.
Link ,8th post in thread, which was posted on December 3... http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=648131&page=1#8
There were more, but I'm not going through those 70 pages again.
Be glad you don't work for my company then. Something like this would be termination on the spot. This caused harm to people.
No they'd fire the QA person who missed it in the first place, not the person who chose to name a random file boot.ini. As I said: The only person who's head should be on the chopping block right now is a QA guy for missing this, especially given that the bug was reported before the patch was released. Thanks for the link by the way.
"A ship-of-war is the best ambassador." - Oliver Cromwell
Nicoli is true i never tested trinity and dont see that post
but on the other hand if a caompany expect that the customer find bug go bad
that happen on open source world . . . . and wee still pay to play eve
ccp can give now to all the ppl 30 free days xmas time etc and ppl will be happy
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Had to post this....At this very moment their are 36,000 people happily playing EVE....lol....There will be a new record by the end of the week.
It's amazing how much you can you don't know about the every day user. I'll use my dad for example. He knows next to nothing about computers. My younger brother used to play this game. Now say he had the boot.ini deleted on my dad's computer, not knowing of course, played for a bit and went back to my mom's place.
Now my dad starts the computer, it doesn't work. He doesn't know why it doesn't work, he doesn't know how badly it doesn;t work, he knows nothing. He isn't going to call a computer store he's never heard of who might have to talk him through it. Who he doesn't know. No he would take it right back to best buy, where he bought it. He would get them to look at it, and he would pay the fee, oblivious to how easy it was to actually fix. The worst part of it all, he would never know why it did that in the first place.
When things are "seriously" wrong, they go to who they trust. My dad for example is a doctor, he has countless people come in over a simple cold. They could look online, they could call a pharmacy, but they aren't sure what is wrong, they don't want to make it worse, they want my dad to check their temperature, and everything, they don't want to self diagnose themselves, they want it checked by an expert.
People are not computer savvy, when something is wrong with their computer they panic. Most people need their computer, but know nothing about it. They only use what programs they know. Anything outside that is pretty alien to them. And if something goes wrong they will pay any price to make sure their documents are not lost. But many people also let their kids use the computer to play games, what harm can it do, right?
I had no issues, i run xp pro
i see other "things" happening to ccp over this. the first will be the explaining. the support from the rabid eve community is laudatory, but misplaced, they will face a fine for this one. be good.
can you smell that?!!...............there is nothing quite like it.....................the smell of troll in the morning............i love that smell.
thx CCP not to much but something is something
this will raise my eve fanboy skill :DD
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