Honestly, i cant argue with that, thats just how you feel so fair enough, i just base my decision on what i read on the swg forums and the set of devs working on the game now which i have much more faith in; DeadMeat the lead developer has categorically said they do not want to change any major game systems, just add new content and new features. Though you could argue validly that he is not to be trusted due to the mistrust created by smed.
I actually looked at the OP date because I thought I was seeing a necro....that it was the announcement of RLMMO.com... My oh my, some things never change...
If people were able to just take off their rose-tinted glasses they may be able to see that swg is pretty damn good game thats improving and still offers many things wihich no other game out there does (aside from being a SW mmo)
I took off my rose-tinted glasses and hit the cancel button.
I held on because it was Star Wars. But after 90% of my friends left the game (because the NGE is not getting better, just more craptastic collections and copy/paste quests), well - if it smells like poo, it probably is poo, so unless you want dysentery it's time to leave.
3rd time lucky? DeadMeat the lead developer has categorically said they do not want to change any major game systems, just add new content and new features. Though you could argue validly that he is not to be trusted due to the mistrust created by smed.
It's not so much about the mistrust Smed created but rather Deadmeat wont be there forever. What happens when someone else takes over as lead-developer, or someone takes over when Smed is gone?
If people were able to just take off their rose-tinted glasses they may be able to see that swg is pretty damn good game thats improving and still offers many things wihich no other game out there does (aside from being a SW mmo)
I took off my rose-tinted glasses and hit the cancel button.
I held on because it was Star Wars. But after 90% of my friends left the game (because the NGE is not getting better, just more craptastic collections and copy/paste quests), well - if it smells like poo, it probably is poo, so unless you want dysentery it's time to leave.
When the game needed content, the developers focused on changing the game mechanics. Now that the game mechanics are what is wrong with the game, they have decided to focus on adding content, as far as million HP MOBs and asinine kill 500 kreetles collections can be considered content.
The game is currently the least fun MMO on the market. Without a complete overhaul of the game, it will remain that way. The combat system is horrendous, character movement is rediculous, and even the folks who like the current mess of a game will recomend you download unauthorized third-party UI mods and spend an hour changing UI settings to make the game semi-playable.
The only thing the game has going for it is the Star Wars IP. That is the only reason there is a handful of players left.
3rd time lucky? DeadMeat the lead developer has categorically said they do not want to change any major game systems, just add new content and new features. Though you could argue validly that he is not to be trusted due to the mistrust created by smed.
It's not so much about the mistrust Smed created but rather Deadmeat wont be there forever. What happens when someone else takes over as lead-developer, or someone takes over when Smed is gone?
Deadmeat is the SOE Producer, toilet boy is the Lead Designer. SWG will be gone long before the Smed is. He is the head of a division of a company with a business model of funding several projects that lose money by making one the earns a huge profit. There is a very good possibility of some changes in senior management at SOE after the DC Comics MMO flops, but I highly doubt the Smed will be in any danger of being one of the changes. He'll be around to make bad decisions and damage SOE's reputation for many years to come.
Originally posted by saay 3rd time lucky? Honestly, i cant argue with that, thats just how you feel so fair enough, i just base my decision on what i read on the swg forums and the set of devs working on the game now which i have much more faith in; DeadMeat the lead developer has categorically said they do not want to change any major game systems, just add new content and new features. Though you could argue validly that he is not to be trusted due to the mistrust created by smed.
This isn't just how I feel, the Smedsternator himself had said this "The CU is here to stay" himself, heck it was posted on the forums as well (since you're mentioning you're going by what is said in the forums) when he decided to "address" the concerns over the CU. So if you can't even trust the bloody forums to tell you the accurate information. Then why should I take it seriously when, yet another person says they won't change the game mechanics? to me it sounds like "The NGE is here to stay! we swear it this time! really, no seriously, we mean it! hey don't go away! We know it's a buggy POS, but It'll be fun I promise!" Sorry, I just don't buy it.
The way to head this off? I'm sure a lawsuit will do just fine
Lawsuit wouldn't do anything here, it'd be thrown out almost immediately on the grounds there is "no basis."
Unfortunately, by American rules, SOE's done everything right and covered all their bases. The masses are SOL. There are much worse (though similar) cases in RL that are defended as such. Bottom line is if you sign a contract (ie pay the monthly charges and click accept on the EULA each time you play), you're leaving the possibility for taking it up the ass.
I like the idea though, "slander" sites themselves usually rile up a few feathers and result in lots of libel threats. So much for free speech.
-- xpaladin
[MMOz] AC1/2, AO, DAoC, EQ1/2, SoR, SWG, UO, WAR, WoW
I'm as angry at SOE as anyone for mucking up what was the best MMORPG out there, but the OP is frankly pathetic and a tad sociapathic themselves
I'm not going to say forget NGE because I don't want to either. SOEs behaviour on games like EQ2 (the moves from Test etc) is beginning to remind me of their behaviour on SWG before the NGE and so I've decided to take a break from that game, but at least we can keep our dignity and self-respect at least.
The way to head this off? I'm sure a lawsuit will do just fine
Lawsuit wouldn't do anything here, it'd be thrown out almost immediately on the grounds there is "no basis."
Unfortunately, by American rules, SOE's done everything right and covered all their bases. The masses are SOL. There are much worse (though similar) cases in RL that are defended as such. Bottom line is if you sign a contract (ie pay the monthly charges and click accept on the EULA each time you play), you're leaving the possibility for taking it up the ass.
I like the idea though, "slander" sites themselves usually rile up a few feathers and result in lots of libel threats. So much for free speech.
I'm actually surprised that there wasn't a class action suit filed over the NGE, on behalf of the folks who had paid for multiple months in advance before the changes were announced. EA was sued over the state UO was launched in (bugs and so forth) and they settled the suit by donating several thousand dollars to museum (I think it was a museum). The folks who paid for several months based on the pre-NGE version of the game would have had a decent case, which would at the very least led to them receiving refunds, especially with the bait and switch that was done with the ToOW expansion as an example of bad faith on LEC/SOE's behalf.
EULAs haven't been tested in court yet, and many legal experts don't think they would hold up. There is always the possibility that they will.
The potential website in the original post is pretty much a non-factor. The folks at SOE aren't going to become less hostile towards their customers over it. If they are unwilling to not be douche bags to increase their income, they aren't going to do it to prevent a website from documenting their douche bagitude.
Deadmeat is the SOE Producer, toilet boy is the Lead Designer. SWG will be gone long before the Smed is. He is the head of a division of a company with a business model of funding several projects that lose money by making one the earns a huge profit. There is a very good possibility of some changes in senior management at SOE after the DC Comics MMO flops, but I highly doubt the Smed will be in any danger of being one of the changes. He'll be around to make bad decisions and damage SOE's reputation for many years to come.
I dunno, I can see Smed leaving SOE either just before or just after the release of The Agency.
He's been with SOE quite a while, and he must know that his career may be seen as stagnant within the industry. I believe that by leaving SOE near the release of the Agency (or just after) then he can escape the critisism if it fails or be seen as an industy leader if it is successful.
I suspect we'll see him as a CEO again, but in something other then MMO's. Perhaps even in the industry he's bringing to us through games like the Agency.
I'm actually surprised that there wasn't a class action suit filed over the NGE, on behalf of the folks who had paid for multiple months in advance before the changes were announced. EA was sued over the state UO was launched in (bugs and so forth) and they settled the suit by donating several thousand dollars to museum (I think it was a museum). The folks who paid for several months based on the pre-NGE version of the game would have had a decent case, which would at the very least led to them receiving refunds, especially with the bait and switch that was done with the ToOW expansion as an example of bad faith on LEC/SOE's behalf. EULAs haven't been tested in court yet, and many legal experts don't think they would hold up. There is always the possibility that they will. The potential website in the original post is pretty much a non-factor. The folks at SOE aren't going to become less hostile towards their customers over it. If they are unwilling to not be douche bags to increase their income, they aren't going to do it to prevent a website from documenting their douche bagitude.
There was a lot of noise about starting class actions, mostly by hyperactive children and persons more concerned about screeching "OMG!! SWG IS TEH SUX" than taking a calm, intelligent approach and presenting a coherent argument to SOE. Simply writing a letter to SOE requesting a refund based on the extensive game changes as opposed to the state of the game when purchased worked very well for me. I received nearly a full year refund. Many others also got refunds by simply asking.
It probably didn't hurt I added my state's attorney general's office on the CC line.
Point is, those who took an intelligent approach got what was due to them. Those who got screwed were the loudmouth whinebags who simply could not settle down enough to think clearly - or listen to those of us telling them what to do. A class action suit would have been thrown out because SOE was giving refunds to those who asked.
Deadmeat is the SOE Producer, toilet boy is the Lead Designer. SWG will be gone long before the Smed is. He is the head of a division of a company with a business model of funding several projects that lose money by making one the earns a huge profit. There is a very good possibility of some changes in senior management at SOE after the DC Comics MMO flops, but I highly doubt the Smed will be in any danger of being one of the changes. He'll be around to make bad decisions and damage SOE's reputation for many years to come.
I dunno, I can see Smed leaving SOE either just before or just after the release of The Agency.
He's been with SOE quite a while, and he must know that his career may be seen as stagnant within the industry. I believe that by leaving SOE near the release of the Agency (or just after) then he can escape the critisism if it fails or be seen as an industy leader if it is successful.
I suspect we'll see him as a CEO again, but in something other then MMO's. Perhaps even in the industry he's bringing to us through games like the Agency.
The Agency is an experiment for SOE to see if they can make enough money through RMT the compete with their traditional pay per month MMOs. The DC Comics MMO is the game they are banking on being their flagship MMO. It is important enough that development is being micromanaged by the folks in San Diego, to the extent that they have had at least two lead designers, at least one senior producer, and a large chunk of the development staff quit the company. That is why they promoted Helios and Rogue_5 to being lead designer and senior producer of the game, which had been in development for well over a year at that point. The Smed and his cronies think the DCU game is going to be the game that they can finally peel away the WoW masses with. The Smed won't even think of leaving the company prior to DCUO's release. I doubt he will think about it then, but rather rationalize reasons why the game flopped and move on to EQ3.
I'm really torn between wanting SOE to do some major house cleaning and becoming a company I'd be willing to be a customer of again, and the fact that if they did do a house cleaning, it would just spread SOE's disfunction and hostility towards customers to other companies that hire the former SOE employees. Green Monster Games has already done a good job of hiring away everyone from SOE who isn't a complete douche bag. The folks who are left are at least contained to a single company and limited in the amount of damage they can potentially do to the industry as a whole.
Secondly, John Smedley must resign. (he can stay only if he releases a YouTube video singing the Calvin and Hobbes "I'm sorry" song) Otherwise he has to go.
If people were able to just take off their rose-tinted glasses they may be able to see that swg is pretty damn good game thats improving and still offers many things wihich no other game out there does (aside from being a SW mmo)
I took off my rose-tinted glasses and hit the cancel button.
I held on because it was Star Wars. But after 90% of my friends left the game (because the NGE is not getting better, just more craptastic collections and copy/paste quests), well - if it smells like poo, it probably is poo, so unless you want dysentery it's time to leave.
When the game needed content, the developers focused on changing the game mechanics. Now that the game mechanics are what is wrong with the game, they have decided to focus on adding content, as far as million HP MOBs and asinine kill 500 kreetles collections can be considered content.
The game is currently the least fun MMO on the market. Without a complete overhaul of the game, it will remain that way. The combat system is horrendous, character movement is rediculous, and even the folks who like the current mess of a game will recomend you download unauthorized third-party UI mods and spend an hour changing UI settings to make the game semi-playable.
The only thing the game has going for it is the Star Wars IP. That is the only reason there is a handful of players left.
amen brother, amen...
I defently couldnt say it better, nothing more to add on this one...
The Agency is an experiment for SOE to see if they can make enough money through RMT the compete with their traditional pay per month MMOs. The DC Comics MMO is the game they are banking on being their flagship MMO. It is important enough that development is being micromanaged by the folks in San Diego, to the extent that they have had at least two lead designers, at least one senior producer, and a large chunk of the development staff quit the company. That is why they promoted Helios and Rogue_5 to being lead designer and senior producer of the game, which had been in development for well over a year at that point. The Smed and his cronies think the DCU game is going to be the game that they can finally peel away the WoW masses with. The Smed won't even think of leaving the company prior to DCUO's release. I doubt he will think about it then, but rather rationalize reasons why the game flopped and move on to EQ3. I'm really torn between wanting SOE to do some major house cleaning and becoming a company I'd be willing to be a customer of again, and the fact that if they did do a house cleaning, it would just spread SOE's disfunction and hostility towards customers to other companies that hire the former SOE employees. Green Monster Games has already done a good job of hiring away everyone from SOE who isn't a complete douche bag. The folks who are left are at least contained to a single company and limited in the amount of damage they can potentially do to the industry as a whole.
Is there an approximate estimate when that DC Comics MMO should be out?
- 135.000.000 $ (estimated loss of dollar at least )
and every month the loss is bigger , i like this ultimatum
hurry , hurry $OE satisfy my needs starting with the very low and basic and bold ones
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Only way it would work is if maybe we had evidence Smed used performance enhancing steroids. But since we know how he performed during the precu, cu, nge transition, I am doubtful this is the case.
At any rate, barring this, Smed is untouchable.
Well, if we can get some SOE intern to have oral sex with him, that might just do the trick.
Driving a major component of the business into the ground is obviously not enough to force change.
One thing that worries me in all of this i.e the MMO genre is that if for instance SOE went tits up that would leave EA and blizz/activision as the sharks in the pool and this is something that cant be allowed to happen they more or less (along with nintendo) run the console games market and if they moved unhindered into our genre it would spell bad news for all us MMOers.
Smed comes across as a prat we all know this but wether you choose to believe it or not he's quite a clever prat non the less,but i do feel now that WOW has opened the genre to the wider world his and SOE's mistakes become ever more visable to average joe gamer and if they continue to cock up they will damage the SOE brand and sony while very preocupied by the failing ps3 must start to take notice of his management teams shorcomings.
They're not the devil,thier not corrupt but what they are is very stale and its showing now instead of leading the genre they are always playing catch up with others for a once market leader this must be galling to all concerned,i too think once the DC game comes out we'll see changes within the high ups at SOE its needed to move on and move up becuase no matter how badly you feel they've bitten you in the past we need them because a MMO world dominated by EA and activision doesnt sound very nice to me at all.
- 300.000 people (at least) x +15 $ (bucks) ---------------------------- - 4.500.000 $ (every month) x +12 (months) ---------------------------- - 54.000.000 $ (every year ) x +2,5 (years) -------------------------- - 135.000.000 $ (estimated loss of dollar at least ) and every month the loss is bigger , i like this ultimatum hurry , hurry $OE satisfy my needs starting with the very low and basic and bold ones
Bravo Darth , Its strange that SOE has not applied a calulator to the missing. This problem of recreating Pre CU servers is not worth 54 million a year in SOEs eyes. Heads should roll.
Comments
3rd time lucky?
Honestly, i cant argue with that, thats just how you feel so fair enough, i just base my decision on what i read on the swg forums and the set of devs working on the game now which i have much more faith in; DeadMeat the lead developer has categorically said they do not want to change any major game systems, just add new content and new features. Though you could argue validly that he is not to be trusted due to the mistrust created by smed.
I actually looked at the OP date because I thought I was seeing a necro....that it was the announcement of RLMMO.com... My oh my, some things never change...
Linna
I took off my rose-tinted glasses and hit the cancel button.
I held on because it was Star Wars. But after 90% of my friends left the game (because the NGE is not getting better, just more craptastic collections and copy/paste quests), well - if it smells like poo, it probably is poo, so unless you want dysentery it's time to leave.
It's not so much about the mistrust Smed created but rather Deadmeat wont be there forever. What happens when someone else takes over as lead-developer, or someone takes over when Smed is gone?
Deadmeats 1st claim to fame is the Chapter 6 Combat Downgrade, causing ANOTHER MASS EXODUS, leaving servers, dead, dieing, and devestated.
Probably did help the "bottom line" as ev1 that was left hit the $50.00 transfer button to bloodfin or bria.
So far, Deadmeat is NOT the savior that SOE, or even himself, claimed him to be, just another, in a long line, of CUNGE type developers.
I took off my rose-tinted glasses and hit the cancel button.
I held on because it was Star Wars. But after 90% of my friends left the game (because the NGE is not getting better, just more craptastic collections and copy/paste quests), well - if it smells like poo, it probably is poo, so unless you want dysentery it's time to leave.
When the game needed content, the developers focused on changing the game mechanics. Now that the game mechanics are what is wrong with the game, they have decided to focus on adding content, as far as million HP MOBs and asinine kill 500 kreetles collections can be considered content.
The game is currently the least fun MMO on the market. Without a complete overhaul of the game, it will remain that way. The combat system is horrendous, character movement is rediculous, and even the folks who like the current mess of a game will recomend you download unauthorized third-party UI mods and spend an hour changing UI settings to make the game semi-playable.
The only thing the game has going for it is the Star Wars IP. That is the only reason there is a handful of players left.
It's not so much about the mistrust Smed created but rather Deadmeat wont be there forever. What happens when someone else takes over as lead-developer, or someone takes over when Smed is gone?
Deadmeat is the SOE Producer, toilet boy is the Lead Designer. SWG will be gone long before the Smed is. He is the head of a division of a company with a business model of funding several projects that lose money by making one the earns a huge profit. There is a very good possibility of some changes in senior management at SOE after the DC Comics MMO flops, but I highly doubt the Smed will be in any danger of being one of the changes. He'll be around to make bad decisions and damage SOE's reputation for many years to come.
This isn't just how I feel, the Smedsternator himself had said this "The CU is here to stay" himself, heck it was posted on the forums as well (since you're mentioning you're going by what is said in the forums) when he decided to "address" the concerns over the CU. So if you can't even trust the bloody forums to tell you the accurate information. Then why should I take it seriously when, yet another person says they won't change the game mechanics? to me it sounds like "The NGE is here to stay! we swear it this time! really, no seriously, we mean it! hey don't go away! We know it's a buggy POS, but It'll be fun I promise!" Sorry, I just don't buy it.
Unfortunately, by American rules, SOE's done everything right and covered all their bases. The masses are SOL. There are much worse (though similar) cases in RL that are defended as such. Bottom line is if you sign a contract (ie pay the monthly charges and click accept on the EULA each time you play), you're leaving the possibility for taking it up the ass.
I like the idea though, "slander" sites themselves usually rile up a few feathers and result in lots of libel threats. So much for free speech.
-- xpaladin
[MMOz]
AC1/2, AO, DAoC, EQ1/2, SoR, SWG, UO, WAR, WoW
Is this thread real?
I'm as angry at SOE as anyone for mucking up what was the best MMORPG out there, but the OP is frankly pathetic and a tad sociapathic themselves
I'm not going to say forget NGE because I don't want to either. SOEs behaviour on games like EQ2 (the moves from Test etc) is beginning to remind me of their behaviour on SWG before the NGE and so I've decided to take a break from that game, but at least we can keep our dignity and self-respect at least.
Unfortunately, by American rules, SOE's done everything right and covered all their bases. The masses are SOL. There are much worse (though similar) cases in RL that are defended as such. Bottom line is if you sign a contract (ie pay the monthly charges and click accept on the EULA each time you play), you're leaving the possibility for taking it up the ass.
I like the idea though, "slander" sites themselves usually rile up a few feathers and result in lots of libel threats. So much for free speech.
I'm actually surprised that there wasn't a class action suit filed over the NGE, on behalf of the folks who had paid for multiple months in advance before the changes were announced. EA was sued over the state UO was launched in (bugs and so forth) and they settled the suit by donating several thousand dollars to museum (I think it was a museum). The folks who paid for several months based on the pre-NGE version of the game would have had a decent case, which would at the very least led to them receiving refunds, especially with the bait and switch that was done with the ToOW expansion as an example of bad faith on LEC/SOE's behalf.
EULAs haven't been tested in court yet, and many legal experts don't think they would hold up. There is always the possibility that they will.
The potential website in the original post is pretty much a non-factor. The folks at SOE aren't going to become less hostile towards their customers over it. If they are unwilling to not be douche bags to increase their income, they aren't going to do it to prevent a website from documenting their douche bagitude.
He's been with SOE quite a while, and he must know that his career may be seen as stagnant within the industry. I believe that by leaving SOE near the release of the Agency (or just after) then he can escape the critisism if it fails or be seen as an industy leader if it is successful.
I suspect we'll see him as a CEO again, but in something other then MMO's. Perhaps even in the industry he's bringing to us through games like the Agency.
It probably didn't hurt I added my state's attorney general's office on the CC line.
Point is, those who took an intelligent approach got what was due to them. Those who got screwed were the loudmouth whinebags who simply could not settle down enough to think clearly - or listen to those of us telling them what to do. A class action suit would have been thrown out because SOE was giving refunds to those who asked.
He's been with SOE quite a while, and he must know that his career may be seen as stagnant within the industry. I believe that by leaving SOE near the release of the Agency (or just after) then he can escape the critisism if it fails or be seen as an industy leader if it is successful.
I suspect we'll see him as a CEO again, but in something other then MMO's. Perhaps even in the industry he's bringing to us through games like the Agency.
The Agency is an experiment for SOE to see if they can make enough money through RMT the compete with their traditional pay per month MMOs. The DC Comics MMO is the game they are banking on being their flagship MMO. It is important enough that development is being micromanaged by the folks in San Diego, to the extent that they have had at least two lead designers, at least one senior producer, and a large chunk of the development staff quit the company. That is why they promoted Helios and Rogue_5 to being lead designer and senior producer of the game, which had been in development for well over a year at that point. The Smed and his cronies think the DCU game is going to be the game that they can finally peel away the WoW masses with. The Smed won't even think of leaving the company prior to DCUO's release. I doubt he will think about it then, but rather rationalize reasons why the game flopped and move on to EQ3.
I'm really torn between wanting SOE to do some major house cleaning and becoming a company I'd be willing to be a customer of again, and the fact that if they did do a house cleaning, it would just spread SOE's disfunction and hostility towards customers to other companies that hire the former SOE employees. Green Monster Games has already done a good job of hiring away everyone from SOE who isn't a complete douche bag. The folks who are left are at least contained to a single company and limited in the amount of damage they can potentially do to the industry as a whole.
BTW, this is frackin' funny
LOL
"You must be either retarded or a fanboi..."
well we can see who the viral marketers are. go cash those checks!
I took off my rose-tinted glasses and hit the cancel button.
I held on because it was Star Wars. But after 90% of my friends left the game (because the NGE is not getting better, just more craptastic collections and copy/paste quests), well - if it smells like poo, it probably is poo, so unless you want dysentery it's time to leave.
When the game needed content, the developers focused on changing the game mechanics. Now that the game mechanics are what is wrong with the game, they have decided to focus on adding content, as far as million HP MOBs and asinine kill 500 kreetles collections can be considered content.
The game is currently the least fun MMO on the market. Without a complete overhaul of the game, it will remain that way. The combat system is horrendous, character movement is rediculous, and even the folks who like the current mess of a game will recomend you download unauthorized third-party UI mods and spend an hour changing UI settings to make the game semi-playable.
The only thing the game has going for it is the Star Wars IP. That is the only reason there is a handful of players left.
amen brother, amen...
I defently couldnt say it better, nothing more to add on this one...
"You must be either retarded or a fanboi..."
Is there an approximate estimate when that DC Comics MMO should be out?
- 300.000 people (at least)
x +15 $ (bucks)
----------------------------
- 4.500.000 $ (every month)
x +12 (months)
----------------------------
- 54.000.000 $ (every year )
x +2,5 (years)
--------------------------
- 135.000.000 $ (estimated loss of dollar at least )
and every month the loss is bigger , i like this ultimatum
hurry , hurry $OE satisfy my needs starting with the very low and basic and bold ones
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Driving a major component of the business into the ground is obviously not enough to force change.
Maybe. Anyone here an SOE intern?
If this website is true you all know you are going to go visit it. Admit it to yourselves and please stop trash talking the OP.
It'll be nostalgic of the good old days when we played the game with the idea that cake was coming with the next patch.
Before we learned the truth about cake. March on OP and spread the word about SOE cake. :P
"The liberties and resulting economic prosperity that YOU take for granted were granted by those "dead guys"
Mmmmm....cake.
One thing that worries me in all of this i.e the MMO genre is that if for instance SOE went tits up that would leave EA and blizz/activision as the sharks in the pool and this is something that cant be allowed to happen they more or less (along with nintendo) run the console games market and if they moved unhindered into our genre it would spell bad news for all us MMOers.
Smed comes across as a prat we all know this but wether you choose to believe it or not he's quite a clever prat non the less,but i do feel now that WOW has opened the genre to the wider world his and SOE's mistakes become ever more visable to average joe gamer and if they continue to cock up they will damage the SOE brand and sony while very preocupied by the failing ps3 must start to take notice of his management teams shorcomings.
They're not the devil,thier not corrupt but what they are is very stale and its showing now instead of leading the genre they are always playing catch up with others for a once market leader this must be galling to all concerned,i too think once the DC game comes out we'll see changes within the high ups at SOE its needed to move on and move up becuase no matter how badly you feel they've bitten you in the past we need them because a MMO world dominated by EA and activision doesnt sound very nice to me at all.
Unaware of the Jestor?
http://about.me/JestorRodo/
Friends enjoy his classic Vblog - https://www.facebook.com/GoodOldReliableNathan