'' Graphics in AoC look like updated WoW graphics'' ......
Are you serious?
I mean, to me WoW looks like it was drawn my Disney a long time ago. And AoC looks realistic and modern, comparable to newer FPS games and alot better than Oblivion. I see no similarity between the 2 games graphically, whatsoever.
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Originally posted by sifudoja
'' Graphics in AoC look like updated WoW graphics'' ...... Are you serious? I mean, to me WoW looks like it was drawn my Disney a long time ago. And AoC looks realistic and modern, comparable to newer FPS games and alot better than Oblivion. I see no similarity between the 2 games graphically, whatsoever.
I wouldnt worry about it the OP over the last year doesn't bring really anything constructive to say especially when backing up his statements. This thread doesn't really deliver anything than the same thing said 10 months back.
The real clones have orcs, elves and dwarfs as playable races
okay that's just silly.... yeah there might be some woW alike things and that's prolly only the bloody 3 part talent trees AND giving the player more choices and fun like blizzard, if you think by making their gameplay just as loveable as WoW is a bad thing and then they are making the combat gameplay even better is a bad thing then you are nothing but a clueless idiot....
So if i were to create a new energy source for the world which would be the newest and best for the present day, why on earth would you be angry if other countries wanted that technology aswell? it would mean overall good for the whole world... yeah yeah maybe a farfetched way to compare but still, the OP is trying to catch the fish in very deep water aswell, so his is as farfetched as mine here.
Age of Conan and warhammer have studied WoW to see what players/people LIKE and loved about WoW, and sometimes when you try to recreate it, the end product might seem like the other one even if it has a different appearance but come on you can only go so far with inovative means, Blizzard pretty much did copy certain things aswell but people don't notice because blizzard just made all the mistakes other companies did and fixed them in the process and polished it to the best you could expect,. WoW is not a complete original either it did what Age of Conan is doing, seeking out the things players would love to have and want in a mmorpg and improving it, if it already existed.
So if you hate that people take some ideas seen before and simply improving it, then you might aswell leave the whole bloody mmorpg genre alone because that's how it works, improving old mistakes in certain means, and reusing features that was very enjoyable.
I am still thrilled about Age of Conan, so if you want to cut your wrists for this rather good approach.... be my guest
And even if that weren't the case...how the hell do you gather all this from the video? I watched it...repeatedly and what you see is like...no indication whatsoever. Graphics WoW-Like??? Did we watch the same video? The Talent-tree...of which you see like...-ONE- picture and nothing else, it's not even switched and of which it is explained why it will differ from WoW. Did you even listen to what the people were saying in the video? So...that said, there will probably be similarities to WoW in many many games to come. That's because WoW did quite a few things right. It doesn't mean that a game is a WoW - Clone just because you spot a similarity. -.-
Oh come the talent tree is basically a snatch and grab from blizz, sure d2 and WoW's talent trees were slightly different and so will be AOC , but in the end its the same thing. One line does dps the other tanking (aoc), gee sounds familiar.
They said this is how they DIDN'T want their tree to be! Your only back up information is this video, and you didnt even listen to the damn thing! its obvious you know nothing about AoC because it is DEFINATELY anything but a WoW clone. If you knew anything about AoC you would know that.
Yes, if you read all of my first post you'll seee me saying the post was a bit of a joke, but the talent tree swipe is sad stuff. Seeing as it is one of the worse character customization formats ever made, imo.
That is of course your opinion and thats fine, but you dont know that the specialized feat system AoC implements will be anything like what you have seen before because it is obvious you havent done much research.
However, for denying the fact that its a snatch and grab you are labeled a "Con-head" (con sounds like cone). Im just joking saw others do other fanboy names today and well its just funny.
So if you make a thread with a bunch of stupid claims that the video you supply doesnt even support and we correct you we are fanboys?...
I don't know about the graphix when i see a city it looks very different , but when i see just a mob and the player out in the middle of a desert or forest it looks pretty similar. That being said, how much different can they be? (In otherwords, there will always be similarities). Heck in a few above post people call TR a wow clone , if ya ask me i think aoc has more graphical similarities to WoW than TR does....
This baffles me most, have you ever watched any AoC ingame videos? it doesnt look ANYTHING like WoW .... i just dont get how you can make that comparison? its completely insane, AoC is using realistic looking characters and WoW went for a cartoony look. characters look nothing alike.
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Unfourtanetely we will see alot of WoW clones in the future. LOTR is a WOW clone, Tabula Rasa is a sci-fi WOW clone and WAR looks like it will be quite similar to Wow but I really hope AoC wont be but I wouldnt be too surprised if it turned out to be one. Because what excactly defines a WoW clone? I would say a casual, linear, quest driven MMORPG with a tree type skill system and a controlled PvP environment where the devs decide where and for what you PvP for. Hm, sounds quite similar to both AoC and WAR. Right now Chronicles of Spellborn and Darkfall are the only two games that most likely wont be WoW clones.
You might want to add "successful" to your definition as well.
CoSB and Darkfall (if that game is even real) will not be successful.
How can you even say that ? If a game like Darkfall hits the market as it is on paper now i think it would be a huge hit. It's a big group that looks for that kind of game, minority group but still a big group. I know the majority want "WoW like" games but what about the others ?
1. if you like wow play wow, ill watch saturday moarning cartoons instead 2. most people allready know this game is going to rickidy rock the house (F*ck WoW) 3. this game is targeted for mature audiences and i dont mean a rating system i mean actual mental maturity. 4. The children who played WoW because they saw it on southpark will not like this game 5. F*ck WoW 6. WoW ruined what MMO's are and should be. 7. SWG when it started was one of the best MMO's ever, bottom line. *R.I.P* 8. F*ck WoW 9. lets not forget Funcom, Never screwed me over..you? 10. Bring on the fights, swords, and shields, I look forward to being the reason you quit AoC because you keep getting your ass killed every time you enter a PVP zone. I shall wave goodbye gracefully as you return to suck on WoW's tiny little balls.
Did not really get this, are you trying to sound like a hardcore PvPer with this post ? The word "PvP Zone" should not even exist. AoC seems like a great game, but still it's levelbased with PvP zones, you probably wont even lose anything of value from dying in PvP.
Unfourtanetely we will see alot of WoW clones in the future. LOTR is a WOW clone, Tabula Rasa is a sci-fi WOW clone and WAR looks like it will be quite similar to Wow but I really hope AoC wont be but I wouldnt be too surprised if it turned out to be one. Right now Chronicles of Spellborn and Darkfall are the only two games that most likely wont be WoW clones.
TR a WoW clone?? i call Bullshit
are you currantly sub'd to TR?
Yep, until 7th of january. Not renewing though.
I'm sorry, but TR is in no way (in my opinion) a wow clone there are a ton of differance's. I don't think i can think of one thing that reminds me of WoW.....i mean it's a FPS, you have plenty of bag space from the start, fighting for CP's (Very fun), you get missions for instance's inside the instance...i could go on...i'm not saying it's a revolution in gaming, and perfect. a lot of things in TR bother me, but it's no WoW clone.
I think its a WoW clone because it is:
Casual
Linear quest driven progression
Instanced
Simplistic skill system, although not the same tree like thing that they have in WoW.
Very lenient death penalty
Similar interface
Very quick to level.
Ofcourse its not excactly the same but clone in this context doesnt meant that even though the word does. LOTR isnt excactly the same as WoW either but borrows heavily from it, just like TR.
And TR is certainly not an FPS game, the combat system is way to simplistic for it to be qualifed as an FPS.
I can see when i'm beaten...../bow, but i enjoy TR, and untill AoC and WAR what do we have? I'm not unsub'ing anytime soon
1. if you like wow play wow, ill watch saturday moarning cartoons instead 2. most people allready know this game is going to rickidy rock the house (F*ck WoW) 3. this game is targeted for mature audiences and i dont mean a rating system i mean actual mental maturity. 4. The children who played WoW because they saw it on southpark will not like this game 5. F*ck WoW 6. WoW ruined what MMO's are and should be. 7. SWG when it started was one of the best MMO's ever, bottom line. *R.I.P* 8. F*ck WoW 9. lets not forget Funcom, Never screwed me over..you? 10. Bring on the fights, swords, and shields, I look forward to being the reason you quit AoC because you keep getting your ass killed every time you enter a PVP zone. I shall wave goodbye gracefully as you return to suck on WoW's tiny little balls.
....If this is the mentality of most of AoC's player base ... then I'd rather not play..it'd be super reminiscent of most of WoW's current player base. .... Honestly if you want a game that attracts mature people you don't put boobs and guts in it and you certaintly don't go running around cussing and calling names & pointing fingers like a little kid.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
1. if you like wow play wow, ill watch saturday moarning cartoons instead 2. most people allready know this game is going to rickidy rock the house (F*ck WoW) 3. this game is targeted for mature audiences and i dont mean a rating system i mean actual mental maturity. 4. The children who played WoW because they saw it on southpark will not like this game 5. F*ck WoW 6. WoW ruined what MMO's are and should be. 7. SWG when it started was one of the best MMO's ever, bottom line. *R.I.P* 8. F*ck WoW 9. lets not forget Funcom, Never screwed me over..you? 10. Bring on the fights, swords, and shields, I look forward to being the reason you quit AoC because you keep getting your ass killed every time you enter a PVP zone. I shall wave goodbye gracefully as you return to suck on WoW's tiny little balls.
....If this is the mentality of most of AoC's player base ... then I'd rather not play..it'd be super reminiscent of most of WoW's current player base. .... Honestly if you want a game that attracts mature people you don't put boobs and guts in it and you certaintly don't go running around cussing and calling names & pointing fingers like a little kid.
I was thinkin the same thing when I read that post..
As for these games being a WoW clone...I doubt it. I mean LotR was a WoW clone. All games will have similarities. I think those that compare every game to WoW are just WoW fanboys who fear that their game may not be number one once the next wave of MMORPGs come out. Don't worry fanboys...I am sure WoW will be quite safe for some time to come.
maybe we should say that they're ALL "clones" of old AD&D because you have "Hit points" (health, Morale, whatever, same thing differant name). Simply because a game shares a feature with another game does not make it a "clone". As these games progress, they are all building off from each other's good ideas, as a foundation, then adding unique ideas on top of that. It's called progress. Besides....trust in Funcom. Anarchy Online is still running, still has a decent subscriber base, and has never pulled an "NGE". I have years of fond memories of that game. I am quite anxious to see what they will do this time, with AoC.
Well said, sadly I don't believe this game will have any real depth any MMO which doesn't have original IP will be pretty much mainstream casual...
A sandbox skill based game will break through soon and we will be back to the good old days where games were a challenge and worthwhile. And all the carebear features are removed so that game design and a bit of tactical awareness comes into play.
But oh that would be oh just so hard wouldn't it. I am seeing nothing new here just an IP some are familiar with which may be fuin for a couple of months but no longevity.
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Omg Age of Conan is a 100% copy of World of Warcraft even the graphics are 100% indentical, the gameplay is so similiar omg nubs world of warcraft is the bestest it was first mmo to be released everything else is like cheated off world of warcraft omg.
Omg Age of Conan is a 100% copy of World of Warcraft even the graphics are 100% indentical, the gameplay is so similiar omg nubs world of warcraft is the bestest it was first mmo to be released everything else is like cheated off world of warcraft omg. *sarcasm*
You sure your not thinking of warhammer online. ive never seen one comment anywhere comparing AOC to WoW, except this tread lol
Omg Age of Conan is a 100% copy of World of Warcraft even the graphics are 100% indentical, the gameplay is so similiar omg nubs world of warcraft is the bestest it was first mmo to be released everything else is like cheated off world of warcraft omg. *sarcasm*
You sure your not thinking of warhammer online. ive never seen one comment anywhere comparing AOC to WoW. In fact your post is the first time ive seen the two games used in the same sentence
Read the 1st post in this thread and you will know...
Omg Age of Conan is a 100% copy of World of Warcraft even the graphics are 100% indentical, the gameplay is so similiar omg nubs world of warcraft is the bestest it was first mmo to be released everything else is like cheated off world of warcraft omg. *sarcasm*
You sure your not thinking of warhammer online. ive never seen one comment anywhere comparing AOC to WoW. In fact your post is the first time ive seen the two games used in the same sentence
Read the 1st post in this thread and you will know...
Ya i jumped the gun there just read that one post couldnt believe someone actually said that
Unfourtanetely we will see alot of WoW clones in the future. LOTR is a WOW clone, Tabula Rasa is a sci-fi WOW clone and WAR looks like it will be quite similar to Wow but I really hope AoC wont be but I wouldnt be too surprised if it turned out to be one. Because what excactly defines a WoW clone? I would say a casual, linear, quest driven MMORPG with a tree type skill system and a controlled PvP environment where the devs decide where and for what you PvP for. Hm, sounds quite similar to both AoC and WAR. Right now Chronicles of Spellborn and Darkfall are the only two games that most likely wont be WoW clones.
Wasn't WoW a clone of something else.. I don't remember maybe EQ1 oh wait that was a clone of UO ... anyone play text base rpg now that was unique...
Wow going for the causal was kind of unique but hey it worked. Although good for them, one marriage is good enough for me. Linear!!! I dream of a day without linear development, one day with A.I. I think it will be happen. Quest driven, is unique to wow.. well no but we can say so. Anyway, I prefer the grind too.. well not really.
Youre in a state of denial if you think big name companies (EA,Funcom, SOE, etc..) ARENT going to make games that try to look and feel like warcraft. Warcraft has millions of poeple playing, what makes you think they wouldnt try to copy that and get millions of players?
Youre in a state of denial if you think big name companies (EA,Funcom, SOE, etc..) ARENT going to make games that try to look and feel like warcraft. Warcraft has millions of poeple playing, what makes you think they wouldnt try to copy that and get millions of players?
Ah.. the deeper secrets of life. The question about the Why...
Why isnt Ferrari selling small cars like Hyundai ? Why is the restaurant of Hilton NY not selling McDonalds burgers ? Why are there different newspapers and why do some people dont eat meat ?
The answer is 42. It took the computer a few ages to compute this number. We just dont know why
Youre in a state of denial if you think big name companies (EA,Funcom, SOE, etc..) ARENT going to make games that try to look and feel like warcraft. Warcraft has millions of poeple playing, what makes you think they wouldnt try to copy that and get millions of players?
Ah.. the deeper secrets of life. The question about the Why...
Why isnt Ferrari selling small cars like Hyundai ? Why is the restaurant of Hilton NY not selling McDonalds burgers ? Why are there different newspapers and why do some people dont eat meat ?
The answer is 42. It took the computer a few ages to compute this number. We just dont know why
The only thing I would point out is that a Ferrari costs rather more than a Honda.
Currently all MMORPG's seem to be in a similar pricing bracket. So, if Ferrari had to make a car which would only sell for the same amount as a Honda, I'd expect it to be a bit more like a Honda than a Ferrari.
Now, if someone could make a MMORPG which people would pay, $50 a month for, then we'd be talking about real difference being possible.
At the moment, numbers , not quality seems to be all that matters.
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'' Graphics in AoC look like updated WoW graphics'' ......
Are you serious?
I mean, to me WoW looks like it was drawn my Disney a long time ago. And AoC looks realistic and modern, comparable to newer FPS games and alot better than Oblivion. I see no similarity between the 2 games graphically, whatsoever.
The real clones have orcs, elves and dwarfs as playable races
It seems they're aiming at what the Darkfall devs promised like 9 years ago.
okay that's just silly.... yeah there might be some woW alike things and that's prolly only the bloody 3 part talent trees AND giving the player more choices and fun like blizzard, if you think by making their gameplay just as loveable as WoW is a bad thing and then they are making the combat gameplay even better is a bad thing then you are nothing but a clueless idiot....
So if i were to create a new energy source for the world which would be the newest and best for the present day, why on earth would you be angry if other countries wanted that technology aswell? it would mean overall good for the whole world... yeah yeah maybe a farfetched way to compare but still, the OP is trying to catch the fish in very deep water aswell, so his is as farfetched as mine here.
Age of Conan and warhammer have studied WoW to see what players/people LIKE and loved about WoW, and sometimes when you try to recreate it, the end product might seem like the other one even if it has a different appearance but come on you can only go so far with inovative means, Blizzard pretty much did copy certain things aswell but people don't notice because blizzard just made all the mistakes other companies did and fixed them in the process and polished it to the best you could expect,. WoW is not a complete original either it did what Age of Conan is doing, seeking out the things players would love to have and want in a mmorpg and improving it, if it already existed.
So if you hate that people take some ideas seen before and simply improving it, then you might aswell leave the whole bloody mmorpg genre alone because that's how it works, improving old mistakes in certain means, and reusing features that was very enjoyable.
I am still thrilled about Age of Conan, so if you want to cut your wrists for this rather good approach.... be my guest
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Oh come the talent tree is basically a snatch and grab from blizz, sure d2 and WoW's talent trees were slightly different and so will be AOC , but in the end its the same thing. One line does dps the other tanking (aoc), gee sounds familiar.
They said this is how they DIDN'T want their tree to be! Your only back up information is this video, and you didnt even listen to the damn thing! its obvious you know nothing about AoC because it is DEFINATELY anything but a WoW clone. If you knew anything about AoC you would know that.
Yes, if you read all of my first post you'll seee me saying the post was a bit of a joke, but the talent tree swipe is sad stuff. Seeing as it is one of the worse character customization formats ever made, imo.
That is of course your opinion and thats fine, but you dont know that the specialized feat system AoC implements will be anything like what you have seen before because it is obvious you havent done much research.
However, for denying the fact that its a snatch and grab you are labeled a "Con-head" (con sounds like cone). Im just joking saw others do other fanboy names today and well its just funny.
So if you make a thread with a bunch of stupid claims that the video you supply doesnt even support and we correct you we are fanboys?...
I don't know about the graphix when i see a city it looks very different , but when i see just a mob and the player out in the middle of a desert or forest it looks pretty similar. That being said, how much different can they be? (In otherwords, there will always be similarities). Heck in a few above post people call TR a wow clone , if ya ask me i think aoc has more graphical similarities to WoW than TR does....
This baffles me most, have you ever watched any AoC ingame videos? it doesnt look ANYTHING like WoW .... i just dont get how you can make that comparison? its completely insane, AoC is using realistic looking characters and WoW went for a cartoony look. characters look nothing alike.
We gingers are a proud people, we are the noble descendants of great americans like Ron Howard and.... others...We will not be discrimated against any longer, for we are a great race!! - Eric Cartman
CoSB and Darkfall (if that game is even real) will not be successful.
How can you even say that ? If a game like Darkfall hits the market as it is on paper now i think it would be a huge hit. It's a big group that looks for that kind of game, minority group but still a big group. I know the majority want "WoW like" games but what about the others ?
AoC a WoW clone? Now I've seen it all. That's like saying the Grim Reaper is a clone of Santa Claus.
Have you checked out WAR's graphics? Have you noticed any similarities? Hmm?
Did not really get this, are you trying to sound like a hardcore PvPer with this post ? The word "PvP Zone" should not even exist. AoC seems like a great game, but still it's levelbased with PvP zones, you probably wont even lose anything of value from dying in PvP.
Open PvP, full loot, skillbased FTW
TR a WoW clone?? i call Bullshit
are you currantly sub'd to TR?
Yep, until 7th of january. Not renewing though.I'm sorry, but TR is in no way (in my opinion) a wow clone there are a ton of differance's. I don't think i can think of one thing that reminds me of WoW.....i mean it's a FPS, you have plenty of bag space from the start, fighting for CP's (Very fun), you get missions for instance's inside the instance...i could go on...i'm not saying it's a revolution in gaming, and perfect. a lot of things in TR bother me, but it's no WoW clone.
I think its a WoW clone because it is:Ofcourse its not excactly the same but clone in this context doesnt meant that even though the word does. LOTR isnt excactly the same as WoW either but borrows heavily from it, just like TR.
And TR is certainly not an FPS game, the combat system is way to simplistic for it to be qualifed as an FPS.
I can see when i'm beaten...../bow, but i enjoy TR, and untill AoC and WAR what do we have? I'm not unsub'ing anytime soon
....If this is the mentality of most of AoC's player base ... then I'd rather not play..it'd be super reminiscent of most of WoW's current player base. .... Honestly if you want a game that attracts mature people you don't put boobs and guts in it and you certaintly don't go running around cussing and calling names & pointing fingers like a little kid.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
....If this is the mentality of most of AoC's player base ... then I'd rather not play..it'd be super reminiscent of most of WoW's current player base. .... Honestly if you want a game that attracts mature people you don't put boobs and guts in it and you certaintly don't go running around cussing and calling names & pointing fingers like a little kid.
As for these games being a WoW clone...I doubt it. I mean LotR was a WoW clone. All games will have similarities. I think those that compare every game to WoW are just WoW fanboys who fear that their game may not be number one once the next wave of MMORPGs come out. Don't worry fanboys...I am sure WoW will be quite safe for some time to come.
A sandbox skill based game will break through soon and we will be back to the good old days where games were a challenge and worthwhile. And all the carebear features are removed so that game design and a bit of tactical awareness comes into play.
But oh that would be oh just so hard wouldn't it. I am seeing nothing new here just an IP some are familiar with which may be fuin for a couple of months but no longevity.
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Sorcery must persist, the future is the Citadel
Omg Age of Conan is a 100% copy of World of Warcraft even the graphics are 100% indentical, the gameplay is so similiar omg nubs world of warcraft is the bestest it was first mmo to be released everything else is like cheated off world of warcraft omg.
*sarcasm*
Tetris is a WoW clone.
so true
You sure your not thinking of warhammer online. ive never seen one comment anywhere comparing AOC to WoW, except this tread lol
You sure your not thinking of warhammer online. ive never seen one comment anywhere comparing AOC to WoW. In fact your post is the first time ive seen the two games used in the same sentence
Read the 1st post in this thread and you will know...
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You sure your not thinking of warhammer online. ive never seen one comment anywhere comparing AOC to WoW. In fact your post is the first time ive seen the two games used in the same sentence
Read the 1st post in this thread and you will know...
Ya i jumped the gun there just read that one post couldnt believe someone actually said that
Wow going for the causal was kind of unique but hey it worked. Although good for them, one marriage is good enough for me. Linear!!! I dream of a day without linear development, one day with A.I. I think it will be happen. Quest driven, is unique to wow.. well no but we can say so. Anyway, I prefer the grind too.. well not really.
Video looked awesome, I can't wait for AoC.
Youre in a state of denial if you think big name companies (EA,Funcom, SOE, etc..) ARENT going to make games that try to look and feel like warcraft. Warcraft has millions of poeple playing, what makes you think they wouldnt try to copy that and get millions of players?
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/sigh i hate how people compare everything to wow..
they wont be the same! relax
Ah.. the deeper secrets of life. The question about the Why...
Why isnt Ferrari selling small cars like Hyundai ? Why is the restaurant of Hilton NY not selling McDonalds burgers ? Why are there different newspapers and why do some people dont eat meat ?
The answer is 42. It took the computer a few ages to compute this number. We just dont know why
The combat and gritty graphics have to be fun atleast couple of months.
When does Spore come out?
Ah.. the deeper secrets of life. The question about the Why...
Why isnt Ferrari selling small cars like Hyundai ? Why is the restaurant of Hilton NY not selling McDonalds burgers ? Why are there different newspapers and why do some people dont eat meat ?
The answer is 42. It took the computer a few ages to compute this number. We just dont know why
The only thing I would point out is that a Ferrari costs rather more than a Honda.
Currently all MMORPG's seem to be in a similar pricing bracket. So, if Ferrari had to make a car which would only sell for the same amount as a Honda, I'd expect it to be a bit more like a Honda than a Ferrari.
Now, if someone could make a MMORPG which people would pay, $50 a month for, then we'd be talking about real difference being possible.
At the moment, numbers , not quality seems to be all that matters.