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Very Disapointed....

KckStrtKckStrt Member Posts: 39

I was so looking forward to this game.  I purchased the full retail version.  But in the end I became very bored with it quickly.  I just don't feel it has enough going on to keep me interested.  Just the same old quests and missions,  Run here, talk to so and so, run back here, kill this, pick up that and back to the quest giver again.  Nothing new here.  The weapons I thought were pretty cool, but I am seeing that no specific weapon is better then another.  In the end, i can kill the mobs with whatever I have on me. 

Just bored, I am sure  the game will get better in the future, they always do.

And too all those silly folks bashing WOW all the time, remember, you loved it when it came out, that's whey you have a lvl 70 Warlock. 

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,073

    Originally posted by KckStrt
    And too all those silly folks bashing WOW all the time, remember, you loved it when it came out, that's whey you have a lvl 70 Warlock. 

    Naw, I gave up when my Warlock was 60.....

    Too bad TR didn't work out for you, maybe the next one will.  But expect them all to be pretty much more of the same.

     

     

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  • sadnebulasadnebula Member UncommonPosts: 263

    I'm really starting to wonder if a good mmo is ever going to be released again. Seems like all are to afraid to stray from the beaten path.

    look at turbine. They have one of the best ever sandbox types out in AC and then look at lotr.  O well, guess we'll see this year  when the hype settles and AOC and WAR release. till then I'll play this one. At the least there are fewer time sinks and the battles are fun.

     

     

  • ninjajucerninjajucer Member Posts: 219

    Most MMO's are the same. They are either have Quests that are linear based (WoW, LOTRO), a pure grind (go kill x of y), or just don't have that many quests and you just have to muddle your own way through. Very few games these days leave it up to the player to make their own way through the game. Only game I ever saw that did this to great effect was the Elder Scrolls series.

    Until the next generation of games comes out like AoC, WAR and even Bethesda's Fallout Online, I won't pass judgement.

    Until a game has been out for at least a year, long enough to get all the bugs out and figure out what style they are going for, its little use bashing the game. TR has not been out for a year officially. Frankly, besides Anarchy Online, its only other Sci Fi MMO out that doesn't rely soley on flying ships around. Its a viable option for now, until the other games coming out get stable enough to warrant an actual review.

  • Plasuma!!!Plasuma!!! Member Posts: 1,872

    Originally posted by KckStrt

    And too all those silly folks bashing WOW all the time, remember, you loved it when it came out, that's whey you have a lvl 70 Warlock. 

    Who said it was love? I was tricked, it was a scandal!

    I played WoW to kill time with friends. Everything was simple enough that I didn't have to really concentrate on what I was doing in the background (like killing giant spiders) while chatting. It was more or less an expensive messenger.

    Different story for TR; it demands your attention constantly and you have to click madly to stay alive. You're being forced to concentrate on how much of a grind it is by the nature of the combat style, so it wears you out faster. No real opportunity for chatting... if you're talking, you're not killing stuff.

    Sub-par shooter, sub-par social game; overall a hybrid that couldn't deliver from conception.

  • ReklawReklaw Member UncommonPosts: 6,495

    Originally posted by KckStrt


    I was so looking forward to this game.  I purchased the full retail version.  But in the end I became very bored with it quickly.  I just don't feel it has enough going on to keep me interested.  Just the same old quests and missions,  Run here, talk to so and so, run back here, kill this, pick up that and back to the quest giver again.  Nothing new here.  The weapons I thought were pretty cool, but I am seeing that no specific weapon is better then another.  In the end, i can kill the mobs with whatever I have on me. 
    Just bored, I am sure  the game will get better in the future, they always do.
    And too all those silly folks bashing WOW all the time, remember, you loved it when it came out, that's whey you have a lvl 70 Warlock. 
    Change your playstyle, maybe then you could enjoy TR aswell.

    The missions are NOT the same, they have different TEXT, but i geuss the new gen type of player does not border to actualy read hte missions/storylines, the new gen type of player does not want to get involved with a game, they seem only to worry about "whats the quickest way to max lvl"

    And the "you can kill whatever what you have on you" is what i mean with change your playstyle, don't be a sheep and just pick whats the best but try and put some effort into it and try to challenge yourself.

    And being bored has NOTHING to do with the game it's indiviuals that because of hte way they play a game they get bored, they do not even realize that when someone say's he/she is bored that it actualy means they have nothing better in live, yes i said it as that is my opinion when i see newbs saying they are bored. Another reason why someone gets bored would be because they simply are burned out by the genre. Or it could be that because of the shallow playstyle they have they can get bored aswell.

    Seriusly if someone gets bored with a game then just be mature and leave that game, do something else, play another game or better yet try something away from hte computer.....oh i'm sure that now i will get reply's about people saying they have enough going in rl, if so ask yourself how can someone that would have enough going for them come to a forum to say they bored, sorry it seems just to be a fashionstatement but made without anythought what it really means when someone tells others they are bored.

  • EuthorusEuthorus Member Posts: 491

    Hmm.. not sure what he refers to as not being able to chat while exp'ing. The game has plenty to offer with the main difference of NOT having to go to a raid/group instance to feel the exiliration(sp?) of a good fight simply level up and go to one of the zones where higher level bane troops bang a CP.  If thats not pure organized fun for you defend against then I am not sure if anything in the MMO PvE realm will be. 

    TR does not force anyone into a dull grind - you can if you want and you will get your rewards but you dont have to. That would be the opposite side of the scale from WoW.

    FUNCOM - putting the FUN in disFUNctional !

  • CottagePieCottagePie Member Posts: 3

    I think the issue is that TR has such a lack of content that the more hardcore of mmo players will shred the game in literally hours and days, as the OP points out you can do anything with pretty much any weapon, the Logos things are... well.... whatever. 

     

    One fun thing to do in TR when your level 50 and have insane levels of credits is to buy heaps of expensive chaingun ammo and just shoot aimlessly in population centers :D relive those predator moments shooting up the jungle, oh yesh.

     

     

    And even though i despise WoW, it is a brilliant game, has gotten a lot right for sure.

     

     

  • BaldyMikeBaldyMike Member Posts: 65

    I just finished the 3 day free trial...

    Overall I had a blast. I leveled 2 toons to 10 and 12...wanted to try both sides of the tree.

     

    Likes:

    I liked the fast paced action, defending the control points, decent quests, not bad solo play...most quests can be completed solo, not just sitting in your quest log 'till they go grey 'cuz you cant get a group together. Though the quests will be familiar to most of you...go to (x) collect / kill (x) of (x)...there is plenty to keep you busy in you travels with Bane drop ships popping up (not just spending your time running from one place to another.) Though there could be a little more random spawns it wasn't bad (not just the same mobs, in the same spots every time you run through an area...(but a little more random spawns for the drop ships would keep it interesting (Hint to Dev's))

    Kinda reminded me of Half-Life.

    I can't say much about End Game, but if it catches on, I'm sure new content will be added. This is not a game where I'm going to buy a house and settle in somewhere...not intended to be.

     

    Dislikes:

    $50 for the game and $15 / month!!! C'mon guys...look what's out there!  If you want me to pay $50 for the game then drop the monthly to...say $10...or if you're smart....free to DL, free to Update...and $15 / month! Look at EVE, it's worked great for them...I'ld still be playing that if it wasnt for the unballanced PvP making it nearly impossible for any solo play...but that's another story . I mean, what would you wrather have...several, nearly full servers at $10-$15 / month / person or 1 or 2 servers with medium traffic, "...but we got our $50 bucks" ... Think about it !!!

    Graphics is ok...could be better, but I'm pushing the system req's, I still enjoyed the game at general graphics settings.

    Crafting  ... Eh...it's ok...tried it but didn't much care for it...maybe if the recipies weren't destroyed in the process...or maybe had use limits like 10 runs...like I said...I'm not going to settle down somewhere and start making stuff to sell at the AH.

     

    Overall:

    I enjoyed the 3 days, liked the "feel" of the game...but I'm not going to pay $50 for the game AND $15 / month to play.....one or the other guys (Dev's). Don't make it quite so obvious that you're trying to get into my wallet. If you really BELIEVE you have a game with long term interest and staying power...and intend to update and expand the player experience...then you wouldn't need to hit me for $50 / $15 (what...dont think you have a good enough product to keep me around long term?) Heck...I wouldn't stay with WoW f it wasn't for the fact that I have so much time invested...I REALLY HATE having to go out and pay another $50 every time WoW comes out with an expansion...and if it wasn't for the social aspect, having so many friends still playing...I wouldn't.

    I've seen things, you...people, wouldn't believe... . Attack ships on fire, off the shoulder of Orion... . I watched C-Beams, glitter in the darkness near the Tannhauser Gate... . All those...moments will be lost in time... . Like...tears...in the rain...
    Time to die.....
    Roy Batty
    Blade Runner

  • cmgangrelcmgangrel Member UncommonPosts: 152

    shop around for the price of the game... be suprised at what you can find online as well (and maybe get a heafty saving)

  • challonechallone Member Posts: 1

    I belive that TR is not so much fun after you come around L 20.  I just feel to make some critics. My aim is not to disturb other players enjoying the game or to misjudge because of my doomed personality.  This way maybe I might have some chance to take attention for my expectations in a mmorpg game or to share ideas with some other people who have the same expectations.

    The game I was playing before this was AO. And when I am playing this one, I can`t stop myself making comparisons. And I would really like to see some good ideas and features to be shown and embedded into new ones. It`s true that almost every mmorpg has the same gaming scenario, digging quests all the time. Go there, pick this, escort this guy, kill millions of this, millions of that.  TR has really neat graphics and a very great engine. But the content is really limited. Maybe they did not want to loose the technical stability of the game by putting to much features in it. But this way I think it is too much simplistic. And I don`t think they would enrich  the skill system even after beta version and in the future design of the game. There are really a lot of things to say if you are someone looking for a sci-fi MMORPG after playing AO for a long time.  But at least (these are my whinings) I have to say that, in a game like that I am really looking for these shiny, high-end designed implants to stuff in my body by a surgeon with blood all over his uniform. And it would be also nice to read about item`s structures, specialities, technology, story behind them, etc.. This is sthn. good to do if you get bored of running around and terminating creatures around.  I mean it would be really good to meet some traces from other lots of sci-fi and disutopic literature in some way, other than lots of Stormship Troopers connotation.

    This is my opinion after I played the game and I will keep on playing. Couse I think this is the best choice for me atm. Between lots of fantasy based mmorpgs, it is good to have a new sci-fi based game. Hope there will be others soon.

  • BaldyMikeBaldyMike Member Posts: 65

    Originally posted by cmgangrel


    shop around for the price of the game... be suprised at what you can find online as well (and maybe get a heafty saving)
    Yeah...have seen it for $39.99...and I believe it was Amazon had it for $29 (?)

    Should be able to DL a new, perminant key...since we had to DL the game for the trial...even if it was a downgraded version, it should just be a matter of a patch.

    Should have just been able to sellect..."...would you like to continue playing TR?" setup account payment info and continue playing. No free month...that would be acceptable...but dont charge for the game....seems fair enough.

    As it is they have made $0.00 off me!!!  Had it been that simple I would have played for at least...what 3-6 months...if the game is still playable at higher levels the MUCH longer (Like the over 1.5 years I've ben with WoW) they would have made $45-$100 off me...and probly MUCH more. What...they save the cost of the bos, dvd, manuals....etc....and if I can get it from Amazon for $30...that means TR makes about $20-$25...seems they would have been better off to make it easy for me to continue playing wrather than waiting to get the game in the mail.

    I don't know....maybe I just over simplify things too much   

    I've seen things, you...people, wouldn't believe... . Attack ships on fire, off the shoulder of Orion... . I watched C-Beams, glitter in the darkness near the Tannhauser Gate... . All those...moments will be lost in time... . Like...tears...in the rain...
    Time to die.....
    Roy Batty
    Blade Runner

  • pussaykatpussaykat Member Posts: 791

    I'm 31 and i've stopped playing too. Well until they release 1.4 which they said would be sometme this week. They have 1.5 day left to stick to what they said. Passed that they're starting to suck. Actually they already do since this was due last week.

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  • syeagersyeager Member Posts: 10
    Originally posted by pussaykat


    I'm 31 and i've stopped playing too. Well until they release 1.4 which they said would be sometme this week. They have 1.5 day left to stick to what they said. Passed that they're starting to suck. Actually they already do since this was due last week.

    Just look at Test Server Patch notes - nothing of importance,  Some cosmetics and bug fixes.

  • pussaykatpussaykat Member Posts: 791

    I did post that before the patch notes were released. I was thinking i'd come back after the patch fixes mires but now seeing how they nerf stuff before they even get a solid player base.

    That nerf really hit me, the reading of it gave me a very negative feeling.

    I've asked around and i've beed advised to play EvE or WoW. Since it's easier to play wow because i already have an account that's prolly what i'll do.

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  • NasherUKNasherUK Member UncommonPosts: 480

    Seems like most new MMOs are just trying to copy WoW atm.  They see something that works very well and rakes in customers, so they think it's a good idea to copy it.  Except it isn't and now we have piles of failed MMOs :P

    Most people are holding off until AoC, which looks like more than just another wow clone.

     

  • BlkcatBlkcat Member Posts: 152

    I'd have to say that I was quite disappointed with this game as well.

    The wife bought me the collectors edition, the $70 job, shortly after the game went live. Was not involved in the beta at all.

    First off, the graphics really didnt impress me. Little grittier than WoW, and not as much customization. Maybe thats a byproduct of my video card, but I doubt it, x800 GTO. Many of the colors looked "washed out" which leads, at least to me, to much of the background, well blending into the background. While in itself, this isnt exactly a bad thing, but when your choices of things to do is limited-point, click, shoot- there really needs to be more to look at. Character models are a bit blocky, and animation was terrible. My toon looked like he had a stick shoved up his arse while jumping. Must say though, did like the little roll animation for when you fell more than jumping distance. Sad though that it has absolutely no tactical advantage.

    Gameplay, its alot like most squad type games, like Battlefield or AA. Point, click, shoot. Granted, your killing NPC's, rather than PC's, but thats really a moot point. As of the first month of live, there was no built in voice chat, which seems kinda odd to me with a squad type MMO, but thats me. The lack of voice chat means you have to take your eyes off what your doing in order to talk to someone, anyone. Needless to say, this can make grouping, and achieving goals as a group, just a touch difficult. Typing isnt the most conducive way to relay information to others while in the middle of getting your rump blasted.   About the best part of the combat are CP's, or control points, and those got real old, real fast. Mainly, there was little organization, and little reason for any. Your just trying to blast more Bane than the guy next to you so you get the XP and loot from it. Basicly, I just carpet bombed the hell out of em. Granted, this more often than not ended with me dieing, but not because a Bane shot me. NOOOO, that might make sense. No, I'd die more often than not because a particular type of Bane, called a Linker, or five of em, were also in the crowd I just bombed. Why should this matter you might ask? Linkers deal much of the damage that you do to them, right back at you. They dont have to be targeting you to do this, it just happens. Hit two or three of these in a spread, and your toast, period. Now if you dont have the carpet bomb skill, your other best option is a shotgun. Sad to say, same thing ends up happening. While you could use a single target weapon/skill to avoid most of this, then your grind gets 10x longer, and it is a grind. First there is the grind to 30, so you can get your first specialization, then there is the grind to find the right mods you want for your weapons/armor at the right lvl.  While you might be able to get away with saying this is a "quest" based game, the quests have little impact on the world your in, the fight with the Bane, or anything else for that matter. They do, however, do a good job of making you run all over the map, so you do get a chance to see much of the blend in backgrounds.

    Logo's, which honistly is the only "new" thing in this game, feel really clunky. Long lead in animations, short durations, and lack luster results make you wonder why your spending 60% of the game looking for the damn things, many of which you will never use. Maybe there is some super special power you get when you have all of em,(then again probably not) but I got super bored with it all.

    Crafting, what little there is of it, should really be called "Moding" as your not really making anything, your just modifying an existing item. Instead of making the gun, which in my mind would qualify as crafting, you are just adding a stat to a gun you already found or bought. You have to destroy something, weapon or armor, to get the bits you need to craft these upgrades, and its not always a sure thing you will get what you want/need. I remember disassembling 100's of items looking for a kinetic inverter about a week into the game. Everything that I tore apart should have had one on it, least so it would tell me in the chance of getting screen, but it would never give me the part. Ended up having to ask someone else for one, only to find out that the weapon I was upgrading was worthless to me less than 5 lvls later. As to crafting for others, I just couldnt see the point in it. By the time your past lvl 20, if you have been working on crafting at all, you got most of the parts you need to just do it yourself.

    There are only three designs to each type of armor, which is reused throughout the game. Only difference between a lvl 1 mech/design 1 armor piece and a lvl 30, is the lvl. Graphic wise, its the exact same thing, which is kinda a let down. While it allows for some degree of appearance difference between characters, there is nothing that will make your character stand out. While you can "paint" the armor, you cannot mix hue's of paint to come up with a custom color, like you could in Guild Wars. So what your left with is a cookie cutter character with almost no way to make yourself stand out.

    That about sums up the game to me. It just doesnt stand out. Average graphics with sub-par animations. Repetitive combat and  extremely shallow crafting/customization options. Not even much of a community.

     

    Just not much to bring one back.

    BTW-Canceled my subscription something like 23 days into my free 30 that came with the box.

     

     

     

  • VadenVaden Member UncommonPosts: 145

    To defend TR, I think its different and nothing like WoW, not even in the same time frame or job classes. Its a great "single player" combat game that you can play with friends.

    Allot could have been done better and like its been posted many times, any hardcore gamer will fly threw TR in like a Day to a Week.

    Wasnt any EndGame content when I played. If you want to burn money on a future neo combat game that different, play NeoCron Evo 2.2 with the new patch it rokkz!!!!!!!!!!! But i just kant afford the 14.99 a month :( but oh well... the game IS free like someone said TR should be lol but oh well.

    So yeah.. TR is a good game but you have to know how to play it, mostly with friends and in a swat combat way and enjoy the single player like build of it, dont rush threw it.. read the quest. Get involved.

    Now to agree on most of the major post.. TR is boring lol.. but thats only after about a month or two... $50 +$15 a month is a very huge money sink to play a game you'll stop playing in 2 or 3 months but its realli up to the gamer.

     

    IIIIFFFF you're really interested in TR.. wait a few more month for it to be patched and add way more content.. i'll probably improve greatly ever 3 to 6 months.

     

    If you want to try some FREE games. Stuff I'm playing right now: WolfTeam, Xteel, Shaiya, World of Kung-Fu

    All are very fun and mildly well done.. the 1st two are pure PvP. dont try to PvP in a RPG game, it'll never be balanced.

    And once again.. if you're cool with paying and need a real game, play NeoCron Evo 2.2 with the new patch. And just to add.. they are not done, they're adding new Vehicles, you can buy ur own apartments and clan apartments, drive tanks, fight all kind of mobs that deal different types of damage you'll have to change your gear alot but its not to much of a problem, Each weapon is xtremly different. <3 the 4Wheeler for all you off roaders!

    Crafting system is the best I've seen EVER. I've yet to see someone top it, it kant be realli.. only cloned. Play on and enjoy ur selfs... later guys and girls

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  • BlkcatBlkcat Member Posts: 152
    Originally posted by Vaden


    To defend TR, I think its different and nothing like WoW, not even in the same time frame or job classes. Its a great "single player" combat game that you can play with friends.
    Agree. About the closest thing you could size it up against is Guild Wars.
    Allot could have been done better and like its been posted many times, any hardcore gamer will fly threw TR in like a Day to a Week.
    Wasnt any EndGame content when I played. If you want to burn money on a future neo combat game that different, play NeoCron Evo 2.2 with the new patch it rokkz!!!!!!!!!!! But i just kant afford the 14.99 a month :( but oh well... the game IS free like someone said TR should be lol but oh well.
    So yeah.. TR is a good game but you have to know how to play it, mostly with friends and in a swat combat way and enjoy the single player like build of it, dont rush threw it.. read the quest. Get involved.
    Ehh, good? Its an average game IMO. It really doesnt do anything that other games like this dont already do. Its like playing a really big Gulf of Oman for a few unlocks, then its off to Wake Island, then Strike...so on and so on.
    Now to agree on most of the major post.. TR is boring lol.. but thats only after about a month or two... $50 +$15 a month is a very huge money sink to play a game you'll stop playing in 2 or 3 months but its realli up to the gamer.
    Agree, individual results will vary. I found it entertaining for about a week and a half, mildly amusing for another week or so, then just stopped playing all together.
     
    IIIIFFFF you're really interested in TR.. wait a few more month for it to be patched and add way more content.. i'll probably improve greatly ever 3 to 6 months.
    Again, I agree. I might check TR out again in 6 months, see if they have fixed many of the bugged quests, see if there is anything more than the point-click-shoot model (not really holding my breath though)
     
    If you want to try some FREE games. Stuff I'm playing right now: WolfTeam, Xteel, Shaiya, World of Kung-Fu
    All are very fun and mildly well done.. the 1st two are pure PvP. dont try to PvP in a RPG game, it'll never be balanced.
    And once again.. if you're cool with paying and need a real game, play NeoCron Evo 2.2 with the new patch. And just to add.. they are not done, they're adding new Vehicles, you can buy ur own apartments and clan apartments, drive tanks, fight all kind of mobs that deal different types of damage you'll have to change your gear alot but its not to much of a problem, Each weapon is xtremly different. <3 the 4Wheeler for all you off roaders!
    Crafting system is the best I've seen EVER. I've yet to see someone top it, it kant be realli.. only cloned. Play on and enjoy ur selfs... later guys and girls
    , but am looking at Neocron. From the feature list seems very AO with a fresh coat of paint. It does have a 10 day trial as well.

     

  • CryptorCryptor Member UncommonPosts: 523

    Logo's, which honistly is the only "new" thing in this game

    Its just sad how far off you are with your comments.  On a positive note the game is great and thousands people are havign a great time playing it, including myself.

  • BlkcatBlkcat Member Posts: 152

    Originally posted by Cryptor


    Logo's, which honistly is the only "new" thing in this game
    Its just sad how far off you are with your comments.  On a positive note the game is great and thousands people are havign a great time playing it, including myself.

    Well, to me it was the only new thing, but I have played alot of games. Be that as it may, care to elaborate where I'm off the mark? Least I was polite enough to actually express my opinions and supported those opinions with in game experiences.

     

    What else is new about TR?

  • CryptorCryptor Member UncommonPosts: 523

    No, I really don't ccare to elaborate, I wasted enough time in this pointless thread as it is :)  But good luck to you in whatever innovative game you are now playing :)

    In the spirit of the thread - Negative thinking FTW !

  • _Shadowmage_Shadowmage Member Posts: 1,459


    Originally posted by Blkcat
    First off, the graphics really didnt impress me. Little grittier than WoW, and not as much customization. Maybe thats a byproduct of my video card, but I doubt it, x800 GTO.

    Well with a 3 year old card I am guessing you arent playing it on the highest settings.



    Must say though, did like the little roll animation for when you fell more than jumping distance. Sad though that it has absolutely no tactical advantage.

    Depending on weapon you can shoot at your target whilst jumping off a cliff.


    As of the first month of live, there was no built in voice chat, which seems kinda odd to me with a squad type MMO, but thats me. The lack of voice chat means you have to take your eyes off what your doing in order to talk to someone, anyone.

    Voice chat has been in beta since 10 months before going live. You press the V key to talk.

    Personally I use Skype as its always on and I dont have to hit an extra key.


    About the best part of the combat are CP's, or control points, and those got real old, real fast. Mainly, there was little organization, and little reason for any.

    I am still enjoying the CP battles. Different base layouts can change the tactics quite a bit. If the base has two entrances - then you can be defending one and the base still gets overrun. If it has a tower - you can fall back when the base is overrun, hide and retake the base, or just snipe the bane from the windows.

    Defending the bases on Plateau south near Maligo base - your mini-map is just covered in red dots.



    Your just trying to blast more Bane than the guy next to you so you get the XP and loot from it. Basicly, I just carpet bombed the hell out of em. Granted, this more often than not ended with me dieing, but not because a Bane shot me. NOOOO, that might make sense. No, I'd die more often than not because a particular type of Bane, called a Linker, or five of em, were also in the crowd I just bombed. Why should this matter you might ask? Linkers deal much of the damage that you do to them, right back at you. They dont have to be targeting you to do this, it just happens. Hit two or three of these in a spread, and your toast, period. Now if you dont have the carpet bomb skill, your other best option is a shotgun. Sad to say, same thing ends up happening.

    I hate to say you are wrong - but in this case you are wrong. The linkers only do damage if they are linked to you. Linkers are my first target in a fight - I hate these things. And yes I sometimes die when shooting them - but only if they have linked to me.

    Carpet bombing will aggro absolutely everything so they all attack you.


    While you could use a single target weapon/skill to avoid most of this, then your grind gets 10x longer, and it is a grind. First there is the grind to 30, so you can get your first specialization,

    30 is your last specialization. You specialise at 5, 15 and 30.


    then there is the grind to find the right mods you want for your weapons/armor at the right lvl.  While you might be able to get away with saying this is a "quest" based game, the quests have little impact on the world your in, the fight with the Bane, or anything else for that matter.

    Two words - Surplus store. Dont bother running around looking for a drop - go to the surplus store and buy the best gear your money can buy.

    Surprisingly there are quests that effect the game. In divide predators spawn at the launch bay and fly down the trench. If you do the quest to call in a strike team - those NPC's will sit near the launch bay and take down the predators. Which means they arent flying around the trenches killing people.



    Logo's, which honistly is the only "new" thing in this game, feel really clunky. Long lead in animations, short durations, and lack luster results make you wonder why your spending 60% of the game looking for the damn things, many of which you will never use. Maybe there is some super special power you get when you have all of em,(then again probably not) but I got super bored with it all.

    Lets see - new for a MMORPG - cover, cloning, fast pace, tactics.


    That about sums up the game to me. It just doesnt stand out. Average graphics with sub-par animations. Repetitive combat and  extremely shallow crafting/customization options. Not even much of a community.
     
    That of course is your opinion - which you are entitled to. I agree on the crafting. Graphics seem fine to me.

    Animations - they have some great animations - things like the Stalkers spawning, the way they slam into the ground, unfold, stand up. Stalkers dying etc.

  • BlkcatBlkcat Member Posts: 152
    Originally posted by _Shadowmage


     

    Originally posted by Blkcat

    First off, the graphics really didnt impress me. Little grittier than WoW, and not as much customization. Maybe thats a byproduct of my video card, but I doubt it, x800 GTO.


     

    Well with a 3 year old card I am guessing you arent playing it on the highest settings.

    Actually, you would be wrong. The x800 GTO cards work better the harder you run them.

     



    Must say though, did like the little roll animation for when you fell more than jumping distance. Sad though that it has absolutely no tactical advantage.

     

    Depending on weapon you can shoot at your target whilst jumping off a cliff.

    And that has what all to do with the forward roll?

     



    As of the first month of live, there was no built in voice chat, which seems kinda odd to me with a squad type MMO, but thats me. The lack of voice chat means you have to take your eyes off what your doing in order to talk to someone, anyone.

     

    Voice chat has been in beta since 10 months before going live. You press the V key to talk.

    Personally I use Skype as its always on and I dont have to hit an extra key.

    After looking back though the booklet, your right. Guess I just never used it.

     



    About the best part of the combat are CP's, or control points, and those got real old, real fast. Mainly, there was little organization, and little reason for any.

     

    I am still enjoying the CP battles. Different base layouts can change the tactics quite a bit. If the base has two entrances - then you can be defending one and the base still gets overrun. If it has a tower - you can fall back when the base is overrun, hide and retake the base, or just snipe the bane from the windows.

    Defending the bases on Plateau south near Maligo base - your mini-map is just covered in red dots.

     





    Your just trying to blast more Bane than the guy next to you so you get the XP and loot from it. Basicly, I just carpet bombed the hell out of em. Granted, this more often than not ended with me dieing, but not because a Bane shot me. NOOOO, that might make sense. No, I'd die more often than not because a particular type of Bane, called a Linker, or five of em, were also in the crowd I just bombed. Why should this matter you might ask? Linkers deal much of the damage that you do to them, right back at you. They dont have to be targeting you to do this, it just happens. Hit two or three of these in a spread, and your toast, period. Now if you dont have the carpet bomb skill, your other best option is a shotgun. Sad to say, same thing ends up happening.

     

    I hate to say you are wrong - but in this case you are wrong. The linkers only do damage if they are linked to you. Linkers are my first target in a fight - I hate these things. And yes I sometimes die when shooting them - but only if they have linked to me.

    Carpet bombing will aggro absolutely everything so they all attack you.

    The carpet bomb itself drawing aggro, yes, but in that example the carpet bombing itself should not hurt you, as the linkers are not targeting you when it goes off, but that was what was happening. It wouldnt matter if I just got to the CP while the attack was even in progress, meaning I couldnt have built up any aggro on the mob first.

     



    While you could use a single target weapon/skill to avoid most of this, then your grind gets 10x longer, and it is a grind. First there is the grind to 30, so you can get your first specialization,

     

    30 is your last specialization. You specialise at 5, 15 and 30.

    You progress at 5, 15, and 30, but your first specialization is at 30. Thats when I got sniper.

     



    then there is the grind to find the right mods you want for your weapons/armor at the right lvl.  While you might be able to get away with saying this is a "quest" based game, the quests have little impact on the world your in, the fight with the Bane, or anything else for that matter.

     

    Two words - Surplus store. Dont bother running around looking for a drop - go to the surplus store and buy the best gear your money can buy.

    Wasnt in game at launch. Wasnt in game when I left either, which means that its a new addition. When I left, aprox 23 days after launch, all you could buy was "generic" weapons. All the mods were gained through either CP tokens, mob drops, or quest rewards. All the mod parts were only gained through taking apart other items. If this has changed, great.

    Surprisingly there are quests that effect the game. In divide predators spawn at the launch bay and fly down the trench. If you do the quest to call in a strike team - those NPC's will sit near the launch bay and take down the predators. Which means they arent flying around the trenches killing people.

    For how long? Do they not go right back to the trenches a few min later? It changed nothing in the grand scheme of things. You did not weaken the Bane in any way that matters. The best example you could have used to try to show where I might have been in error, would have been CP's, but again, it has no real effect on the war. It really doesnt matter who has it, aside from if you get offense or defensive tokens.

     





    Logo's, which honistly is the only "new" thing in this game, feel really clunky. Long lead in animations, short durations, and lack luster results make you wonder why your spending 60% of the game looking for the damn things, many of which you will never use. Maybe there is some super special power you get when you have all of em,(then again probably not) but I got super bored with it all.

     

    Lets see - new for a MMORPG - cover, cloning, fast pace, tactics.

    Cover was used in the origional SWG, pre CU, the fast pace was done in SWG:NGE. Cloning was done in Eve, and tactics are used in any war/competitive online game. Hell, even WoW players use tactics. So, again, aside from logo's, what else is ground breaking on this game?

     



    That about sums up the game to me. It just doesnt stand out. Average graphics with sub-par animations. Repetitive combat and  extremely shallow crafting/customization options. Not even much of a community.

     

    That of course is your opinion - which you are entitled to. I agree on the crafting. Graphics seem fine to me.

     

    Animations - they have some great animations - things like the Stalkers spawning, the way they slam into the ground, unfold, stand up. Stalkers dying etc.

    I will agree that the Stalker spawn was nice, but thats one in how many? Care to comment on the stick up the arse jump?

     

     

  • syeagersyeager Member Posts: 10

    So it all comes down to hardcore players who don't really like TR.  Hey, don't forget me.  I am a casual player and I didn't like it either.  What's left?  :)  Who likes it?

  • cmgangrelcmgangrel Member UncommonPosts: 152

    1) The gfx part, the X800GTO only supports DirectX 9.0b, (and to support shader model 3.0 you need directX 9.0C), so you are already missing out on part of the looks in the game.

    2) The specialisation part. I view the path from Recruit (Tier 1) to Spy/Sniper/Medic etc (Tier 4) as becoming more specialised as you progress. So therefore in my eyes, and i assume as well Shadowmage's, is that Tier 4 (level 30) is currently the last stage of Specialisation as it stands right now.

    3) The Military Surplus (PLayer selling point, call it what you will) came in around 11th December.

    4) In the case of the linkers, whenever they have the red bubble around them, i never use any attack on them. It will automatically reflect that damage back onto you. Of course, once they fire their blast off, then its open season on them. Carpet bombing (especially at the higher ranks) is very hard to get right in CP's especially with linkers. Unless you can see all of the linkers, and that they have all used their 'bubble' then i would never use Carpet Bomb near them. Especially seeing as the Carpet Bomb isnt instantaneous, there is nothing to stop 1 or 2 of them from starting up their charge (and of course, when the bombs land you then get killed by the reflected damage).

    5) The CP's do have a use (ie easier travelling for the player) until that person has ALL the waypoints. The player can slowly inch their way across a whole battlefield from the hospital (which could be miles away) or if they had the CP, come back there, and then not have to worry about running as far (kinda helpful when you start thinking about how much stuff is flying in the later zones... and that the last (or only) major hospital base in some cases is on the far left of the map. But you need to be at the far right of the map.... The CP's can help ease that journey.

    Yes more effects from the war would be handy, and also to make things sustainable. BUT the one thing then that is left, is that the newer players would be missing out on part of the story line for that zone. For example, with that predator base, unless the players are constantly destroying it, wouldnt it make sense that the bane would rebuild and restart partrolling around there again (ok maybe not as fast as it currently is) but you get the idea.

    6) Yes you have listed of several games with features that TR has, but how many of them have it all in one? And the eve cloning is interesting, especially seeing as they are using it in a different fashion (yes they both allow you to save your character, but the Tabula Rasa version also allows you to reallocate skill points and soon attribute points as well)

    7) The point about the logos is interesting as well... especially seeing as some abilities now have faster cast times compared to what they used to be (ie rage). Infact some classes are undergoing a change anyway on the test server in terms of how the logos are working (contant work inprogress to be honest) with durations, power costs, cast times being looked at.

    8) You have listed one animation that you dont like, i happen to like a lot of the animation in game. Yes there are 'strange ones' (like maybe the jumping as you say), but then again i can call that in most other games as well. The falling animation is one that does throw me though (especially from high heights).

     

    Of course, all the above is my own opinion and no one elses. YMMV

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