Originally posted by xenogias Most footage right now is by people who are playing for the first time. Even the most boring PvP there is more moving around than that. But the verry first time you pick up a game your not focusing on PvP tactics ect, your getting used to the play.
you speak truth I shouldnt be critical of early footage
Depending on how polished the game is in beta, it may be a good indication of final product. The fact that they held things off to polish them better in the first place seems to be a good start (I hope)....I'm truly hoping they learned from the goods and bads of DAOC and came up with great product this time around. With that said, I think RVR is going to be one of the big high-points of WAR. If they create reasons for end-game PVE as well the combination may be a win over WOW.
This game will not even come close to winning over wow. It is my opinion there will not be another mmo success like wow again until blizzard releases its next gen mmo. This game so far looks like crap to me and I will hold judgement until it releases but from what I see is it looks like an updated daoc. This is 2008 why are they making this look like a game that released 4 years ago? This game may be fun and I will try it out,but I am not impressed by its graphics or its combat animations at all. I am tired of wow and will give it a fair shot. Too Bad SWG Pre-Cu is not around I would play it over wow or warhammer any day.
Depending on how polished the game is in beta, it may be a good indication of final product. The fact that they held things off to polish them better in the first place seems to be a good start (I hope)....I'm truly hoping they learned from the goods and bads of DAOC and came up with great product this time around. With that said, I think RVR is going to be one of the big high-points of WAR. If they create reasons for end-game PVE as well the combination may be a win over WOW.
This game will not even come close to winning over wow. It is my opinion there will not be another mmo success like wow again until blizzard releases its next gen mmo. This game so far looks like crap to me and I will hold judgement until it releases but from what I see is it looks like an updated daoc. This is 2008 why are they making this look like a game that released 4 years ago? This game may be fun and I will try it out,but I am not impressed by its graphics or its combat animations at all. I am tired of wow and will give it a fair shot. Too Bad SWG Pre-Cu is not around I would play it over wow or warhammer any day.
I think he was talking about overall quality not the subscriber numbers. Unless you meant something else.
Again, watch the WoW video that blizz made with the same concept during there beta on my post a few pages up... Can you honestly say WoW looked awesome from that clip? It was the same slow non moving combat etc.. These videos have nothing to do with full on game play imo, it's just a basic promo.. Thats it..
Just watch the video, same thing. WoW looked awful, slow and dull. Obviously WoW wasn't that, WoW ended up having good fluid animations and a nice paced combat.. Sure couldn't tell from the video..
Gee, shocker.. these promo videos don't mean anything.
Edit: http://youtube.com/watch?v=VmOzOQwsk_Q <--- WoW video looks JUST the same from Beta... slow... stand in place swinging like an idiot.. Looks horrible.
What do you expect from a basic beta promo video? All out game mechanics?
It's because everyone's standing still when they fight!
(explained why in the other video though lol)
I'm curious what reason was given why they stand still like that? Just curious I'm not trying to be negative or anything. I have not been keeping up with WAR much at all nor have I played DAoC
Paul explains why they are standing still at the beginning of the video.
It's because everyone's standing still when they fight!
(explained why in the other video though lol)
I'm curious what reason was given why they stand still like that? Just curious I'm not trying to be negative or anything. I have not been keeping up with WAR much at all nor have I played DAoC
Paul explains why they are standing still at the beginning of the video.
QFE!
In the Podcast that come out in the same time as the video, they explain that every scene in the video was staged because it was some sort of basic beta promo.
ahh found this on the homepage where you download the video:
"What’s it like on the battlefields of WAR? Well, it might very well look something like this new video we have to share with you. These RvR battles were filmed for an internal presentation so you’ll see lots of people standing around beating on each others (we needed them to remain relatively still to capture the footage we needed!). Those of you that have experienced real RvR before know that battles are a lot more fluid and that no one ever stays stationary for long. Enjoy!"
I dont really get people who judge things so fast and easy. What do I know...the game may suck or it may be great. But Im not gonna judge it before I played it. And as a side note I can say that I will try AoC too. I might hate both of them and quit...or love them both and play them both.... who knows.
I'm pretty sure I will be playing both as well... I guess I should say, I will be trying both. Not sure which one I am going to stick with or which one I will like better right now. I just know that this video is in no way a promotional campaign to attract people to Warhammer. It is more like a wtf is that video, watch it for 10 seconds, turn it off, and head back to Youtube to find some real footage.
Am i the only one that's not impressed and think the game looks more 2001 than 2008?
Relax... this video was not "real" gameplay, it was a staged "act" they were doing in front of an audience. Of course the game isn't to its graphical optimization yet though, have patience it will be!!
I dunno i've been burnt every time int he past by hyping up a mmorpg and then being let down, mostly from SOE but still i'm starting to think that them animations will be launched with the game and all them horrible smudged low detailed textures are going in with it too...... If the game looks as bad as that graphically then i can't play that i mean them animations and textures just get on my nerves.
Looks like WoW. I'm not saying it won't be great, but it looks just like WoW.
I don't know why people keep saying that. I think the people who have ONLY played WoW thinks it looks like WoW. In truth, it looks more like Daoc than anything (with MUCH BETTER graphics.. which is the way I like it).
Actally... seeing as it's techcially the only Warhammer fantasy game that has caught the attaintion of the mass market (seeing as Warhammer games are 'mostly' 40K based) and seeing as you can't turn a coner these days without seeing somthing Warcraft related, anyone not firmillar with Warhammer Fantasy will assume it looks 'WoW-ish'..
To those who know Warhammer Fantasy... it looks 'Warhammer-ish'
I know warhammer Fantasy. I'm a fan of Warhammer.
Still.. It's so similar to WoW it is frightening.
Press 1, 2, 3 - New mob to kill - 1, 2, 3 - (4) put up a 3 mins buff - New mob - 1, 2, 3, O! LvL 45!
Chat to guild: Ding! 45!
But then again.. what mmo isnt like this ? (exept very few mmos like EvE & Guild Wars, but what if you dont like "spacegames" or instances?)
Looks awesome. I don't understand why people say it looks like WoW... I see nothing of WoW in this, and I've been playing it since beta. The graphics are much smoother, more polished, and much less cartoony than WoW's.
I don't think WAR will be out by 2008 Q2..... It looked okay but i wasn't impressed by the looks of it but then again the fellahs in the very first wow gametrailer all stood still while fighting aswell the dynamics came later so i'm curious how WAR will look in a more finished state with pvp people around...
I don't think WAR will be out by 2008 Q2..... It looked okay but i wasn't impressed by the looks of it but then again the fellahs in the very first wow gametrailer all stood still while fighting aswell the dynamics came later so i'm curious how WAR will look in a more finished state with pvp people around...
I reckon release Christmas 2008 or even early 2009.
Well, I read the most replies on this topic and I 60% of the posters didn't saw all the videos. This video was a set up. The whole WAR team knew what to do and like Paul said: "This is not RvR combat". Look on youtube you see new RvR videos with great graphics and it's not static at all.
This video was crap imo and it gave a bad impression. The graphics sucked in this video, but i saw many other videos with great graphics, so I think they made this video months ago. If you look at normal RvR videos you see that people are running around, hiding, searching for good nuke places and they will never go 1 on 1, because that never works well in team vs team combat.
I still believe that this game will be great, but people who say this game suck, because they saw this video are just stupid... Look more videos or just wait until they release the game.
Same with AoC, people are complaining about it because they saw 4 videos they didn't like. Maybe AoC will be the best game ever excisted. Maybe will WAR.
It's starting to look really good. I'm sure it will be much more intense in final release when people are actually going to war instead of just testing.
This is not a PvP test, LISTEN to what Paul says at the beginning. It was part of 30 minute presentaion for the suits at EA.
Yeah I was wondering where everyone got that this is a pvp or rvr video. If you dont think WAR is going to do well thats fine no one here cares. Just make sure you come back when you are playing WAR and we can remind you of all the crap you had to say how the game wasnt going to do good. Everyone else talking about blizzard are a bunch of pve/loot whore_s so I could careless what you guys think. Bye bye then...
It's starting to look really good. I'm sure it will be much more intense in final release when people are actually going to war instead of just testing.
This is not a PvP test, LISTEN to what Paul says at the beginning. It was part of 30 minute presentaion for the suits at EA.
*shrug* Presentation, test.. same thing. Either way, it's not a real representation of what rvr would be like. I'm aware of this. If you want to lecture soembody, LISTEN to those trashing it because they think it's the real deal. I never claimed that this was the real representation of what RvR would be like. Hence, the disclaimer that when people actually fight each other rather than testing/presenting it, it would be different. LISTEN.
Looked like shit to me i mean WOW looks good because it has such a great art style which makes the game look better than games like EQ2 which has more polygons. Friggin this game has the bland art style of DAOC and the bad graphics of DAOC which is like a 7 year old game.........
I reckon this game will flop harder than Vanguard, probably have more subs but theres sooo much hype over this game, many many people will be disappointed. You can tell with all the footage so far and only like 6 months left in development that this game will be no good.
The animations are a complete joke too.
WOW's expansion is just gonna step all over this game.
Looked like shit to me i mean WOW looks good because it has such a great art style which makes the game look better than games like EQ2 which has more polygons. Friggin this game has the bland art style of DAOC and the bad graphics of DAOC which is like a 7 year old game......... I reckon this game will flop harder than Vanguard, probably have more subs but theres sooo much hype over this game, many many people will be disappointed. You can tell with all the footage so far and only like 6 months left in development that this game will be no good. The animations are a complete joke too.
WOW's expansion is just gonna step all over this game.
Miffy have you even looked at any of Warhammer's art?
or
Do you have any idea what IP greatly influenced Blizzards creation of Warcraft?
EDIT: I'll give you some links to artwork after a class I have at 11. For now you can watch this.
Looked like shit to me i mean WOW looks good because it has such a great art style which makes the game look better than games like EQ2 which has more polygons. Friggin this game has the bland art style of DAOC and the bad graphics of DAOC which is like a 7 year old game......... I reckon this game will flop harder than Vanguard, probably have more subs but theres sooo much hype over this game, many many people will be disappointed. You can tell with all the footage so far and only like 6 months left in development that this game will be no good. The animations are a complete joke too.
WOW's expansion is just gonna step all over this game.
Looked like shit to me i mean WOW looks good because it has such a great art style which makes the game look better than games like EQ2 which has more polygons. Friggin this game has the bland art style of DAOC and the bad graphics of DAOC which is like a 7 year old game......... I reckon this game will flop harder than Vanguard, probably have more subs but theres sooo much hype over this game, many many people will be disappointed. You can tell with all the footage so far and only like 6 months left in development that this game will be no good. The animations are a complete joke too.
WOW's expansion is just gonna step all over this game.
Miffy have you even looked at any of Warhammer's art?
or
Do you have any idea what IP greatly influenced Blizzards creation of Warcraft?
EDIT: I'll give you some links to artwork after a class I have at 11. For now you can watch this.
Yeh the concept art looks really great but once it's in game it just looks total crap, more like DAOC than Warhammer. Also the games tooo cartoony and bright colours for Warhammer and all the time i've known warhammer it's meant to look more like the CG trailer than w/e crap they made. Also the textures are all soooo low detail and horrible it just looks real bad.
WOW looks sooo much better.
Also i don't care if Blizzard stole the idea off of Warhammer because warhammer stole their ideas off someone else and it always happens with everything.
Looked like shit to me i mean WOW looks good because it has such a great art style which makes the game look better than games like EQ2 which has more polygons. Friggin this game has the bland art style of DAOC and the bad graphics of DAOC which is like a 7 year old game......... I reckon this game will flop harder than Vanguard, probably have more subs but theres sooo much hype over this game, many many people will be disappointed. You can tell with all the footage so far and only like 6 months left in development that this game will be no good. The animations are a complete joke too.
WOW's expansion is just gonna step all over this game.
Ya thats right lol game going to flop thats funny
Not at all because i think it will and if it does you'll be kicking yourself that you posted this.
I know this is an A,B conversation, but I had to but in. I'm guessing you were talking about the trials of Atlantis expansion, among other things?
Either way I've played DAoC and I've worked for GW retail (and I left amicably). That said, I'm going to play AoC. AoC just seems to offer alot more PvE side plus the PvP than WAR. I prefer some PvP, but I don't want that to be 95% of an MMO I'm playing. If I want that much PvP I'll jump into COD4 for a few hours. Plus, I prefer AoC's visuals to WAR's. For instance, I have yet to see a WAR movie where the character model's hair swayed in realistic fashion. That's not a knock, just a fact, for me. I prefer that kinda look . I hope both games see success, AoC because that's where I'll be, and WAR b/c it will allow GW that extra capital to develope their others areas such as their tabletop interests, which I still play.
Im just curious what sort of crack your smoking to think AoC has more PvE to offer than WAR. AoC is a giant expensive instanced version of Shadowbane. Its almost primarily geared towards Guilds & PvP. They talk so little about their PvE offerings it makes me wonder if they have any beyond the generic quests & end game raids.
WAR is almost 50/50 when it comes to PvE & PvP, parts of the game actually has them somewhat entertwined instead of "ok this is what you get when you pvp and this is what you get when you PvE" WAR is treating them fairly equally important factors . (almost not completely it does slant more to rvr at end game but it still has plenty of PvE). Its realm based instead of Guild based making it more PvE friendly to folks who don't want to slave for some ultimate evil Player Lord and just all around more PvE awsome. I'm a pretty big PvE'er though I enjoy some PvPing / RvR when I feel up to it and I wouldn't touch Age of Conan with a ten foot pole even if WAR wasn't even in existance I'd never play Age of Conan due to its uber guild / pvp / RAID centricness.
I guess if Visuals are all that make the game you dont' mind tons of instances. You know they're going to sacrafice alot in order to make the game hopefully work with such high graphics. I mean honestly who has time to sit around and watch their hair sway with the wind? Sounds like a waste of client side CPU. I mean EQ2 / Vanguard anyone? Both rather high graphics game adn both pretty much suck wind for actually running properly on a standard pc.
While AoC will do well its only going to do well with the Guild Minded / PvE high end Raid minded folks. True PvE'ers I think will flock back to WoW or give WAR a pretty strong shot. ( 25 - 40 man pve raids are a bastardized version of PvE).
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you speak truth I shouldnt be critical of early footage
This game will not even come close to winning over wow. It is my opinion there will not be another mmo success like wow again until blizzard releases its next gen mmo. This game so far looks like crap to me and I will hold judgement until it releases but from what I see is it looks like an updated daoc. This is 2008 why are they making this look like a game that released 4 years ago? This game may be fun and I will try it out,but I am not impressed by its graphics or its combat animations at all. I am tired of wow and will give it a fair shot. Too Bad SWG Pre-Cu is not around I would play it over wow or warhammer any day.
What's the point of this video? Was it that hard to capture some real RVR? As for glory, I stopped watching after 10 seconds.
This game will not even come close to winning over wow. It is my opinion there will not be another mmo success like wow again until blizzard releases its next gen mmo. This game so far looks like crap to me and I will hold judgement until it releases but from what I see is it looks like an updated daoc. This is 2008 why are they making this look like a game that released 4 years ago? This game may be fun and I will try it out,but I am not impressed by its graphics or its combat animations at all. I am tired of wow and will give it a fair shot. Too Bad SWG Pre-Cu is not around I would play it over wow or warhammer any day.
I think he was talking about overall quality not the subscriber numbers. Unless you meant something else.
Again, watch the WoW video that blizz made with the same concept during there beta on my post a few pages up... Can you honestly say WoW looked awesome from that clip? It was the same slow non moving combat etc.. These videos have nothing to do with full on game play imo, it's just a basic promo.. Thats it..
Just watch the video, same thing. WoW looked awful, slow and dull. Obviously WoW wasn't that, WoW ended up having good fluid animations and a nice paced combat.. Sure couldn't tell from the video..
Gee, shocker.. these promo videos don't mean anything.
Edit: http://youtube.com/watch?v=VmOzOQwsk_Q <--- WoW video looks JUST the same from Beta... slow... stand in place swinging like an idiot.. Looks horrible.
What do you expect from a basic beta promo video? All out game mechanics?
I'm curious what reason was given why they stand still like that? Just curious I'm not trying to be negative or anything. I have not been keeping up with WAR much at all nor have I played DAoC
Paul explains why they are standing still at the beginning of the video.
I'm curious what reason was given why they stand still like that? Just curious I'm not trying to be negative or anything. I have not been keeping up with WAR much at all nor have I played DAoC
QFE!Paul explains why they are standing still at the beginning of the video.
In the Podcast that come out in the same time as the video, they explain that every scene in the video was staged because it was some sort of basic beta promo.
ahh found this on the homepage where you download the video:
"What’s it like on the battlefields of WAR? Well, it might very well look something like this new video we have to share with you. These RvR battles were filmed for an internal presentation so you’ll see lots of people standing around beating on each others (we needed them to remain relatively still to capture the footage we needed!). Those of you that have experienced real RvR before know that battles are a lot more fluid and that no one ever stays stationary for long. Enjoy!"
I dont really get people who judge things so fast and easy. What do I know...the game may suck or it may be great. But Im not gonna judge it before I played it. And as a side note I can say that I will try AoC too. I might hate both of them and quit...or love them both and play them both.... who knows.
The Second Day Vet
I'm pretty sure I will be playing both as well... I guess I should say, I will be trying both. Not sure which one I am going to stick with or which one I will like better right now. I just know that this video is in no way a promotional campaign to attract people to Warhammer. It is more like a wtf is that video, watch it for 10 seconds, turn it off, and head back to Youtube to find some real footage.
Am i the only one that's not impressed and think the game looks more 2001 than 2008?
Relax... this video was not "real" gameplay, it was a staged "act" they were doing in front of an audience. Of course the game isn't to its graphical optimization yet though, have patience it will be!!
I dunno i've been burnt every time int he past by hyping up a mmorpg and then being let down, mostly from SOE but still i'm starting to think that them animations will be launched with the game and all them horrible smudged low detailed textures are going in with it too...... If the game looks as bad as that graphically then i can't play that i mean them animations and textures just get on my nerves.
I don't know why people keep saying that. I think the people who have ONLY played WoW thinks it looks like WoW. In truth, it looks more like Daoc than anything (with MUCH BETTER graphics.. which is the way I like it).
Actally... seeing as it's techcially the only Warhammer fantasy game that has caught the attaintion of the mass market (seeing as Warhammer games are 'mostly' 40K based) and seeing as you can't turn a coner these days without seeing somthing Warcraft related, anyone not firmillar with Warhammer Fantasy will assume it looks 'WoW-ish'..
To those who know Warhammer Fantasy... it looks 'Warhammer-ish'
I know warhammer Fantasy. I'm a fan of Warhammer.
Still.. It's so similar to WoW it is frightening.
Press 1, 2, 3 - New mob to kill - 1, 2, 3 - (4) put up a 3 mins buff - New mob - 1, 2, 3, O! LvL 45!
Chat to guild: Ding! 45!
But then again.. what mmo isnt like this ? (exept very few mmos like EvE & Guild Wars, but what if you dont like "spacegames" or instances?)
Sad really..
Last hope, Darkfall
Paul says it straight up in the opening of the video,
"This is NOT footage of an RvR fight cause people would be casting spells and jumping around like lunatics"
Looks awesome. I don't understand why people say it looks like WoW... I see nothing of WoW in this, and I've been playing it since beta. The graphics are much smoother, more polished, and much less cartoony than WoW's.
this reminds me of the very first WoW gameplay trailer in 2001..... scroll down to the buttom and you'll find it.
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/movies.html
I don't think WAR will be out by 2008 Q2..... It looked okay but i wasn't impressed by the looks of it but then again the fellahs in the very first wow gametrailer all stood still while fighting aswell the dynamics came later so i'm curious how WAR will look in a more finished state with pvp people around...
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
I reckon release Christmas 2008 or even early 2009.
Well, I read the most replies on this topic and I 60% of the posters didn't saw all the videos. This video was a set up. The whole WAR team knew what to do and like Paul said: "This is not RvR combat". Look on youtube you see new RvR videos with great graphics and it's not static at all.
This video was crap imo and it gave a bad impression. The graphics sucked in this video, but i saw many other videos with great graphics, so I think they made this video months ago. If you look at normal RvR videos you see that people are running around, hiding, searching for good nuke places and they will never go 1 on 1, because that never works well in team vs team combat.
I still believe that this game will be great, but people who say this game suck, because they saw this video are just stupid... Look more videos or just wait until they release the game.
Same with AoC, people are complaining about it because they saw 4 videos they didn't like. Maybe AoC will be the best game ever excisted. Maybe will WAR.
This is not a PvP test, LISTEN to what Paul says at the beginning. It was part of 30 minute presentaion for the suits at EA.
Yeah I was wondering where everyone got that this is a pvp or rvr video. If you dont think WAR is going to do well thats fine no one here cares. Just make sure you come back when you are playing WAR and we can remind you of all the crap you had to say how the game wasnt going to do good. Everyone else talking about blizzard are a bunch of pve/loot whore_s so I could careless what you guys think. Bye bye then...
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This is not a PvP test, LISTEN to what Paul says at the beginning. It was part of 30 minute presentaion for the suits at EA.
*shrug* Presentation, test.. same thing. Either way, it's not a real representation of what rvr would be like. I'm aware of this. If you want to lecture soembody, LISTEN to those trashing it because they think it's the real deal. I never claimed that this was the real representation of what RvR would be like. Hence, the disclaimer that when people actually fight each other rather than testing/presenting it, it would be different. LISTEN.
Looked like shit to me i mean WOW looks good because it has such a great art style which makes the game look better than games like EQ2 which has more polygons. Friggin this game has the bland art style of DAOC and the bad graphics of DAOC which is like a 7 year old game.........
I reckon this game will flop harder than Vanguard, probably have more subs but theres sooo much hype over this game, many many people will be disappointed. You can tell with all the footage so far and only like 6 months left in development that this game will be no good.
The animations are a complete joke too.
WOW's expansion is just gonna step all over this game.
Miffy have you even looked at any of Warhammer's art?
or
Do you have any idea what IP greatly influenced Blizzards creation of Warcraft?
EDIT: I'll give you some links to artwork after a class I have at 11. For now you can watch this.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9_oZU3TiQPQ
Ya thats right lol game going to flop thats funny
Miffy have you even looked at any of Warhammer's art?
or
Do you have any idea what IP greatly influenced Blizzards creation of Warcraft?
EDIT: I'll give you some links to artwork after a class I have at 11. For now you can watch this.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9_oZU3TiQPQ
Yeh the concept art looks really great but once it's in game it just looks total crap, more like DAOC than Warhammer. Also the games tooo cartoony and bright colours for Warhammer and all the time i've known warhammer it's meant to look more like the CG trailer than w/e crap they made. Also the textures are all soooo low detail and horrible it just looks real bad.
WOW looks sooo much better.
Also i don't care if Blizzard stole the idea off of Warhammer because warhammer stole their ideas off someone else and it always happens with everything.
Ya thats right lol game going to flop thats funny
Not at all because i think it will and if it does you'll be kicking yourself that you posted this.
Im just curious what sort of crack your smoking to think AoC has more PvE to offer than WAR. AoC is a giant expensive instanced version of Shadowbane. Its almost primarily geared towards Guilds & PvP. They talk so little about their PvE offerings it makes me wonder if they have any beyond the generic quests & end game raids.
WAR is almost 50/50 when it comes to PvE & PvP, parts of the game actually has them somewhat entertwined instead of "ok this is what you get when you pvp and this is what you get when you PvE" WAR is treating them fairly equally important factors . (almost not completely it does slant more to rvr at end game but it still has plenty of PvE). Its realm based instead of Guild based making it more PvE friendly to folks who don't want to slave for some ultimate evil Player Lord and just all around more PvE awsome. I'm a pretty big PvE'er though I enjoy some PvPing / RvR when I feel up to it and I wouldn't touch Age of Conan with a ten foot pole even if WAR wasn't even in existance I'd never play Age of Conan due to its uber guild / pvp / RAID centricness.
I guess if Visuals are all that make the game you dont' mind tons of instances. You know they're going to sacrafice alot in order to make the game hopefully work with such high graphics. I mean honestly who has time to sit around and watch their hair sway with the wind? Sounds like a waste of client side CPU. I mean EQ2 / Vanguard anyone? Both rather high graphics game adn both pretty much suck wind for actually running properly on a standard pc.
While AoC will do well its only going to do well with the Guild Minded / PvE high end Raid minded folks. True PvE'ers I think will flock back to WoW or give WAR a pretty strong shot. ( 25 - 40 man pve raids are a bastardized version of PvE).
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!