You guys don't understand: We know the old game isn't coming back. We aren't trying to get it back from SOE. I can't speak for other vets but I want SWG to shut down so a new Star Wars mmo can be created.
Selfish much, i mean people that say things like shutting down a game should really leave and NEVER play these type of games, stick with single player games where it is okay to be selfish but stay away from MMO's please as in MMO's we do not need people that are selfish.
Meaning when a game still holds people that seem to enjoy the game who are YOU to say that their game that THEY enjoy should shut down.
To make it clear you MAKE NO SENSE and actualy you never did in most of you anti soeistik post you made. And it's not about telling the thruth it's about being honost and seeing such topic like you posted showed you're not being honost but just want to bring things back to the forums that has been said ever since SWG was released, only difference is YOU are now on the side of the fench many other where already after SWG was released, shame most of you who enjoyed the game MUST have blocked out memory's of what was going on back then on the forums.
And before you make a reply be sure you really understood what i have said and maybe even check other post i made before you asume things like fanboy or whatever.
Be honost and stopp this childish behaviour of showing how selfish some people are. Would i like to see a game similair to pre-cu, for me NO as i aint got the time anymore to be spending on such games, but i do hope that one day a game similair to pre-cu would be developed cause after all I AM A GAMER and would like everyone into games to have fun, unlike people like you that seem to care only bout your own fun.
Just for plain good fun. Where the hell is the grammer police.
Just for plain good fun. Where the hell is the grammer police.
Lost within you're own ignorance i guesse
Don't worry i know it is populair that when you have nothing to say or discuss to resort to things like spelling as that does show how ignorant people can be to asume everyone should/could speak/write perfect English.
The saga of Smuggler is one of the saddest in the history of SWG. Various professions claim to have been the target of developer ire, but Smuggler, if anything, was the target of developer indifference. I tried out smuggler with a new toon on Bria my last vet trial, and the really pathetic thing about it is that its expertise was apparently designed just for the smuggler "content" (the glorified delivery missions) and no regard whatsoever to anything besides that. Thus much of smugglers' expertise points are tied up in ways that don't help them in the PvP endgame, the only endgame SWG has. So smuggler is basically a gimped profession. Smuggler wasn't this bad in the preCU or CU periods, it actually had its uses in PvP...particularly with hybrid Jedi templates. There just is no unifying vision for the game at all.
if i remember well smugglers in pre-cu where "more smuggler" than they are in NGE
pre cu you could slice weapons and make spice , all which if you where caught in posession of them by imperial NPCs you would get fined/killed/TEF(if you kill them)
helll if you where a high ranking officer in the imperial ranks you could even get away with it
True, but...that goes with having "power" to exercise over authority.
I played Smuggler from day one to ToOW. In all that time, we were relagated to being a class that honestly didn't have a purpose. Oh yeah, we were drug makers/pushers. Oh yeah, we could slice some things. NOTHING that actually touched on the very definition of the smuggler in the saga. The only thing close was the checkpoints, and that honestly only affected those that carried illegal weapons/armor/spice for their own use, as there was NO....repeat...NO system or player-use for someone to "move illicit cargo over legal boundaries or through customs" in what was expected in the smuggler experience. Find a smuggler in the entirety of the Saga and EU that..
A: Makes spice themselves, or
B: Picks locks, or
C: Enhances everyone elses gear
...for a living.
We got shanked. Again and again and again. Our own Affiliate quit over it, unable to take being the deliverer of the news that "well, you got screwed again" anymore. Still, we dug in, trying to support what we THOUGHT was a hope within the system that all things would be addressed.
Hell, even dancers had more use than smugglers. The only professions that didn't have any substantial and needed skills were rangers, and smugglers and even rangers got what was called "dev love".
Just saying. Yeah, there was a little something, but compared to the rest of the classes, it was a hell of a thing to stick to your guns about. (little pistoleer humor for the masses)
Yes, I have anger issues. They taste like chocolate bunnies.
As much as I support what you are saying, these threads really are getting old. I would say there is about a 5% chance we may actually get our old SWG back by some miracle. Which would probably include an entire sweep of executive management for SOE. But really.. these posts arent necessary. The Vets have time and time again went back to SWG, and even those who went back with a clear heart/mind came back saying that the game is still bad beyond comparison to what we had before. This debate should have been closed years ago. While I will continue to support efforts to get a classic type server going again.. I seriously doubt it will happen.
You guys don't understand: We know the old game isn't coming back. We aren't trying to get it back from SOE. I can't speak for other vets but I want SWG to shut down as an example of what not to do with your customers trust in your sevice
fixed for me. i dont care about any other SW MMO's coming out i wont touch it for the mere fact that if LA doesnt get 10million players in 6 months time,they may drasticaly change game play. They are on my "Can't be trusted with my time and investment" list also.
I completely agree, SOE is really doing a great job making the game fun and exciting. Pre-CU swg is gone and I'm enjoying the NGE.
I'd probably enjoy it too if I had never played WoW. Say what you will but those folks at Blizzard know how to deliver a well polished and bug free game. That's something SOE has never learned. Hmmm...perhaps they should have worked secretly to copy that instead of creating a very bad clone of WoW.
The vets don't need to lie. Only the fanbois, senators (alpha class fanbois) and SOE employees posing as well, posters bother to lie.
Vets use facts.
Fanbois try to discredit us by saying we didn't play the NGE so we can't comment. If you did, then they claim that you PAID for the NGE, so you have no right to complain.
Note that the fanbois can only support the NGE by basically attacking those who criticize it.
Whilst I and others can attack the NGE by attacking the NGE as it is when it was launched, and as it is now, 2 years later. We don't need to say "XXX sucks, shut up, you have no standing". No, we can put the NGE to death on it's own, as it is without that.
The fanbois here trolling us cannot defend it without personal attacks.
Badger, Saay, et all... Lie all you want. Get us deleted and banned all you want.
It matters not.
Your game is just as doomed even if we are silent. It cannot and does not stand on ANY merit. Hell, if you actually silenced us and then lured people in, SOE would end up with a worse reputation than otherwise.
Look, if the NGE didn't suck, you would have new players trickling in. You wouldn't have flame wars about server merges being the #1 priority.
I completely agree, SOE is really doing a great job making the game fun and exciting. Pre-CU swg is gone and I'm enjoying the NGE.
I'd probably enjoy it too if I had never played WoW. Say what you will but those folks at Blizzard know how to deliver a well polished and bug free game. That's something SOE has never learned. Hmmm...perhaps they should have worked secretly to copy that instead of creating a very bad clone of WoW.
I enjoy slamming my fingers in a car door more than the NGE game as it is now.
At least the UI works, and the car door can't slam through walls.
Originally posted by Reklaw Be honost and stop this childish behaviour of showing how selfish some people are. Would i like to see a game similair to pre-cu, for me NO as i aint got the time anymore to be spending on such games, but i do hope that one day a game similair to pre-cu would be developed cause after all I AM A GAMER and would like everyone into games to have fun, unlike people like you that seem to care only bout your own fun.
Not have the time for such game? On average You could play the endgame after a week. So when I see Your writing I guess it was the reading that was taking a fat chunck of Your time and not the "grind" itself. SWG PreCU was more or less not item based and the grind to endgame was done in a few days for the battle professions and a few days more for the crafting professions.
On a side note, his not more selfish than You it seems.
Meaning when a game still holds people that seem to enjoy the game who are YOU to say that their game that THEY enjoy should shut down.
First and foremost I'm a Star Wars fan, a Star Wars fan that is frankly dumbstruck that a Star Wars game in one of the most rapidly expanding sectors of the games industry (namely mmo's) has been mismanaged to the extent that free to play cartoon mmo's have mnore players. That's who I am and that's exactly why I'm fully justified in expecting this blight on the Star Wars brand to be put 6 feet under where it belongs.
Can't counter an argument with a valid discussion point? Fishermage(aka Fisherprice) recommends you cut and paste: ad hominem
"You will come to the conclusion that the only people crazier than the managers who thought this a good idea are those who put up with it and pay for it." - Salvaje (who paid to play the NGE for 18 months) /golfclap
Not have the time for such game? Yeah probebly hard to believe eh that some people actualy play a game AND NOT GRIND IT?
On average You could play the endgame after a week. If you grind or unable in my opinion to enjoy the game with others then sure ANYONE can do that, there for i choose not to be like EVERYONE
So when I see Your writing I guess it was the reading that was taking a fat chunck of Your time This just plain ignorance from your side to asume something like that....really
and not the "grind" itself. Grind is a mindset in my opinion of people actualy unable to enjoy and play this genre
SWG PreCU was more or less not item based and the grind to endgame was done in a few days for the battle professions and a few days more for the crafting professions. For those rushers sure and like i said ANYONE could do that, but not me i choose to be unique, my shop actualy proofed that many times seeing so many people visiting it and buying all of my stuff, cause unlike most vendors, unless they guildshops, mostly sold highlvl stuff, where i sold lvl1 till max items of all sorts On a side note, his not more selfish than You it seems. Really? question you really played pre-cu? hard to bleieve seeing your response.
You guys don't understand: We know the old game isn't coming back. We aren't trying to get it back from SOE. I can't speak for other vets but I want SWG to shut down so a new Star Wars mmo can be created.
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Meaning when a game still holds people that seem to enjoy the game who are YOU to say that their game that THEY enjoy should shut down.
To make it clear you MAKE NO SENSE and actualy you never did in most of you anti soeistik post you made. And it's not about telling the thruth it's about being honost and seeing such topic like you posted showed you're not being honost but just want to bring things back to the forums that has been said ever since SWG was released, only difference is YOU are now on the side of the fench many other where already after SWG was released, shame most of you who enjoyed the game MUST have blocked out memory's of what was going on back then on the forums.
And before you make a reply be sure you really understood what i have said and maybe even check other post i made before you asume things like fanboy or whatever.
Be honost and stopp this childish behaviour of showing how selfish some people are. Would i like to see a game similair to pre-cu, for me NO as i aint got the time anymore to be spending on such games, but i do hope that one day a game similair to pre-cu would be developed cause after all I AM A GAMER and would like everyone into games to have fun, unlike people like you that seem to care only bout your own fun.
Just for plain good fun. Where the hell is the grammer police.
Don't worry i know it is populair that when you have nothing to say or discuss to resort to things like spelling as that does show how ignorant people can be to asume everyone should/could speak/write perfect English.
pre cu you could slice weapons and make spice , all which if you where caught in posession of them by imperial NPCs you would get fined/killed/TEF(if you kill them)
helll if you where a high ranking officer in the imperial ranks you could even get away with it
True, but...that goes with having "power" to exercise over authority.
I played Smuggler from day one to ToOW. In all that time, we were relagated to being a class that honestly didn't have a purpose. Oh yeah, we were drug makers/pushers. Oh yeah, we could slice some things. NOTHING that actually touched on the very definition of the smuggler in the saga. The only thing close was the checkpoints, and that honestly only affected those that carried illegal weapons/armor/spice for their own use, as there was NO....repeat...NO system or player-use for someone to "move illicit cargo over legal boundaries or through customs" in what was expected in the smuggler experience. Find a smuggler in the entirety of the Saga and EU that..
A: Makes spice themselves, or
B: Picks locks, or
C: Enhances everyone elses gear
...for a living.
We got shanked. Again and again and again. Our own Affiliate quit over it, unable to take being the deliverer of the news that "well, you got screwed again" anymore. Still, we dug in, trying to support what we THOUGHT was a hope within the system that all things would be addressed.
Hell, even dancers had more use than smugglers. The only professions that didn't have any substantial and needed skills were rangers, and smugglers and even rangers got what was called "dev love".
Just saying. Yeah, there was a little something, but compared to the rest of the classes, it was a hell of a thing to stick to your guns about. (little pistoleer humor for the masses)
Yes, I have anger issues. They taste like chocolate bunnies.
You guys don't understand: We know the old game isn't coming back. We aren't trying to get it back from SOE. I can't speak for other vets but I want SWG to shut down as an example of what not to do with your customers trust in your sevice
fixed for me. i dont care about any other SW MMO's coming out i wont touch it for the mere fact that if LA doesnt get 10million players in 6 months time,they may drasticaly change game play. They are on my "Can't be trusted with my time and investment" list also.
I completely agree, SOE is really doing a great job making the game fun and exciting. Pre-CU swg is gone and I'm enjoying the NGE.
I'd probably enjoy it too if I had never played WoW. Say what you will but those folks at Blizzard know how to deliver a well polished and bug free game. That's something SOE has never learned. Hmmm...perhaps they should have worked secretly to copy that instead of creating a very bad clone of WoW.
The vets don't need to lie. Only the fanbois, senators (alpha class fanbois) and SOE employees posing as well, posters bother to lie.
Vets use facts.
Fanbois try to discredit us by saying we didn't play the NGE so we can't comment. If you did, then they claim that you PAID for the NGE, so you have no right to complain.
Note that the fanbois can only support the NGE by basically attacking those who criticize it.
Whilst I and others can attack the NGE by attacking the NGE as it is when it was launched, and as it is now, 2 years later. We don't need to say "XXX sucks, shut up, you have no standing". No, we can put the NGE to death on it's own, as it is without that.
The fanbois here trolling us cannot defend it without personal attacks.
Badger, Saay, et all... Lie all you want. Get us deleted and banned all you want.
It matters not.
Your game is just as doomed even if we are silent. It cannot and does not stand on ANY merit. Hell, if you actually silenced us and then lured people in, SOE would end up with a worse reputation than otherwise.
Look, if the NGE didn't suck, you would have new players trickling in. You wouldn't have flame wars about server merges being the #1 priority.
I'd probably enjoy it too if I had never played WoW. Say what you will but those folks at Blizzard know how to deliver a well polished and bug free game. That's something SOE has never learned. Hmmm...perhaps they should have worked secretly to copy that instead of creating a very bad clone of WoW.
I enjoy slamming my fingers in a car door more than the NGE game as it is now.
At least the UI works, and the car door can't slam through walls.
On a side note, his not more selfish than You it seems.
First and foremost I'm a Star Wars fan, a Star Wars fan that is frankly dumbstruck that a Star Wars game in one of the most rapidly expanding sectors of the games industry (namely mmo's) has been mismanaged to the extent that free to play cartoon mmo's have mnore players. That's who I am and that's exactly why I'm fully justified in expecting this blight on the Star Wars brand to be put 6 feet under where it belongs.
Can't counter an argument with a valid discussion point? Fishermage(aka Fisherprice) recommends you cut and paste: ad hominem
"You will come to the conclusion that the only people crazier than the managers who thought this a good idea are those who put up with it and pay for it." - Salvaje (who paid to play the NGE for 18 months) /golfclap
Selfish much
No, not really.