You know those people that shun the Social aspect of MMO's. Bit like the nasty kids in some very popular games at the moment. Or those loot only people etc etc
Yes I know them well.. all those damned crafters soloing away ruining the social aspect of mmos.. yes.
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Boy do I hate the notion that adventuring in a group is the only way to socially interact in an mmo. Because thats a pretty dumb notion.
As for EQ1, I think I will now also skip it, was idling considering giving it a look-see while waiting for AoC
I just have to post and say to all of you who have resorted to attacking the OPs grammar and typing,how sad for you this is a deciding factor in how you judge someones post and intelligence. While I think it is easier to read a post that has good grammar and typing this in no way influences how I regard the info presented. If i can still understand what is being posted thats what matters. This to me has become one of the lowest forms of belittlement on the net.
The story told by the OP is extremely unlikely. I highly doubt there are organized loot crime rings working inside SoE. Why would anyone risk their job and a likely jail sentence for a very low profit potential. Everquest is not exactly a hot market for farmers.
Sony is a publicy traded company with many risk management systems in place to prevent fraud. My guess is that this player got caught cheating and is now trying to hurt Sony's reputation. And for that I say thank you Sony for protecting the integrity of your online gaming platforms.
To all those saying multi-boxing is bad, against the rules, ruining the game or some other lame argument.. You really need to go back to WoW or your soloing class.
When you've tried playing a class that is (almost) completely unable to solo (cleric, warrior, rogue just to name a few) and having been LFG for hours upon hours on end, then finally just either giving up and logging or trying to find some light-blue mobs that barely gives any experience and where you have to spend 5 minutes after each fight to get your mana or hp back up. When you've tried that then come back, untill then just stop spewing your ignorant arguments.
Sure, EverQuest isn't the game it used to be, not other game (that I know of) is what EverQuest used to be. The community in EverQuest is simply unparalleled, or at least was up to Gates of Discord where SOE really screwed up by adding content that was bugged and seriously rather tough compared to the gearlevel you'd have in from previous expansion (at least for many that hadn't farmed Plane of Time for ages).
In World of Warcraft people don't give a rats ass about their reputation. It's so easy ti just make a new character and level to 70 and then get along for a few Karazhan raids and you're good to go for the higher tier raids. In EverQuest (as it was) you didn't want to ruin your reputation because then you'd be shunned from groups (needed for many to get experience) and shunned from guilds. The inter-guild/-player communication was simply that much better than it is in WoW.
Now that most people have left EverQuest (with Gates of Discord to blame for the great exodus) people have realized that although grouping is great and fun, and honestly still prefer to group with other people rather than their own collection of bots, they are simply not willing to waste time being LFG. Often they'd rather have their own 2-6 character botted group and then fill it with other players. Point is they no longer have to waste their time because they can't find a group, or the group gets disbanded within 15 minutes because some essential class had to leave.
Compare it to doing Heroics in WoW. Nothing more annoying than having to wait for hours to get into a good Heroics group (or even just a regular instance group) just to have it disband after 15 minutes, or never really get started, because the tank, the healer or the crowd control suddenly had to go ("Sorry, mom says I have to go to bed now").
Having a perma-group, whether it be bots or real players, really solves so many issues that no matter what the anti-botters say they'll always lose. You're welcome to waste your time LFG while I get my levels and gear in my perma-group.
Sorry, guess that got a bit longer than anticipated
You obviously don't get it. The posters here, and myself are old school EQ players. We don't like five boxers or have any use for them. You would never have been allowed in a guild worth a crap in the old days. You would have been ridiculed and ostracized till we forced you to quit. Social games don't have people five boxing, and you were simply hogging a spawn for your bot crew. We don't care what your Guild Leader says, he is just as wrong minded about gaming as you are. Ostracized
$5 says I started playing EQ before you. I've played EQ off and on for the last 8 years so I know the changing landscape. Just because you, Mr. "Old School EQ Player", can't adjust to the way EQ is now played gives you NO right to attack it's current members for wanting to box to have fun in the game. Your response is bigoted and ignorant and you should be ashamed of it. To think, you want to dictate to other people how THEY should enjoy the game!? What are you? Abashi? Are you old school enough to remember how he changed the game and infuriated people by basically telling them how to enjoy it? Congratulations, you're so in tune with old EQ you now channel how Verant acted in it's early stages.
I'll take your $5. I was one of the 10,000 who logged on that first day of release and played for over 4 years straight until SOE ruined the game after Brad left.
I also mostly soloed, and soloing is about playing one character and relying on that character's skills only. Multiboxers are cheaters, circumventing game design by artificially creating their own hybrids and using bots to accomplish solo what they were not intended to accomplish solo and benefiting from multiple class skills without grouping and sharing experience and loot. If the designers intended players to be able to play multiple characters at the same time, they would allow every player to do so with a single account.
Multiboxers ruin immersion, by filling the game with lifeless soulless characters and bots. Based on my experience multiboxers are rude, hog mobs and entire areas, to powerlevel a character or farm items for goldselling. That doesn't make me bigoted, it is fact based on my experience.
You will lose , I started Oct 1999. I left about 6 months into PoP, the expansion that destroyed EQ. I mostly grouped and played a Warrior, but my favorite was my Druid.
You both lose, I have been playing since the day of release also, but unlike both of y'all I have never quit eq, I still play to this day, +640 days played on my druid, 78 days played on my monk, 35 days Played on my paladin, 26 days played on ranger, 20 Days played necro, 17 days played rogue, 10+ days played on bard.
I have played solo, in groups, in raids and with boxxers. I have seen nice boxxers and rude regular groups, and even rude soloers. so just saying ONLY boxxers are rude is generalizing when it isnt true, anyone can be rude. i have seen both rude and nice of all the various people around.
As for how people play, that is up to THEM, it is Their choice on how they play, it is NOT up to you to Nazi Rule how to play this game. Last I checked, this game is a freedom form type of game where you have many different ways you can play this game, not JUST grouping. I have done the best of all worlds and enjoyed em all. except box myself, I cant afford that, but i have grouped with boxxers before and had a ton of fun.
I feel your pain op i really do and i will explain why in details.
I have been part of eq since the start of the game. i have been in guilds that not only hack but they have and still do it up to this day as i type this now. i mean high end guilds of eq on xey server mel server 7th hammer.
I will list names here because i know it will not be removed.
Krippalzz history on him 2006+ was leader of a guild called Huhu Horde on xey server on eq1 know about ghostkilling mq2 useage, also had a few of the members / officers in the guild with him hacking he is a war if you didnt know by now.
He left and his guild had mergerd into another guild called Iratus Lepus also know for there hacking ways ghostkilling hacking mq2 useage. Krippalzz was leader with Darkrah necro who is in crimson tempest and is an officers now keep in mind these two are in the top 20 guilds in eq at the time.
Both darkrah and krippalzz hack they will not say it out but they do it up to this day, they left the guild Huhu horde but that does not means they have stop the hacking mq2 useage, also darkrah and krippalzz not only know of gms but they are good friends with them so if you get in there way as kosing them or reporting them.
They will call there gm friends and trust me you will be banned you just have to know what they did or have and still doing to get banned by the gm, i cant post this information on soe forum for two reasons it will be taken down.
and i will be removed from the forums:{.
Now it goes deepers here is how darkrah and krippalzz and a few others were on a raid doing sullon zek when i was in the guild the raid had wipe :{ on her she was at 30% they had 2 monks in there that ghostkilled her yes they ghostkiller her after and we got the win we all know this because there was no way in hell you can get her down from 30% to dead in 30 secounds when the raid had just wipe with two monsk standing there unless you had ghostkilled the mob.
Now after that was done there was a roged named gigglesworth that was really upset about that and took it to them and had told them about this also he deguilded himself and left and quit eq because of the cheating going on. He had reported them soe did nothing.
Now darkrah had server tranfer to mel server he took his toons with him clr name storm monk name shoggie that was the main ghostkiller of darkrah and one of his best toon. the guild was a demi raiding guild at the time huhu horde that is no alts will ever have demi loot unless it rots but both of his toons did. none bitch or said anything because they know both leaders would get them banned from eq so fear can control anyone in my eye i have seen it.
Now huhu horde is dead but it still lives why because Milyen a bard from dark horizon has his alts in there yes dark harizon is the 3 or the 2 best guild server wide, Bruther leader of Iratus Lepus also has ghostkillers in the guild, Seaza officer of huhu horde once up on a time was there but he sold his toon but has an army of toons in there as well ghostkilling. Raptor officer of Iratus Lepus also has toons in the guild and in Iratus Lepus that have and still ghostkilled. Somta zerker in Triality ghostkiller from huhu horde and Iratus Lepus.
They all know gms that if you report them will get you banned when i told them i would report them to a gm i was guild remove and anyone else that i know that also know this, not only has Iratus Lepus ghostkilled toons make it bad for anyone that knows they ghostkill events with there monks or what ever toons they have and learn the events then go in as a guild. they have a rog full solt gear name Iratus who is raptors alt that was made on the server that was in full solt gear before anyone else even when the guild was on in the zone yet doing raids.
What makes the game bad is this every guild has a gm that will banned you and i dont care what you all have to say really yes gm can change the logs. i have seen it done if you were to report anyone from any of them guilds you will get banned thats the way it is and thats the way it will always be. and thats like half of what i know i know of gm that run guilds on the 7th hammer, ab, ms is another guild they all ghostkill to be were they are some way our another and if you report them or say they ghostkill they call there gm friends up and will have you banned and all your toons.
I have lost about 2 toons due to this and i will lose more but soe needs to do something about it check there logs for warping ghostkilling and macroing thats why eq is the way it is now. because og top guild + gm that run it darkrah the rest power level toons sell pp and ghostkill mobs.
The reason soe has been banning people in the last 3 months is to keep guilds like this in business and thats how it is. i will not stand by and see it no more. if you want ss of any ghostkilling any of these toons have done and gms helping them just pm me i will send it to you thanks for your time.
all toons have alts that have and still ghostkill from tss all the way to sof and yes they have killed it all just send them a tell and ask.
You obviously don't get it. The posters here, and myself are old school EQ players. We don't like five boxers or have any use for them. You would never have been allowed in a guild worth a crap in the old days. You would have been ridiculed and ostracized till we forced you to quit. Social games don't have people five boxing, and you were simply hogging a spawn for your bot crew. We don't care what your Guild Leader says, he is just as wrong minded about gaming as you are. Ostracized
$5 says I started playing EQ before you. I've played EQ off and on for the last 8 years so I know the changing landscape. Just because you, Mr. "Old School EQ Player", can't adjust to the way EQ is now played gives you NO right to attack it's current members for wanting to box to have fun in the game. Your response is bigoted and ignorant and you should be ashamed of it. To think, you want to dictate to other people how THEY should enjoy the game!? What are you? Abashi? Are you old school enough to remember how he changed the game and infuriated people by basically telling them how to enjoy it? Congratulations, you're so in tune with old EQ you now channel how Verant acted in it's early stages.
I'll take your $5. I was one of the 10,000 who logged on that first day of release and played for over 4 years straight until SOE ruined the game after Brad left.
I also mostly soloed, and soloing is about playing one character and relying on that character's skills only. Multiboxers are cheaters, circumventing game design by artificially creating their own hybrids and using bots to accomplish solo what they were not intended to accomplish solo and benefiting from multiple class skills without grouping and sharing experience and loot. If the designers intended players to be able to play multiple characters at the same time, they would allow every player to do so with a single account.
Multiboxers ruin immersion, by filling the game with lifeless soulless characters and bots. Based on my experience multiboxers are rude, hog mobs and entire areas, to powerlevel a character or farm items for goldselling. That doesn't make me bigoted, it is fact based on my experience.
You will lose , I started Oct 1999. I left about 6 months into PoP, the expansion that destroyed EQ. I mostly grouped and played a Warrior, but my favorite was my Druid.
You both lose, I have been playing since the day of release also, but unlike both of y'all I have never quit eq, I still play to this day, +640 days played on my druid, 78 days played on my monk, 35 days Played on my paladin, 26 days played on ranger, 20 Days played necro, 17 days played rogue, 10+ days played on bard.
I have played solo, in groups, in raids and with boxxers. I have seen nice boxxers and rude regular groups, and even rude soloers. so just saying ONLY boxxers are rude is generalizing when it isnt true, anyone can be rude. i have seen both rude and nice of all the various people around.
As for how people play, that is up to THEM, it is Their choice on how they play, it is NOT up to you to Nazi Rule how to play this game. Last I checked, this game is a freedom form type of game where you have many different ways you can play this game, not JUST grouping. I have done the best of all worlds and enjoyed em all. except box myself, I cant afford that, but i have grouped with boxxers before and had a ton of fun.
Last I checked EQ1's population was in the toilet, I think that more than proves who is right.
A Dr00d, what a surprise, and 600+ days played is sad. I played a Warrior, or as I called em a "wimpior", WoW fixed the Warrior and everyone of the WARRIORS I knew bailed crappy EQ1 for WoW, and that amounted to hundreds of "Wimpiors" tired of incompetant SOE devs unable and unwilling to fixthe most popular class.
The story told by the OP is extremely unlikely. I highly doubt there are organized loot crime rings working inside SoE. Why would anyone risk their job and a likely jail sentence for a very low profit potential. Everquest is not exactly a hot market for farmers. Sony is a publicy traded company with many risk management systems in place to prevent fraud. My guess is that this player got caught cheating and is now trying to hurt Sony's reputation. And for that I say thank you Sony for protecting the integrity of your online gaming platforms.
Is this a joke. Every day employees of banks getting caught funnelling money out to private accounts for like $5k. Most businesses have people stealing from them every day. Risk Management is a term for companies that have items in stock that they sell like Best Buy. Sony hold intellectual property in their items and portions out productions to other companies. Thus Sony does not need Risk Management. Instead they have Internal Security looking for hackers and such. Please they day a company does not have people defrauding them or stealing from them is the day all the people on the Earth hold hands and share in a socialist utopia.
Everquest or SOE has a real corrupt CS dept. Employees are getting the most they can before it goes belly up imo. I have heard rumors of banning accounts of people that might have grouped without knowing someone was using MQ2 in the group. Then the banned toons get ebayed out on fresh accounts by employees.
To all those saying multi-boxing is bad, against the rules, ruining the game or some other lame argument.. You really need to go back to WoW or your soloing class. When you've tried playing a class that is (almost) completely unable to solo (cleric, warrior, rogue just to name a few) and having been LFG for hours upon hours on end, then finally just either giving up and logging or trying to find some light-blue mobs that barely gives any experience and where you have to spend 5 minutes after each fight to get your mana or hp back up. When you've tried that then come back, untill then just stop spewing your ignorant arguments.
And that's the real problem- you're sucked into buying more accounts and giving the company the illusion of success, when it's really FAILING to deliver what it promised you. You were promised the ability to play and have fun with lots of other people - it is an MMO, right? You were promised that you'd be able to do this with 1 account and 1 character at a time, right?
But instead of accepting the fact that SOE has failed its promises to you, you make the mistake of giving them even MORE money so that you can keep playing. So they are rewarded for screwing up. Tell me, if that's what is going to happen, why should they try to attract more people to the game? They can get 5 times the money from one player this way. That's 1/5 the customer support needs for the same bucks.
So I'm sorry you made that mistake, when the correct answer is- cancel your sub. Tell them why- low pop, nobody to group with, solo content sucks. And tell them that if you get the numbers back up, you'll come back, but until then, you're on to a different game.
Then go play a different game. Not necessarily an MMORPG, just anything to take it's place (like chewing gum instead of smoking lol). That's the only way that the company can get a real impression of how its doing, and what it needs to do to do better.
That's the real evil of multiboxers- you are not counted as multiboxers by the sales reports, you're counted as several different players, but somehow the company doesn't have to support you anywhere near as much.
Same with Eve(il) Online - their playerbase is much smaller than it appears, because their pseudo-"skills" training system encourages multiple accounts, and you can run multiple games on one computer at once. So surprise, virtually everyone has multiple accounts going so they can "win" the game. The company gets to roll cheap, crappy software and lie about the game experience, because the players are stupid enough to reward them with more money to get what they were promised in the first place.
Sounds like they are still as corrupt as they were in 1999/2000. I fondly remember people with names that were copyrighted being renamed to something like Liililililimus. And not getting it changed for a day or two.
After reading the multiple posts from the original OP. I have to say I am quite happy I left SOE when I did. Right after Planes of Power was released. Also when NGE hit SWG. Yes the guild leaderis misinforming that responded in defense to accusations that are quite true. Glad if I need my EQ fix I go to a private server.(Its all scars of velious and earlier) No SOE, Hackerquest idiots involved.
I belonged to a PG guild in both DAOC and WOW. Was in it for almost 4 years. Same people different name. I know this guild leader is lying his arse off. Wish I would have been there. Would have packet lossed the whole zone just for him. But once again. I do not like SOE and will always refuse to use them. SOE is like the Gamers version of AOL. I hate them as well.. Wonder what happened to them !
So to the OP, Hope you find a better mmo. You, your wife and son may enjoy LOTRO. Its very fun with very few /farmers.. Besides you can spot them 100 miles away in LOTRO.
Sorry, don't believe this story at all. You were probably the one hacking, and you were busted. Or you both were hacking, and both got busted thinking you would rat each other out.
Good work releasing this information but the game is already on it's deathbed. Although, after reading this I'll be sure not to play another SOE game no matter what.
I was going to write a response to this… But after about 5 or 6 attempts at writing a constructive response, I just gave up. An individual posts about a situation that displeased them (regardless of its veracity) and it devolved into a 7 page flame fest on multi boxing, grammar, and Sony bashing. Minus the one person who actually had a constructive e-mail on some of the options you could take to either hit Sony where it hurts or be quiet and keep playing. I kind of feel like I was reading a Clinton vs. Obama transcript.
My best advice is to just avoid $OE at all cost. They are not known for their ethics in gaming. Not to bast EQ, but honestly the game is dead at this point which I know does not justify shady GMs, but it helps one understand why it is ignored.
You obviously don't get it. The posters here, and myself are old school EQ players. We don't like five boxers or have any use for them. You would never have been allowed in a guild worth a crap in the old days. You would have been ridiculed and ostracized till we forced you to quit. Social games don't have people five boxing, and you were simply hogging a spawn for your bot crew. We don't care what your Guild Leader says, he is just as wrong minded about gaming as you are. Ostracized
$5 says I started playing EQ before you. I've played EQ off and on for the last 8 years so I know the changing landscape. Just because you, Mr. "Old School EQ Player", can't adjust to the way EQ is now played gives you NO right to attack it's current members for wanting to box to have fun in the game. Your response is bigoted and ignorant and you should be ashamed of it. To think, you want to dictate to other people how THEY should enjoy the game!? What are you? Abashi? Are you old school enough to remember how he changed the game and infuriated people by basically telling them how to enjoy it? Congratulations, you're so in tune with old EQ you now channel how Verant acted in it's early stages.
I'll take your $5. I was one of the 10,000 who logged on that first day of release and played for over 4 years straight until SOE ruined the game after Brad left.
I also mostly soloed, and soloing is about playing one character and relying on that character's skills only. Multiboxers are cheaters, circumventing game design by artificially creating their own hybrids and using bots to accomplish solo what they were not intended to accomplish solo and benefiting from multiple class skills without grouping and sharing experience and loot. If the designers intended players to be able to play multiple characters at the same time, they would allow every player to do so with a single account.
Multiboxers ruin immersion, by filling the game with lifeless soulless characters and bots. Based on my experience multiboxers are rude, hog mobs and entire areas, to powerlevel a character or farm items for goldselling. That doesn't make me bigoted, it is fact based on my experience.
You will lose , I started Oct 1999. I left about 6 months into PoP, the expansion that destroyed EQ. I mostly grouped and played a Warrior, but my favorite was my Druid.
You both lose, I have been playing since the day of release also, but unlike both of y'all I have never quit eq, I still play to this day, +640 days played on my druid, 78 days played on my monk, 35 days Played on my paladin, 26 days played on ranger, 20 Days played necro, 17 days played rogue, 10+ days played on bard.
I have played solo, in groups, in raids and with boxxers. I have seen nice boxxers and rude regular groups, and even rude soloers. so just saying ONLY boxxers are rude is generalizing when it isnt true, anyone can be rude. i have seen both rude and nice of all the various people around.
As for how people play, that is up to THEM, it is Their choice on how they play, it is NOT up to you to Nazi Rule how to play this game. Last I checked, this game is a freedom form type of game where you have many different ways you can play this game, not JUST grouping. I have done the best of all worlds and enjoyed em all. except box myself, I cant afford that, but i have grouped with boxxers before and had a ton of fun.
I am the guild leader of In Motion, who came out to Valdeholm when one of my members, Farsente, received /oocs and /tells from the OP (I will not say his character name) claiming he was 'macro stealthing a named near them'. I came to zone, and observed Farsente 5-boxing his characters in the Pit, and saw no signs of hacking, warping, or, as the OP had claimed in /ooc and /tell, a 19-sec change in logs. ? still new on that one. More guildmembers, and a character not from our guild who was asked to observe as a 3rd party, came out. Said OP was verbally abusive to all within zone as far as /tell, /ooc, and /say was concerned. Several /report and /petitions were sent, and if you were banned, it was due to your actions and yours alone. GMs CANNOT modify the server logs, and they investigated every toon they receive a /report on, so if the accused had been killing your mob, he would have been at the least suspended. Make your feeble accusations, but be it known, the members that were /reported on were investigated, and if something, even minor, would have occured, they would have been suspended (and I would have kicked them summarily out of the guild). Feel free to take any accusations of GM favoritism to Rashere, Ngreth, Nodilyn, etc. If you were banned, it was for your actions. Sony, while not always being fast or entirely accurate, does not permanently ban folks falsely. If this had been your first offense, you would have been suspended, not banned, per the SOE rules (see Rashere's posts on the forums).
I'm more than happy to post my /log of what I had (granted, I am sure claims of me changing them would appear), but in the end, you were banned for violations to the EULA, and if it's a permanent ban, enjoy WoW. If not permanent, perhaps you will be more respectful to members of the server if you return. Sincerely, Portrich Guild Leader, In Motion PS. This post is linked to EQLive forums for SOE review if needed.
Epic fail
"Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one ..." - Thomas Paine
The story told by the OP is extremely unlikely. I highly doubt there are organized loot crime rings working inside SoE. Why would anyone risk their job and a likely jail sentence for a very low profit potential. Everquest is not exactly a hot market for farmers. Sony is a publicy traded company with many risk management systems in place to prevent fraud. My guess is that this player got caught cheating and is now trying to hurt Sony's reputation. And for that I say thank you Sony for protecting the integrity of your online gaming platforms.
Shenanigans, unfortunately.
A guild mate of mine was one of the founders of Fan Faire, when it was truly run by the fans. He was eventually hired by Sony and Fan Faire was taken over. He was banned from EQ and fired, because he abused his powers and gave items to at least one friend in another guild. This was right when Kunark was published and the items he gave his friend(s) were drops that hadn't yet been discovered on the server (Lanys T'Vyl), because nobody had even reached Veeshan's Peak or any of the dragons yet.
in another incident, my gulid inadvertently got a bunch of guides banned. We used to have a well known, weekly fight night in the arena in Lake Rathe. We were fighting one week when a bunch of guides showed up and challenged us. It was, hands down, one of the best times I ever had in EQ. It was ridiculously fun trying to kill the guides, being killed by them, etc.. A short while later, the guides disappeared and some GMs ported in. The guides were banned and dismissed from the program for breaking the rules they agreed to.
I just have to post and say to all of you who have resorted to attacking the OPs grammar and typing,how sad for you this is a deciding factor in how you judge someones post and intelligence. While I think it is easier to read a post that has good grammar and typing this in no way influences how I regard the info presented. If i can still understand what is being posted thats what matters. This to me has become one of the lowest forms of belittlement on the net.
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--- I ask for so little. Just fear me, love me, do as I say and I will be your slave.
When I used to play WoW. I was invited to a party for a raid and I told them I would be their in like 6 mins cuz I had to fly all the way out. Then why I FINALLY got to the zone where the raid is, I got dropped from the party so I asked leader WTF. And he was like, "Well we got out GM running us."
I was like WTF, you invited me asking if I could come in the first place, you dont just drop a guy you practically begged to come. Then I started talking to the GM telling him what happened and he was "Chill its just a game"... This hella PO'd me cuz he got an easy button with god mode and instant level cap on it, while people like me half to actual get raids and "level up". GM interference is hella annoying. It's just like all those foreigners coming into a country and taking the local's jobs, except in this case the foreigners have platinum grills and are set for life, but they just want to take your spot because they can.
When I used to play WoW. I was invited to a party for a raid and I told them I would be their in like 6 mins cuz I had to fly all the way out. Then why I FINALLY got to the zone where the raid is, I got dropped from the party so I asked leader WTF. And he was like, "Well we got out GM running us." I was like WTF, you invited me asking if I could come in the first place, you dont just drop a guy you practically begged to come. Then I started talking to the GM telling him what happened and he was "Chill its just a game"... This hella PO'd me cuz he got an easy button with god mode and instant level cap on it, while people like me half to actual get raids and "level up". GM interference is hella annoying. It's just like all those foreigners coming into a country and taking the local's jobs, except in this case the foreigners have platinum grills and are set for life, but they just want to take your spot because they can.
Worse happened in EQ, Krieger on Tunare had member GMs that banned people that angered the guild. They would also clear Fear if the Krieger guild wiped on a raid and GM rez everyone in a safe spot and start the raid over!
{ Mod Edit } The topic was about a man and his wife being banned for calling someone out on cheating using a 5-box setup and then was mysteriously banned from everquest. I do believe there is more to this story than we will ever know. However, fact is, multi-boxers as stated by samuraisword are cheaters. They bypass a key feature of an MMORPG, the MMO part. They multi-play alright... just by themselves. Monopolizing areas and items not allowing others to utilize whatever section of the world they may be in at the time. Not to mention taking the human element of MMO's right out of the game. Now the guy that posted saying he was the 5 boxer and pays his 75 a month to do so, it being america and he has the right. He is absolutely right, he does. He pays the money to do what he is doing, but in doing so, he is destroying what used to be a great game. On that note you supporting him is what is causing the hostility toward you rouan because your supporting EQ's destruction. Multi-boxing is lame, childish, and for social outcast. My xbox analogy was ment to make you understand that your basically playing an MMO for yourself by yourself. Which ISN'T and NEVER will be the intention of a developer or designer of a M M O R P G. You my friend are the one letting your ignorance shine. so go 24 box it up with the rest of the social deviants of EQ, pay your 75 bucks a month (LOL which is ridiculous in itself) and have fun. We the sane true players of MMORPG's know you are wrong, and the more you post otherwise, strengthens the opinion on the state of the game inside EQ1. Which sadly use to be great, but with ideals like yours, has taken a huge turn in the wrong direction.
*edit - On a side note, I would also bet money that Rouan multiboxes himself, or he wouldn't be so bent out of shape over the subject.... he is trying a little hard and getting very defensive over someone else using the multi-box method. I think this is where all his hostility is coming from.
do you really have a choice when the world of norrath is dwindling down.
I had an experience a long time ago that made me question a GM's integrity. I posted this in short terms in another post, but figured it fit here as well.
I had a 3 day weekend from work, so I decided to camp the spawn for the beastlord epic in Timorous Deep. I was camping it for hours(killing raptors once in awhile to keep myself sane) and suddenly a lvl 10 ranger showed up and sat behind me. I doubted this person had enough conviction to sit there for as long as I could, so I mentioned it to my guild and continued to just stare blankly at the spot where the scout was going to spawn. This continued for awhile and I started to get really bored, so I decided to kill a few more raptors. I went to pull one and it was running up toward me, when it suddenly made a beeline for the ranger(who was seated). I didn't even have time to do anything to pull it off the ranger before they died. Before I could even apologize, I received a nasty /tell about it and got threatened with a banning. I explained what had happened, but it wasn't good enough and was told I wasn't going to get the scout when it did spawn(believe she actually said she was going to kill it).
After that, I heard nothing further from the ranger, so I forgot about them and continued my camp. I slept 2 hours the first night(with my guild leader watching the spawn for me and she had my phone # if it spawned). Second day, nothing eventful and I slept another 2 hours. On the third day, it spawned and I finished typing and sending "It's up!" to my guild...when suddenly a female beastlord runs up and takes the scout spawn. I sent her a /tell and that's when I found out it was her. She made some rude comments to me and I ended up petitioning her.
Not too long later, I received a /tell from a GM and I stated what happened. Guess what? I got yelled at by the GM who said the beastlord was a really great person and I must have purposely killed her with the raptor and deserved what I got. I tried to explain that it was an accident, but she was rude to me from the beginning and was completely siding with the other beastlord. This made me wonder because it seemed like she was friends with the beastlord(or maybe it was her own character, who knows). Later that day, I receive a /tell from my guild leader, she tells me that she logged on and saw it was up AGAIN....a 3 day spawn...twice in 1 day? Something was wrong here... It was too late for me to get it though.
A few days later, that GM was transferred to a different server. Always made me wonder if she was transferred for something she did on that day.
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Boy do I hate the notion that adventuring in a group is the only way to socially interact in an mmo. Because thats a pretty dumb notion.
As for EQ1, I think I will now also skip it, was idling considering giving it a look-see while waiting for AoC
I just have to post and say to all of you who have resorted to attacking the OPs grammar and typing,how sad for you this is a deciding factor in how you judge someones post and intelligence. While I think it is easier to read a post that has good grammar and typing this in no way influences how I regard the info presented. If i can still understand what is being posted thats what matters. This to me has become one of the lowest forms of belittlement on the net.
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The story told by the OP is extremely unlikely. I highly doubt there are organized loot crime rings working inside SoE. Why would anyone risk their job and a likely jail sentence for a very low profit potential. Everquest is not exactly a hot market for farmers.
Sony is a publicy traded company with many risk management systems in place to prevent fraud. My guess is that this player got caught cheating and is now trying to hurt Sony's reputation. And for that I say thank you Sony for protecting the integrity of your online gaming platforms.
To all those saying multi-boxing is bad, against the rules, ruining the game or some other lame argument.. You really need to go back to WoW or your soloing class.
When you've tried playing a class that is (almost) completely unable to solo (cleric, warrior, rogue just to name a few) and having been LFG for hours upon hours on end, then finally just either giving up and logging or trying to find some light-blue mobs that barely gives any experience and where you have to spend 5 minutes after each fight to get your mana or hp back up. When you've tried that then come back, untill then just stop spewing your ignorant arguments.
Sure, EverQuest isn't the game it used to be, not other game (that I know of) is what EverQuest used to be. The community in EverQuest is simply unparalleled, or at least was up to Gates of Discord where SOE really screwed up by adding content that was bugged and seriously rather tough compared to the gearlevel you'd have in from previous expansion (at least for many that hadn't farmed Plane of Time for ages).
In World of Warcraft people don't give a rats ass about their reputation. It's so easy ti just make a new character and level to 70 and then get along for a few Karazhan raids and you're good to go for the higher tier raids. In EverQuest (as it was) you didn't want to ruin your reputation because then you'd be shunned from groups (needed for many to get experience) and shunned from guilds. The inter-guild/-player communication was simply that much better than it is in WoW.
Now that most people have left EverQuest (with Gates of Discord to blame for the great exodus) people have realized that although grouping is great and fun, and honestly still prefer to group with other people rather than their own collection of bots, they are simply not willing to waste time being LFG. Often they'd rather have their own 2-6 character botted group and then fill it with other players. Point is they no longer have to waste their time because they can't find a group, or the group gets disbanded within 15 minutes because some essential class had to leave.
Compare it to doing Heroics in WoW. Nothing more annoying than having to wait for hours to get into a good Heroics group (or even just a regular instance group) just to have it disband after 15 minutes, or never really get started, because the tank, the healer or the crowd control suddenly had to go ("Sorry, mom says I have to go to bed now").
Having a perma-group, whether it be bots or real players, really solves so many issues that no matter what the anti-botters say they'll always lose. You're welcome to waste your time LFG while I get my levels and gear in my perma-group.
Sorry, guess that got a bit longer than anticipated
I'll take your $5. I was one of the 10,000 who logged on that first day of release and played for over 4 years straight until SOE ruined the game after Brad left.$5 says I started playing EQ before you. I've played EQ off and on for the last 8 years so I know the changing landscape. Just because you, Mr. "Old School EQ Player", can't adjust to the way EQ is now played gives you NO right to attack it's current members for wanting to box to have fun in the game. Your response is bigoted and ignorant and you should be ashamed of it. To think, you want to dictate to other people how THEY should enjoy the game!? What are you? Abashi? Are you old school enough to remember how he changed the game and infuriated people by basically telling them how to enjoy it? Congratulations, you're so in tune with old EQ you now channel how Verant acted in it's early stages.
I also mostly soloed, and soloing is about playing one character and relying on that character's skills only. Multiboxers are cheaters, circumventing game design by artificially creating their own hybrids and using bots to accomplish solo what they were not intended to accomplish solo and benefiting from multiple class skills without grouping and sharing experience and loot. If the designers intended players to be able to play multiple characters at the same time, they would allow every player to do so with a single account.
Multiboxers ruin immersion, by filling the game with lifeless soulless characters and bots. Based on my experience multiboxers are rude, hog mobs and entire areas, to powerlevel a character or farm items for goldselling. That doesn't make me bigoted, it is fact based on my experience.
You will lose , I started Oct 1999. I left about 6 months into PoP, the expansion that destroyed EQ. I mostly grouped and played a Warrior, but my favorite was my Druid.
You both lose, I have been playing since the day of release also, but unlike both of y'all I have never quit eq, I still play to this day, +640 days played on my druid, 78 days played on my monk, 35 days Played on my paladin, 26 days played on ranger, 20 Days played necro, 17 days played rogue, 10+ days played on bard.
I have played solo, in groups, in raids and with boxxers. I have seen nice boxxers and rude regular groups, and even rude soloers. so just saying ONLY boxxers are rude is generalizing when it isnt true, anyone can be rude. i have seen both rude and nice of all the various people around.
As for how people play, that is up to THEM, it is Their choice on how they play, it is NOT up to you to Nazi Rule how to play this game. Last I checked, this game is a freedom form type of game where you have many different ways you can play this game, not JUST grouping. I have done the best of all worlds and enjoyed em all. except box myself, I cant afford that, but i have grouped with boxxers before and had a ton of fun.
Stambo Draconia
80'th Druidish Fairy
I feel your pain op i really do and i will explain why in details.
I have been part of eq since the start of the game. i have been in guilds that not only hack but they have and still do it up to this day as i type this now. i mean high end guilds of eq on xey server mel server 7th hammer.
I will list names here because i know it will not be removed.
Krippalzz history on him 2006+ was leader of a guild called Huhu Horde on xey server on eq1 know about ghostkilling mq2 useage, also had a few of the members / officers in the guild with him hacking he is a war if you didnt know by now.
He left and his guild had mergerd into another guild called Iratus Lepus also know for there hacking ways ghostkilling hacking mq2 useage. Krippalzz was leader with Darkrah necro who is in crimson tempest and is an officers now keep in mind these two are in the top 20 guilds in eq at the time.
Both darkrah and krippalzz hack they will not say it out but they do it up to this day, they left the guild Huhu horde but that does not means they have stop the hacking mq2 useage, also darkrah and krippalzz not only know of gms but they are good friends with them so if you get in there way as kosing them or reporting them.
They will call there gm friends and trust me you will be banned you just have to know what they did or have and still doing to get banned by the gm, i cant post this information on soe forum for two reasons it will be taken down.
and i will be removed from the forums:{.
Now it goes deepers here is how darkrah and krippalzz and a few others were on a raid doing sullon zek when i was in the guild the raid had wipe :{ on her she was at 30% they had 2 monks in there that ghostkilled her yes they ghostkiller her after and we got the win we all know this because there was no way in hell you can get her down from 30% to dead in 30 secounds when the raid had just wipe with two monsk standing there unless you had ghostkilled the mob.
Now after that was done there was a roged named gigglesworth that was really upset about that and took it to them and had told them about this also he deguilded himself and left and quit eq because of the cheating going on. He had reported them soe did nothing.
Now darkrah had server tranfer to mel server he took his toons with him clr name storm monk name shoggie that was the main ghostkiller of darkrah and one of his best toon. the guild was a demi raiding guild at the time huhu horde that is no alts will ever have demi loot unless it rots but both of his toons did. none bitch or said anything because they know both leaders would get them banned from eq so fear can control anyone in my eye i have seen it.
Now huhu horde is dead but it still lives why because Milyen a bard from dark horizon has his alts in there yes dark harizon is the 3 or the 2 best guild server wide, Bruther leader of Iratus Lepus also has ghostkillers in the guild, Seaza officer of huhu horde once up on a time was there but he sold his toon but has an army of toons in there as well ghostkilling. Raptor officer of Iratus Lepus also has toons in the guild and in Iratus Lepus that have and still ghostkilled. Somta zerker in Triality ghostkiller from huhu horde and Iratus Lepus.
They all know gms that if you report them will get you banned when i told them i would report them to a gm i was guild remove and anyone else that i know that also know this, not only has Iratus Lepus ghostkilled toons make it bad for anyone that knows they ghostkill events with there monks or what ever toons they have and learn the events then go in as a guild. they have a rog full solt gear name Iratus who is raptors alt that was made on the server that was in full solt gear before anyone else even when the guild was on in the zone yet doing raids.
What makes the game bad is this every guild has a gm that will banned you and i dont care what you all have to say really yes gm can change the logs. i have seen it done if you were to report anyone from any of them guilds you will get banned thats the way it is and thats the way it will always be. and thats like half of what i know i know of gm that run guilds on the 7th hammer, ab, ms is another guild they all ghostkill to be were they are some way our another and if you report them or say they ghostkill they call there gm friends up and will have you banned and all your toons.
I have lost about 2 toons due to this and i will lose more but soe needs to do something about it check there logs for warping ghostkilling and macroing thats why eq is the way it is now. because og top guild + gm that run it darkrah the rest power level toons sell pp and ghostkill mobs.
The reason soe has been banning people in the last 3 months is to keep guilds like this in business and thats how it is. i will not stand by and see it no more. if you want ss of any ghostkilling any of these toons have done and gms helping them just pm me i will send it to you thanks for your time.
all toons have alts that have and still ghostkill from tss all the way to sof and yes they have killed it all just send them a tell and ask.
I'll take your $5. I was one of the 10,000 who logged on that first day of release and played for over 4 years straight until SOE ruined the game after Brad left.$5 says I started playing EQ before you. I've played EQ off and on for the last 8 years so I know the changing landscape. Just because you, Mr. "Old School EQ Player", can't adjust to the way EQ is now played gives you NO right to attack it's current members for wanting to box to have fun in the game. Your response is bigoted and ignorant and you should be ashamed of it. To think, you want to dictate to other people how THEY should enjoy the game!? What are you? Abashi? Are you old school enough to remember how he changed the game and infuriated people by basically telling them how to enjoy it? Congratulations, you're so in tune with old EQ you now channel how Verant acted in it's early stages.
I also mostly soloed, and soloing is about playing one character and relying on that character's skills only. Multiboxers are cheaters, circumventing game design by artificially creating their own hybrids and using bots to accomplish solo what they were not intended to accomplish solo and benefiting from multiple class skills without grouping and sharing experience and loot. If the designers intended players to be able to play multiple characters at the same time, they would allow every player to do so with a single account.
Multiboxers ruin immersion, by filling the game with lifeless soulless characters and bots. Based on my experience multiboxers are rude, hog mobs and entire areas, to powerlevel a character or farm items for goldselling. That doesn't make me bigoted, it is fact based on my experience.
You will lose , I started Oct 1999. I left about 6 months into PoP, the expansion that destroyed EQ. I mostly grouped and played a Warrior, but my favorite was my Druid.
You both lose, I have been playing since the day of release also, but unlike both of y'all I have never quit eq, I still play to this day, +640 days played on my druid, 78 days played on my monk, 35 days Played on my paladin, 26 days played on ranger, 20 Days played necro, 17 days played rogue, 10+ days played on bard.
I have played solo, in groups, in raids and with boxxers. I have seen nice boxxers and rude regular groups, and even rude soloers. so just saying ONLY boxxers are rude is generalizing when it isnt true, anyone can be rude. i have seen both rude and nice of all the various people around.
As for how people play, that is up to THEM, it is Their choice on how they play, it is NOT up to you to Nazi Rule how to play this game. Last I checked, this game is a freedom form type of game where you have many different ways you can play this game, not JUST grouping. I have done the best of all worlds and enjoyed em all. except box myself, I cant afford that, but i have grouped with boxxers before and had a ton of fun.
Last I checked EQ1's population was in the toilet, I think that more than proves who is right.
A Dr00d, what a surprise, and 600+ days played is sad. I played a Warrior, or as I called em a "wimpior", WoW fixed the Warrior and everyone of the WARRIORS I knew bailed crappy EQ1 for WoW, and that amounted to hundreds of "Wimpiors" tired of incompetant SOE devs unable and unwilling to fixthe most popular class.
Is this a joke. Every day employees of banks getting caught funnelling money out to private accounts for like $5k. Most businesses have people stealing from them every day. Risk Management is a term for companies that have items in stock that they sell like Best Buy. Sony hold intellectual property in their items and portions out productions to other companies. Thus Sony does not need Risk Management. Instead they have Internal Security looking for hackers and such. Please they day a company does not have people defrauding them or stealing from them is the day all the people on the Earth hold hands and share in a socialist utopia.
Everquest or SOE has a real corrupt CS dept. Employees are getting the most they can before it goes belly up imo. I have heard rumors of banning accounts of people that might have grouped without knowing someone was using MQ2 in the group. Then the banned toons get ebayed out on fresh accounts by employees.
And that's the real problem- you're sucked into buying more accounts and giving the company the illusion of success, when it's really FAILING to deliver what it promised you. You were promised the ability to play and have fun with lots of other people - it is an MMO, right? You were promised that you'd be able to do this with 1 account and 1 character at a time, right?
But instead of accepting the fact that SOE has failed its promises to you, you make the mistake of giving them even MORE money so that you can keep playing. So they are rewarded for screwing up. Tell me, if that's what is going to happen, why should they try to attract more people to the game? They can get 5 times the money from one player this way. That's 1/5 the customer support needs for the same bucks.
So I'm sorry you made that mistake, when the correct answer is- cancel your sub. Tell them why- low pop, nobody to group with, solo content sucks. And tell them that if you get the numbers back up, you'll come back, but until then, you're on to a different game.
Then go play a different game. Not necessarily an MMORPG, just anything to take it's place (like chewing gum instead of smoking lol). That's the only way that the company can get a real impression of how its doing, and what it needs to do to do better.
That's the real evil of multiboxers- you are not counted as multiboxers by the sales reports, you're counted as several different players, but somehow the company doesn't have to support you anywhere near as much.
Same with Eve(il) Online - their playerbase is much smaller than it appears, because their pseudo-"skills" training system encourages multiple accounts, and you can run multiple games on one computer at once. So surprise, virtually everyone has multiple accounts going so they can "win" the game. The company gets to roll cheap, crappy software and lie about the game experience, because the players are stupid enough to reward them with more money to get what they were promised in the first place.
After reading the multiple posts from the original OP. I have to say I am quite happy I left SOE when I did. Right after Planes of Power was released. Also when NGE hit SWG. Yes the guild leaderis misinforming that responded in defense to accusations that are quite true. Glad if I need my EQ fix I go to a private server.(Its all scars of velious and earlier) No SOE, Hackerquest idiots involved.
I belonged to a PG guild in both DAOC and WOW. Was in it for almost 4 years. Same people different name. I know this guild leader is lying his arse off. Wish I would have been there. Would have packet lossed the whole zone just for him. But once again. I do not like SOE and will always refuse to use them. SOE is like the Gamers version of AOL. I hate them as well.. Wonder what happened to them !
So to the OP, Hope you find a better mmo. You, your wife and son may enjoy LOTRO. Its very fun with very few /farmers.. Besides you can spot them 100 miles away in LOTRO.
Sorry, don't believe this story at all. You were probably the one hacking, and you were busted. Or you both were hacking, and both got busted thinking you would rat each other out.
Good work releasing this information but the game is already on it's deathbed. Although, after reading this I'll be sure not to play another SOE game no matter what.
My best advice is to just avoid $OE at all cost. They are not known for their ethics in gaming. Not to bast EQ, but honestly the game is dead at this point which I know does not justify shady GMs, but it helps one understand why it is ignored.
I'll take your $5. I was one of the 10,000 who logged on that first day of release and played for over 4 years straight until SOE ruined the game after Brad left.$5 says I started playing EQ before you. I've played EQ off and on for the last 8 years so I know the changing landscape. Just because you, Mr. "Old School EQ Player", can't adjust to the way EQ is now played gives you NO right to attack it's current members for wanting to box to have fun in the game. Your response is bigoted and ignorant and you should be ashamed of it. To think, you want to dictate to other people how THEY should enjoy the game!? What are you? Abashi? Are you old school enough to remember how he changed the game and infuriated people by basically telling them how to enjoy it? Congratulations, you're so in tune with old EQ you now channel how Verant acted in it's early stages.
I also mostly soloed, and soloing is about playing one character and relying on that character's skills only. Multiboxers are cheaters, circumventing game design by artificially creating their own hybrids and using bots to accomplish solo what they were not intended to accomplish solo and benefiting from multiple class skills without grouping and sharing experience and loot. If the designers intended players to be able to play multiple characters at the same time, they would allow every player to do so with a single account.
Multiboxers ruin immersion, by filling the game with lifeless soulless characters and bots. Based on my experience multiboxers are rude, hog mobs and entire areas, to powerlevel a character or farm items for goldselling. That doesn't make me bigoted, it is fact based on my experience.
You will lose , I started Oct 1999. I left about 6 months into PoP, the expansion that destroyed EQ. I mostly grouped and played a Warrior, but my favorite was my Druid.
You both lose, I have been playing since the day of release also, but unlike both of y'all I have never quit eq, I still play to this day, +640 days played on my druid, 78 days played on my monk, 35 days Played on my paladin, 26 days played on ranger, 20 Days played necro, 17 days played rogue, 10+ days played on bard.
I have played solo, in groups, in raids and with boxxers. I have seen nice boxxers and rude regular groups, and even rude soloers. so just saying ONLY boxxers are rude is generalizing when it isnt true, anyone can be rude. i have seen both rude and nice of all the various people around.
As for how people play, that is up to THEM, it is Their choice on how they play, it is NOT up to you to Nazi Rule how to play this game. Last I checked, this game is a freedom form type of game where you have many different ways you can play this game, not JUST grouping. I have done the best of all worlds and enjoyed em all. except box myself, I cant afford that, but i have grouped with boxxers before and had a ton of fun.
Please, please don't fight.....
In my opinion, you are all losers.
Epic fail
"Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one ..." - Thomas Paine
Shenanigans, unfortunately.
A guild mate of mine was one of the founders of Fan Faire, when it was truly run by the fans. He was eventually hired by Sony and Fan Faire was taken over. He was banned from EQ and fired, because he abused his powers and gave items to at least one friend in another guild. This was right when Kunark was published and the items he gave his friend(s) were drops that hadn't yet been discovered on the server (Lanys T'Vyl), because nobody had even reached Veeshan's Peak or any of the dragons yet.
in another incident, my gulid inadvertently got a bunch of guides banned. We used to have a well known, weekly fight night in the arena in Lake Rathe. We were fighting one week when a bunch of guides showed up and challenged us. It was, hands down, one of the best times I ever had in EQ. It was ridiculously fun trying to kill the guides, being killed by them, etc.. A short while later, the guides disappeared and some GMs ported in. The guides were banned and dismissed from the program for breaking the rules they agreed to.
~Ripper
huked on foniks werked 4 me!!!11!!
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I ask for so little. Just fear me, love me, do as I say and I will be your slave.
When I used to play WoW. I was invited to a party for a raid and I told them I would be their in like 6 mins cuz I had to fly all the way out. Then why I FINALLY got to the zone where the raid is, I got dropped from the party so I asked leader WTF. And he was like, "Well we got out GM running us."
I was like WTF, you invited me asking if I could come in the first place, you dont just drop a guy you practically begged to come. Then I started talking to the GM telling him what happened and he was "Chill its just a game"... This hella PO'd me cuz he got an easy button with god mode and instant level cap on it, while people like me half to actual get raids and "level up". GM interference is hella annoying. It's just like all those foreigners coming into a country and taking the local's jobs, except in this case the foreigners have platinum grills and are set for life, but they just want to take your spot because they can.
Leave it to SOE to ruin what used to be a great game. Quite a shame, really.
Worse happened in EQ, Krieger on Tunare had member GMs that banned people that angered the guild. They would also clear Fear if the Krieger guild wiped on a raid and GM rez everyone in a safe spot and start the raid over!
do you really have a choice when the world of norrath is dwindling down.
I had an experience a long time ago that made me question a GM's integrity. I posted this in short terms in another post, but figured it fit here as well.
I had a 3 day weekend from work, so I decided to camp the spawn for the beastlord epic in Timorous Deep. I was camping it for hours(killing raptors once in awhile to keep myself sane) and suddenly a lvl 10 ranger showed up and sat behind me. I doubted this person had enough conviction to sit there for as long as I could, so I mentioned it to my guild and continued to just stare blankly at the spot where the scout was going to spawn. This continued for awhile and I started to get really bored, so I decided to kill a few more raptors. I went to pull one and it was running up toward me, when it suddenly made a beeline for the ranger(who was seated). I didn't even have time to do anything to pull it off the ranger before they died. Before I could even apologize, I received a nasty /tell about it and got threatened with a banning. I explained what had happened, but it wasn't good enough and was told I wasn't going to get the scout when it did spawn(believe she actually said she was going to kill it).
After that, I heard nothing further from the ranger, so I forgot about them and continued my camp. I slept 2 hours the first night(with my guild leader watching the spawn for me and she had my phone # if it spawned). Second day, nothing eventful and I slept another 2 hours. On the third day, it spawned and I finished typing and sending "It's up!" to my guild...when suddenly a female beastlord runs up and takes the scout spawn. I sent her a /tell and that's when I found out it was her. She made some rude comments to me and I ended up petitioning her.
Not too long later, I received a /tell from a GM and I stated what happened. Guess what? I got yelled at by the GM who said the beastlord was a really great person and I must have purposely killed her with the raptor and deserved what I got. I tried to explain that it was an accident, but she was rude to me from the beginning and was completely siding with the other beastlord. This made me wonder because it seemed like she was friends with the beastlord(or maybe it was her own character, who knows). Later that day, I receive a /tell from my guild leader, she tells me that she logged on and saw it was up AGAIN....a 3 day spawn...twice in 1 day? Something was wrong here... It was too late for me to get it though.
A few days later, that GM was transferred to a different server. Always made me wonder if she was transferred for something she did on that day.