I'll roll alts on both types of servers just to see how the game plays on the Core Servers (sort of an 'as Mythic intended' thing)
I can see playing on the Core servers would allow people to just to PvE if they're not in the mood for PvP. PvP servers would require you to be alert all the time, I could see sometimes just wanting to do some nice, simple PvE-ing without worrying about looking over your shoulder.
As others have said, it's nice to have some choice. I have not yet decided what server type I will be on. It will probably be RP, but if there is a PVP-RP that will be tempting and probably mean I'll try both.
RP servers tend to be a little less 1337-speak-ish, and are more pleasant for me to be around. I know that some people love their 1337-speak though, and I certainly wouldn't want to deny them their server. I'm glad there are options.
Originally posted by Satarious Well, they're trying to cater to the pve folks out there. It makes sense to make certain areas pve only since griefers will most assuredly ruin any sort of pve fun. If I had my way, there wouldn't be "pve areas" in the strictest sense. Rather, there should be many high level guards patrolling the area so that any enemy players would be attacked on site. It would make it a bit more realistic than just completely blocking off certain areas for pve.
High elves, Dark elves, Orcs, Goblins, Dwarves, mages....and you're worried about realistic?
Unless the griefing really gets out of hand I am going to go for open RvR. For me the fact that you can never be 100% safe only adds to the game appeal and I wouldn't have it any other way. As for people wanting Core realms I respect their choice, I don't see a point of forcing people into pvp.
Imagine: The game starts off, there will (Most surely) be 100 of thousands ppl who have purchased the game before you ->Means that they are stronger than you.
You are walking on a flower field when you notice a single dot in the horizon. Next to the dot comes another. And another. The horizon is blackened with players from the same guild who have just one goal: Kill some Newb's to gain points.
That is my only worry when starting on a PvP server. But as I prolly will preorder the game (If possible) I hope I can be the ones chasin newb's at the flower field with my guild.
So I'd say there is no reason not to play in PvP server. Unless you are a Newb. If you are Newb go play in normal server so your Battlefront will have a chance of winning. Becouse newb's ruin the game by dying.
But I'm sure you wont be one so there isn't a reason not to start off in a PvP server.
Imagine: The game starts off, there will (Most surely) be 100 of thousands ppl who have purchased the game before you ->Means that they are stronger than you. You are walking on a flower field when you notice a single dot in the horizon. Next to the dot comes another. And another. The horizon is blackened with players from the same guild who have just one goal: Kill some Newb's to gain points. That is my only worry when starting on a PvP server. But as I prolly will preorder the game (If possible) I hope I can be the ones chasin newb's at the flower field with my guild. So I'd say there is no reason not to play in PvP server. Unless you are a Newb. If you are Newb go play in normal server so your Battlefront will have a chance of winning. Becouse newb's ruin the game by dying. But I'm sure you wont be one so there isn't a reason not to start off in a PvP server. I haveth spoketh.
And it's this arrogantly annoying attitude is why I am SOO glad they have a server for your kind!
My wife and I will RVR with the best of you, but when we want to spend our hard earned time and money not playing "I PWNZOR JOO NOOB!" with the kiddies that must have someone to gank/grief to feel important...
We like that option. So I'll be on my Core server, quite content not dealing with the mass of neanderthal mentality of those that feel they MUST ruin others day or else be thought of as weak, or newbs.
Cause honestly, zerg rushing people that are less able to defend themselves, it's not skill, it's the epitome of being a newb.
i think all servers should be full pvp since you are right but there are ppl who for som reason dont like pvp and chose to stay away from it.. personally i dont know how they play an online game and not wanna pvp hell the only reason i still play wow ( for now ) is im on a pvp server if it wasnt for the occasional gank every now and thern i would be able to stand the game, dont get me wrong pve is ok but whats the point getting cool gear and high lvls if you dfont get to use that shiny new sword on some poor unexspecing noobs till they call in there end game buds or alts ;-) im sure tho that they will have some pve but prolly be more pvp servers than pve.
Mark:The first one we're calling just Open RvR. In that ruleset, other than killing newbies, if you can see an enemy, you can kill an enemy. It is not consentual. They do not have to flag themselves. They do not have to do anything other than sit there and be a target for you. You can go out and happily slaughter Stunties wherever you can find them. Disembowel Dark Elfs, and do other nasty things to Greenskins. So that's number one.
Number 2. Right now called the Core Ruleset. That one is the rule-set where similar to the open ruleset, you cannot kill newbies, cause that's just wrong. Then within the PvE protected zones, or areas, or chapters, we're going to use different things to describe them. The moment an enemy enters into them, that enemy is flagged for RvR. You cannot unflag yourself. The moment you cross into the PvE zone you become a target for anything that is attuned to that realm. If you want to engage in PvP you can with other players, but there it does have to be consentual. Within the RvR areas you cannot unflag yourself, you are always flagged. Within the neutral area, we're talking about that. Will it be safe, will it not be safe. That's one the things we've got to look at. The thing is when you are PvEing in a protected zone, it is always consentual. A neutral area for example might be when you have to cross to a PvE area but both sides use it. It's not for hunting, maybe it's a bridge, maybe it's a road. But that's what we're looking at. it might be consentual it might not. The takeaway is, safe PvE, consentual PvP, and no flagging in RvR areas.
The third one we're going to do, is an RP server. We had them in Camelot and we'll have them here. This will be a standard ruleset for now. However during the during beta we will be doing more polls, more posting and take the temperature of the players and if there is a lot of support for an Open RvR RP rule-set or there isn't as much support for core rule-set RP server, we'll make the appropriate changes. We want to give the players what they want, not what they all want. There are some players as you know who want an FFA server. Right now that's not in our plans. But maybe a year down the road, if players really wanted it, if there was support there and we could make ruleset adjustments to make it work, we would consider it
Open RvR for me. This game is fully centered around RvR, it would just feel wrong for me if there were areas in the game regulated in a way core servers will do.
i think all servers should be full pvp since you are right but there are ppl who for som reason dont like pvp and chose to stay away from it.. personally i dont know how they play an online game and not wanna pvp hell the only reason i still play wow ( for now ) is im on a pvp server if it wasnt for the occasional gank every now and thern i would be able to stand the game, dont get me wrong pve is ok but whats the point getting cool gear and high lvls if you dfont get to use that shiny new sword on some poor unexspecing noobs till they call in there end game buds or alts ;-) im sure tho that they will have some pve but prolly be more pvp servers than pve.
You'd be surprised. I'm going to bet there will be more or less equal numbers of Open RVR and Core servers. Plently of PVP action to be found on both types I'm sure.
I'll be playing on Core when I'm soling a character and on Core when I'm playing with my son. (because there's safety number)
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aye. War is everywhere has nothing to do with 100% pvp. Some ppl just prefer to have a peace of mind when they pve. Its like u cant watch TV and have sex at the sametime.
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Different PvP rules? I thought the only rule was one guy killed another... That's how I play anyways....
I'll roll alts on both types of servers just to see how the game plays on the Core Servers (sort of an 'as Mythic intended' thing)
I can see playing on the Core servers would allow people to just to PvE if they're not in the mood for PvP. PvP servers would require you to be alert all the time, I could see sometimes just wanting to do some nice, simple PvE-ing without worrying about looking over your shoulder.
As others have said, it's nice to have some choice. I have not yet decided what server type I will be on. It will probably be RP, but if there is a PVP-RP that will be tempting and probably mean I'll try both.
RP servers tend to be a little less 1337-speak-ish, and are more pleasant for me to be around. I know that some people love their 1337-speak though, and I certainly wouldn't want to deny them their server. I'm glad there are options.
High elves, Dark elves, Orcs, Goblins, Dwarves, mages....and you're worried about realistic?
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Unless the griefing really gets out of hand I am going to go for open RvR. For me the fact that you can never be 100% safe only adds to the game appeal and I wouldn't have it any other way. As for people wanting Core realms I respect their choice, I don't see a point of forcing people into pvp.
Imagine: The game starts off, there will (Most surely) be 100 of thousands ppl who have purchased the game before you ->Means that they are stronger than you.
You are walking on a flower field when you notice a single dot in the horizon. Next to the dot comes another. And another. The horizon is blackened with players from the same guild who have just one goal: Kill some Newb's to gain points.
That is my only worry when starting on a PvP server. But as I prolly will preorder the game (If possible) I hope I can be the ones chasin newb's at the flower field with my guild.
So I'd say there is no reason not to play in PvP server. Unless you are a Newb. If you are Newb go play in normal server so your Battlefront will have a chance of winning. Becouse newb's ruin the game by dying.
But I'm sure you wont be one so there isn't a reason not to start off in a PvP server.
I haveth spoketh.
And it's this arrogantly annoying attitude is why I am SOO glad they have a server for your kind!
My wife and I will RVR with the best of you, but when we want to spend our hard earned time and money not playing "I PWNZOR JOO NOOB!" with the kiddies that must have someone to gank/grief to feel important...
We like that option. So I'll be on my Core server, quite content not dealing with the mass of neanderthal mentality of those that feel they MUST ruin others day or else be thought of as weak, or newbs.
Cause honestly, zerg rushing people that are less able to defend themselves, it's not skill, it's the epitome of being a newb.
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I haven't decided which server type to play on, but I'm leaning towards RP at the moment.
Ultimately, it doesn't matter which server I pick, as I will spend most of my time in RvR zones anyway.
I'm not here to complete my forum PVP dailies.
i think all servers should be full pvp since you are right but there are ppl who for som reason dont like pvp and chose to stay away from it.. personally i dont know how they play an online game and not wanna pvp hell the only reason i still play wow ( for now ) is im on a pvp server if it wasnt for the occasional gank every now and thern i would be able to stand the game, dont get me wrong pve is ok but whats the point getting cool gear and high lvls if you dfont get to use that shiny new sword on some poor unexspecing noobs till they call in there end game buds or alts ;-) im sure tho that they will have some pve but prolly be more pvp servers than pve.
Orignal Link: http://www.warhammeralliance.com/articles/showentry.php?e=32
Here is Mark Jacobs of EA Mythic words
Mark: The first one we're calling just Open RvR. In that ruleset, other than killing newbies, if you can see an enemy, you can kill an enemy. It is not consentual. They do not have to flag themselves. They do not have to do anything other than sit there and be a target for you. You can go out and happily slaughter Stunties wherever you can find them. Disembowel Dark Elfs, and do other nasty things to Greenskins. So that's number one.
Number 2. Right now called the Core Ruleset. That one is the rule-set where similar to the open ruleset, you cannot kill newbies, cause that's just wrong. Then within the PvE protected zones, or areas, or chapters, we're going to use different things to describe them. The moment an enemy enters into them, that enemy is flagged for RvR. You cannot unflag yourself. The moment you cross into the PvE zone you become a target for anything that is attuned to that realm. If you want to engage in PvP you can with other players, but there it does have to be consentual. Within the RvR areas you cannot unflag yourself, you are always flagged. Within the neutral area, we're talking about that. Will it be safe, will it not be safe. That's one the things we've got to look at. The thing is when you are PvEing in a protected zone, it is always consentual. A neutral area for example might be when you have to cross to a PvE area but both sides use it. It's not for hunting, maybe it's a bridge, maybe it's a road. But that's what we're looking at. it might be consentual it might not. The takeaway is, safe PvE, consentual PvP, and no flagging in RvR areas.
The third one we're going to do, is an RP server. We had them in Camelot and we'll have them here. This will be a standard ruleset for now. However during the during beta we will be doing more polls, more posting and take the temperature of the players and if there is a lot of support for an Open RvR RP rule-set or there isn't as much support for core rule-set RP server, we'll make the appropriate changes. We want to give the players what they want, not what they all want. There are some players as you know who want an FFA server. Right now that's not in our plans. But maybe a year down the road, if players really wanted it, if there was support there and we could make ruleset adjustments to make it work, we would consider it
Open RvR for me. This game is fully centered around RvR, it would just feel wrong for me if there were areas in the game regulated in a way core servers will do.
You'd be surprised. I'm going to bet there will be more or less equal numbers of Open RVR and Core servers. Plently of PVP action to be found on both types I'm sure.
I'll be playing on Core when I'm soling a character and on Core when I'm playing with my son. (because there's safety number)
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aye. War is everywhere has nothing to do with 100% pvp. Some ppl just prefer to have a peace of mind when they pve. Its like u cant watch TV and have sex at the sametime.