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The final Truth about Darkfall -

LobotomistLobotomist Member EpicPosts: 5,981

Taken from this source

www.mmo-gamer.com/

Quote:

"Six years in development is a long time, even for a small team of developers. While this fact alone shouldn’t be cause for alarm, the curiously small amount of real updates and information about the game could be. Not only that, but developing a game costs money – developers have to eat! And six years is an eternity without a product."

 

It is undeniable we talk about very small company here. Not even the most rabid fan would deny that.

The game that started development 6 years ago - by today has such outdated engine that it can not stand nowhere near 2008 standards. Not in graphic, not in networking or in AI.

The game best chance (judging from its age) is to look something like Shadowbane or Asherons Call.

 

quote:

"Asp seemed genuinely excited about the game. A write-up of his visit was posted on the Lords Of Death website (subsequently pasted all over) and in it he said, “Frankly, based on the demo I played, I felt I could put up with a heck of a lot of issues just to begin playing this thing as soon as possible. IT LOOKED AND PLAYED THAT GOOD!”"

Asp obviously played technical demo of the game.

Just as information for someone not in the industry. Technical demo is something developed before actual game development starts. It is like "sketch" of how the game might play. Its use is to be shown to

investors.

 

Finally

If Darkfall would actually be released. It would be so under any expectations the community built for it over the years ...that the same community will BURN it in mater of days.

 

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  • DradiinDradiin Member Posts: 259

    Yaaay bob you hate DF, now go play another game.

    Seriously who cares what you think ?

    Bunch of mindless drivel coming from all you game haters, its moronic.

  • CaesarsGhostCaesarsGhost Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,136

    When I was at Rapid Reality, we had people come visit and play the game all the time.  They all saw Technical Demos, that were the latest build.

    While it's quite possible to throw together a quick and easy Technical Demo of a game in, say, Torque (as I did with my company), doing it on a server and allowing several people to play and interact with it is a completely different story.

    One visitor said to me: "You should just release this right here." for our Tech Demo too. 

     

    EDIT: the one we showed them was being played by possible investors in another state at the same time, so there was a working server layer and it was played remotely.

    - CaesarsGhost

    Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
    "When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."

  • Xris375Xris375 Member Posts: 1,005

    Lol - you actually think there is any hint of the code in DF ala Razorwax left in todays version of DF ?

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    And when we got more women on the team, it was like ‘No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there.’ ”
    John Smedley, SOE

  • BadSpockBadSpock Member UncommonPosts: 7,979

    You're right Lobotomist.

    If this game isn't the 2nd coming, the community will be small and eventually rip itself apart.

    Too much hype, too much waiting, not enough information.

     

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  • Xris375Xris375 Member Posts: 1,005

    Originally posted by heerobya


    You're right Lobotomist.
    If this game isn't the 2nd coming, the community will be small and eventually rip itself apart.
    Too much hype, too much waiting, not enough information.
     

    I agree on the information being lacking but a dev journal every two weeks is hardly any hype. If you want hype, I suggest the AoC or WAR forums

    <--- that way

    The artice brought nothing new, just guesswork and shallow google investigation. Lobo inserted his own opinions as facts as usual, nothing new there.

    You don't need a quality game to keep afloat. The chances as "rip it selves aport" is pretty remote. I mean, there are STILL people who are paying to play the beta known as Vanguard!. You hypothis on community relations is interesting but unless you back it up with facts, it is just another opinion.

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    And when we got more women on the team, it was like ‘No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there.’ ”
    John Smedley, SOE

  • 28days28days Member Posts: 213
    Originally posted by solareus
    If this was any old asian mmo cookie cutter game, then the op would have a point, but DF is so far out of the thinking box it deserves all the time it needs to give the community a smooth and very easy launch ...  



    Excuse me??  Far out of the thinking box??   Darkfall is nothing more than a Shadowbane clone with a few extra bells and whistles.  Or a UO clone...

    Originally posted by Xris375


     
     
    I agree on the information being lacking but a dev journal every two weeks is hardly any hype. If you want hype, I suggest the AoC or WAR forums

    At least they actually have virtually complete games to hyoe.

  • KordeshKordesh Member Posts: 1,715
    Originally posted by 28days

    Originally posted by solareus
    If this was any old asian mmo cookie cutter game, then the op would have a point, but DF is so far out of the thinking box it deserves all the time it needs to give the community a smooth and very easy launch ...  



    Excuse me??  Far out of the thinking box??   Darkfall is nothing more than a Shadowbane clone with a few extra bells and whistles.  Or a UO clone...

     

    Why is that a bad thing? If they can bring back oldschool UO or do shadowbane correctly, then they can clone whatever the hell they want. Sadly, I don't see this game coming out at all.

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  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276

    And both UO and SB were point and click. DF is more a FPS. And that is a completely different gameplay. So there have not been anything in the MMO history with the same plans as DF.

  • Xris375Xris375 Member Posts: 1,005

    Originally posted by 28days

    Originally posted by solareus
    If this was any old asian mmo cookie cutter game, then the op would have a point, but DF is so far out of the thinking box it deserves all the time it needs to give the community a smooth and very easy launch ...  



    Excuse me??  Far out of the thinking box??   Darkfall is nothing more than a Shadowbane clone with a few extra bells and whistles.  Or a UO clone...

     

    Originally posted by Xris375


     
     
    I agree on the information being lacking but a dev journal every two weeks is hardly any hype. If you want hype, I suggest the AoC or WAR forums

     

    At least they actually have virtually complete games to hyoe.

    Virtually complete game ? You mean beta since 2006, delayed 7 times complete ? You mean, limited "open" beta - please buy the collectors edition before you try it complete ? DF may indeed suck - that is why I will try before buy.

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    And when we got more women on the team, it was like ‘No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there.’ ”
    John Smedley, SOE

  • 28days28days Member Posts: 213

    I'll gurantee you without a shadow of a doubt that Age of Conan , whatever shape it's currently in , is leaps and bounds ahead of Darkfall in every area possible..

  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276

    Exept fun and uniqe gameplay

  • PolarizationPolarization Member Posts: 1,410
    Originally posted by daarco


    Exept fun and uniqe gameplay




    Unfortunately that fun and unique game play only exists in your imagination when you fantasize about the game and might not have any relation to reality.

    Of course I expect no game that’s actually released or in beta will ever be able to compete with your hopes and dreams about Darkfall.


    Until cold hard reality possibly prevents Darkfall from continuing to provide such a fertile subject matter for your imagination at some time in the future.
  • DefendpeaceDefendpeace Member Posts: 91

    you think if its poloished and not bug to hell it will be better than AOcrap

  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276

    Originally posted by Polarization

    Originally posted by daarco


    Exept fun and uniqe gameplay



     

    Unfortunately that fun and unique game play only exists in your imagination when you fantasize about the game and might not have any relation to reality.

    Of course I expect no game that’s actually released or in beta will ever be able to compete with your hopes and dreams about Darkfall.


    Until cold hard reality possibly prevents Darkfall from continuing to provide such a fertile subject matter for your imagination at some time in the future.

    Of course i have to fantasize about that gameplay. Noone else is even trying. I had my hopes for AoC and WAR. Both had such high potentcial. Then i found out that WAR will have the same gameplay as WoW, i couldnt believe it. So all my hopes ended on AoC....wich sounded really good. But after every new bit of released information.....it seems to br the same old gameplay. Ok, they claim to have a "realtime combat system". And i really give them creds for that.

     

  • AethiosAethios Member Posts: 1,527


    Originally posted by daarco
    Ok, they claim to have a "realtime combat system". And i really give them creds for that.


    I hate to break it to you, but "real-time combat system" actually means "not turn-based." It isn't some revolutionary system they've invented for this one game... it's the same broken system we've been using for ten years.

  • ermordenermorden Member Posts: 133
    Originally posted by Dradiin


    Yaaay bob you hate DF, now go play another game.
    Seriously who cares what you think ?
    Bunch of mindless drivel coming from all you game haters, its moronic.

    Here here!  Tired of these people.  It's either a troll or someone ragging on the game. 

  • ermordenermorden Member Posts: 133

    BTW Daarco,

    AoC has target-seeking ranged attacks.  Complete crap as far as I am concerned.  Was the same as Tabula Rasa, claiming to have "FPS-like" combat.  BS!  No skill involved whatsoever.  DF is the only thing (besides Chronicles of the Spellborn) trying to incorporate FPS into MMORPG. 

  • ermordenermorden Member Posts: 133
    Originally posted by 28days


    I'll gurantee you without a shadow of a doubt that Age of Conan , whatever shape it's currently in , is leaps and bounds ahead of Darkfall in every area possible..

    LOL!!!!!  Nice one.  Now go finish choking yourself. 

  • LobotomistLobotomist Member EpicPosts: 5,981

    You  know what.

    One should really bow to your ability to completely disregard reallity , live in a dream world, and see pink grass instead gray concrete

     

    You want to know another revolutionary PVP game made by a small group of people , you want to see how it looks ?

    Go play Roma Victor , or perhaps the ol' time favorite Dark and Light !

    A unknown team of handfull of people in Greece , with modest budget and no previous experience - making better game than a team of 150 people on a budget of 50 million dollars.

    It is like saying that Albanians are launching Space Shuttle to moon

     

     

     

     



  • fantarosfantaros Member Posts: 394

    Perhaps if those 50 people with the 150 million budget spent more time developing their game according to their initial ideas instead of doing PR events every 2nd weekend they would have a better game than your typical cookie-cutter mmo. Lemme remind u they have been polishing their game since last august.

    Holy crap that is one expensive polishing job.

     

  • LobotomistLobotomist Member EpicPosts: 5,981

    Its 150 people with 50 million budget.

    But in any case 50 mil is way enough money for PR events and high payed industry specialist.

     

    And believe me , good programmers will be where the money is.

    If Darkfall actually have this genious programmers that can pull a miracle code they say they can.

    After 6 years these people would get better offers. I remind you that company is in Greece , the living standards are not very stellar there. And a real GENIOUS coder (like the one making Darkfall , lets assume for humour sake) would be snatched by AUSTIN , or UK studio , with his salary trippled.

    This genious would perhaps out of pure love turn down this offer.

    But 6 years is a long time, and huge money loss for him...



  • SlampigSlampig Member UncommonPosts: 2,342

    "...I remind you that company is in Greece , the living standards are not very stellar there..."

     

    Greece is what...the ghetto?

    That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!

  • fantarosfantaros Member Posts: 394

    Possibly worse....

    /sarcasm off

     

    Triple salary means nothing, not if your rent is tripled, the cost of groceries is tripled, cigarretes price is tripled, gas is tripled.

     

    And since i am Greek retract your comment, its one thing to attack a company or an individual, its another thing attacking a whole country.

  • ermordenermorden Member Posts: 133

    Originally posted by fantaros


    Possibly worse....
    /sarcasm off
     
    Triple salary means nothing, not if your rent is tripled, the cost of groceries is tripled, cigarretes price is tripled, gas is tripled.
     
    And since i am Greek retract your comment, its one thing to attack a company or an individual, its another thing attacking a whole country.
    Easy Fantaros... not something worth regarding. 

    Darkfall has a small team with (at least) 20 million in funds.  They have said over and over that funding is not a problem here.  As it stands now, the -only- thing holding the Dev team from announcing a beta is the decision on how to handle publishing.  They have had self-publishing in mind from day one, but if there is a better offer out there.. a better deal.. it is definitely worth investing time in.  I stand by my estimate that we will hear a beta announcement before the end of May and release late summer/fall. 

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