Unless you have actually tested DF, you have no idea what you are talking about. Just more lies.
No it's just the most logical conclusion made by looking at all the facts....
Well, you don't have all the facts, do you?
I don't need all the facts to come to a logical conclusion about Darkfall. All you need to do is look at it's history and you have all the "facts" you need.
yes you do
--- And when we got more women on the team, it was like No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there. John Smedley, SOE
Unless you have actually tested DF, you have no idea what you are talking about. Just more lies.
No it's just the most logical conclusion made by looking at all the facts....
Well, you don't have all the facts, do you? You have no idea what DF will play like at all. In fact you haven't tested the game. You are just a AoC fanboi who fears the competition.
Well, you don't have all the facts,do you? You have no idea what DF will play like at all. In fact you haven't tested the game. You are just Darkfall fanboi who fears the Facts.
That is right, I don't have the facts on DF. I have made NO assumptions on the quality of DF either.
I don't fear any facts and have no need for making up new "facts" either.
As for the quality of AoC I could have said alot but that would probably have started a witchhunt for my friends in beta.
--- And when we got more women on the team, it was like No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there. John Smedley, SOE
Finally If Darkfall would actually be released. It would be so under any expectations the community built for it over the years ...that the same community will BURN it in mater of days.
The end
I missed this little gem. I always like the assumptions you people made. (which of course don't get remarked by polization or who ever that accuse the fanbois for assuming things). Or aren't they assumptions?
So, have you played the game? If yes, please do tell us. Or why do you worry about this game then and the people that are following it, if, as you say, its community itself will burn it after release? Why do you bother coming here and telling us that if it doesn't deliver it won't succeed? Or do you just like to state the obvious?
OP/28days and the other Darkfall trolls is just some selfish egoscentric carebear players that wanna piss on the only coming none WOW clone with skilled PvP, full loot and total freedom. The ingame features also make us hope for some awsome ingame heat and longlasting fun. Its the hardcore PvPers long awaited MMORPG.
But instead of letting us longing/hoping for this game these carebears have to piss on our hopes.
They just dont piss on Darkfall. They piss on all of us that is looking forward to play this game. Themself they have so many games that fit their taste so i cant really understand why these characters have to troll Darkfall? Isnt variety something good? If Darkfall comes out well, who knows- even the OP and the other Darkfall trolls might like it? And if not then just dont play it. The streamlining of a whole game genre is not something i cheerish. More variety in MMORPG:s. And Darkfall developers is a brave team with alot of new thinking in a game genre that havent developed since UO went trammel.
From where comes the carebear hatred of a game that isnt even in beta yet?
Man you are coming from way out in left field here...
It has nothing to do with these people being carebears, which you have no idea in the first place if they are. Pretty much it is just the use of good common sense. I'm not saying DF will never come out, but there is slim to little evidence that this title has come very far. You can say all you want, but you can't deny that.
Finally If Darkfall would actually be released. It would be so under any expectations the community built for it over the years ...that the same community will BURN it in mater of days.
The end
I missed this little gem. I always like the assumptions you people made. (which of course don't get remarked by polization or who ever that accuse the fanbois for assuming things). Or aren't they assumptions?
So, have you played the game? If yes, please do tell us. Or why do you worry about this game then and the people that are following it, if, as you say, its community itself will burn it after release? Why do you bother coming here and telling us that if it doesn't deliver it won't succeed? Or do you just like to state the obvious?
OP/28days and the other Darkfall trolls is just some selfish egoscentric carebear players that wanna piss on the only coming none WOW clone with skilled PvP, full loot and total freedom. The ingame features also make us hope for some awsome ingame heat and longlasting fun. Its the hardcore PvPers long awaited MMORPG.
But instead of letting us longing/hoping for this game these carebears have to piss on our hopes.
They just dont piss on Darkfall. They piss on all of us that is looking forward to play this game. Themself they have so many games that fit their taste so i cant really understand why these characters have to troll Darkfall? Isnt variety something good? If Darkfall comes out well, who knows- even the OP and the other Darkfall trolls might like it? And if not then just dont play it. The streamlining of a whole game genre is not something i cheerish. More variety in MMORPG:s. And Darkfall developers is a brave team with alot of new thinking in a game genre that havent developed since UO went trammel.
From where comes the carebear hatred of a game that isnt even in beta yet?
Man you are coming from way out in left field here...
It has nothing to do with these people being carebears, which you have no idea in the first place if they are. Pretty much it is just the use of good common sense. I'm not saying DF will never come out, but there is slim to little evidence that this title has come very far. You can say all you want, but you can't deny that.
I dont agree. Darkfall is the only MMORPG game worth mentioning as a skillfull PvP one. Where it actually will take some skill to succeed and where there is some risk vs reward in the game. If you die cause you perform bad you loose your belongings as it should be. Rest of the MMORPG games arround or under development is as i see it carebear games. So i think it have all to do with there carebear playstyle and/or selfish/egocentric real life personalities. Why else open threads like these? They troll the only good MMORPG game under development.
I dont count carebear PvP as PvP.
I followed Darkfall since about day 1 so i know about all the wrongly announced beta dates, how they more or less remade the game at 2003 (started from scratch), the small development team compared to the big dragons and the priorities they made concerning either making a hell of a good game and put the effort there then making a bad game and concentrate on boosting that bad game on the internet. Personally i think its better a small company as adventurine concentrate on making a good game with little bugs during betatime.
If the game is as good as i think it is it will sell with very little publishing. It will go from player to player as a wildfire. Darkfall is as i see it a just about finished game today where the developers either choose to selfpublish after checking on other options. Selfpublish would be to prefer since it will keep the carebears away from ruining another hardcore PvP-game. Thats the information you can read up on the Darkfall developers info on the Darkfall board if you like.
Then if you choose to believe them is your choice.
If you're not around to hear a tree fall, then it hasn't even exist eyh? I don't care about the facts, I'm just waiting for the game, like most of us do. I've said it before, I haven't payed anything yet, I haven't lost anything. They don't owe me anything. The only fact I need to know is if I like it after it is released, if it will. All the other points are moot.
What I mean to say is, I don't try to force feed my opinions to anyone, like most of the critics here do, but I won't stand people stating their biased ones too without challenging them.
EDIT: To clarify, I also disagree with spamming these forums for darkfall (which of course was never suggested by the devs as some ppl here make it look like), I find it totally tasteless.
Finally If Darkfall would actually be released. It would be so under any expectations the community built for it over the years ...that the same community will BURN it in mater of days.
The end
I missed this little gem. I always like the assumptions you people made. (which of course don't get remarked by polization or who ever that accuse the fanbois for assuming things). Or aren't they assumptions?
So, have you played the game? If yes, please do tell us. Or why do you worry about this game then and the people that are following it, if, as you say, its community itself will burn it after release? Why do you bother coming here and telling us that if it doesn't deliver it won't succeed? Or do you just like to state the obvious?
OP/28days and the other Darkfall trolls is just some selfish egoscentric carebear players that wanna piss on the only coming none WOW clone with skilled PvP, full loot and total freedom. The ingame features also make us hope for some awsome ingame heat and longlasting fun. Its the hardcore PvPers long awaited MMORPG.
But instead of letting us longing/hoping for this game these carebears have to piss on our hopes.
They just dont piss on Darkfall. They piss on all of us that is looking forward to play this game. Themself they have so many games that fit their taste so i cant really understand why these characters have to troll Darkfall? Isnt variety something good? If Darkfall comes out well, who knows- even the OP and the other Darkfall trolls might like it? And if not then just dont play it. The streamlining of a whole game genre is not something i cheerish. More variety in MMORPG:s. And Darkfall developers is a brave team with alot of new thinking in a game genre that havent developed since UO went trammel.
From where comes the carebear hatred of a game that isnt even in beta yet?
Man you are coming from way out in left field here...
It has nothing to do with these people being carebears, which you have no idea in the first place if they are. Pretty much it is just the use of good common sense. I'm not saying DF will never come out, but there is slim to little evidence that this title has come very far. You can say all you want, but you can't deny that.
I dont agree. Darkfall is the only MMORPG game worth mentioning as a skillfull PvP one. Where it actually will take some skill to succeed and where there is some risk vs reward in the game. If you die cause you perform bad you loose your belongings as it should be. Rest of the MMORPG games arround or under development is as i see it carebear games. So i think it have all to do with there carebear playstyle and/or selfish/egocentric real life personalities. Why else open threads like these? They troll the only good MMORPG game under development.
I dont count carebear PvP as PvP.
I followed Darkfall since about day 1 so i know about all the wrongly announced beta dates, how they more or less remade the game at 2003 (started from scratch), the small development team compared to the big dragons and the priorities they made concerning either making a hell of a good game and put the effort there then making a bad game and concentrate on boosting that bad game on the internet. Personally i think its better a small company as adventurine concentrate on making a good game with little bugs during betatime.
If the game is as good as i think it is it will sell with very little publishing. It will go from player to player as a wildfire. Darkfall is as i see it a just about finished game today where the developers either choose to selfpublish after checking on other options. Selfpublish would be to prefer since it will keep the carebears away from ruining another hardcore PvP-game. Thats the information you can read up on the Darkfall developers info on the Darkfall board if you like.
Then if you choose to believe them is your choice.
You may want this game to come out, and it may. But what does this have to do with people being carebears if they just state they think it is vapor, pretty much?
SB was full loot, btw. Actually at the time it was pretty good combat too. UO back in the day had some kind of looting, don't know if it was full because I didn't play til after Trammel(started in EQ, later tried UO).
If SB would have been more stable and used WASD, it would be pretty much what you want.
Finally If Darkfall would actually be released. It would be so under any expectations the community built for it over the years ...that the same community will BURN it in mater of days.
The end
I missed this little gem. I always like the assumptions you people made. (which of course don't get remarked by polization or who ever that accuse the fanbois for assuming things). Or aren't they assumptions?
So, have you played the game? If yes, please do tell us. Or why do you worry about this game then and the people that are following it, if, as you say, its community itself will burn it after release? Why do you bother coming here and telling us that if it doesn't deliver it won't succeed? Or do you just like to state the obvious?
OP/28days and the other Darkfall trolls is just some selfish egoscentric carebear players that wanna piss on the only coming none WOW clone with skilled PvP, full loot and total freedom. The ingame features also make us hope for some awsome ingame heat and longlasting fun. Its the hardcore PvPers long awaited MMORPG.
But instead of letting us longing/hoping for this game these carebears have to piss on our hopes.
They just dont piss on Darkfall. They piss on all of us that is looking forward to play this game. Themself they have so many games that fit their taste so i cant really understand why these characters have to troll Darkfall? Isnt variety something good? If Darkfall comes out well, who knows- even the OP and the other Darkfall trolls might like it? And if not then just dont play it. The streamlining of a whole game genre is not something i cheerish. More variety in MMORPG:s. And Darkfall developers is a brave team with alot of new thinking in a game genre that havent developed since UO went trammel.
From where comes the carebear hatred of a game that isnt even in beta yet?
Man you are coming from way out in left field here...
It has nothing to do with these people being carebears, which you have no idea in the first place if they are. Pretty much it is just the use of good common sense. I'm not saying DF will never come out, but there is slim to little evidence that this title has come very far. You can say all you want, but you can't deny that.
I dont agree. Darkfall is the only MMORPG game worth mentioning as a skillfull PvP one. Where it actually will take some skill to succeed and where there is some risk vs reward in the game. If you die cause you perform bad you loose your belongings as it should be. Rest of the MMORPG games arround or under development is as i see it carebear games. So i think it have all to do with there carebear playstyle and/or selfish/egocentric real life personalities. Why else open threads like these? They troll the only good MMORPG game under development.
I dont count carebear PvP as PvP.
I followed Darkfall since about day 1 so i know about all the wrongly announced beta dates, how they more or less remade the game at 2003 (started from scratch), the small development team compared to the big dragons and the priorities they made concerning either making a hell of a good game and put the effort there then making a bad game and concentrate on boosting that bad game on the internet. Personally i think its better a small company as adventurine concentrate on making a good game with little bugs during betatime.
If the game is as good as i think it is it will sell with very little publishing. It will go from player to player as a wildfire. Darkfall is as i see it a just about finished game today where the developers either choose to selfpublish after checking on other options. Selfpublish would be to prefer since it will keep the carebears away from ruining another hardcore PvP-game. Thats the information you can read up on the Darkfall developers info on the Darkfall board if you like.
Then if you choose to believe them is your choice.
What the hell does what u call carebear pvp and full looting and w/e else have to do with people following the game for 3+ yrs and seeing no form of progression besides some screenshots and dev promises. Now the game's features are kickass as u pointed out, but the development and implentation of those features taking so long (if it ever releases that is) is what makes people bash the game and call it vaporware. Even if the game started in 2003 as u stated its been 5 yrs in development without any mention of beta, open or close. Seems like vaporware to me
Finally If Darkfall would actually be released. It would be so under any expectations the community built for it over the years ...that the same community will BURN it in mater of days.
The end
I missed this little gem. I always like the assumptions you people made. (which of course don't get remarked by polization or who ever that accuse the fanbois for assuming things). Or aren't they assumptions?
So, have you played the game? If yes, please do tell us. Or why do you worry about this game then and the people that are following it, if, as you say, its community itself will burn it after release? Why do you bother coming here and telling us that if it doesn't deliver it won't succeed? Or do you just like to state the obvious?
OP/28days and the other Darkfall trolls is just some selfish egoscentric carebear players that wanna piss on the only coming none WOW clone with skilled PvP, full loot and total freedom. The ingame features also make us hope for some awsome ingame heat and longlasting fun. Its the hardcore PvPers long awaited MMORPG.
But instead of letting us longing/hoping for this game these carebears have to piss on our hopes.
They just dont piss on Darkfall. They piss on all of us that is looking forward to play this game. Themself they have so many games that fit their taste so i cant really understand why these characters have to troll Darkfall? Isnt variety something good? If Darkfall comes out well, who knows- even the OP and the other Darkfall trolls might like it? And if not then just dont play it. The streamlining of a whole game genre is not something i cheerish. More variety in MMORPG:s. And Darkfall developers is a brave team with alot of new thinking in a game genre that havent developed since UO went trammel.
From where comes the carebear hatred of a game that isnt even in beta yet?
Man you are coming from way out in left field here...
It has nothing to do with these people being carebears, which you have no idea in the first place if they are. Pretty much it is just the use of good common sense. I'm not saying DF will never come out, but there is slim to little evidence that this title has come very far. You can say all you want, but you can't deny that.
I dont agree. Darkfall is the only MMORPG game worth mentioning as a skillfull PvP one. Where it actually will take some skill to succeed and where there is some risk vs reward in the game. If you die cause you perform bad you loose your belongings as it should be. Rest of the MMORPG games arround or under development is as i see it carebear games. So i think it have all to do with there carebear playstyle and/or selfish/egocentric real life personalities. Why else open threads like these? They troll the only good MMORPG game under development.
I dont count carebear PvP as PvP.
I followed Darkfall since about day 1 so i know about all the wrongly announced beta dates, how they more or less remade the game at 2003 (started from scratch), the small development team compared to the big dragons and the priorities they made concerning either making a hell of a good game and put the effort there then making a bad game and concentrate on boosting that bad game on the internet. Personally i think its better a small company as adventurine concentrate on making a good game with little bugs during betatime.
If the game is as good as i think it is it will sell with very little publishing. It will go from player to player as a wildfire. Darkfall is as i see it a just about finished game today where the developers either choose to selfpublish after checking on other options. Selfpublish would be to prefer since it will keep the carebears away from ruining another hardcore PvP-game. Thats the information you can read up on the Darkfall developers info on the Darkfall board if you like.
Then if you choose to believe them is your choice.
What the hell does what u call carebear pvp and full looting and w/e else have to do with people following the game for 3+ yrs and seeing no form of progression besides some screenshots and dev promises. Now the game's features are kickass as u pointed out, but the development and implentation of those features taking so long (if it ever releases that is) is what makes people bash the game and call it vaporware. Even if the game started in 2003 as u stated its been 5 yrs in development without any mention of beta, open or close. Seems like vaporware to me
WOW took 6 years to develop and its a huge company with huge resources. WOW is also a way smaller and easier game to develop then Darkfall is.
Im surprised they have come as far as they have in such a short time.
I agree though that some more videos of the game would have been for the good and might have prevented some of the vaporware trollings. But then again, what do we know of their priorities? Isnt it better to concentrate the labour you have in creating a good game? They dont owe us anything before we start pay for the game.
Aragon100, if only you understood how counterproductive your recent attempts to support Darkfall on these forums are I’m sure you would stop.
It’s ironic that your behavior and attitude does far more to damage Darkfall’s reputation then anything any of the detractors could possibly achieve.
It’s just embarrassing to read your condescending and derogatory post‘s, full of insults, accusations and assumptions, what can you possibly hope to accomplish other then tarnish the Darkfall community’s already notorious reputation even further.
Your fundamental misunderstanding is that you don’t appear to appreciate that just because people are critical of Darkfall and its developers does not mean they don’t want to play a game like Darkfall or that they have not been following it closely for years.
If only you understood how preposterous it is to be so critical of all other MMO’s released or in development when in comparison Darkfall has so little to show for itself and has not even started beta.
And how counter productive to be acting so divisively in a community that is so badly in need of reconciliation.
To clarify, I also disagree with spamming these forums for darkfall (which of course was never suggested by the devs as some ppl here make it look like),
false.
The devs have at least once in the past publically told the fanbase to "spread the word" about Darkfall.
Aragon100, if only you understood how counterproductive your recent attempts to support Darkfall on these forums are I’m sure you would stop. It’s ironic that your behavior and attitude does far more to damage Darkfall’s reputation then anything any of the detractors could possibly achieve. It’s just embarrassing to read your condescending and derogatory post‘s, full of insults, accusations and assumptions, what can you possibly hope to accomplish other then tarnish the Darkfall community’s already notorious reputation even further. Your fundamental misunderstanding is that you don’t appear to appreciate that just because people are critical of Darkfall and its developers does not mean they don’t want to play a game like Darkfall or that they have not been following it closely for years. If only you understood how preposterous it is to be so critical of all other MMO’s released or in development when in comparison Darkfall has so little to show for itself and has not even started beta. And how counter productive to be acting so divisively in a community that is so badly in need of reconciliation.
Why are you so upset by the fact i support Darkfall Developers in making a good MMORPG PvPgame?
Does it hurt when i balance out the Darkfall troll communities exaggarations?
As a Darkfall troll you dont like me, its understandable. And i dont like you which only purpose here on the MMORPG Darkfall board is to piss on the game, telling halflies by judging the developers information in a negative way. Reading btw the lines and making up your own version of the information. And not surpricingly, your version is always a negative one concerning Darkfall.
All i ever seen from your part so far is you pissing on the game. Not one positive reply so far. Youre no supporter of the game Darkfall. Infact youre doing youre best to undermine the game.
Wonder what happened too you too start such a rampage against Darkfall here on MMORPG board? Didnt the Darkfall community like you? Didnt you get the attention you were seeking on the Darkfall board?
Lastly- all MMORPG:s under development and the ones playable of today is carebear ones by different degrees. Not one is a hardcore PvP-game. The whole MMORPG genre is fucked up. Its just about the same game whether its in space or a fantasy one. Darkfall is something else. Its a game that suits me and my brothers- the hardcore PvP community. Were not the biggest community arround but were big enough to fill the empty spots in a game like Darkfall and make it a financial success if it delivers what we all hope it will.
Why are you so upset by the fact i support Darkfall Developers in making a good MMORPG PvPgame? If you are refering to your recent attempt's to "support" Darkfall on this website then no i did not get upset about it , but i did find it midly amusing. Does it hurt when i balance out the Darkfall troll communities exaggarations? No, but i do feel a litle bit embarrassed for you when you attempt this "balancing". As a Darkfall troll you dont like me, its understandable. Steady on, i dont even know you let alone dislike you. And i dont like you which only purpose here on the MMORPG Darkfall board is to piss on the game, Maybe you should try not taking things so personaly, and maybe you could attempt to appreciate others peoples point of view instead of dismising them. telling halflies by judging the developers information in a negative way. You consider all negative interpretations of information relating to Darkfall as half lies, i consider them opinions. Reading btw the lines and making up your own version of the information. Unfortunatly i think we are all guilty of that at some time or another, considering how little there is of it to go around. And not surpricingly, your version is always a negative one concerning Darkfall. Not that surprisingly if one is talking about Darkfall, in my opinion. All i ever seen from your part so far is you pissing on the game. Maybe if you where less judgmental you could appreciate the value in some critical opinions instead of dismising them. Not one positive reply so far. Not much to be positive about so far, in my opinion Youre no supporter of the game Darkfall. Ok, i admit you got me, but i was quite a few years ago. Infact youre doing youre best to undermine the game. I think i could do alot better, but the developers and the official community are doing a much better job then i ever could. Wonder what happened too you too start such a rampage against Darkfall here on MMORPG board? I guess im kinda flattered you consider my presence on this website as a "rampage", but sory to disapoint you i just simply stoped posting on the official forums many years ago due to apathy. Didnt the Darkfall community like you? Not especially, they dont like anyone who is critical. Didnt you get the attention you were seeking on the Darkfall board? I was not on the official boards for attention seeking, i just left quitely when i no longer thought it was constructive to paticipate any longer Lastly- all MMORPG:s under development and the ones playable of today is carebear ones by different degrees. Are you sure?, dont think everyone will agree with you on that one. Not one is a hardcore PvP-game. Again are you sure?, dont think everyone will agree with you on that one. The whole MMORPG genre is fucked up. Speak for yourself, seems lots of people are enjoying themselfs. Its just about the same game whether its in space or a fantasy one. Carefull you might upset some Eve online players, or anyone in general who considers not all MMO's are identical. Darkfall is something else. Yes, but what that something else actually is , is yet to be disclosed. Its a game that suits me and my brothers- the hardcore PvP community. Perhapes you should at least wait before you play beta before you decide if its suits you personaly or anyone else in your "brotherhood" Were not the biggest community arround but were big enough to fill the empty spots in a game like Darkfall and make it a financial success if it delivers what we all hope it will. Exactly, If it delivers what you hope. I'm not big on hope's and If's, not after 7 years.
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No it's just the most logical conclusion made by looking at all the facts....
Well, you don't have all the facts, do you?
I don't need all the facts to come to a logical conclusion about Darkfall. All you need to do is look at it's history and you have all the "facts" you need.
yes you do
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And when we got more women on the team, it was like No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there.
John Smedley, SOE
No it's just the most logical conclusion made by looking at all the facts....
Well, you don't have all the facts, do you? You have no idea what DF will play like at all. In fact you haven't tested the game. You are just a AoC fanboi who fears the competition.
Well, you don't have all the facts,do you? You have no idea what DF will play like at all. In fact you haven't tested the game. You are just Darkfall fanboi who fears the Facts.
That is right, I don't have the facts on DF. I have made NO assumptions on the quality of DF either.I don't fear any facts and have no need for making up new "facts" either.
As for the quality of AoC I could have said alot but that would probably have started a witchhunt for my friends in beta.
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And when we got more women on the team, it was like No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there.
John Smedley, SOE
I missed this little gem. I always like the assumptions you people made. (which of course don't get remarked by polization or who ever that accuse the fanbois for assuming things). Or aren't they assumptions?
So, have you played the game? If yes, please do tell us. Or why do you worry about this game then and the people that are following it, if, as you say, its community itself will burn it after release? Why do you bother coming here and telling us that if it doesn't deliver it won't succeed? Or do you just like to state the obvious?
OP/28days and the other Darkfall trolls is just some selfish egoscentric carebear players that wanna piss on the only coming none WOW clone with skilled PvP, full loot and total freedom. The ingame features also make us hope for some awsome ingame heat and longlasting fun. Its the hardcore PvPers long awaited MMORPG.
But instead of letting us longing/hoping for this game these carebears have to piss on our hopes.
They just dont piss on Darkfall. They piss on all of us that is looking forward to play this game. Themself they have so many games that fit their taste so i cant really understand why these characters have to troll Darkfall? Isnt variety something good? If Darkfall comes out well, who knows- even the OP and the other Darkfall trolls might like it? And if not then just dont play it. The streamlining of a whole game genre is not something i cheerish. More variety in MMORPG:s. And Darkfall developers is a brave team with alot of new thinking in a game genre that havent developed since UO went trammel.
From where comes the carebear hatred of a game that isnt even in beta yet?
Man you are coming from way out in left field here...It has nothing to do with these people being carebears, which you have no idea in the first place if they are. Pretty much it is just the use of good common sense. I'm not saying DF will never come out, but there is slim to little evidence that this title has come very far. You can say all you want, but you can't deny that.
I missed this little gem. I always like the assumptions you people made. (which of course don't get remarked by polization or who ever that accuse the fanbois for assuming things). Or aren't they assumptions?
So, have you played the game? If yes, please do tell us. Or why do you worry about this game then and the people that are following it, if, as you say, its community itself will burn it after release? Why do you bother coming here and telling us that if it doesn't deliver it won't succeed? Or do you just like to state the obvious?
OP/28days and the other Darkfall trolls is just some selfish egoscentric carebear players that wanna piss on the only coming none WOW clone with skilled PvP, full loot and total freedom. The ingame features also make us hope for some awsome ingame heat and longlasting fun. Its the hardcore PvPers long awaited MMORPG.
But instead of letting us longing/hoping for this game these carebears have to piss on our hopes.
They just dont piss on Darkfall. They piss on all of us that is looking forward to play this game. Themself they have so many games that fit their taste so i cant really understand why these characters have to troll Darkfall? Isnt variety something good? If Darkfall comes out well, who knows- even the OP and the other Darkfall trolls might like it? And if not then just dont play it. The streamlining of a whole game genre is not something i cheerish. More variety in MMORPG:s. And Darkfall developers is a brave team with alot of new thinking in a game genre that havent developed since UO went trammel.
From where comes the carebear hatred of a game that isnt even in beta yet?
Man you are coming from way out in left field here...It has nothing to do with these people being carebears, which you have no idea in the first place if they are. Pretty much it is just the use of good common sense. I'm not saying DF will never come out, but there is slim to little evidence that this title has come very far. You can say all you want, but you can't deny that.
I dont agree. Darkfall is the only MMORPG game worth mentioning as a skillfull PvP one. Where it actually will take some skill to succeed and where there is some risk vs reward in the game. If you die cause you perform bad you loose your belongings as it should be. Rest of the MMORPG games arround or under development is as i see it carebear games. So i think it have all to do with there carebear playstyle and/or selfish/egocentric real life personalities. Why else open threads like these? They troll the only good MMORPG game under development.
I dont count carebear PvP as PvP.
I followed Darkfall since about day 1 so i know about all the wrongly announced beta dates, how they more or less remade the game at 2003 (started from scratch), the small development team compared to the big dragons and the priorities they made concerning either making a hell of a good game and put the effort there then making a bad game and concentrate on boosting that bad game on the internet. Personally i think its better a small company as adventurine concentrate on making a good game with little bugs during betatime.
If the game is as good as i think it is it will sell with very little publishing. It will go from player to player as a wildfire. Darkfall is as i see it a just about finished game today where the developers either choose to selfpublish after checking on other options. Selfpublish would be to prefer since it will keep the carebears away from ruining another hardcore PvP-game. Thats the information you can read up on the Darkfall developers info on the Darkfall board if you like.
Then if you choose to believe them is your choice.
If you're not around to hear a tree fall, then it hasn't even exist eyh? I don't care about the facts, I'm just waiting for the game, like most of us do. I've said it before, I haven't payed anything yet, I haven't lost anything. They don't owe me anything. The only fact I need to know is if I like it after it is released, if it will. All the other points are moot.
What I mean to say is, I don't try to force feed my opinions to anyone, like most of the critics here do, but I won't stand people stating their biased ones too without challenging them.
EDIT: To clarify, I also disagree with spamming these forums for darkfall (which of course was never suggested by the devs as some ppl here make it look like), I find it totally tasteless.
I missed this little gem. I always like the assumptions you people made. (which of course don't get remarked by polization or who ever that accuse the fanbois for assuming things). Or aren't they assumptions?
So, have you played the game? If yes, please do tell us. Or why do you worry about this game then and the people that are following it, if, as you say, its community itself will burn it after release? Why do you bother coming here and telling us that if it doesn't deliver it won't succeed? Or do you just like to state the obvious?
OP/28days and the other Darkfall trolls is just some selfish egoscentric carebear players that wanna piss on the only coming none WOW clone with skilled PvP, full loot and total freedom. The ingame features also make us hope for some awsome ingame heat and longlasting fun. Its the hardcore PvPers long awaited MMORPG.
But instead of letting us longing/hoping for this game these carebears have to piss on our hopes.
They just dont piss on Darkfall. They piss on all of us that is looking forward to play this game. Themself they have so many games that fit their taste so i cant really understand why these characters have to troll Darkfall? Isnt variety something good? If Darkfall comes out well, who knows- even the OP and the other Darkfall trolls might like it? And if not then just dont play it. The streamlining of a whole game genre is not something i cheerish. More variety in MMORPG:s. And Darkfall developers is a brave team with alot of new thinking in a game genre that havent developed since UO went trammel.
From where comes the carebear hatred of a game that isnt even in beta yet?
Man you are coming from way out in left field here...It has nothing to do with these people being carebears, which you have no idea in the first place if they are. Pretty much it is just the use of good common sense. I'm not saying DF will never come out, but there is slim to little evidence that this title has come very far. You can say all you want, but you can't deny that.
I dont agree. Darkfall is the only MMORPG game worth mentioning as a skillfull PvP one. Where it actually will take some skill to succeed and where there is some risk vs reward in the game. If you die cause you perform bad you loose your belongings as it should be. Rest of the MMORPG games arround or under development is as i see it carebear games. So i think it have all to do with there carebear playstyle and/or selfish/egocentric real life personalities. Why else open threads like these? They troll the only good MMORPG game under development.
I dont count carebear PvP as PvP.
I followed Darkfall since about day 1 so i know about all the wrongly announced beta dates, how they more or less remade the game at 2003 (started from scratch), the small development team compared to the big dragons and the priorities they made concerning either making a hell of a good game and put the effort there then making a bad game and concentrate on boosting that bad game on the internet. Personally i think its better a small company as adventurine concentrate on making a good game with little bugs during betatime.
If the game is as good as i think it is it will sell with very little publishing. It will go from player to player as a wildfire. Darkfall is as i see it a just about finished game today where the developers either choose to selfpublish after checking on other options. Selfpublish would be to prefer since it will keep the carebears away from ruining another hardcore PvP-game. Thats the information you can read up on the Darkfall developers info on the Darkfall board if you like.
Then if you choose to believe them is your choice.
You may want this game to come out, and it may. But what does this have to do with people being carebears if they just state they think it is vapor, pretty much?SB was full loot, btw. Actually at the time it was pretty good combat too. UO back in the day had some kind of looting, don't know if it was full because I didn't play til after Trammel(started in EQ, later tried UO).
If SB would have been more stable and used WASD, it would be pretty much what you want.
almost but it needs ane ngine update and at least some improvemeants ont he grphics side its way to gloomy ><
also its level based
I missed this little gem. I always like the assumptions you people made. (which of course don't get remarked by polization or who ever that accuse the fanbois for assuming things). Or aren't they assumptions?
So, have you played the game? If yes, please do tell us. Or why do you worry about this game then and the people that are following it, if, as you say, its community itself will burn it after release? Why do you bother coming here and telling us that if it doesn't deliver it won't succeed? Or do you just like to state the obvious?
OP/28days and the other Darkfall trolls is just some selfish egoscentric carebear players that wanna piss on the only coming none WOW clone with skilled PvP, full loot and total freedom. The ingame features also make us hope for some awsome ingame heat and longlasting fun. Its the hardcore PvPers long awaited MMORPG.
But instead of letting us longing/hoping for this game these carebears have to piss on our hopes.
They just dont piss on Darkfall. They piss on all of us that is looking forward to play this game. Themself they have so many games that fit their taste so i cant really understand why these characters have to troll Darkfall? Isnt variety something good? If Darkfall comes out well, who knows- even the OP and the other Darkfall trolls might like it? And if not then just dont play it. The streamlining of a whole game genre is not something i cheerish. More variety in MMORPG:s. And Darkfall developers is a brave team with alot of new thinking in a game genre that havent developed since UO went trammel.
From where comes the carebear hatred of a game that isnt even in beta yet?
Man you are coming from way out in left field here...It has nothing to do with these people being carebears, which you have no idea in the first place if they are. Pretty much it is just the use of good common sense. I'm not saying DF will never come out, but there is slim to little evidence that this title has come very far. You can say all you want, but you can't deny that.
I dont agree. Darkfall is the only MMORPG game worth mentioning as a skillfull PvP one. Where it actually will take some skill to succeed and where there is some risk vs reward in the game. If you die cause you perform bad you loose your belongings as it should be. Rest of the MMORPG games arround or under development is as i see it carebear games. So i think it have all to do with there carebear playstyle and/or selfish/egocentric real life personalities. Why else open threads like these? They troll the only good MMORPG game under development.
I dont count carebear PvP as PvP.
I followed Darkfall since about day 1 so i know about all the wrongly announced beta dates, how they more or less remade the game at 2003 (started from scratch), the small development team compared to the big dragons and the priorities they made concerning either making a hell of a good game and put the effort there then making a bad game and concentrate on boosting that bad game on the internet. Personally i think its better a small company as adventurine concentrate on making a good game with little bugs during betatime.
If the game is as good as i think it is it will sell with very little publishing. It will go from player to player as a wildfire. Darkfall is as i see it a just about finished game today where the developers either choose to selfpublish after checking on other options. Selfpublish would be to prefer since it will keep the carebears away from ruining another hardcore PvP-game. Thats the information you can read up on the Darkfall developers info on the Darkfall board if you like.
Then if you choose to believe them is your choice.
What the hell does what u call carebear pvp and full looting and w/e else have to do with people following the game for 3+ yrs and seeing no form of progression besides some screenshots and dev promises. Now the game's features are kickass as u pointed out, but the development and implentation of those features taking so long (if it ever releases that is) is what makes people bash the game and call it vaporware. Even if the game started in 2003 as u stated its been 5 yrs in development without any mention of beta, open or close. Seems like vaporware to me
I missed this little gem. I always like the assumptions you people made. (which of course don't get remarked by polization or who ever that accuse the fanbois for assuming things). Or aren't they assumptions?
So, have you played the game? If yes, please do tell us. Or why do you worry about this game then and the people that are following it, if, as you say, its community itself will burn it after release? Why do you bother coming here and telling us that if it doesn't deliver it won't succeed? Or do you just like to state the obvious?
OP/28days and the other Darkfall trolls is just some selfish egoscentric carebear players that wanna piss on the only coming none WOW clone with skilled PvP, full loot and total freedom. The ingame features also make us hope for some awsome ingame heat and longlasting fun. Its the hardcore PvPers long awaited MMORPG.
But instead of letting us longing/hoping for this game these carebears have to piss on our hopes.
They just dont piss on Darkfall. They piss on all of us that is looking forward to play this game. Themself they have so many games that fit their taste so i cant really understand why these characters have to troll Darkfall? Isnt variety something good? If Darkfall comes out well, who knows- even the OP and the other Darkfall trolls might like it? And if not then just dont play it. The streamlining of a whole game genre is not something i cheerish. More variety in MMORPG:s. And Darkfall developers is a brave team with alot of new thinking in a game genre that havent developed since UO went trammel.
From where comes the carebear hatred of a game that isnt even in beta yet?
Man you are coming from way out in left field here...It has nothing to do with these people being carebears, which you have no idea in the first place if they are. Pretty much it is just the use of good common sense. I'm not saying DF will never come out, but there is slim to little evidence that this title has come very far. You can say all you want, but you can't deny that.
I dont agree. Darkfall is the only MMORPG game worth mentioning as a skillfull PvP one. Where it actually will take some skill to succeed and where there is some risk vs reward in the game. If you die cause you perform bad you loose your belongings as it should be. Rest of the MMORPG games arround or under development is as i see it carebear games. So i think it have all to do with there carebear playstyle and/or selfish/egocentric real life personalities. Why else open threads like these? They troll the only good MMORPG game under development.
I dont count carebear PvP as PvP.
I followed Darkfall since about day 1 so i know about all the wrongly announced beta dates, how they more or less remade the game at 2003 (started from scratch), the small development team compared to the big dragons and the priorities they made concerning either making a hell of a good game and put the effort there then making a bad game and concentrate on boosting that bad game on the internet. Personally i think its better a small company as adventurine concentrate on making a good game with little bugs during betatime.
If the game is as good as i think it is it will sell with very little publishing. It will go from player to player as a wildfire. Darkfall is as i see it a just about finished game today where the developers either choose to selfpublish after checking on other options. Selfpublish would be to prefer since it will keep the carebears away from ruining another hardcore PvP-game. Thats the information you can read up on the Darkfall developers info on the Darkfall board if you like.
Then if you choose to believe them is your choice.
What the hell does what u call carebear pvp and full looting and w/e else have to do with people following the game for 3+ yrs and seeing no form of progression besides some screenshots and dev promises. Now the game's features are kickass as u pointed out, but the development and implentation of those features taking so long (if it ever releases that is) is what makes people bash the game and call it vaporware. Even if the game started in 2003 as u stated its been 5 yrs in development without any mention of beta, open or close. Seems like vaporware to me
WOW took 6 years to develop and its a huge company with huge resources. WOW is also a way smaller and easier game to develop then Darkfall is.
Im surprised they have come as far as they have in such a short time.
I agree though that some more videos of the game would have been for the good and might have prevented some of the vaporware trollings. But then again, what do we know of their priorities? Isnt it better to concentrate the labour you have in creating a good game? They dont owe us anything before we start pay for the game.
Aragon100, if only you understood how counterproductive your recent attempts to support Darkfall on these forums are I’m sure you would stop.
It’s ironic that your behavior and attitude does far more to damage Darkfall’s reputation then anything any of the detractors could possibly achieve.
It’s just embarrassing to read your condescending and derogatory post‘s, full of insults, accusations and assumptions, what can you possibly hope to accomplish other then tarnish the Darkfall community’s already notorious reputation even further.
Your fundamental misunderstanding is that you don’t appear to appreciate that just because people are critical of Darkfall and its developers does not mean they don’t want to play a game like Darkfall or that they have not been following it closely for years.
If only you understood how preposterous it is to be so critical of all other MMO’s released or in development when in comparison Darkfall has so little to show for itself and has not even started beta.
And how counter productive to be acting so divisively in a community that is so badly in need of reconciliation.
false.
The devs have at least once in the past publically told the fanbase to "spread the word" about Darkfall.
back in 2005 right?
yea that was amistake on there part things come up
Why are you so upset by the fact i support Darkfall Developers in making a good MMORPG PvPgame?
Does it hurt when i balance out the Darkfall troll communities exaggarations?
As a Darkfall troll you dont like me, its understandable. And i dont like you which only purpose here on the MMORPG Darkfall board is to piss on the game, telling halflies by judging the developers information in a negative way. Reading btw the lines and making up your own version of the information. And not surpricingly, your version is always a negative one concerning Darkfall.
All i ever seen from your part so far is you pissing on the game. Not one positive reply so far. Youre no supporter of the game Darkfall. Infact youre doing youre best to undermine the game.
Wonder what happened too you too start such a rampage against Darkfall here on MMORPG board? Didnt the Darkfall community like you? Didnt you get the attention you were seeking on the Darkfall board?
Lastly- all MMORPG:s under development and the ones playable of today is carebear ones by different degrees. Not one is a hardcore PvP-game. The whole MMORPG genre is fucked up. Its just about the same game whether its in space or a fantasy one. Darkfall is something else. Its a game that suits me and my brothers- the hardcore PvP community. Were not the biggest community arround but were big enough to fill the empty spots in a game like Darkfall and make it a financial success if it delivers what we all hope it will.