Damn!! Who cares if the shading looks real or if the dirt on my shield looks right enough with the bullcrap and get the damn game on the shelves already. To hell with polish on the stupid stuff that no one will be paying attention to when we are in real battle for crying out loud. Its great for awards and so forth but your average gamer is not going to even see or notice half of this little shading/lighting crap. Just get the game playable and stop worrying about stuff thats not going to make or break the game. Yeh fantastic it looks good now get on with it and fix the crap not allowing it to ship and worrie about your graphical ego's later.
It's not like you are going to be looking at trees and stumps or dirt for that matter when I'm bashing your head in.
Second edit sry you will see the dirt when I'm done with you so get the dirt right as a lot of people will be looking at that.
And this is why games come out not so "perfect" at release, so it's like your paying to play beta. I am happy they are taking time to polish every aspect. Companies should take a lesson here.
Shaders still look a little weak , but much more impressive then what I seen. The game really needs to fine tune the shaders before they do an open beta, WAR is a doomy gloomy atmosphere, it so far they have reached a kind of a drizzel atmosphere. Doom and gloom , push a little further out from the cartoon shader..
In the case of the link you provided yes thats a toon shader and it also gets rid of gritty detail which WAR has..maybe we're just seeing different things in the picture but they're NOT using a shader like that at all. Infact those sorts of shaders are really expensive on large scale games.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
About the boots Games Workshop did the same in the past with, for example, the red paint on Chaos figurines. They painted their Chaos armies with too much red on it, shields, armor for the mounts (Chaos Steeds)... really too much red, it looked awful imho. I painted all my Chaos army with water-black paint so all the deeper layers would be darker and the rest just dirty metal armor to give a clair/obscure effect - kinda like ancient greek sculptures.
I was hoping Mythic devs wouldn't do that same mistake... oh well like Elvenangel said that's why their's dye options, so in the end it's fine...
Damn!! Who cares if the shading looks real or if the dirt on my shield looks right enough with the bullcrap and get the damn game on the shelves already. To hell with polish on the stupid stuff that no one will be paying attention to when we are in real battle for crying out loud. Its great for awards and so forth but your average gamer is not going to even see or notice half of this little shading/lighting crap. Just get the game playable and stop worrying about stuff thats not going to make or break the game. Yeh fantastic it looks good now get on with it and fix the crap not allowing it to ship and worrie about your graphical ego's later.
It's not like you are going to be looking at trees and stumps or dirt for that matter when I'm bashing your head in.
Second edit sry you will see the dirt when I'm done with you so get the dirt right as a lot of people will be looking at that.
And this is why games come out not so "perfect" at release, so it's like your paying to play beta. I am happy they are taking time to polish every aspect. Companies should take a lesson here.
Yeh fantastic it looks good now get on with it and fix the crap not allowing it to ship and worry about your graphical ego's later.
Lern2read!
If your looking for perfection in graphics you wont get any better then outside in RL! pushing back to"polish"this or that is fine but I expect that "polish" to be on functionality and debugging not doing more graphical work. What you did not understand about my post is that the work needs to be on getting the game out not going back into a design phase.
as for games not coming out so "perfect" at release there has yet to be an MMO that has come out perfect. that does not negate the fact that they where great or terrible games based on game mechanics or functionality. And Not on graphical nuances. If these where creating some serverwide lagfest then great fix it but that does not seem to be the case here.
Based on your stament how the hell is Wow so damn huge everyone seems to hate wow graphics yet look at the result. Do you really think someone is not going to play a game cause the tree doesn't look like it goes into the ground right? Please!!
"The most important thing is to have the design support the players in setting their own goals in both cooperative and competitive interaction with one another." - Ironore -
Nothing wrong with British humour nor these screen shots
Benny Hill says otherwise. But ya good screens all around detail of armor is amazing, and I finally like they're adding in more facial features/hair styles ect..
The one thing I didn't like was the purple boots on the chosen reminds me of WoW when everyone looked like a jigsaw of 20 different puzzles mashed together. Hopefully the armor dyes will help with that.
Bollocks!
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Originally posted by TheFonzV2.0
Originally posted by AmazingAvery
Nothing wrong with British humour nor these screen shots
Benny Hill says otherwise. But ya good screens all around detail of armor is amazing, and I finally like they're adding in more facial features/hair styles ect..
The one thing I didn't like was the purple boots on the chosen reminds me of WoW when everyone looked like a jigsaw of 20 different puzzles mashed together. Hopefully the armor dyes will help with that.
Well I am British except 99% of us have a better sense of humour than P.Barnett. I don't mind saying I enjoyed looking at these screens and seeing the improvement as time goes on.
Great screen shots. Love the creepy/sexy Zealot gal and bad-ass, armored Chosen, but people all around seem to be having issues with the purple boots on the last guy (me included) I actually thought that guy was a warrior priest until people pointed out the Chaos symbol on his shield.
Also I'm willing to bet that artistic polish is not what is keeping WAR off the shelves but issues like engine stability, performance and game balance issues. If Mythic is doing their jobs then they're scheduling all those things in conjunction with the art, letting everyone know how much time they have.
We're not waiting for WAR to have perfect shading on tree stumps, we're waiting for the game to both look AND work the way the Devs want.
Originally posted by Alienovrlord Also I'm willing to bet that artistic polish is not what is keeping WAR off the shelves but issues like engine stability, performance and game balance issues. If Mythic is doing their jobs then they're scheduling all those things in conjunction with the art, letting everyone know how much time they have. We're not waiting for WAR to have perfect shading on tree stumps, we're waiting for the game to both look AND work the way the Devs want.
I hope I'm first to find it & post it but here's links to the full resolution versions of the photos from Warhammer Vault. Brand new from EA Mythic. They're pretty badass with the lighting & shadows on.
They are a step above WoW.. not equal to VG or LOTRO or AOC.. in fact, for everything else that has come out recently, WAR is lacking in graphics. I'm thinking that these screenshots aren't at max settings. I've seen better.
You've not really been keeping up with WAR have you? Its not supposed to be a High End Graphics game its supposed to actually work and support large amounts of players in the same area at once. You can't do that with Vanguard or Lord of the Rings (I was in Stress test and I remember what lots of players in one area was like Lag Fiesta!). As for Age of Conan its age of conan its supposed to look realistic. WAR looks like WAR..dark, grity but exaggerated with some good ol bits of british humor. And people wonder why we get so defensive. We wouldn't get defensive if you didn't look outside of WAR's goals. If they had high end super realistic bloody boob filled stuff in mind thats what they'd work to give us. (btw Vanguard may ahave pretty graphics but it runs like Crap even on fantastically built PC's, kind of a bad example don't you think?)
No. However, to say they look awesome is a bit unrealistic as well. I probably know more about the game than most of the people here, but that isn't the point. No, i never said I expected amazingly awesome graphics where you can see the sweat on the forehead of your character. I am just pointing out that I wouldn't label them as 'great' or 'awesome'. I am allowed to have my own opinion. They are better than WoW's, but not as good as the other games in the past year. I expect mid 2008 graphics, though keeping in mind it is a game based on massive combat situations, it has to be dumbed down a little bit.
Back to my opinion. Those screenshots aren't great. I've seen better WAR ss's. And like I said earlier, I doubt that those are at max settings. You get defensive because you don't read past the first line.
I'll admit that the first and third screenshots are good because the avatars look somewhat realistic and there seems to be a lot of detail. Maybe that is what they were supposed to show. However, I only like the background of the top picture, and think the third is weak and the second one with the Chosen is downright ugly. It is difficult to get a good feel for things when they aren't moving.
I hope I'm first to find it & post it but here's links to the full resolution versions of the photos from Warhammer Vault. Brand new from EA Mythic. They're pretty badass with the lighting & shadows on.
They are a step above WoW.. not equal to VG or LOTRO or AOC.. in fact, for everything else that has come out recently, WAR is lacking in graphics. I'm thinking that these screenshots aren't at max settings. I've seen better.
You've not really been keeping up with WAR have you? Its not supposed to be a High End Graphics game its supposed to actually work and support large amounts of players in the same area at once. You can't do that with Vanguard or Lord of the Rings (I was in Stress test and I remember what lots of players in one area was like Lag Fiesta!). As for Age of Conan its age of conan its supposed to look realistic. WAR looks like WAR..dark, grity but exaggerated with some good ol bits of british humor. And people wonder why we get so defensive. We wouldn't get defensive if you didn't look outside of WAR's goals. If they had high end super realistic bloody boob filled stuff in mind thats what they'd work to give us. (btw Vanguard may ahave pretty graphics but it runs like Crap even on fantastically built PC's, kind of a bad example don't you think?)
No. However, to say they look awesome is a bit unrealistic as well. I probably know more about the game than most of the people here, but that isn't the point. No, i never said I expected amazingly awesome graphics where you can see the sweat on the forehead of your character. I am just pointing out that I wouldn't label them as 'great' or 'awesome'. I am allowed to have my own opinion. They are better than WoW's, but not as good as the other games in the past year. I expect mid 2008 graphics, though keeping in mind it is a game based on massive combat situations, it has to be dumbed down a little bit.
Back to my opinion. Those screenshots aren't great. I've seen better WAR ss's. And like I said earlier, I doubt that those are at max settings. You get defensive because you don't read past the first line.
I've been following this game from the start and I happen to know alot about the game I'd die to say but can't. Wow see I'm just so important and knowledgable too cause I can 'say' stuff.
I personally think the pictures are awsome when compared to other many other released screen shots including the ones on their website that dont have any lighting or shadows in and I'm obviously not alone in my thought.
I never one said omg look super high res FINISHED engine shots, the links are to the HIGH res version of the shots on the website. I personally could care less if the game has better graphics than some of the games that came out in the past year because most of the games in the past year looked great but had shit replayability or were generally crap games because the only worried about WAS graphics. Take into account VAnguard...crap game pretty graphics if you can get it to work. Lord of the Rings? Alright game but more of the same nothing new period, oh and its pretty. Crysis? They should of named it Farcry Rip off but the graphics if you could run it are great.
Opinion is Opinion and we're all entitled to one and thats why they're worth nothing other than personal value. You don't like the pictures fine but don't crap on everyone else's parade and act like your so much more intuned with things going on because your not.
We can agree to disagree and I plan to leave it at that.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
I hope I'm first to find it & post it but here's links to the full resolution versions of the photos from Warhammer Vault. Brand new from EA Mythic. They're pretty badass with the lighting & shadows on.
They are a step above WoW.. not equal to VG or LOTRO or AOC.. in fact, for everything else that has come out recently, WAR is lacking in graphics. I'm thinking that these screenshots aren't at max settings. I've seen better.
You've not really been keeping up with WAR have you? Its not supposed to be a High End Graphics game its supposed to actually work and support large amounts of players in the same area at once. You can't do that with Vanguard or Lord of the Rings (I was in Stress test and I remember what lots of players in one area was like Lag Fiesta!). As for Age of Conan its age of conan its supposed to look realistic. WAR looks like WAR..dark, grity but exaggerated with some good ol bits of british humor. And people wonder why we get so defensive. We wouldn't get defensive if you didn't look outside of WAR's goals. If they had high end super realistic bloody boob filled stuff in mind thats what they'd work to give us. (btw Vanguard may ahave pretty graphics but it runs like Crap even on fantastically built PC's, kind of a bad example don't you think?)
No. However, to say they look awesome is a bit unrealistic as well. I probably know more about the game than most of the people here, but that isn't the point. No, i never said I expected amazingly awesome graphics where you can see the sweat on the forehead of your character. I am just pointing out that I wouldn't label them as 'great' or 'awesome'. I am allowed to have my own opinion. They are better than WoW's, but not as good as the other games in the past year. I expect mid 2008 graphics, though keeping in mind it is a game based on massive combat situations, it has to be dumbed down a little bit.
Back to my opinion. Those screenshots aren't great. I've seen better WAR ss's. And like I said earlier, I doubt that those are at max settings. You get defensive because you don't read past the first line.
I've been following this game from the start and I happen to know alot about the game I'd die to say but can't. Wow see I'm just so important and knowledgable too cause I can 'say' stuff.
I personally think the pictures are awsome when compared to other many other released screen shots including the ones on their website that dont have any lighting or shadows in and I'm obviously not alone in my thought.
I never one said omg look super high res FINISHED engine shots, the links are to the HIGH res version of the shots on the website. I personally could care less if the game has better graphics than some of the games that came out in the past year because most of the games in the past year looked great but had shit replayability or were generally crap games because the only worried about WAS graphics. Take into account VAnguard...crap game pretty graphics if you can get it to work. Lord of the Rings? Alright game but more of the same nothing new period, oh and its pretty. Crysis? They should of named it Farcry Rip off but the graphics if you could run it are great.
Opinion is Opinion and we're all entitled to one and thats why they're worth nothing other than personal value. You don't like the pictures fine but don't crap on everyone else's parade and act like your so much more intuned with things going on because your not.
We can agree to disagree and I plan to leave it at that.
You just proved my point about not reading past the first line.
You are right. I have my opinion. It is what it is. If you don't like it, too bad. I added something on to the bottom of the post that you quoted last, before you responded. I also never posted about what you or anyone else said except for the fact that I disagree that all of those screenshots are amazing. Model detail looks pretty good, background detail looks suspect at best. Just because my opinion differs from yours, doesn't necessarily mean that my opinion is wrong. It's just different.
Nothing wrong with British humour nor these screen shots
Benny Hill says otherwise. But ya good screens all around detail of armor is amazing, and I finally like they're adding in more facial features/hair styles ect..
The one thing I didn't like was the purple boots on the chosen reminds me of WoW when everyone looked like a jigsaw of 20 different puzzles mashed together. Hopefully the armor dyes will help with that.
Well I am British except 99% of us have a better sense of humour than P.Barnett. I don't mind saying I enjoyed looking at these screens and seeing the improvement as time goes on.
Different humor for different people I suppose, you'd be surprised at what some people think is funny and what they just can't stand.
Damn!! Who cares if the shading looks real or if the dirt on my shield looks right enough with the bullcrap and get the damn game on the shelves already. To hell with polish on the stupid stuff that no one will be paying attention to when we are in real battle for crying out loud. Its great for awards and so forth but your average gamer is not going to even see or notice half of this little shading/lighting crap. Just get the game playable and stop worrying about stuff thats not going to make or break the game. Yeh fantastic it looks good now get on with it and fix the crap not allowing it to ship and worrie about your graphical ego's later.
It's not like you are going to be looking at trees and stumps or dirt for that matter when I'm bashing your head in.
Second edit sry you will see the dirt when I'm done with you so get the dirt right as a lot of people will be looking at that.
And this is why games come out not so "perfect" at release, so it's like your paying to play beta. I am happy they are taking time to polish every aspect. Companies should take a lesson here.
Yeh fantastic it looks good now get on with it and fix the crap not allowing it to ship and worry about your graphical ego's later.
Lern2read!
If your looking for perfection in graphics you wont get any better then outside in RL! pushing back to"polish"this or that is fine but I expect that "polish" to be on functionality and debugging not doing more graphical work. What you did not understand about my post is that the work needs to be on getting the game out not going back into a design phase.
as for games not coming out so "perfect" at release there has yet to be an MMO that has come out perfect. that does not negate the fact that they where great or terrible games based on game mechanics or functionality. And Not on graphical nuances. If these where creating some serverwide lagfest then great fix it but that does not seem to be the case here.
Based on your stament how the hell is Wow so damn huge everyone seems to hate wow graphics yet look at the result. Do you really think someone is not going to play a game cause the tree doesn't look like it goes into the ground right? Please!!
Whoa there, calm down now.
First of all, I don't know if I will be playing the game or not, so it really doesn't matter how it looks right now. What I was pointing out is the fact that I am happy a company is taking time to polish EVERYTHING, not just graphics. Besides, this will build more hype for the game, albeit pissing a few people, much like yourself, right off.
Secondly, I do not care about graphics. I like core game play to be polished, and well done. While I agree with you on the "pushing back to "polish" this or that is fine...", I think that they are optimizing the graphics right now, to run on lower systems, as well as look very nice on high end systems. So yes ... I understood completely what you were saying in your post, but maybe you didn't understand what I was saying in mine, mainly "I am happy they are taking time to polish every aspect." To me, it looks like they are trying to optimize EVERY aspect before launch, including graphics. Could just be me, I don't know.
Thirdly, I completely agree with games NEVER coming out perfect. However, my post had "perfect", I am sorry if that didn't get it's meaning across. Perfect was supposed to mean as good as it could get, without going live.
Lastly, I liked WoW's graphics. Ya, they were cartoony and such, but I liked them none the less. In any case, people will play what they want if it plays right, looks don't matter (that much). It's all I was trying to point out was that I like how this game SEEMS to be getting a lot of attention, and not rushing the release. If it's ONLY graphics they are doing, then I agree, they don't need to worry about it right now.
I hope I'm first to find it & post it but here's links to the full resolution versions of the photos from Warhammer Vault. Brand new from EA Mythic. They're pretty badass with the lighting & shadows on.
The first picture was so crappy, 1:st Where is the helmet..?? It doesn't look so hardcore to me.. Then what about da gay boots? Purpel hardened leather boots? WTF?
Yeh but you have to look at the graphics all day so they are kinda important to me as I can't play a bland ugly game with no character, I want to feel attached to my character and love how it looks and love exploring.... can't do that if the graphics are bad.
No YOU JUST HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME ALL DAY.
This is the oddest argument i have every heard. Graphics have to be looked at all day so they need to be good... ok well better then how rthe game plays? Heave forbid if you PLAYED the game instead of stairing at it all day.
Rofl
Oh ps yesterday me and 5 other friends played Start craft for 8 hours UDP VPN'ed .... And ill tell you right now the graphics are awful but the game is still hella fun.
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Screenshots are improving all the time, hopefully they will keep doing so until release.
But looking at these Screenshots, they could all easily come from WoW. Yes some higher poli models, but the whole feel of the SS is very WoWish, a game that came out 3 years ago.
Hopefully they'll keep improving the game's graphics until it releases.
Screenshot 14 Here you have some really nice screenshots, better then the OP showed imo. (dunno if these screenshots were already posted on mmorpg)
Screenshot 10
What is a Imperial Steam Tank doing between Elves?. Now I know for a fact there is about 8-12 steam tanks back in the Impire arcording to true lore of Warhammer. The blueprintes where lost and the Empire never manage to reproduce them. The few tanks there remain are so high value it seem very unlikely to let it travel to it over 1000 miles to Elves homeland to guard a wood????.
Screenshit 14
Well, I am not gonna blow the secret here. But I am almost there that is a Shally’graveyard (The cursed one). as there is no stature of Morr there (lore). But maybe I am wrong.
Am I the only one thats missing shadows and AA? I really hope that these two missing features are going to make the graphics better, because these screenshots are somewhat 2004 quality.
EDIT: actually the first screenshot was ok... except for the awful wow-coloured boots! Wow really manages to make one hate purple and pink!
Well I think that the most screenshots don't have AA, because if they have the graphics really suck , however you see that the screenshots improve, so I think it will be ok when they release the game later this year.
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And this is why games come out not so "perfect" at release, so it's like your paying to play beta. I am happy they are taking time to polish every aspect. Companies should take a lesson here.
They're not anywhere near open beta...
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http://www.talula.demon.co.uk/postprocessing/postprocessing.html
Postprocess , color palettes I lump in as shader.
In the case of the link you provided yes thats a toon shader and it also gets rid of gritty detail which WAR has..maybe we're just seeing different things in the picture but they're NOT using a shader like that at all. Infact those sorts of shaders are really expensive on large scale games.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
Fine looking screens.
About the boots Games Workshop did the same in the past with, for example, the red paint on Chaos figurines. They painted their Chaos armies with too much red on it, shields, armor for the mounts (Chaos Steeds)... really too much red, it looked awful imho. I painted all my Chaos army with water-black paint so all the deeper layers would be darker and the rest just dirty metal armor to give a clair/obscure effect - kinda like ancient greek sculptures.
I was hoping Mythic devs wouldn't do that same mistake... oh well like Elvenangel said that's why their's dye options, so in the end it's fine...
Anyway, thanks Elvenangel !
Cheers!!
And this is why games come out not so "perfect" at release, so it's like your paying to play beta. I am happy they are taking time to polish every aspect. Companies should take a lesson here.
Yeh fantastic it looks good now get on with it and fix the crap not allowing it to ship and worry about your graphical ego's later.Lern2read!
If your looking for perfection in graphics you wont get any better then outside in RL! pushing back to"polish"this or that is fine but I expect that "polish" to be on functionality and debugging not doing more graphical work. What you did not understand about my post is that the work needs to be on getting the game out not going back into a design phase.
as for games not coming out so "perfect" at release there has yet to be an MMO that has come out perfect. that does not negate the fact that they where great or terrible games based on game mechanics or functionality. And Not on graphical nuances. If these where creating some serverwide lagfest then great fix it but that does not seem to be the case here.
Based on your stament how the hell is Wow so damn huge everyone seems to hate wow graphics yet look at the result. Do you really think someone is not going to play a game cause the tree doesn't look like it goes into the ground right? Please!!
"The most important thing is to have the design support the players in setting their own goals in both cooperative and competitive interaction with one another." - Ironore -
Benny Hill says otherwise. But ya good screens all around detail of armor is amazing, and I finally like they're adding in more facial features/hair styles ect..
The one thing I didn't like was the purple boots on the chosen reminds me of WoW when everyone looked like a jigsaw of 20 different puzzles mashed together. Hopefully the armor dyes will help with that.
Bollocks!
Benny Hill says otherwise. But ya good screens all around detail of armor is amazing, and I finally like they're adding in more facial features/hair styles ect..
The one thing I didn't like was the purple boots on the chosen reminds me of WoW when everyone looked like a jigsaw of 20 different puzzles mashed together. Hopefully the armor dyes will help with that.
Well I am British
Great screen shots. Love the creepy/sexy Zealot gal and bad-ass, armored Chosen, but people all around seem to be having issues with the purple boots on the last guy (me included)
I actually thought that guy was a warrior priest until people pointed out the Chaos symbol on his shield.
Also I'm willing to bet that artistic polish is not what is keeping WAR off the shelves but issues like engine stability, performance and game balance issues. If Mythic is doing their jobs then they're scheduling all those things in conjunction with the art, letting everyone know how much time they have.
We're not waiting for WAR to have perfect shading on tree stumps, we're waiting for the game to both look AND work the way the Devs want.
Indeed, I totally agree.
Thumbs up!
They are a step above WoW.. not equal to VG or LOTRO or AOC.. in fact, for everything else that has come out recently, WAR is lacking in graphics. I'm thinking that these screenshots aren't at max settings. I've seen better.
You've not really been keeping up with WAR have you? Its not supposed to be a High End Graphics game its supposed to actually work and support large amounts of players in the same area at once. You can't do that with Vanguard or Lord of the Rings (I was in Stress test and I remember what lots of players in one area was like Lag Fiesta!). As for Age of Conan its age of conan its supposed to look realistic. WAR looks like WAR..dark, grity but exaggerated with some good ol bits of british humor. And people wonder why we get so defensive. We wouldn't get defensive if you didn't look outside of WAR's goals. If they had high end super realistic bloody boob filled stuff in mind thats what they'd work to give us. (btw Vanguard may ahave pretty graphics but it runs like Crap even on fantastically built PC's, kind of a bad example don't you think?)
No. However, to say they look awesome is a bit unrealistic as well. I probably know more about the game than most of the people here, but that isn't the point. No, i never said I expected amazingly awesome graphics where you can see the sweat on the forehead of your character. I am just pointing out that I wouldn't label them as 'great' or 'awesome'. I am allowed to have my own opinion. They are better than WoW's, but not as good as the other games in the past year. I expect mid 2008 graphics, though keeping in mind it is a game based on massive combat situations, it has to be dumbed down a little bit.
Back to my opinion. Those screenshots aren't great. I've seen better WAR ss's. And like I said earlier, I doubt that those are at max settings. You get defensive because you don't read past the first line.
I'll admit that the first and third screenshots are good because the avatars look somewhat realistic and there seems to be a lot of detail. Maybe that is what they were supposed to show. However, I only like the background of the top picture, and think the third is weak and the second one with the Chosen is downright ugly. It is difficult to get a good feel for things when they aren't moving.
They are a step above WoW.. not equal to VG or LOTRO or AOC.. in fact, for everything else that has come out recently, WAR is lacking in graphics. I'm thinking that these screenshots aren't at max settings. I've seen better.
No. However, to say they look awesome is a bit unrealistic as well. I probably know more about the game than most of the people here, but that isn't the point. No, i never said I expected amazingly awesome graphics where you can see the sweat on the forehead of your character. I am just pointing out that I wouldn't label them as 'great' or 'awesome'. I am allowed to have my own opinion. They are better than WoW's, but not as good as the other games in the past year. I expect mid 2008 graphics, though keeping in mind it is a game based on massive combat situations, it has to be dumbed down a little bit.You've not really been keeping up with WAR have you? Its not supposed to be a High End Graphics game its supposed to actually work and support large amounts of players in the same area at once. You can't do that with Vanguard or Lord of the Rings (I was in Stress test and I remember what lots of players in one area was like Lag Fiesta!). As for Age of Conan its age of conan its supposed to look realistic. WAR looks like WAR..dark, grity but exaggerated with some good ol bits of british humor. And people wonder why we get so defensive. We wouldn't get defensive if you didn't look outside of WAR's goals. If they had high end super realistic bloody boob filled stuff in mind thats what they'd work to give us. (btw Vanguard may ahave pretty graphics but it runs like Crap even on fantastically built PC's, kind of a bad example don't you think?)
Back to my opinion. Those screenshots aren't great. I've seen better WAR ss's. And like I said earlier, I doubt that those are at max settings. You get defensive because you don't read past the first line.
I've been following this game from the start and I happen to know alot about the game I'd die to say but can't. Wow see I'm just so important and knowledgable too cause I can 'say' stuff.
I personally think the pictures are awsome when compared to other many other released screen shots including the ones on their website that dont have any lighting or shadows in and I'm obviously not alone in my thought.
I never one said omg look super high res FINISHED engine shots, the links are to the HIGH res version of the shots on the website. I personally could care less if the game has better graphics than some of the games that came out in the past year because most of the games in the past year looked great but had shit replayability or were generally crap games because the only worried about WAS graphics. Take into account VAnguard...crap game pretty graphics if you can get it to work. Lord of the Rings? Alright game but more of the same nothing new period, oh and its pretty. Crysis? They should of named it Farcry Rip off but the graphics if you could run it are great.
Opinion is Opinion and we're all entitled to one and thats why they're worth nothing other than personal value. You don't like the pictures fine but don't crap on everyone else's parade and act like your so much more intuned with things going on because your not.
We can agree to disagree and I plan to leave it at that.
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They are a step above WoW.. not equal to VG or LOTRO or AOC.. in fact, for everything else that has come out recently, WAR is lacking in graphics. I'm thinking that these screenshots aren't at max settings. I've seen better.
No. However, to say they look awesome is a bit unrealistic as well. I probably know more about the game than most of the people here, but that isn't the point. No, i never said I expected amazingly awesome graphics where you can see the sweat on the forehead of your character. I am just pointing out that I wouldn't label them as 'great' or 'awesome'. I am allowed to have my own opinion. They are better than WoW's, but not as good as the other games in the past year. I expect mid 2008 graphics, though keeping in mind it is a game based on massive combat situations, it has to be dumbed down a little bit.You've not really been keeping up with WAR have you? Its not supposed to be a High End Graphics game its supposed to actually work and support large amounts of players in the same area at once. You can't do that with Vanguard or Lord of the Rings (I was in Stress test and I remember what lots of players in one area was like Lag Fiesta!). As for Age of Conan its age of conan its supposed to look realistic. WAR looks like WAR..dark, grity but exaggerated with some good ol bits of british humor. And people wonder why we get so defensive. We wouldn't get defensive if you didn't look outside of WAR's goals. If they had high end super realistic bloody boob filled stuff in mind thats what they'd work to give us. (btw Vanguard may ahave pretty graphics but it runs like Crap even on fantastically built PC's, kind of a bad example don't you think?)
Back to my opinion. Those screenshots aren't great. I've seen better WAR ss's. And like I said earlier, I doubt that those are at max settings. You get defensive because you don't read past the first line.
I've been following this game from the start and I happen to know alot about the game I'd die to say but can't. Wow see I'm just so important and knowledgable too cause I can 'say' stuff.
I personally think the pictures are awsome when compared to other many other released screen shots including the ones on their website that dont have any lighting or shadows in and I'm obviously not alone in my thought.
I never one said omg look super high res FINISHED engine shots, the links are to the HIGH res version of the shots on the website. I personally could care less if the game has better graphics than some of the games that came out in the past year because most of the games in the past year looked great but had shit replayability or were generally crap games because the only worried about WAS graphics. Take into account VAnguard...crap game pretty graphics if you can get it to work. Lord of the Rings? Alright game but more of the same nothing new period, oh and its pretty. Crysis? They should of named it Farcry Rip off but the graphics if you could run it are great.
Opinion is Opinion and we're all entitled to one and thats why they're worth nothing other than personal value. You don't like the pictures fine but don't crap on everyone else's parade and act like your so much more intuned with things going on because your not.
We can agree to disagree and I plan to leave it at that.
You just proved my point about not reading past the first line.You are right. I have my opinion. It is what it is. If you don't like it, too bad. I added something on to the bottom of the post that you quoted last, before you responded. I also never posted about what you or anyone else said except for the fact that I disagree that all of those screenshots are amazing. Model detail looks pretty good, background detail looks suspect at best. Just because my opinion differs from yours, doesn't necessarily mean that my opinion is wrong. It's just different.
Benny Hill says otherwise. But ya good screens all around detail of armor is amazing, and I finally like they're adding in more facial features/hair styles ect..
The one thing I didn't like was the purple boots on the chosen reminds me of WoW when everyone looked like a jigsaw of 20 different puzzles mashed together. Hopefully the armor dyes will help with that.
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Different humor for different people I suppose, you'd be surprised at what some people think is funny and what they just can't stand.
Bollocks!
And this is why games come out not so "perfect" at release, so it's like your paying to play beta. I am happy they are taking time to polish every aspect. Companies should take a lesson here.
Yeh fantastic it looks good now get on with it and fix the crap not allowing it to ship and worry about your graphical ego's later.Lern2read!
If your looking for perfection in graphics you wont get any better then outside in RL! pushing back to"polish"this or that is fine but I expect that "polish" to be on functionality and debugging not doing more graphical work. What you did not understand about my post is that the work needs to be on getting the game out not going back into a design phase.
as for games not coming out so "perfect" at release there has yet to be an MMO that has come out perfect. that does not negate the fact that they where great or terrible games based on game mechanics or functionality. And Not on graphical nuances. If these where creating some serverwide lagfest then great fix it but that does not seem to be the case here.
Based on your stament how the hell is Wow so damn huge everyone seems to hate wow graphics yet look at the result. Do you really think someone is not going to play a game cause the tree doesn't look like it goes into the ground right? Please!!
Whoa there, calm down now.First of all, I don't know if I will be playing the game or not, so it really doesn't matter how it looks right now. What I was pointing out is the fact that I am happy a company is taking time to polish EVERYTHING, not just graphics. Besides, this will build more hype for the game, albeit pissing a few people, much like yourself, right off.
Secondly, I do not care about graphics. I like core game play to be polished, and well done. While I agree with you on the "pushing back to "polish" this or that is fine...", I think that they are optimizing the graphics right now, to run on lower systems, as well as look very nice on high end systems. So yes ... I understood completely what you were saying in your post, but maybe you didn't understand what I was saying in mine, mainly "I am happy they are taking time to polish every aspect." To me, it looks like they are trying to optimize EVERY aspect before launch, including graphics. Could just be me, I don't know.
Thirdly, I completely agree with games NEVER coming out perfect. However, my post had "perfect", I am sorry if that didn't get it's meaning across. Perfect was supposed to mean as good as it could get, without going live.
Lastly, I liked WoW's graphics. Ya, they were cartoony and such, but I liked them none the less. In any case, people will play what they want if it plays right, looks don't matter (that much). It's all I was trying to point out was that I like how this game SEEMS to be getting a lot of attention, and not rushing the release. If it's ONLY graphics they are doing, then I agree, they don't need to worry about it right now.
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_viewer/frame_lead.php?pid=520538&img=2
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_viewer/frame_lead.php?pid=520538&img=1
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_viewer/frame_lead.php?pid=520538&img=3
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_viewer/frame_lead.php?pid=520538&img=4
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The first picture was so crappy, 1:st Where is the helmet..?? It doesn't look so hardcore to me.. Then what about da gay boots? Purpel hardened leather boots? WTF?
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Here you have some really nice screenshots, better then the OP showed imo. (dunno if these screenshots were already posted on mmorpg)
This is the oddest argument i have every heard. Graphics have to be looked at all day so they need to be good... ok well better then how rthe game plays? Heave forbid if you PLAYED the game instead of stairing at it all day.
Rofl
Oh ps yesterday me and 5 other friends played Start craft for 8 hours UDP VPN'ed .... And ill tell you right now the graphics are awful but the game is still hella fun.
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But looking at these Screenshots, they could all easily come from WoW. Yes some higher poli models, but the whole feel of the SS is very WoWish, a game that came out 3 years ago.
Hopefully they'll keep improving the game's graphics until it releases.
What is a Imperial Steam Tank doing between Elves?. Now I know for a fact there is about 8-12 steam tanks back in the Impire arcording to true lore of Warhammer. The blueprintes where lost and the Empire never manage to reproduce them. The few tanks there remain are so high value it seem very unlikely to let it travel to it over 1000 miles to Elves homeland to guard a wood????.
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Well, I am not gonna blow the secret here. But I am almost there that is a Shally’graveyard (The cursed one). as there is no stature of Morr there (lore). But maybe I am wrong.
Am I the only one thats missing shadows and AA? I really hope that these two missing features are going to make the graphics better, because these screenshots are somewhat 2004 quality.
EDIT: actually the first screenshot was ok... except for the awful wow-coloured boots! Wow really manages to make one hate purple and pink!
Hehe thats what armor dye is for get some ugly purple boots? Dye them black!
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Found a few you missed Aczero that are actually new and way better looking (btw anyone who gets the newsletter had already seen those pictures!)
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_viewer/frame_lead.php?pid=520538&img=5
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_viewer/frame_lead.php?pid=520538&img=7
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_viewer/frame_lead.php?pid=520538&img=8
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_viewer/frame_lead.php?pid=520538&img=10
the big ass demon in the last one .. is.. way frigging cool in my opinion.
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those are some nice screenies elvenangel.
to the sarcastic and redundant remarks wait till the game comes out and then judge it.
These screenshots seem to have lighting and AA.
Relatively closer to what will be seen in game.
EDIT: Actually a good 10 of those gamespot screenshots have lighting and AA. Good quality screenies.
Well I think that the most screenshots don't have AA, because if they have the graphics really suck
, however you see that the screenshots improve, so I think it will be ok when they release the game later this year.