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ttomm46ttomm46 Member UncommonPosts: 446

Hi

I tried the game but had trouble putting up with the hitching problems..when my characer was running..tiny hesitations every 20 or so steps..I realize i only have an Nvidia 6800 but folks with the 8000 series seemed to have it worse..Is that gone now? Or is it something everyone has to live with....?

ps..already did all the tons of turbines recommends to eliminate it

 

Tom

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  • LarsaLarsa Member Posts: 990
    Originally posted by ttomm46


    Hi
    I tried the game but had trouble putting up with the hitching problems..when my characer was running..tiny hesitations every 20 or so steps..I realize i only have an Nvidia 6800 but folks with the 8000 series seemed to have it worse..Is that gone now? Or is it something everyone has to live with....?

    Usually means you have a process running in the background that steals CPU cycles from LotRO. For example I have the same when I run the Windows task manager in the background (to monitor CPU and RAM usage) but the hitching goes away when I close the task manager.

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  • NarugNarug Member UncommonPosts: 756

     I had the same system since pre-order time when I stopped playing around 1 or 2 months after release.  I subbed up this month to play again and I still hitch.

    The system I have is no slouch but it's not top of the line either but should be great for DirectX 9 play.  I've followed some of a Maximum PC's guide on Windows XP and some of Blackviper's listing of processes.  I still hitch.

    64X2 4200+/3 GB PC 3200 RAM/300 GB HDD 7200rpm/X1900GT 256MB/X-Fi XtremeGamer/DSL Connection on Homeportal

    They finally fixed crashing in Vista for DirectX9. (Was fixed for me in XP shortly before I left)  Some posters report crashing on DirectX 10 and I think they're working on that.

    Well my family member can play on Vista in DirectX9 so long as they stay I'll keep playing so I can take the hitching instead of crashing.

    AC2 Player RIP Final Death Jan 31st 2017

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  • DonnieBrascoDonnieBrasco Member Posts: 1,757

    No hitching, never had any.

    X2 4200+/2 GB DDR1 RAM/8800GTS 320, some SATA2 hard drive/ X-Fi XtremeG.

    Outside: 40-70, inside: 120+ FPS on max settings (high res textures)

    The config I started playing lotro on:

    A64 3000+ / X850XT / same RAM, same HD  - no hitching outside Bree. High settings at 20-60 FPS

    (I have Vista on my PC as well, but I have found it totally pointless to use, all games are under WinXP. )

    DB

    Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.

  • DonnieBrascoDonnieBrasco Member Posts: 1,757

     

     

    Originally posted by Larsa

    Originally posted by ttomm46


    Hi
    I tried the game but had trouble putting up with the hitching problems..when my characer was running..tiny hesitations every 20 or so steps..I realize i only have an Nvidia 6800 but folks with the 8000 series seemed to have it worse..Is that gone now? Or is it something everyone has to live with....?

    Usually means you have a process running in the background that steals CPU cycles from LotRO. For example I have the same when I run the Windows task manager in the background (to monitor CPU and RAM usage) but the hitching goes away when I close the task manager.



    This mysterious hitching affects a very tiny percentage of LOTRO players, in the last 10 months I have seen 3 people mention it on these boards in total. I am quite certain it is very specific hardware-related, or must be connected to some registry setting issue.

     

    Another option is that it is caused by an issue in the net connection - I remember, many months ago Ihave experienced a weird "effect" in the game: my character was not moving smoothly forward (as usual), but instead it was kind of "warping" ahead in small "jumps" or "slides". It was very bad on the eyes. Thankfully it went away in 20-30 minutes. It has happened maybe 2 or 3 times in total, the last one was about 6 months ago. It was most certainly an ISP issue. Maybe this is the solution to this mystery?

     

    DB

    Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.

  • EvilsamEvilsam Member UncommonPosts: 200

    Only time i've had that happen was if I forgot to turn off AVG and it started a scan.My system is 5 years old

     P4-2.26 1 gig pc3200, ATI 1600pro agp

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  • ElapsedElapsed Member UncommonPosts: 2,329

    It's funny to still see posts about hitching. AC2 had a big problem with hitching. LotRO and DDO use the same engine as AC2. I remember playing DDO and LotRO beta, DDO had bad hitching, LotRO had it too, but not nearly as bad.

    The engine was one of the main reasons I never started playing DDO or LotRO. The engine performance used to be awful (it may be better now, I don't know.) What really irritates me the most though is the fact that I can't walk into buildings. Zoning into buildings sucks. I'm used to playing AC where I can just open a door and walk in.

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  • ttomm46ttomm46 Member UncommonPosts: 446

    thanks all

     

    tom

  • TerranahTerranah Member UncommonPosts: 3,575

    I have been playing the game for quite a while now and never noticed the hitching.

     

    3.6 ghz p4

    3gb ram

    ati x1950 pro

    raptor drive 10k rpm

     

    windows xp pro

     

    As you can see I don't have a super computer.  The game looks and runs beautifully for me.  I'm considering getting a new video card but I'm trying to hold out for AOC atleast, just incase it's a big hit.

  • openedge1openedge1 Member Posts: 2,582

    3 Different computers

    2 Different networks

    3 Different video cards

    Multiple hard drives, motherboards, memory, even OS (Vista, XP)

    Still get hitching...as shown here

    Please note, this is not caused by fraps software, but how it actually looks and plays in game

    So...not any particular setup or OS, drivers, etc...it just exists...and people maybe just do not understand what it is..

    Later

     

  • ttomm46ttomm46 Member UncommonPosts: 446

    also If you look at Gamespots video review it hitches like crazy but they don't mention it!

  • Darth_PeteDarth_Pete Member Posts: 559
    Originally posted by openedge1


    3 Different computers
    2 Different networks
    3 Different video cards
    Multiple hard drives, motherboards, memory, even OS (Vista, XP)
    Still get hitching...as shown here



    Please note, this is not caused by fraps software, but how it actually looks and plays in game
    So...not any particular setup or OS, drivers, etc...it just exists...and people maybe just do not understand what it is..
    Later
     

    I had this same problem after book10 I think.

  • 8hammer88hammer8 Member Posts: 1,812

    I don't have a problem with hitching currently:

    AMD x2 4200

    Nvidia 8600

    3.5 GB RAM (usable only 32 bit OS)

    DX10 w/ Vista Home Premium

    I was having major issues before book 12 with crashes at load screen and an occassional random client kick.  It was happening about 2-3 times in a 3-5hr play session.  However, since book 12 I have not been kicked once which is such a huge relief.  As mentioned in a previous thread, I think they tweaked the engine a little because I am able to opperate at Ultra High everywhere even in town.

    I did tax my system last night in the Moors as there were about 45 players all crammed in one area, so I will probably turn off post-processing next time.

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  • DonnieBrascoDonnieBrasco Member Posts: 1,757

     

    Originally posted by openedge1


    3 Different computers
    2 Different networks
    3 Different video cards
    Multiple hard drives, motherboards, memory, even OS (Vista, XP)
    Still get hitching...as shown here



    Please note, this is not caused by fraps software, but how it actually looks and plays in game
    So...not any particular setup or OS, drivers, etc...it just exists...and people maybe just do not understand what it is..
    Later
     



    You have already mentioned that your hitching was cause by your special mouse...

     

    But anyway - if someone has it on all the configs, it would logically mean that it's an ISP problem.

    As I said, the only hitching I ever experienced was actually ISP related btw. I have also played the game on 4 different ISP's: one in Ireland (cable TV net),  3 in Hungary (2 different ADSL's and one cable network).

    Also - played the game on 4 different PC's: my old PC, my new PC, my bro's PC at my parent's house and on my girlfirend's laptop: NO hitching on any of them.

    So I guess I won 4:3 :))

    DB

    Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.

  • Batak_KillerBatak_Killer Member UncommonPosts: 399

    I have no idea what you people are talking about.

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  • openedge1openedge1 Member Posts: 2,582
    Originally posted by DonnieBrasco


     
    Originally posted by openedge1


    3 Different computers
    2 Different networks
    3 Different video cards
    Multiple hard drives, motherboards, memory, even OS (Vista, XP)
    Still get hitching...as shown here



    Please note, this is not caused by fraps software, but how it actually looks and plays in game
    So...not any particular setup or OS, drivers, etc...it just exists...and people maybe just do not understand what it is..
    Later
     



    You have already mentioned that your hitching was cause by your special mouse...

     The DEV blamed my mouse...I did not, and still would rather not play than unplug a $99 mouse that plays well in every other game

    But anyway - if someone has it on all the configs, it would logically mean that it's an ISP problem.

    Note the statement of 2 different networks (ISP's and network are the same thing)

    As I said, the only hitching I ever experienced was actually ISP related btw. I have also played the game on 4 different ISP's: one in Ireland (cable TV net),  3 in Hungary (2 different ADSL's and one cable network).

    Also - played the game on 4 different PC's: my old PC, my new PC, my bro's PC at my parent's house and on my girlfirend's laptop: NO hitching on any of them.

    Yet, I show definite proof, and you have your word...the difference is visual. The recorded videos are my system, and another users system...and also as stated above Gamespot video's of their time playing shows this...even at one point Turbine had some video's up that showed the hitching.

    Now, I also am aware your on a european server...and I have not played on one of those...maybe that is different...but, I will never know unless I see a successful play session with no hitching on video..I have not.

    So, for now I know the game hitches based on all the evidence.

    Sorry

    So I guess I won 4:3 :))

    Proof wins over conjecture

    DB

     

  • Darth_PeteDarth_Pete Member Posts: 559

    I had hitching with my old graphics card (7900 GT) I have recently bought new card (8800GT) and haven't tried LOTRO with it. It may just be on NVIDIA cards? Possibly driver problem?

  • JonMichaelJonMichael Member Posts: 796

    Originally posted by openedge1

    Originally posted by DonnieBrasco


     
    Originally posted by openedge1


    3 Different computers
    2 Different networks
    3 Different video cards
    Multiple hard drives, motherboards, memory, even OS (Vista, XP)
    Still get hitching...as shown here



    Please note, this is not caused by fraps software, but how it actually looks and plays in game
    So...not any particular setup or OS, drivers, etc...it just exists...and people maybe just do not understand what it is..
    Later
     



    You have already mentioned that your hitching was cause by your special mouse...

     The DEV blamed my mouse...I did not, and still would rather not play than unplug a $99 mouse that plays well in every other game

    But anyway - if someone has it on all the configs, it would logically mean that it's an ISP problem.

    Note the statement of 2 different networks (ISP's and network are the same thing)

    As I said, the only hitching I ever experienced was actually ISP related btw. I have also played the game on 4 different ISP's: one in Ireland (cable TV net),  3 in Hungary (2 different ADSL's and one cable network).

    Also - played the game on 4 different PC's: my old PC, my new PC, my bro's PC at my parent's house and on my girlfirend's laptop: NO hitching on any of them.

    Yet, I show definite proof, and you have your word...the difference is visual. The recorded videos are my system, and another users system...and also as stated above Gamespot video's of their time playing shows this...even at one point Turbine had some video's up that showed the hitching.

    Now, I also am aware your on a european server...and I have not played on one of those...maybe that is different...but, I will never know unless I see a successful play session with no hitching on video..I have not.

    So, for now I know the game hitches based on all the evidence.

    Sorry

    So I guess I won 4:3 :))

    Proof wins over conjecture

    DB

     


    Openedge1,

    Awww.. come on.  I thought maybe you'd boost the believability of your posts, but I guess not.

    Your "proof" is almost a YEAR OLD.  The videos you refer to were posted on YouTube on 04/26/2007, 05/07/2007 and 05/08/2007.  That was within a few weeks of launch.  There was some hitching the first week or two and most users experienced it, including myself.

    Since then, the game has run completely smoothly for me except for a bit of lag in largely populated areas.

    If hitching was such a problem now, you'd be seeing tons of posts of current players who are having that problem... and you don't.

    Of course in every game, some people will experience hitching due to their setup or connection, but it surely is not the widespread problem you infer it to be.

    I certainly don't think anyone here is going to take the time to prove to someone who has a personal vendetta against LOTRO and Turbine, that there is no hitching... that would be a waste of time. :D

    Have a good one!

     

     

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  • DonnieBrascoDonnieBrasco Member Posts: 1,757

    Originally posted by Batak_Killer


    I have no idea what you people are talking about.
    No wonder, only 3 people from these boards have experienced itin the last 6-8 months :))

    Sadly, they have no proof either, but I believe their word. It is their own problem. The client has no hitching issues (at least not on server Snowbourne :)

    DB

    Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.

  • openedge1openedge1 Member Posts: 2,582

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    Openedge1,
     
    Awww.. come on.  I thought maybe you'd boost the believability of your posts, but I guess not.
    Your "proof" is almost a YEAR OLD.  The videos you refer to were posted on YouTube on 04/26/2007, 05/07/2007 and 05/08/2007.  That was within a few weeks of launch.  There was some hitching the first week or two and most users experienced it, including myself.
    Since then, the game has run completely smoothly for me except for a bit of lag in largely populated areas.
    If hitching was such a problem now, you'd be seeing tons of posts of current players who are having that problem... and you don't.
    Of course in every game, some people will experience hitching due to their setup or connection, but it surely is not the widespread problem you infer it to be.
    I certainly don't think anyone here is going to take the time to prove to someone who has a personal vendetta against LOTRO and Turbine, that there is no hitching... that would be a waste of time. :D
    Have a good one!

    So, what I do not understand is why you only believe I am the only one experiencing this?

    Still Hitching

    Stuttering/Hitching

    The Hitching really needs to be fixed

    As to the old video's...even after book 11 (the last time I tried...as I had high hopes one of these patches had some type of fix) I trialed the game, and still had EXACTLY the same problem...but, if you wish, I will load it up again, and record the video. As well, I have the excel statistics for the benchmarks...which shows a good 100FPS running rate, then when the "hitch" happens, it can drop all the way to 20FPS...an 80% loss of frames?...Not very good..

    This was on a T1 and a 6Mb Cable connection, with an 8800GT and a ATI 2900. 2Gigs, 4 Gigs, XP, Vista, several versions of drivers, 2 different hard drive manufacturers and 2 different chipsets.

    As I have said before, I just believe people do not know what it is, and are willing to accept this problem, because as a previous poster stated...they do not know what are we talking about..

    For those of us who DO know..it is a game breaker, as is other features like a nonscalable UI (which pixelates when you size it up), small text for many items that is unreadable on large screens (1920x1200 27"), and many others too many to mention here

    So, for the OP...the hitch still existed as of Book 11 for me, so, maybe trial the game and see if anything has been fixed for you...for me it has not...

    Later

  • DonnieBrascoDonnieBrasco Member Posts: 1,757

    Originally posted by openedge1


     
     
    So, what I do not understand is why you only believe I am the only one experiencing this?
    Still Hitching
    Stuttering/Hitching
    The Hitching really needs to be fixed



    Did you even check those links?

    Link 1 - let me quote from the OP:

    "So i switched to Software sounds for this weekends rift raid... never crashed once...



    it is definately my XFI + hardware sounds that is causing the crash... so it means openAL."

    Link 2: - the OP uses ultra high texture setting on an 248 MB GFX card. Case closed (1 reply)

    Link 3 - the OP is again alone with his hitching issue.

    That makes 4 of you instead of 3 experiencing any hitching that cannot be explained promptly.

    There is still no "general hitching", and you can crusade as much as you want, it will not change the fact that the LOTRO engine and server setup is mostly flawless for the vast majority of the plyers.

    DB

    Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.

  • JonMichaelJonMichael Member Posts: 796

    Originally posted by openedge1


     
    O

    Openedge1,
     
    Awww.. come on.  I thought maybe you'd boost the believability of your posts, but I guess not.
    Your "proof" is almost a YEAR OLD.  The videos you refer to were posted on YouTube on 04/26/2007, 05/07/2007 and 05/08/2007.  That was within a few weeks of launch.  There was some hitching the first week or two and most users experienced it, including myself.
    Since then, the game has run completely smoothly for me except for a bit of lag in largely populated areas.
    If hitching was such a problem now, you'd be seeing tons of posts of current players who are having that problem... and you don't.
    Of course in every game, some people will experience hitching due to their setup or connection, but it surely is not the widespread problem you infer it to be.
    I certainly don't think anyone here is going to take the time to prove to someone who has a personal vendetta against LOTRO and Turbine, that there is no hitching... that would be a waste of time. :D
    Have a good one!

     

    So, what I do not understand is why you only believe I am the only one experiencing this?

    Still Hitching

    Stuttering/Hitching

    The Hitching really needs to be fixed

    As to the old video's...even after book 11 (the last time I tried...as I had high hopes one of these patches had some type of fix) I trialed the game, and still had EXACTLY the same problem...but, if you wish, I will load it up again, and record the video. As well, I have the excel statistics for the benchmarks...which shows a good 100FPS running rate, then when the "hitch" happens, it can drop all the way to 20FPS...an 80% loss of frames?...Not very good..

    This was on a T1 and a 6Mb Cable connection, with an 8800GT and a ATI 2900. 2Gigs, 4 Gigs, XP, Vista, several versions of drivers, 2 different hard drive manufacturers and 2 different chipsets.

    As I have said before, I just believe people do not know what it is, and are willing to accept this problem, because as a previous poster stated...they do not know what are we talking about..

    For those of us who DO know..it is a game breaker, as is other features like a nonscalable UI (which pixelates when you size it up), small text for many items that is unreadable on large screens (1920x1200 27"), and many others too many to mention here

    So, for the OP...the hitch still existed as of Book 11 for me, so, maybe trial the game and see if anything has been fixed for you...for me it has not...

    Later

    Come on, Openedge.

    Reread my post.. especially the part highlighted in RED.

    You're making the hitching problem to be much more than it actually is.  I know... it's something you can exaggerate to make the game look bad, but it's not working.

    If you read on in those posts you mentioned.. most of the community is NOT experiencing the hitching.

    Come on dude... let's not try to stretch the truth or make things out to be bigger problems than they actually are.  We all know you hate Turbine and LOTRO for not making the game *you* wanted.  I'll never understand why you insist on trashing a game that you don't like.  Picking on performance issues with LOTRO when EQ2 still has one of the most unoptimized game engines around after three years is really grabbing at straws.

     

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  • openedge1openedge1 Member Posts: 2,582


    Come on, Openedge.
    Reread my post.. especially the part highlighted in RED.
    You're making the hitching problem to be much more than it actually is.  I know... it's something you can exaggerate to make the game look bad, but it's not working.
    If you read on in those posts you mentioned.. most of the community is NOT experiencing the hitching.
    Come on dude... let's not try to stretch the truth or make things out to be bigger problems than they actually are.  We all know you hate Turbine and LOTRO for not making the game *you* wanted.  I'll never understand why you insist on trashing a game that you don't like.  Picking on performance issues with LOTRO when EQ2 still has one of the most unoptimized game engines around after three years is really grabbing at straws.
     
    Yet...Zero hitching issues in EQ2...still after almost 7 months...

    Yes, the EQ2 engine is not perfect...I never said it was...but, it does run way better on my system than LOTRO ever did. So does Oblivion, The Witcher, and even Vanguard...(yes, it crashes...but, it does not hitch...which says a lot)

    Again, I stated this is an issue I have experienced, and have proof to back it up...as what has been stated here from the LOTRO players is strictly "their word"...with zero proof. And really, my proof is for the OP, and not to appease the LOTRO lovers...

    But, I digress...your word is better than my proof...and I apologize...back to playing a game that is more fun and runs way better...EQ2

    Later

  • JonMichaelJonMichael Member Posts: 796

    Originally posted by openedge1


     
    But, I digress...your word is better than my proof...and I apologize...back to playing a game that is more fun and runs way better...EQ2
    Later

    Hope you enjoy it!

    Thanks and buh-bye :D

     

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    Currently: AION, an MMO Beta under NDA
    Played: WAR, LOTRO, Hellgate: London, CoX, GW, SotNW, DAOC, EQ2, SWG, WoW, AO, Horizons, Second Life, There, TSO
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