Come on, Openedge. Reread my post.. especially the part highlighted in RED. You're making the hitching problem to be much more than it actually is. I know... it's something you can exaggerate to make the game look bad, but it's not working. If you read on in those posts you mentioned.. most of the community is NOT experiencing the hitching. Come on dude... let's not try to stretch the truth or make things out to be bigger problems than they actually are. We all know you hate Turbine and LOTRO for not making the game *you* wanted. I'll never understand why you insist on trashing a game that you don't like. Picking on performance issues with LOTRO when EQ2 still has one of the most unoptimized game engines around after three years is really grabbing at straws.
Yet...Zero hitching issues in EQ2...still after almost 7 months...
Yes, the EQ2 engine is not perfect...I never said it was...but, it does run way better on my system than LOTRO ever did. So does Oblivion, The Witcher, and even Vanguard...(yes, it crashes...but, it does not hitch...which says a lot)
Again, I stated this is an issue I have experienced, and have proof to back it up...as what has been stated here from the LOTRO players is strictly "their word"...with zero proof. And really, my proof is for the OP, and not to appease the LOTRO lovers...
But, I digress...your word is better than my proof...and I apologize...back to playing a game that is more fun and runs way better...EQ2
Later
Wait...so your precious EQ2's engine is not perfect, yet you expect LOTRO's to be? There are no perfect engines out there maximized for ever person's personal computer. So what is your overall point, because it does not run optimal on your computer that makes it inferior in some way. Yet it running perfectly on max settings on mine does not make a difference?
Also, you think it says something good for a game that it crashes rather than just slow for a second in the FPS department? WTF? I have never seen anyone state crashing as a positive in comparison to anything. That is like saying "This car is good, yeah it does stall on me in the middle of the road for no reason, but it rides smooth...which says a lot." To continue with my analogy here, I would rather feel an occasional bump in the perverbial road than have my vehicle stall and have to restart.
"It is easier to be cruel than wise. The road to wisdom is long and difficult... so most people just turn out to be assholes" Feng (Christopher Walken)
It is a common phase in a child's development, when he/she has the deepest belief, that however he/she experiences the outside world, that is exactly the same for everyone else. When they grow up, they learn that people experience the same things differently. Also, their own "truth" might not be true for others. Before this happens, though, they will try and force to convince everyone of "their" own truth, by using their own "proofs" - which, of course only prove an aspect of perception from their OWN point of view and from nobody else's....
I cannot stop smiling when someone brings up "ultimate proof"s to prove their childish claims, and they even fail to realize, that it only proves their "general truth" in their very own world, and not in general at all.
A video recorded and put up on youtube proves only one thing: that game was hitching on THAT computer, and that computer only ... I never thought it is that hard to comprehend.
Welcome to the real world
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
Played through the beta to current times on an Intel 2.4 Ghz with 2 Gig RAM on a 5400 rpm HD with AV software running at all times. Video card was an nVidia 5900 with 128 meg until recently when I upgraded to a 7300 with 256 meg. Video settings are at medium overall. No hitching with either card so far.
After checking the video links, there are lots of possible reasons for the behavior seen, many not game related.
While viewing the video links, I also viewed:
and they do not seem to be showing any hitching problem.
Well I went from a nividea 7950 gt card no hitching to a 8800 gt oc card I get a better frame rate in general and can max graphic and yes I know have a small amount of hitching. So those that have gone on and on about there is no hitching sorry but there is for me now. Not game breaking but surely annoying.
Played through the beta to current times on an Intel 2.4 Ghz with 2 Gig RAM on a 5400 rpm HD with AV software running at all times. Video card was an nVidia 5900 with 128 meg until recently when I upgraded to a 7300 with 256 meg. Video settings are at medium overall. No hitching with either card so far. After checking the video links, there are lots of possible reasons for the behavior seen, many not game related. While viewing the video links, I also viewed:
and they do not seem to be showing any hitching problem.
These example videos goes to show someone not knowing what hitching is...
Yes...this is the best I have seen the game run, but they also exhibit "hitching" even though the author states otherwise...
Also, for the author of those videos to get that game to run that way he had
4 gigs ram, SLI and 10k raptor drives...so, outlay between 1500 to 3000 cash to get "almost" hitch free?
Anyways, In the first video for example at time marker 4 secs and then at 14 secs...hitching,.,,plain as day
So, yes Virginia, there is a hitching problem...
As to your hardware...the game cannot even run fast enough to begin with to even hitch in the first place...it has been noted on mostly higher end hardware....(as another poster stated...he switched to an 8800 card, and now has the hitch...)...so, all indications pointed to the game being developed for the "WoW" computer crowd (low end systems, running low end settings)
As to the statement about the crashes...
I can either crash once or twice in a gameplay session (this is a crash to desktop...which seems to be dwindling as some days I get none now) or a "constant" hitch that has existed since closed beta....so, progress has been made on the "crash" and no progress on the "hitch"
Played through the beta to current times on an Intel 2.4 Ghz with 2 Gig RAM on a 5400 rpm HD with AV software running at all times. Video card was an nVidia 5900 with 128 meg until recently when I upgraded to a 7300 with 256 meg. Video settings are at medium overall. No hitching with either card so far. After checking the video links, there are lots of possible reasons for the behavior seen, many not game related. While viewing the video links, I also viewed:
and they do not seem to be showing any hitching problem.
These example videos goes to show someone not knowing what hitching is...
Yes...this is the best I have seen the game run, but they also exhibit "hitching" even though the author states otherwise...
Also, for the author of those videos to get that game to run that way he had
4 gigs ram, SLI and 10k raptor drives...so, outlay between 1500 to 3000 cash to get "almost" hitch free?
Anyways, In the first video for example at time marker 4 secs and then at 14 secs...hitching,.,,plain as day
So, yes Virginia, there is a hitching problem...
As to your hardware...the game cannot even run fast enough to begin with to even hitch in the first place...it has been noted on mostly higher end hardware....(as another poster stated...he switched to an 8800 card, and now has the hitch...)...so, all indications pointed to the game being developed for the "WoW" computer crowd (low end systems, running low end settings)
As to the statement about the crashes...
I can either crash once or twice in a gameplay session (this is a crash to desktop...which seems to be dwindling as some days I get none now) or a "constant" hitch that has existed since closed beta....so, progress has been made on the "crash" and no progress on the "hitch"
I think I know which I prefer...
At those time markers are no pauses (on my feed), most likely streaming interruptions, not hitching. As to my hardware not being good enough to hitch sounds like sour grapes since my two setups bracket the hardware that another poster who was complaining about hitching stated having, but you did not mention that opinion about that setup.
Well I went from a nividea 7950 gt card no hitching to a 8800 gt oc card I get a better frame rate in general and can max graphic and yes I know have a small amount of hitching. So those that have gone on and on about there is no hitching sorry but there is for me now. Not game breaking but surely annoying.
Check your system thoroughly. I have an 8800 GTS and no hitching at all.
It is *not* the 8800 alone that causes the issue for you guys.
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
I havent been on lotro for a while but I have helped people on it in the past with the hitching issue as I found an option that cut it out for some people when I first started playing.
Go into the troubleshooting section of the ingame options and set max frame rate to about 40 and drop the engine speed down a notch.
Not sure how the rendering engine in the game works but when set to run flat-out on some systems it basically doesnt work correctly and the game judders a LOT.
This has fixed the issue for a lot of players in the past. You dont need that large a PC to run the game on smoothly either with a bit of option tweaking.
Well I went from a nividea 7950 gt card no hitching to a 8800 gt oc card I get a better frame rate in general and can max graphic and yes I know have a small amount of hitching. So those that have gone on and on about there is no hitching sorry but there is for me now. Not game breaking but surely annoying.
What soundcard you have in your PC ?
I have Soundblaster X-Fi.. maybe that causes hitching? I'm too lazy to test it out with old soundcard and don't even have LOTRO installed anymore.
I havent been on lotro for a while but I have helped people on it in the past with the hitching issue as I found an option that cut it out for some people when I first started playing.
Go into the troubleshooting section of the ingame options and set max frame rate to about 40 and drop the engine speed down a notch.
Not sure how the rendering engine in the game works but when set to run flat-out on some systems it basically doesnt work correctly and the game judders a LOT.
This has fixed the issue for a lot of players in the past. You dont need that large a PC to run the game on smoothly either with a bit of option tweaking.
Absolutely true. When the game first came out I too was have stuttering issues until I read somewhere about doing this. I went to the troubleshooting section set my max frame rates to 60 and game engine to medium. Noticed a vast improvement with regards to stuttering. Also note this in no way reduces image quality. So it's a win/win fix.
Will this work for everybody? Probably not, but it has worked for many. Give it a shot...
Yeah, this game does indeed hitch. Hasn't changed a bit since beta. Despite switching from a 6800 to an x1950. I'd try some of the graphics settings mentioned above, but from where I'm sitting, they don't exist.
Yeah, this game does indeed hitch. Hasn't changed a bit since beta. Despite switching from a 6800 to an x1950. I'd try some of the graphics settings mentioned above, but from where I'm sitting, they don't exist.
The framerate setting is under Options/Troubleshoot.
As far as hitching goes, it doesn't do it on my 8800 GTS, but it will do it on the same PC if I switch out the video card with a 7950 GT.
Well I went from a nividea 7950 gt card no hitching to a 8800 gt oc card I get a better frame rate in general and can max graphic and yes I know have a small amount of hitching. So those that have gone on and on about there is no hitching sorry but there is for me now. Not game breaking but surely annoying.
What soundcard you have in your PC ?
I have Soundblaster X-Fi.. maybe that causes hitching? I'm too lazy to test it out with old soundcard and don't even have LOTRO installed anymore.
X-fi can only cause issues under Vista (due to OpenAL - has issues with many other games too).
With XP, the X-Fi works perfectly (mine at least does....)
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
Well I went from a nividea 7950 gt card no hitching to a 8800 gt oc card I get a better frame rate in general and can max graphic and yes I know have a small amount of hitching. So those that have gone on and on about there is no hitching sorry but there is for me now. Not game breaking but surely annoying.
What soundcard you have in your PC ?
I have Soundblaster X-Fi.. maybe that causes hitching? I'm too lazy to test it out with old soundcard and don't even have LOTRO installed anymore.
X-fi can only cause issues under Vista (due to OpenAL - has issues with many other games too).
With XP, the X-Fi works perfectly (mine at least does....)
DB
Thank you for clarifying that...as the X-Fi can be an issue under any OS.
Myself, I have tried a built in sound card and Bluegears Enspirer (using a Cmedia chip) to no avail (besides my X-Fi)
Also, ATI, Nvidia...it did not change the hitching
The lowering the framerates...does just that. If you go and change the framerate to 40...your going to run at 40 frames. Why anyone would want to do this is beyond me..
Vsync on or Off..Triple Buffer...you name it...still hitched...for various systems on various networks...
Still would like to see proof of a non-hitching LOTRO gameplay session though..I do not believe any exists
Yeah this is a year old, provided the links still work in the thread, but it does show users hitching in the same spot. You can make up your mind in the end though folks.
Firstly, we looked at the videos (thanks for those!) and we have identified the hitch which you guys seem to be primarily referring to. This issue seems to have to do with when your client is switching its connection between different server machines which host different parts of the game world. A bug has been filed and our engineers are investigating what we can do to make it better. We do know that there is no “easy fix” though, so I can’t promise a timeline for resolution.
-Fernando.
Director of Game Technology @ Turbine
While I respectfully disagree it may be a small number of users, as a Turbine poster came in that thread to address the topic, the principal should remain the same. You shouldn't give up on something just because majority takes all. Some things should be addressed.
P.S. I've subbed the game and am playing it again. Think I've some validity to debate. Just in case someone tries that route with me.
It is a common phase in a child's development, when he/she has the deepest belief, that however he/she experiences the outside world, that is exactly the same for everyone else. When they grow up, they learn that people experience the same things differently. Also, their own "truth" might not be true for others. Before this happens, though, they will try and force to convince everyone of "their" own truth, by using their own "proofs" - which, of course only prove an aspect of perception from their OWN point of view and from nobody else's.... I cannot stop smiling when someone brings up "ultimate proof"s to prove their childish claims, and they even fail to realize, that it only proves their "general truth" in their very own world, and not in general at all. A video recorded and put up on youtube proves only one thing: that game was hitching on THAT computer, and that computer only ... I never thought it is that hard to comprehend. Welcome to the real world DB
LOL@ Welcome to the Real World!
I have 2 computers here.. Radeon 9800 pro and 2900XT and both are hitching badly. Don't have problems with other games ofcourse. I have an 8mbit connection and I can get a steady download speeds of 700+ KB/s any time I want. So yeah what more... both XP and Vista I experience hitching.
I recommend nobody who experiences hitching to upgrade their PC Hardware for this game. I'm going to see if my laptop with a Geforce go 7300 also has hitching.
It is a common phase in a child's development, when he/she has the deepest belief, that however he/she experiences the outside world, that is exactly the same for everyone else. When they grow up, they learn that people experience the same things differently. Also, their own "truth" might not be true for others. Before this happens, though, they will try and force to convince everyone of "their" own truth, by using their own "proofs" - which, of course only prove an aspect of perception from their OWN point of view and from nobody else's.... I cannot stop smiling when someone brings up "ultimate proof"s to prove their childish claims, and they even fail to realize, that it only proves their "general truth" in their very own world, and not in general at all. A video recorded and put up on youtube proves only one thing: that game was hitching on THAT computer, and that computer only ... I never thought it is that hard to comprehend. Welcome to the real world DB
LOL@ Welcome to the Real World!
I have 2 computers here.. Radeon 9800 pro and 2900XT and both are hitching badly. Don't have problems with other games ofcourse. I have an 8mbit connection and I can get a steady download speeds of 700+ KB/s any time I want. So yeah what more... both XP and Vista I experience hitching.
I recommend nobody who experiences hitching to upgrade their PC Hardware for this game. I'm going to see if my laptop with a Geforce go 7300 also has hitching.
Be back soon!
I came back and trialed the game for Book 12 a little over two weeks ago. I played it on 3 different systems and 2 different ISP's (including one a T3 connection)...and all had the same results. The hitching still exists.
The thread that is mentioned up above was created by quite a few of us on the LOTRO forums (myself included) almost a year ago. They have yet to fix it. And it is not just "server" changes as you move from one zone to another (I understand "chinking"...thanks Vanguard). It can happen anywhere for any given reason in LOTRO.
The systems involved were an AMD 5600, 8800GTS 640 and 2 gigs...A Intel E6600 OC'd to 3Ghz, with 3 gigs and 8800GT and X-Fi and finally an E6850, ATI 3870, 4 gigs and a Bluegears Inspirer HD sound card.
A cable 6Mb and T3 were tested to eliminate ISP issues, various hard drives and network cards (both internal and add-ons pci) all with the same results.
It is sad that even after all this time, people are willing to play this game in this fashion...I prefer a little smoother gameplay myself.
That stinks for you, I have no hitching on Ultra High dx10 settings Can post a screen shot of you standing beside all these rigs, that way you can be credible, without the images you are not . What Power supply and ram , ram bus speed as well ? Speed of the L2 cache ? Video drivers , sounds drivers,all the basic info ..
Certainly....
I will make sure to get those pictures for you tonight...and of the hardware as well...
Better yet...how about some dxdiag reports...that is the better proof...as that is what a standard dev would ask for...
All systems have 600+ watt SLI approved power supplies. Multiple 12V rails over spec. Ram is all DDR2, two systems using 800Mhz and 1 system 667. Speed of L2 cache? Please tell me your kidding with that question...this is standard CPU speeds, and makes no difference "how fast my L2 is"...lol
All drivers are all latest WHQL, and sound drivers latest release (which will show in the dxdiags)
Of course, all you have to do is show me video of you NOT hitching for 3 minutes, and I will gladly post what you need.
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3, v.3264 (2600.xpsp.071130-1427)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: MSI
System Model: MS-7350
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 3072MB RAM
Page File: 514MB used, 2395MB available
Windows Dir: C:WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.3264 32bit Unicode
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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: The file nv4_disp.dll is not digitally signed, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL). You may be able to get a WHQL logo'd driver from the hardware manufacturer.
Sound Tab 1: The file ctaud2k.sys is not digitally signed, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL). You may be able to get a WHQL logo'd driver from the hardware manufacturer.
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Yes, the EQ2 engine is not perfect...I never said it was...but, it does run way better on my system than LOTRO ever did. So does Oblivion, The Witcher, and even Vanguard...(yes, it crashes...but, it does not hitch...which says a lot)
Again, I stated this is an issue I have experienced, and have proof to back it up...as what has been stated here from the LOTRO players is strictly "their word"...with zero proof. And really, my proof is for the OP, and not to appease the LOTRO lovers...
But, I digress...your word is better than my proof...and I apologize...back to playing a game that is more fun and runs way better...EQ2
Later
Wait...so your precious EQ2's engine is not perfect, yet you expect LOTRO's to be? There are no perfect engines out there maximized for ever person's personal computer. So what is your overall point, because it does not run optimal on your computer that makes it inferior in some way. Yet it running perfectly on max settings on mine does not make a difference?
Also, you think it says something good for a game that it crashes rather than just slow for a second in the FPS department? WTF? I have never seen anyone state crashing as a positive in comparison to anything. That is like saying "This car is good, yeah it does stall on me in the middle of the road for no reason, but it rides smooth...which says a lot." To continue with my analogy here, I would rather feel an occasional bump in the perverbial road than have my vehicle stall and have to restart.
"It is easier to be cruel than wise. The road to wisdom is long and difficult... so most people just turn out to be assholes" Feng (Christopher Walken)
It is a common phase in a child's development, when he/she has the deepest belief, that however he/she experiences the outside world, that is exactly the same for everyone else. When they grow up, they learn that people experience the same things differently. Also, their own "truth" might not be true for others. Before this happens, though, they will try and force to convince everyone of "their" own truth, by using their own "proofs" - which, of course only prove an aspect of perception from their OWN point of view and from nobody else's....
I cannot stop smiling when someone brings up "ultimate proof"s to prove their childish claims, and they even fail to realize, that it only proves their "general truth" in their very own world, and not in general at all.
A video recorded and put up on youtube proves only one thing: that game was hitching on THAT computer, and that computer only ... I never thought it is that hard to comprehend.
Welcome to the real world
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
Played through the beta to current times on an Intel 2.4 Ghz with 2 Gig RAM on a 5400 rpm HD with AV software running at all times. Video card was an nVidia 5900 with 128 meg until recently when I upgraded to a 7300 with 256 meg. Video settings are at medium overall. No hitching with either card so far.
After checking the video links, there are lots of possible reasons for the behavior seen, many not game related.
While viewing the video links, I also viewed:
and they do not seem to be showing any hitching problem.
Well I went from a nividea 7950 gt card no hitching to a 8800 gt oc card I get a better frame rate in general and can max graphic and yes I know have a small amount of hitching. So those that have gone on and on about there is no hitching sorry but there is for me now. Not game breaking but surely annoying.
Yes...this is the best I have seen the game run, but they also exhibit "hitching" even though the author states otherwise...
Also, for the author of those videos to get that game to run that way he had
4 gigs ram, SLI and 10k raptor drives...so, outlay between 1500 to 3000 cash to get "almost" hitch free?
Anyways, In the first video for example at time marker 4 secs and then at 14 secs...hitching,.,,plain as day
So, yes Virginia, there is a hitching problem...
As to your hardware...the game cannot even run fast enough to begin with to even hitch in the first place...it has been noted on mostly higher end hardware....(as another poster stated...he switched to an 8800 card, and now has the hitch...)...so, all indications pointed to the game being developed for the "WoW" computer crowd (low end systems, running low end settings)
As to the statement about the crashes...
I can either crash once or twice in a gameplay session (this is a crash to desktop...which seems to be dwindling as some days I get none now) or a "constant" hitch that has existed since closed beta....so, progress has been made on the "crash" and no progress on the "hitch"
I think I know which I prefer...
Yes...this is the best I have seen the game run, but they also exhibit "hitching" even though the author states otherwise...
Also, for the author of those videos to get that game to run that way he had
4 gigs ram, SLI and 10k raptor drives...so, outlay between 1500 to 3000 cash to get "almost" hitch free?
Anyways, In the first video for example at time marker 4 secs and then at 14 secs...hitching,.,,plain as day
So, yes Virginia, there is a hitching problem...
As to your hardware...the game cannot even run fast enough to begin with to even hitch in the first place...it has been noted on mostly higher end hardware....(as another poster stated...he switched to an 8800 card, and now has the hitch...)...so, all indications pointed to the game being developed for the "WoW" computer crowd (low end systems, running low end settings)
As to the statement about the crashes...
I can either crash once or twice in a gameplay session (this is a crash to desktop...which seems to be dwindling as some days I get none now) or a "constant" hitch that has existed since closed beta....so, progress has been made on the "crash" and no progress on the "hitch"
I think I know which I prefer...
At those time markers are no pauses (on my feed), most likely streaming interruptions, not hitching. As to my hardware not being good enough to hitch sounds like sour grapes since my two setups bracket the hardware that another poster who was complaining about hitching stated having, but you did not mention that opinion about that setup.
It is *not* the 8800 alone that causes the issue for you guys.
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
I havent been on lotro for a while but I have helped people on it in the past with the hitching issue as I found an option that cut it out for some people when I first started playing.
Go into the troubleshooting section of the ingame options and set max frame rate to about 40 and drop the engine speed down a notch.
Not sure how the rendering engine in the game works but when set to run flat-out on some systems it basically doesnt work correctly and the game judders a LOT.
This has fixed the issue for a lot of players in the past. You dont need that large a PC to run the game on smoothly either with a bit of option tweaking.
I have Soundblaster X-Fi.. maybe that causes hitching? I'm too lazy to test it out with old soundcard and don't even have LOTRO installed anymore.
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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Will this work for everybody? Probably not, but it has worked for many. Give it a shot...
Yeah, this game does indeed hitch. Hasn't changed a bit since beta. Despite switching from a 6800 to an x1950. I'd try some of the graphics settings mentioned above, but from where I'm sitting, they don't exist.
The framerate setting is under Options/Troubleshoot.
As far as hitching goes, it doesn't do it on my 8800 GTS, but it will do it on the same PC if I switch out the video card with a 7950 GT.
I have Soundblaster X-Fi.. maybe that causes hitching? I'm too lazy to test it out with old soundcard and don't even have LOTRO installed anymore.
X-fi can only cause issues under Vista (due to OpenAL - has issues with many other games too).
With XP, the X-Fi works perfectly (mine at least does....)
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
I have Soundblaster X-Fi.. maybe that causes hitching? I'm too lazy to test it out with old soundcard and don't even have LOTRO installed anymore.
X-fi can only cause issues under Vista (due to OpenAL - has issues with many other games too).
With XP, the X-Fi works perfectly (mine at least does....)
DB
Thank you for clarifying that...as the X-Fi can be an issue under any OS.Myself, I have tried a built in sound card and Bluegears Enspirer (using a Cmedia chip) to no avail (besides my X-Fi)
Also, ATI, Nvidia...it did not change the hitching
The lowering the framerates...does just that. If you go and change the framerate to 40...your going to run at 40 frames. Why anyone would want to do this is beyond me..
Vsync on or Off..Triple Buffer...you name it...still hitched...for various systems on various networks...
Still would like to see proof of a non-hitching LOTRO gameplay session though..I do not believe any exists
Later
I've been playing LOTRO since beta and I have never had any issues with crashing or hitching.
I have 4 other friends that also play the game and none of them have any hitching issues either.
One of my friends is playing on a P4 3.0/2GB/2600XT with medium settings with no problems.
"There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer."
Yeah this is a year old, provided the links still work in the thread, but it does show users hitching in the same spot. You can make up your mind in the end though folks.
http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.php?t=52754&page=16
Fernando's response is there at the same page.
Firstly, we looked at the videos (thanks for those!) and we have identified the hitch which you guys seem to be primarily referring to. This issue seems to have to do with when your client is switching its connection between different server machines which host different parts of the game world. A bug has been filed and our engineers are investigating what we can do to make it better. We do know that there is no “easy fix” though, so I can’t promise a timeline for resolution.
-Fernando.
Director of Game Technology @ Turbine
While I respectfully disagree it may be a small number of users, as a Turbine poster came in that thread to address the topic, the principal should remain the same. You shouldn't give up on something just because majority takes all. Some things should be addressed.
P.S. I've subbed the game and am playing it again. Think I've some validity to debate. Just in case someone tries that route with me.
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LOL@ Welcome to the Real World!
I have 2 computers here.. Radeon 9800 pro and 2900XT and both are hitching badly. Don't have problems with other games ofcourse. I have an 8mbit connection and I can get a steady download speeds of 700+ KB/s any time I want. So yeah what more... both XP and Vista I experience hitching.
I recommend nobody who experiences hitching to upgrade their PC Hardware for this game. I'm going to see if my laptop with a Geforce go 7300 also has hitching.
Be back soon!
LOL@ Welcome to the Real World!
I have 2 computers here.. Radeon 9800 pro and 2900XT and both are hitching badly. Don't have problems with other games ofcourse. I have an 8mbit connection and I can get a steady download speeds of 700+ KB/s any time I want. So yeah what more... both XP and Vista I experience hitching.
I recommend nobody who experiences hitching to upgrade their PC Hardware for this game. I'm going to see if my laptop with a Geforce go 7300 also has hitching.
Be back soon!
I came back and trialed the game for Book 12 a little over two weeks ago. I played it on 3 different systems and 2 different ISP's (including one a T3 connection)...and all had the same results. The hitching still exists.The thread that is mentioned up above was created by quite a few of us on the LOTRO forums (myself included) almost a year ago. They have yet to fix it. And it is not just "server" changes as you move from one zone to another (I understand "chinking"...thanks Vanguard). It can happen anywhere for any given reason in LOTRO.
The systems involved were an AMD 5600, 8800GTS 640 and 2 gigs...A Intel E6600 OC'd to 3Ghz, with 3 gigs and 8800GT and X-Fi and finally an E6850, ATI 3870, 4 gigs and a Bluegears Inspirer HD sound card.
A cable 6Mb and T3 were tested to eliminate ISP issues, various hard drives and network cards (both internal and add-ons pci) all with the same results.
It is sad that even after all this time, people are willing to play this game in this fashion...I prefer a little smoother gameplay myself.
Later
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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I will make sure to get those pictures for you tonight...and of the hardware as well...
Better yet...how about some dxdiag reports...that is the better proof...as that is what a standard dev would ask for...
All systems have 600+ watt SLI approved power supplies. Multiple 12V rails over spec. Ram is all DDR2, two systems using 800Mhz and 1 system 667. Speed of L2 cache? Please tell me your kidding with that question...this is standard CPU speeds, and makes no difference "how fast my L2 is"...lol
All drivers are all latest WHQL, and sound drivers latest release (which will show in the dxdiags)
Of course, all you have to do is show me video of you NOT hitching for 3 minutes, and I will gladly post what you need.
Can you also post your dxdiag as well?
Thanks
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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Current DXDiags.
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System Information
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Time of this report: 3/27/2008, 19:35:40
Machine name: SHANNON-PC
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Ultimate (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.longhorn_rtm.080118-1840)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Acer
System Model: Aspire E380
BIOS: )Phoenix - Award WorkstationBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+ (2 CPUs), ~2.6GHz
Memory: 2046MB RAM
Page File: 1008MB used, 5082MB available
Windows Dir: C:Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 6.00.6001.18000 32bit Unicode
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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Sound Tab 3: No problems found.
Sound Tab 4: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)
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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 8800 GTS
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: EnumPCIVEN_10DE&DEV_0193&SUBSYS_042110DE&REV_A2
Display Memory: 1372 MB
Dedicated Memory: 604 MB
Shared Memory: 767 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 768 (32 bit) (30Hz)
Monitor: Generic Non-PnP Monitor
Driver Name: nvd3dum.dll,nvwgf2um.dll
Driver Version: 7.15.0011.6925 (English)
DDI Version: 10
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 12/11/2007 18:06:00, 5263360 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-42D3-11CF-6368-2A2402C2CA35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0193
SubSys ID: 0x042110DE
Revision ID: 0x00A2
Revision ID: 0x00A2
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Sound Devices
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Description: Speakers (C-Media Oxygen HD Audio Device)
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: PCIVEN_13F6&DEV_8788&SUBSYS_878813F6&REV_00
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: cmudaxp.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0008 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Debug
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
Date and Size: 7/20/2007 13:16:58, 1780352 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: C-Media Electronics Inc.
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0x0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Description: Digital Output (C-Media Oxygen HD Audio Device)
Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: No
Hardware ID: PCIVEN_13F6&DEV_8788&SUBSYS_878813F6&REV_00
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: cmudaxp.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0008 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Debug
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
Date and Size: 7/20/2007 13:16:58, 1780352 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: C-Media Electronics Inc.
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0x0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
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System Information
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Time of this report: 3/27/2008, 19:34:39
Machine name: OPENEDGE-MAIN
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3, v.3264 (2600.xpsp.071130-1427)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: MSI
System Model: MS-7350
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 3072MB RAM
Page File: 514MB used, 2395MB available
Windows Dir: C:WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.3264 32bit Unicode
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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: The file nv4_disp.dll is not digitally signed, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL). You may be able to get a WHQL logo'd driver from the hardware manufacturer.
Sound Tab 1: The file ctaud2k.sys is not digitally signed, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL). You may be able to get a WHQL logo'd driver from the hardware manufacturer.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.
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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)
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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 8800 GT
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: EnumPCIVEN_10DE&DEV_0611&SUBSYS_82611043&REV_A2
Display Memory: 512.0 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1200 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Dell 2407WFP (Digital)
Monitor Max Res: 1920,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0011.6921 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 12/5/2007 01:41:00, 5773568 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: No
WHQL Date Stamp: None
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 12/5/2007 01:41:00, 7435392 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4551-11CF-FA68-6AA203C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0611
SubSys ID: 0x82611043
Revision ID: 0x00A2
Revision ID: 0x00A2
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Sound Devices
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Description: SB X-Fi Audio [EC00]
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: PCIVEN_1102&DEV_0005&SUBSYS_00311102&REV_00
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.1281 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: No
Date and Size: 11/12/2007 21:34:22, 516352 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Creative
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0xF5F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 1, 192000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 128, 128
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 128, 128
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: Yes
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
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System Information
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Time of this report: 3/27/2008, 19:33:34
Machine name: OPENEDGE-ACER
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3, v.3264 (2600.xpsp.071130-1427)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: ECS
System Model: G33T_M
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6850 @ 3.00GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 2816MB RAM
Page File: 349MB used, 4354MB available
Windows Dir: C:WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.3264 32bit Unicode
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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.
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DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)
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Display Devices
---------------
Card name: ATI Radeon HD 3800 Series
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x9501)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: EnumPCIVEN_1002&DEV_9501&SUBSYS_E620174B&REV_00
Display Memory: 512.0 MB
Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6783 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 3/24/2008 22:55:15, 300032 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys
Mini VDD Date: 3/24/2008 23:52:56, 2863616 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-D641-11CF-846E-2AC6A1C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x9501
SubSys ID: 0xE620174B
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
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Sound Devices
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Description: Realtek HD Audio output
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: HDAUDIOFUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0883&SUBSYS_10192630&REV_1000
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: RtkHDAud.sys
Driver Version: 5.10.0000.5294 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
Date and Size: 9/6/2006 16:04:12, 4377600 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0x0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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i just started 3 weeks ago...i play on ultra hi dx9, i dont have vista so i havent tried dx10....but i dont get any hitching what so ever