For Game Play issues, the usual process for getting these kind of bugs fixed (the ones that have a big negative impact on players) is to post them in the Game Play Focus: Bugs and Issues thread.
The Developers then reference this top five and try to resolve them on an ongoing basis as updates and chapters happen. We've got some fixes on the way for a number of these problems.
There are bugs in there that have been there since launch, and, even more serious ones that have been in there since the NGE. Rubberbanding, items poofing when crossing server boundries, specials not going off, massive lag (which is a good trick on almost empty servers), NPCs teleporting and firing through walls and trees, ITV bugs, Mustafar instance problems and on and on and on.
Many of us DO know what the game is currently like, owing to the recent vet trial, AND yes, all those things are still in there. When people mentioned them on the O forums, what do they get from the devs? "That's too HAAAARRRDD. Would take too much time and resources to fix."
The SWG devs have absolutely NO credibility when it comes to bug fixing, and neither does anyone that says they do.
For Game Play issues, the usual process for getting these kind of bugs fixed (the ones that have a big negative impact on players) is to post them in the Game Play Focus: Bugs and Issues thread. The Gameplay Senator (me!) then prioritises them based on player feedback and edits the Game Play: Top 5 Bugs and Issues post in the Feedback Request - Top 5 Bugs and Issues thread accordingly. The Developers then reference this top five and try to resolve them on an ongoing basis as updates and chapters happen. We've got some fixes on the way for a number of these problems.
Well obviously the "usual process" isn't working because some of the bugs listed have been in there since launch. Like I asked in the original post: can you really imagine any other development company allowing such huge bugs to exist in their game for so long? If not then why do you give SOE a pass?
Only a blind-deaf-mute-majorly retarded-brain dead monkey could enjoy SWG at this point.It is a waste of 15 bucks a month, much less for the 3 accounts you would need for the medic buffbot, ent buffbot and pvp character, not to mention the insane grindfest to get every other buff in the game, gear and crap needed to even compete.
the devs who were responsible for NGE were just dumb.The devs responsible for it now are brain dead.You cant have a MMO without a player base, and a buncha puberty induced pimple faced brats arent a player base that I or anyone I know care about re-joining.Games dead..KAPUT HISTORY and wont be making a comeback because as SOE hasnt learned a lesson yet.Dont believe it? try POTBS..aside from bein a pirate game it has all of the same downfalls SWG had in the beginning.
Wanna play a MMO as a serious player? Learn not to waste your money on games written by Sony.At first I didnt like WoW, still not crazy about it, but when you put it up against any SOE title pound for pound bliz is a better company < wich isnt saying much any company is better than SOE even the guys who wrote FWO >.
People dont, and will never again trust SONY, Raph Koster or any of the other screw balls SOE hired to trash SWG.
Only a blind-deaf-mute-majorly retarded-brain dead monkey well, im obviously not that since i can read your post so you're wrong there could enjoy SWG at this point.It is a waste of 15 bucks a month, much less for the 3 accounts you would need for the medic buffbot, ent buffbot and pvp character Well technically you'd only need 2 accounts for that, 1 if you have an elder jedi - and i dont know about you but i prefer to socialise in my MMOs, thats the idea so i prefer to go see an entertainer (you cant buffbot as an ent - impossible) and get buffed by a fellow pvp'er in the field, not to mention the insane grindfest to get every other buff in the game, gear and crap needed to even compete. All you need to compete is a set of armor, not hard to come by, a decent weapon - lots of places to get these - musty etc and possibly an extra stat or two - not terribly hard to get - but you're right, its not as you may like it, you cant just get to 90 and be uber, sorry. the devs who were responsible for NGE were just dumb.The devs responsible for it now are brain dead.You cant have a MMO without a player base, and a buncha puberty induced pimple faced brats arent a player base that I or anyone I know care about re-joining You'd be surprised at the amount of mature players actually .Games dead..KAPUT HISTORY and wont be making a comeback because as SOE hasnt learned a lesson yet.Dont believe it? try POTBS..aside from bein a pirate game it has all of the same downfalls SWG had in the beginning. Wanna play a MMO as a serious player? Learn not to waste your money on games written by Sony.At first I didnt like WoW, still not crazy about it, but when you put it up against any SOE title pound for pound bliz is a better company < wich isnt saying much any company is better than SOE even the guys who wrote FWO >. People dont, and will never again trust SONY, Raph Koster or any of the other screw balls SOE hired to trash SWG.
Lawl at this game. I can't believe people still play it. It's like some guy keeps hitting you in the face with a bat, and you just get up and ask for another.
nethervoid - Est. '97 [UO|EQ|SB|SWG|PS|HZ|EVE|NWN|WoW|VG|DF|AQW|DN|SWTOR|Dofus|SotA|BDO|AO|NW|LA] - Currently Playing EQ1 20k+ subs YouTube Gaming channel
Lawl at this game. I can't believe people still play it. It's like some guy keeps hitting you in the face with a bat, and you just get up and ask for another.
I kinda agree with you. The devs are fixing things... but way too slow. Maybe in 2073 SWG is in playable condition
For Game Play issues, the usual process for getting these kind of bugs fixed (the ones that have a big negative impact on players) is to post them in the Game Play Focus: Bugs and Issues thread. The Gameplay Senator (me!) then prioritises them based on player feedback and edits the Game Play: Top 5 Bugs and Issues post in the Feedback Request - Top 5 Bugs and Issues thread accordingly. The Developers then reference this top five and try to resolve them on an ongoing basis as updates and chapters happen. We've got some fixes on the way for a number of these problems.
Well obviously the "usual process" isn't working because some of the bugs listed have been in there since launch. Like I asked in the original post: can you really imagine any other development company allowing such huge bugs to exist in their game for so long? If not then why do you give SOE a pass?
Only a blind-deaf-mute-majorly retarded-brain dead monkey well, im obviously not that since i can read your post so you're wrong there could enjoy SWG at this point.It is a waste of 15 bucks a month, much less for the 3 accounts you would need for the medic buffbot, ent buffbot and pvp character Well technically you'd only need 2 accounts for that, 1 if you have an elder jedi - and i dont know about you but i prefer to socialise in my MMOs, thats the idea so i prefer to go see an entertainer (you cant buffbot as an ent - impossible) and get buffed by a fellow pvp'er in the field, not to mention the insane grindfest to get every other buff in the game, gear and crap needed to even compete. All you need to compete is a set of armor, not hard to come by, a decent weapon - lots of places to get these - musty etc and possibly an extra stat or two - not terribly hard to get - but you're right, its not as you may like it, you cant just get to 90 and be uber, sorry. the devs who were responsible for NGE were just dumb.The devs responsible for it now are brain dead.You cant have a MMO without a player base, and a buncha puberty induced pimple faced brats arent a player base that I or anyone I know care about re-joining You'd be surprised at the amount of mature players actually .Games dead..KAPUT HISTORY and wont be making a comeback because as SOE hasnt learned a lesson yet.Dont believe it? try POTBS..aside from bein a pirate game it has all of the same downfalls SWG had in the beginning. Wanna play a MMO as a serious player? Learn not to waste your money on games written by Sony.At first I didnt like WoW, still not crazy about it, but when you put it up against any SOE title pound for pound bliz is a better company < wich isnt saying much any company is better than SOE even the guys who wrote FWO >. People dont, and will never again trust SONY, Raph Koster or any of the other screw balls SOE hired to trash SWG.
Well no your wrong there no place in there is there anything about not being able to read.....
For Game Play issues, the usual process for getting these kind of bugs fixed (the ones that have a big negative impact on players) is to post them in the Game Play Focus: Bugs and Issues thread. The Gameplay Senator (me!) then prioritises them based on player feedback and edits the Game Play: Top 5 Bugs and Issues post in the Feedback Request - Top 5 Bugs and Issues thread accordingly. The Developers then reference this top five and try to resolve them on an ongoing basis as updates and chapters happen. We've got some fixes on the way for a number of these problems.
Name em what they fix when they go live and if they do go live.....
Im not talking the little stuff but the biggins........
Try it. Click the link in my sig. All the criticisms we have with the NGE you will experience within 1 hour of playing the free trial.
Hey Salvaje, i like your new 'thing', at least its more original than usual. Be sure to keep it up for a while though, im interested to see how long it take for someone to make a thread, saying they tried the game because of you and also quit, or came to hate it, in one hour. (no making other forum accounts :P) Not that many new players post (or know about) here, but the ones that have, as far as ive been here, have been fairly positive, certainly not /played1hr+quit.
The NGE is it's own worst enemy. Now in my 1 hour claim, I should specify that I mean within 1 hour of leaving Tansarii and setting feet on the ground in the real game. If you proceed as the legacy quest line guides you, in that hour you will:
1. Get sick of the crappy combat UI with manual aim and nothing telling you how to auto aim/fire, and even if you figure out the UI doesn't support it very well at all. The NGE manual mode basically leaves you feeling like you need 3 hands. Firing of specials from the toolbar isn't even in the default UI setup. This is EASILY the weakest and most frustrating single deficiency in the NGE new player experience.
2. See melee mobs attacking you behind obstacles, and even at distances well beyond melee combat range.
3. Have stuff keep you in aggro infinitely, even if you aren't taking damage, and can't even see that mob. You have to wait until that thing randomly despawns or else log out and log back in. This has been a problem from the release of the NGE to now, never fixed.
4. Have stuff shoot you through walls, hills, mountains, rocks, speeders, trees, basically anything, while at the same time "CANNOT SEE TARGET" when you try to fight back even though you aren't obstructed. This has been around since the CU and never fixed.
5. Start to realize that the whole legacy line is nothing more but the same two basic quest tasks over and over and over (ie: go here, kill X number of Y, and go here click X, go there, click Y, etc).
6. Encounter early legacy quests that can't be completed without wandering Tattoine because they increased mob levels around Mos Eisley due to a poorly designed "scavenger hunt" collection.
7. Die because your heal didn't fire but went into cooldown.
8. Start to realize that this is a 5 year old game and there is NO excuse at all for any of the above to still be happening!
And I could list dozens more.
And I've not even touched on the fundamental flaws in the NGE, that being the level based loot treadmill, the uninteresting static classes that don't allow for true character customization, and the fact that Jedi is both obtainable on character creation and sucks.
I've tried many MMO's since the NGE came out. The NGE has easily the worst new player experience of any of them. The noob tutorial in EVE taught me the basics that I needed to know, stuff I've not since had to 'unlearn'. The NGE doesn't prepare you at all for how the game is optimally played. It lures players into thinking they are going to be in space, walking around stations, helping Han Solo out, talking to quest givers that have voice, etc, only to dump them on the ground completely unprepared.
What gave me the idea of linking to the trial in my sig and actually ENCOURAGING everyone to try the NGE out was going into a trial about a week ago as a noob. I'd forgotten just how horrible the default setups are, and how much worse than I think of it someone who DIDNT know, unlike me, how to basically spend hours modding the client and the keymaps/UI to be semi functional would have a terrible experience. Two and a half years later, the NGE still tells you from the start that, "This place is gonna blow".
So, in other words, just as I can continually use SOE's own statements against them, I can use the NGE against the NGE. It just plain sucks. Try it for yourself if you doubt me.
The NGE failed, not just because it pissed off the vets, was morally wrong, it failed because it pisses off almost anyone who even tries it new, even if they didn't know about the TOOW scam, lies, and history that led up to it. It fails on it's own merits because it is a bad design and isn't fun.
Those 8 points are dead on accurate and almost unavoidable within the first few hours of game play on the ground. Also populations are severely lower on all servers, this is obvious if you played before nge.
People dont, and will never again trust SONY, Raph Koster or any of the other screw balls SOE hired to trash SWG.
I would leave Raph off that list...he was responsible for much of what was great about the pre-CU game. He had nothing to do with the NGE.
Very true. The pre cu sandbox was a classic Koster idea that he took to his brand new mmo. Koster wasn't around for the NGE.....hell he wasn't even around for the CU.
People dont, and will never again trust SONY, Raph Koster or any of the other screw balls SOE hired to trash SWG.
I would leave Raph off that list...he was responsible for much of what was great about the pre-CU game. He had nothing to do with the NGE.
Very true. The pre cu sandbox was a classic Koster idea that he took to his brand new mmo. Koster wasn't around for the NGE.....hell he wasn't even around for the CU.
Koster was kicked upstairs and out of the way two months after launch so that infinitely lesser talents (and I use "talent" under advisement) could proceed to muck up his game.
The LA guys could not wait to screw up his vision.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
are you religious, do you believe in an invisible sky pixie the same way you believe in the NGE?
no matter what logic is shown to you, you just refuse to ackowledge the evidence of your own eyes and flat out refute the testimonies of others that do not agree with you.
you have the nerve to call people blind but maybe it's you that is blind and all those that quit playing are the ones seeing clearly.
Do not bother to reply to this i have no wish to debate the point, like with any fundamentalist , debate is impossible, you cannot accept any view point other than your own, despite all the evidence to the contrary.
The last of the SHDWS in Shadow Valley Cantina, Ahazi
SAAY are you religious, do you believe in an invisible sky pixie the same way you believe in the NGE? no matter what logic is shown to you, you just refuse to ackowledge the evidence of your own eyes and flat out refute the testimonies of others that do not agree with you. you have the nerve to call people blind but maybe it's you that is blind and all those that quit playing are the ones seeing clearly.
Do not bother to reply to this i have no wish to debate the point, like with any fundamentalist , debate is impossible, you cannot accept any view point other than your own, despite all the evidence to the contrary.
When have i called anyone blind, show me? I accept other people's views all the time. In this thread ive mostly just corrected and advised/informed. Oh and sorry for the late reply, my original, more lengthy reply was deleted - apparantly i was off topic in defending myself and showing you the truth...
SAAY are you religious, do you believe in an invisible sky pixie the same way you believe in the NGE? no matter what logic is shown to you, you just refuse to ackowledge the evidence of your own eyes and flat out refute the testimonies of others that do not agree with you. you have the nerve to call people blind but maybe it's you that is blind and all those that quit playing are the ones seeing clearly.
Do not bother to reply to this i have no wish to debate the point, like with any fundamentalist , debate is impossible, you cannot accept any view point other than your own, despite all the evidence to the contrary.
When have i called anyone blind, show me? I accept other people's views all the time. In this thread ive mostly just corrected and advised/informed. Oh and sorry for the late reply, my original, more lengthy reply was deleted - apparantly i was off topic in defending myself and showing you the truth...
You ever ask yourself why you spend so much time saying nothing? Just a little insight for you to take away from this train wreck: You come across like a 17 year old dullard who's just looking for an argument. You actually quoted a dictionary definition for god sake! Ignoring the fact that the poster you quoted was dead on in his analogy, anytime you pull a boner like that you look like a kid, a dumb kid.
Good luck, I hope you stop adding noise to the internet sometime in the near future.
I also think it's a bit of a delusion to think that just because it's Star Wars that it should be a game of WoW proportions. Just because someone's a Star Wars fan doesn't mean they're a gamer. Just because you're a Star Wars gamer doesn't mean SWG - in any form - as it breaks away from the traditional action style of most Star Wars games.
Too bad LA and SOE didn't clue into this. If they had maybe they wouldn't have become like the fox that saw it's reflection in the water and became so greedy for what the other fox had that it dropped what it already had and ended up with nothing. Not saying SWG now has "nothing" but it sure has a lot less than what it did.
Funny thing is supposedly the NGE was suppose to make the game appeal to "casual" players but in some ways it became more "hardcore." What is the solution for complaints made on this board about the way the game plays now? "Well if you would read this....or change that....or contact.....then you could get the game to work just fine." Hmmm....first day I played SWG I just hopped on the game and started playing. Sure I may not have known what I was doing short of that annoying green newb droid that wouldn't go away and I didn't know about all the features of the game but I was able to get the game to work and play it without forcing it to work.
And it takes an hour of playing the game to realize how bad it is now? I only lasted a few minutes in combat the last time I tried the game (umm...February?). I did last a little longer as entertainer but even that wouldn't be enough of a draw these days to keep me playing esp. with what inflation has done to the prices of things in that game...and I WAS on Bria.
Originally posted by shirlnt And it takes an hour of playing the game to realize how bad it is now? I only lasted a few minutes in combat the last time I tried the game (umm...February?). I did last a little longer as entertainer but even that wouldn't be enough of a draw these days to keep me playing esp. with what inflation has done to the prices of things in that game...and I WAS on Bria.
We just tell people to play for a while *after* the newbie station so they can see what the real game is like. Tansarii station isn't representative of the game as a whole.
SAAY are you religious, do you believe in an invisible sky pixie the same way you believe in the NGE? no matter what logic is shown to you, you just refuse to ackowledge the evidence of your own eyes and flat out refute the testimonies of others that do not agree with you. you have the nerve to call people blind but maybe it's you that is blind and all those that quit playing are the ones seeing clearly.
Do not bother to reply to this i have no wish to debate the point, like with any fundamentalist , debate is impossible, you cannot accept any view point other than your own, despite all the evidence to the contrary.
When have i called anyone blind, show me? I accept other people's views all the time. In this thread ive mostly just corrected and advised/informed. Oh and sorry for the late reply, my original, more lengthy reply was deleted - apparantly i was off topic in defending myself and showing you the truth...
You ever ask yourself why you spend so much time saying nothing? Just a little insight for you to take away from this train wreck: You come across like a 17 year old dullard who's just looking for an argument. You actually quoted a dictionary definition for god sake! Ignoring the fact that the poster you quoted was dead on in his analogy, anytime you pull a boner like that you look like a kid, a dumb kid.
Good luck, I hope you stop adding noise to the internet sometime in the near future.
Saying nothing? /sigh, whats wrong with using a dictionary definition? Im sorry if ive "said nothing" in this particular post, but its a been a while since ive read this thread and i felt i better defend myself if you're going to make useless comments like this and insult me.
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For Game Play issues, the usual process for getting these kind of bugs fixed (the ones that have a big negative impact on players) is to post them in the Game Play Focus: Bugs and Issues thread.
The Gameplay Senator (me!) then prioritises them based on player feedback and edits the Game Play: Top 5 Bugs and Issues post in the Feedback Request - Top 5 Bugs and Issues thread accordingly.
The Developers then reference this top five and try to resolve them on an ongoing basis as updates and chapters happen. We've got some fixes on the way for a number of these problems.
Sorry Badger,
There are bugs in there that have been there since launch, and, even more serious ones that have been in there since the NGE. Rubberbanding, items poofing when crossing server boundries, specials not going off, massive lag (which is a good trick on almost empty servers), NPCs teleporting and firing through walls and trees, ITV bugs, Mustafar instance problems and on and on and on.
Many of us DO know what the game is currently like, owing to the recent vet trial, AND yes, all those things are still in there. When people mentioned them on the O forums, what do they get from the devs? "That's too HAAAARRRDD. Would take too much time and resources to fix."
The SWG devs have absolutely NO credibility when it comes to bug fixing, and neither does anyone that says they do.
Well obviously the "usual process" isn't working because some of the bugs listed have been in there since launch. Like I asked in the original post: can you really imagine any other development company allowing such huge bugs to exist in their game for so long? If not then why do you give SOE a pass?
Only a blind-deaf-mute-majorly retarded-brain dead monkey could enjoy SWG at this point.It is a waste of 15 bucks a month, much less for the 3 accounts you would need for the medic buffbot, ent buffbot and pvp character, not to mention the insane grindfest to get every other buff in the game, gear and crap needed to even compete.
the devs who were responsible for NGE were just dumb.The devs responsible for it now are brain dead.You cant have a MMO without a player base, and a buncha puberty induced pimple faced brats arent a player base that I or anyone I know care about re-joining.Games dead..KAPUT HISTORY and wont be making a comeback because as SOE hasnt learned a lesson yet.Dont believe it? try POTBS..aside from bein a pirate game it has all of the same downfalls SWG had in the beginning.
Wanna play a MMO as a serious player? Learn not to waste your money on games written by Sony.At first I didnt like WoW, still not crazy about it, but when you put it up against any SOE title pound for pound bliz is a better company < wich isnt saying much any company is better than SOE even the guys who wrote FWO >.
People dont, and will never again trust SONY, Raph Koster or any of the other screw balls SOE hired to trash SWG.
I would leave Raph off that list...he was responsible for much of what was great about the pre-CU game. He had nothing to do with the NGE.
Lawl at this game. I can't believe people still play it. It's like some guy keeps hitting you in the face with a bat, and you just get up and ask for another.
nethervoid - Est. '97
[UO|EQ|SB|SWG|PS|HZ|EVE|NWN|WoW|VG|DF|AQW|DN|SWTOR|Dofus|SotA|BDO|AO|NW|LA] - Currently Playing EQ1
20k+ subs YouTube Gaming channel
I kinda agree with you. The devs are fixing things... but way too slow. Maybe in 2073 SWG is in playable condition
Well obviously the "usual process" isn't working because some of the bugs listed have been in there since launch. Like I asked in the original post: can you really imagine any other development company allowing such huge bugs to exist in their game for so long? If not then why do you give SOE a pass?
Well no your wrong there no place in there is there anything about not being able to read.....
Laws yes MOON that spells READ
Im not talking the little stuff but the biggins........
Hey Salvaje, i like your new 'thing', at least its more original than usual. Be sure to keep it up for a while though, im interested to see how long it take for someone to make a thread, saying they tried the game because of you and also quit, or came to hate it, in one hour. (no making other forum accounts :P) Not that many new players post (or know about) here, but the ones that have, as far as ive been here, have been fairly positive, certainly not /played1hr+quit.
The NGE is it's own worst enemy. Now in my 1 hour claim, I should specify that I mean within 1 hour of leaving Tansarii and setting feet on the ground in the real game. If you proceed as the legacy quest line guides you, in that hour you will:
1. Get sick of the crappy combat UI with manual aim and nothing telling you how to auto aim/fire, and even if you figure out the UI doesn't support it very well at all. The NGE manual mode basically leaves you feeling like you need 3 hands. Firing of specials from the toolbar isn't even in the default UI setup. This is EASILY the weakest and most frustrating single deficiency in the NGE new player experience.
2. See melee mobs attacking you behind obstacles, and even at distances well beyond melee combat range.
3. Have stuff keep you in aggro infinitely, even if you aren't taking damage, and can't even see that mob. You have to wait until that thing randomly despawns or else log out and log back in. This has been a problem from the release of the NGE to now, never fixed.
4. Have stuff shoot you through walls, hills, mountains, rocks, speeders, trees, basically anything, while at the same time "CANNOT SEE TARGET" when you try to fight back even though you aren't obstructed. This has been around since the CU and never fixed.
5. Start to realize that the whole legacy line is nothing more but the same two basic quest tasks over and over and over (ie: go here, kill X number of Y, and go here click X, go there, click Y, etc).
6. Encounter early legacy quests that can't be completed without wandering Tattoine because they increased mob levels around Mos Eisley due to a poorly designed "scavenger hunt" collection.
7. Die because your heal didn't fire but went into cooldown.
8. Start to realize that this is a 5 year old game and there is NO excuse at all for any of the above to still be happening!
And I could list dozens more.
And I've not even touched on the fundamental flaws in the NGE, that being the level based loot treadmill, the uninteresting static classes that don't allow for true character customization, and the fact that Jedi is both obtainable on character creation and sucks.
I've tried many MMO's since the NGE came out. The NGE has easily the worst new player experience of any of them. The noob tutorial in EVE taught me the basics that I needed to know, stuff I've not since had to 'unlearn'. The NGE doesn't prepare you at all for how the game is optimally played. It lures players into thinking they are going to be in space, walking around stations, helping Han Solo out, talking to quest givers that have voice, etc, only to dump them on the ground completely unprepared.
What gave me the idea of linking to the trial in my sig and actually ENCOURAGING everyone to try the NGE out was going into a trial about a week ago as a noob. I'd forgotten just how horrible the default setups are, and how much worse than I think of it someone who DIDNT know, unlike me, how to basically spend hours modding the client and the keymaps/UI to be semi functional would have a terrible experience. Two and a half years later, the NGE still tells you from the start that, "This place is gonna blow".
So, in other words, just as I can continually use SOE's own statements against them, I can use the NGE against the NGE. It just plain sucks. Try it for yourself if you doubt me.
The NGE failed, not just because it pissed off the vets, was morally wrong, it failed because it pisses off almost anyone who even tries it new, even if they didn't know about the TOOW scam, lies, and history that led up to it. It fails on it's own merits because it is a bad design and isn't fun.
Those 8 points are dead on accurate and almost unavoidable within the first few hours of game play on the ground. Also populations are severely lower on all servers, this is obvious if you played before nge.
I would leave Raph off that list...he was responsible for much of what was great about the pre-CU game. He had nothing to do with the NGE.
Very true. The pre cu sandbox was a classic Koster idea that he took to his brand new mmo. Koster wasn't around for the NGE.....hell he wasn't even around for the CU.
I would leave Raph off that list...he was responsible for much of what was great about the pre-CU game. He had nothing to do with the NGE.
Very true. The pre cu sandbox was a classic Koster idea that he took to his brand new mmo. Koster wasn't around for the NGE.....hell he wasn't even around for the CU.
Koster was kicked upstairs and out of the way two months after launch so that infinitely lesser talents (and I use "talent" under advisement) could proceed to muck up his game.
The LA guys could not wait to screw up his vision.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
Once a denizen of Ahazi
SAAY
are you religious, do you believe in an invisible sky pixie the same way you believe in the NGE?
no matter what logic is shown to you, you just refuse to ackowledge the evidence of your own eyes and flat out refute the testimonies of others that do not agree with you.
you have the nerve to call people blind but maybe it's you that is blind and all those that quit playing are the ones seeing clearly.
Do not bother to reply to this i have no wish to debate the point, like with any fundamentalist , debate is impossible, you cannot accept any view point other than your own, despite all the evidence to the contrary.
The last of the SHDWS in Shadow Valley Cantina, Ahazi
When have i called anyone blind, show me? I accept other people's views all the time. In this thread ive mostly just corrected and advised/informed. Oh and sorry for the late reply, my original, more lengthy reply was deleted - apparantly i was off topic in defending myself and showing you the truth...
You have yet to address the original post.
When have i called anyone blind, show me? I accept other people's views all the time. In this thread ive mostly just corrected and advised/informed. Oh and sorry for the late reply, my original, more lengthy reply was deleted - apparantly i was off topic in defending myself and showing you the truth...
You ever ask yourself why you spend so much time saying nothing? Just a little insight for you to take away from this train wreck: You come across like a 17 year old dullard who's just looking for an argument. You actually quoted a dictionary definition for god sake! Ignoring the fact that the poster you quoted was dead on in his analogy, anytime you pull a boner like that you look like a kid, a dumb kid.
Good luck, I hope you stop adding noise to the internet sometime in the near future.
Funny thing is supposedly the NGE was suppose to make the game appeal to "casual" players but in some ways it became more "hardcore." What is the solution for complaints made on this board about the way the game plays now? "Well if you would read this....or change that....or contact.....then you could get the game to work just fine." Hmmm....first day I played SWG I just hopped on the game and started playing. Sure I may not have known what I was doing short of that annoying green newb droid that wouldn't go away and I didn't know about all the features of the game but I was able to get the game to work and play it without forcing it to work.
And it takes an hour of playing the game to realize how bad it is now? I only lasted a few minutes in combat the last time I tried the game (umm...February?). I did last a little longer as entertainer but even that wouldn't be enough of a draw these days to keep me playing esp. with what inflation has done to the prices of things in that game...and I WAS on Bria.
We just tell people to play for a while *after* the newbie station so they can see what the real game is like. Tansarii station isn't representative of the game as a whole.
When have i called anyone blind, show me? I accept other people's views all the time. In this thread ive mostly just corrected and advised/informed. Oh and sorry for the late reply, my original, more lengthy reply was deleted - apparantly i was off topic in defending myself and showing you the truth...
You ever ask yourself why you spend so much time saying nothing? Just a little insight for you to take away from this train wreck: You come across like a 17 year old dullard who's just looking for an argument. You actually quoted a dictionary definition for god sake! Ignoring the fact that the poster you quoted was dead on in his analogy, anytime you pull a boner like that you look like a kid, a dumb kid.
Good luck, I hope you stop adding noise to the internet sometime in the near future.
Saying nothing? /sigh, whats wrong with using a dictionary definition? Im sorry if ive "said nothing" in this particular post, but its a been a while since ive read this thread and i felt i better defend myself if you're going to make useless comments like this and insult me.