What is it with politicians (from any party) who think they can do this sort of thing and not get caught? They KNOW that the media will go into the feeding frenzy mode over anything involving sex, because Americans are so incredibly uptight about sex.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
Most of the American's I know are very open minded about sex. In general its the media and sensationalists which use it as a mechanism to make hype and further there own agendas. Ask your average america how they feel about people having sex and they say, hey its there business not mine.
When you see a politician being bothered about his sexual practices usually its because someone has something to gain when there removed from power.
siobabble he was married with 3 daughters and the governor of NY. uptight about sex? wtf. you are in left field. WTF does this have to do with anything? The woman he was arranging to have sex with was of legal age. If she wasn't, you better believe that the media would have jumped all over it. You can be pissed about adultery if you want, but that's a separate issue from prostitution. Then again, that's between him and his wife and none of my godamned business. he was supposed to bring ethics reform to new york. And he may have actually been working on that. There's a difference between demanding honesty and integrity in business and government and invading people's personal lives. Many people have a strong division between home and work and I haven't seen any evidence that there was any crossover here. The fact that the police were investigating a prostitution ring and not Spitzer tells me that he was keeping the two VERY separated. another self interested politician. So let's say that you're a prohibitionist. If said politician had a three martini lunch, he would be self interested, right? Yes, Gods forbid that the man have a private life. impeach or resign. this is what you would call proof.
Yeah, it's pretty low that a married man would feel the need to buy a hummer from a high society whore, but it's really not my fuckin' business. And I find it especially heartwarming that while people are being robbed and raped, as well as being murdered and tortured over stupid shit, the police were busy trying to stop a politician from getting laid. Great use of the tax payer's money.
siobabble he was married with 3 daughters and the governor of NY. uptight about sex? wtf. you are in left field. WTF does this have to do with anything? The woman he was arranging to have sex with was of legal age. If she wasn't, you better believe that the media would have jumped all over it. You can be pissed about adultery if you want, but that's a separate issue from prostitution. Then again, that's between him and his wife and none of my godamned business. he was supposed to bring ethics reform to new york. And he may have actually been working on that. There's a difference between demanding honesty and integrity in business and government and invading people's personal lives. Many people have a strong division between home and work and I haven't seen any evidence that there was any crossover here. The fact that the police were investigating a prostitution ring and not Spitzer tells me that he was keeping the two VERY separated. another self interested politician. So let's say that you're a prohibitionist. If said politician had a three martini lunch, he would be self interested, right? Yes, Gods forbid that the man have a private life. impeach or resign. this is what you would call proof.
Yeah, it's pretty low that a married man would feel the need to buy a hummer from a high society whore, but it's really not my fuckin' business. And I find it especially heartwarming that while people are being robbed and raped, as well as being murdered and tortured over stupid shit, the police were busy trying to stop a politician from getting laid. Great use of the tax payer's money.
people do try and stop rape and murder. but fact is there are people to prevent prostitution too. its departmental, you know? that sting was specifically a prostitution thing. oh wait, they shouldve been hunting for osama bin laden.
fact is prostitution is illegal and he holds a very high political office. infer what you want. you've already painted yourself in my book.
he is serving the greater good, so its ok he breaks the law right? pathetic. ok, impeach him for wanting illegals to have drivers licenses. asshat.
siobabble he was married with 3 daughters and the governor of NY. uptight about sex? wtf. you are in left field. WTF does this have to do with anything? The woman he was arranging to have sex with was of legal age. If she wasn't, you better believe that the media would have jumped all over it. You can be pissed about adultery if you want, but that's a separate issue from prostitution. Then again, that's between him and his wife and none of my godamned business. he was supposed to bring ethics reform to new york. And he may have actually been working on that. There's a difference between demanding honesty and integrity in business and government and invading people's personal lives. Many people have a strong division between home and work and I haven't seen any evidence that there was any crossover here. The fact that the police were investigating a prostitution ring and not Spitzer tells me that he was keeping the two VERY separated. another self interested politician. So let's say that you're a prohibitionist. If said politician had a three martini lunch, he would be self interested, right? Yes, Gods forbid that the man have a private life. impeach or resign. this is what you would call proof.
Yeah, it's pretty low that a married man would feel the need to buy a hummer from a high society whore, but it's really not my fuckin' business. And I find it especially heartwarming that while people are being robbed and raped, as well as being murdered and tortured over stupid shit, the police were busy trying to stop a politician from getting laid. Great use of the tax payer's money.
people do try and stop rape and murder. but fact is there are people to prevent prostitution too. its departmental, you know? that sting was specifically a prostitution thing. oh wait, they shouldve been hunting for osama bin laden.
The preservation of human life always takes the highest priority. The fact that resources are deliberately being wasted on preventing prostitution doesn't change that.
fact is prostitution is illegal and he holds a very high political office. infer what you want. you've already painted yourself in my book.
If a law is unjust, then you should break it. If a law is unconstitutional, you should break it. Given, I don't break all laws that I find unreasonable, but I don't feel bad if I actually do.
Furthermore, being in high political office affords an individual a greater ability to affect the law. A politician's job is not to dogmatically defend laws that are already written, but rather to clarify, refine and, on occasion, overturn laws.
he is serving the greater good, so its ok he breaks the law right? pathetic. ok, impeach him for wanting illegals to have drivers licenses. asshat.
Just because it's a law doesn't automatically make it moral. Ethics are a lot more complicated than that.
siobabble he was married with 3 daughters and the governor of NY. uptight about sex? wtf. you are in left field. he was supposed to bring ethics reform to new york. another self interested politician. impeach or resign. this is what you would call proof.
Didn't read the story. Was he another politician caught taking money for screwing people?
Funny, I always thought all politicians were prostitutes......
he compromised his position of power. a high ranking state official involved in a scandal such as this opens himself up to blackmail. ever see the movie 'the godfather' ? this guy should immediately be made an example of. anyone who does something like this should be.
yet you wave your liberal flags. or divert attention from the democrat party as oldlady did. nice try.
"Federal prosecutors apparently caught Spitzer on a wiretap arranging for a prostitute to travel from New York to Washington, D.C., where he was visiting on business. It is a federal offense to transport someone across state lines for the purpose of engaging in prostitution.
During the 2006 campaign Spitzer called out the video game industry for excessive violence and, ironically, sexual content in its products:
Like all parents, I know it is increasingly difficult to protect our children from negative influences… we have learned that when self-regulation fails, government must step in… we must do more to protect our children from excessive sex and violence in the media…
Media content has gotten more graphic, more violent and more sex-based… Currently, nothing under New York State law prohibits a fourteen-year old from walking into a video store and buying… a game like ‘Grand Theft Auto,’ which rewards a player for stealing cars and beating people up. Children can even simulate having sex with a prostitute…
Then to top things off... since its election time...Spitzer is a superdelegate for Sen. Hillary Clinton.
"If we don't attack them, they will attack us first. So we'd better retaliate before they have a chance to strike"
he compromised his position of power. a high ranking state official involved in a scandal such as this opens himself up to blackmail. ever see the movie 'the godfather' ? this guy should immediately be made an example of. anyone who does something like this should be. yet you wave your liberal flags. or divert attention from the democrat party as oldlady did. nice try.
Nice try yourself. The fact of the matter, as I continually point out, is that the politicians of both parties do it. You seem to think my remark was a criticism of Republicans. frankly, I didn't have the slightest idea whether the Governor of New York was a Democrat, or a Republican. Nor did I specify a party.
Clinton did it, Gingretch did it, it looks like McCain did it with a lobbyist.
Get over yourself. Quit watching Fox/Bill O'Reilly, being a ditto head to Rush Limbaugh, and watching the Country Music Network. Think. This country is going down the tubes because people only listen to political propaganda rather than formulate an independant thought.
he compromised his position of power. a high ranking state official involved in a scandal such as this opens himself up to blackmail. ever see the movie 'the godfather' ? this guy should immediately be made an example of. anyone who does something like this should be. yet you wave your liberal flags. or divert attention from the democrat party as oldlady did. nice try.
If prostitution was legal in the US, like it is in most of the rest of the world, blackmail wouldn't be an issue. They make the same argument about gays in the military. And the answer is pretty much the same.
Although, to clarify my position on the gays in the military thing, there are other reasons why allowing people to be openly gay in the military is a bad idea. The biggest being that there is a very strong culture of hatred toward gays both in the US and in the United States military. This isn't something that can just be "educated" away since it goes to the very heart of how American's define masculinity. Military leadership is hard enough without having to babysit certain people to make sure they don't deliberately get killed by their co-workers.
I know that's not right, but you have to work with reality and not some ideal when you make policy.
he compromised his position of power. a high ranking state official involved in a scandal such as this opens himself up to blackmail. ever see the movie 'the godfather' ? this guy should immediately be made an example of. anyone who does something like this should be. yet you wave your liberal flags. or divert attention from the democrat party as oldlady did. nice try.
If prostitution was legal in the US, like it is in most of the rest of the world, blackmail wouldn't be an issue. They make the same argument about gays in the military. And the answer is pretty much the same.
Although, to clarify my position on the gays in the military thing, there are other reasons why allowing people to be openly gay in the military is a bad idea. The biggest being that there is a very strong culture of hatred toward gays both in the US and in the United States military. This isn't something that can just be "educated" away since it goes to the very heart of how American's define masculinity. Military leadership is hard enough without having to babysit certain people to make sure they don't deliberately get killed by their co-workers.
I know that's not right, but you have to work with reality and not some ideal when you make policy.
Alright! This is a scandal we can sink our teeth into. Today was only the tip of the iceberg. This story will be around for quite a while. All in an election year too. Think I'll make some popcorn and get comfortable.
Prostitution is legal pretty much everywhere in Nevada except Vegas.
Not sure but I don't think legal prostitution is widespread around the world. It might be over looked but not legal.
I can not believe the defense of this guy he is getting in the forums. The left has no shame. It was illegal not to mention pathetic. This is nothing about being comfortable with sex. Spitzer was a DA who busted prostitution rings. I suppose he was wrong when HE was on the police side. I aggree partially with 2nd post. How does a person in this type of position think he won't get cought? He must have thought he had inside info and could avoid trouble because of his past work.
Republicans wash our hands of these type of guys. See Larry Craig.
I really don't care much about politician's sex lives. Is anyone else the same?
Remember, those folks work very hard to administer the country, and don't make half the income of their business-side counterparts. Fortunately, politicians are pretty tough-skinned and don't get emotional over this sort of thing.
I would be pissed if I worked 100 hours a week, dealt with shit all day, and couldn't spend a buck or two on a whore once a month.
If a man breaks his oath to his wife, why should we suppose he will uphold his oaths to us? If he cheats on her, why shouldn't we think he might cheat on us? If he lies to her, why shouldn't we think he might lie to us? *That* is why things like this are important, IMO, not because I care about his sex life per se.
If a man breaks his oath to his wife, why should we suppose he will uphold his oaths to us? If he cheats on her, why shouldn't we think he might cheat on us? If he lies to her, why shouldn't we think he might lie to us? *That* is why things like this are important, IMO, not because I care about his sex life per se.
What a crock of shit.
Politics, by their very nature, require one to lie, backstab and manipulate in order to achieve political goals. It's kind of like hiring a lawyer. Do you want your lawyer to be cute and cuddly? Hell No!!! You want the most ruthless unscrupulous bastard that ever lived on your side.
I don't elect public officials to be the fuckin' Pope. I don't expect them to be saints. I DO expect them to be HONEST TO A FAULT.
Everybody does something that they don't want anyone else to know about. Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone lies now and then. Everyone breaks the law at some point, intentionally or not.
Just because he holds public office doesn't mean that he has to be something more than human.
Well, *you* might want someone unethical to be your lawyer. I do not. It's clear that you and I have different views on that issue and, apparently, on what we expect from politicians.
I don't expect them to be perfect, but I do expect them not to cheat on their wives, commit tax evasion, money laundering, etc.
Are public officials held to a higher standard? Generally, yes. If they don't like it then they shouldn't be public servants. Most of these guys are scum to begin with, attracted by power and influence, not by the idea of helping their fellow man. More than human? Ha. I've never thought they were that. I don't see what is wrong with holding them to the same standards I do anyone else.
Why would I want a sleazy, unethical bastard in office? Such a person is just as likely to screw me over as anyone else: more likely, if he thinks he has something to gain from doing so, and we've seen that public servants frequently can find reasons they find compelling for screwing us over at the drop of a hat.
If you want to live in a world run by villans, that is your affair, but don't turn around and wonder why the world seems to be going to Hell when it is run by people who seem to belong there.
Does it bother you that if you live in NY, Elliot could have you arrested based on a hunch? Do you want to be subject to the whim of someone who will knowingly break the law to get his nuts sucked, and do it in such a fashion that wastes money AND crosses state lines? This is going waste millions of dollars in press coverage, court fees and lawyer fees.
Face it, Elliot Spitzer is a piece of shit, and a low life. Anyone who would do that to their wife is half the man I am, and not worth th sweat off of my nutsack. I deal with lust, boredom and other side-effects of marriage, but unlike him, I choose to make my marriage work and uphold this standard like the rest of my morality. We need leaders who take morality seriously. After all, being that a governer controls the army, police and politics of a state, wouldn't you want someone moral?
Is that too much to ask without making excuses for humanities shortcomings?
Please, ditch your "fuck the world attitute" and hold people accountable for their actions. This is America's #1 set of problems: passing the blame, excusing actions due to imperfection and not owning up to issues.
Does it bother you that if you live in NY, Elliot could have you arrested based on a hunch? That's more of a problem with the system than the man, no? Do you want to be subject to the whim of someone who will knowingly break the law to get his nuts sucked, and do it in such a fashion that wastes money AND crosses state lines? In a democracy, no one person holds absolute power. Therefore, You aren't subject to his whim. BTW, once he signs that paycheck, it's his money. If he wanted to buy the world's largest still life carved out of mashed potatoes, it would be a waste of his money but it would still be his money to waste. This is going waste millions of dollars in press coverage, court fees and lawyer fees. The press is expending its own resources for coverage and they're hoping that this scandal will make them enough in advertising revenue to turn a profit. Court fees and lawyer fees are all out of Spitzer's pocket and it is his money to spend. He knew what could happen when he chose to do this. Face it, Elliot Spitzer is a piece of shit, and a low life. Anyone who would do that to their wife is half the man I am, and not worth th sweat off of my nutsack. I deal with lust, boredom and other side-effects of marriage, but unlike him, I choose to make my marriage work and uphold this standard like the rest of my morality. We need leaders who take morality seriously. After all, being that a governer controls the army, police and politics of a state, wouldn't you want someone moral? Who's morals? My grandfather and his second wife have an open marriage. They fuck whoever they want, including each other, and have been married for about 30 years. I couldn't do it, but to each their own. How do you know that Spitzer's wife didn't know about it and ignored / condoned the situation so that she could continue riding the pool boy? You make an awful lot of assumption here. Is that too much to ask without making excuses for humanities shortcomings? In the case of your moral code, yes. Please, ditch your "fuck the world attitute" and hold people accountable for their actions. This is America's #1 set of problems: passing the blame, excusing actions due to imperfection and not owning up to issues. People are accountable for their actions in so much as there are consequences. Spitzer chose to solicit a prostitute despite the fact that it was illegal. He's now dealing with those consequences. The problem I have is with the "holier than thou" bullshit that follows situations like this. I'll admit, it's always fun to catch someone else with their pants down. But Jesus Jumping on a Pogo Stick! Can we ditch the moral posturing? At the end of the day we all have skeletons in our closet. Just because no one has found yours doesn't make you any better than this poor bastard.
If a man breaks his oath to his wife, why should we suppose he will uphold his oaths to us? If he cheats on her, why shouldn't we think he might cheat on us? If he lies to her, why shouldn't we think he might lie to us? *That* is why things like this are important, IMO, not because I care about his sex life per se.
What a crock of shit.
Politics, by their very nature, require one to lie, backstab and manipulate in order to achieve political goals. It's kind of like hiring a lawyer. Do you want your lawyer to be cute and cuddly? Hell No!!! You want the most ruthless unscrupulous bastard that ever lived on your side.
I don't elect public officials to be the fuckin' Pope. I don't expect them to be saints. I DO expect them to be HONEST TO A FAULT.
Everybody does something that they don't want anyone else to know about. Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone lies now and then. Everyone breaks the law at some point, intentionally or not.
Just because he holds public office doesn't mean that he has to be something more than human.
Seriously, grow up.
Dude, you are so cynical. I hope you never decide to go into politics. Character does matter. If your own spouse can't trust you, how can your constituents? Corruption is already rampant enough, we don't need voters throwing fuel on the fire by supporting this behavior.
Dude, you are so cynical. I hope you never decide to go into politics. Character does matter. If your own spouse can't trust you, how can your constituents? Corruption is already rampant enough, we don't need voters throwing fuel on the fire by supporting this behavior.
Couldn't agree more, three points for this jump shot!
What people have been conditioned to do, just like Pavlov's dogs, is go into attack mode any time one of their sides politicians get caught doing something immoral. You don't know how many times I hear a Republican supporter say, "But Clinton did it". In doing so they are excusing the politicians actions, relieving them from accountability. Thus, politicians are encouraged to be even bigger whores, and steal even more, because they know their constituent base will defend them.
Larry Craig, the Idaho Senator caught soliciting sex in the Minneapolis men's room was an interesting exception. While talk show pundits, and Fox News, defended him, his fellow Republican Senators must have had some inside Capitol Hill office knowledge, because they threw him to the wolves toot sweet. Makes one think his behaviour was not news within the beltway.
What you really want is someone to tell you sweet little lies about how your world view is the only world view and how those who disagree are social deviants. You want someone to put on a show of how you expect life to be and to never have that illusion broken by inconvenient realities.
Of course, when those delicious little scandals erupt, it gives you a wonderful opportunity to act outraged and point fingers in hopes of keeping suspicious eyes away from your own personal life. Enjoy your scandal. It won't make you any less hypocritical.
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What is it with politicians (from any party) who think they can do this sort of thing and not get caught? They KNOW that the media will go into the feeding frenzy mode over anything involving sex, because Americans are so incredibly uptight about sex.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
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Most of the American's I know are very open minded about sex. In general its the media and sensationalists which use it as a mechanism to make hype and further there own agendas. Ask your average america how they feel about people having sex and they say, hey its there business not mine.
When you see a politician being bothered about his sexual practices usually its because someone has something to gain when there removed from power.
siobabble
he was married with 3 daughters and the governor of NY. uptight about sex? wtf. you are in left field.
he was supposed to bring ethics reform to new york.
another self interested politician.
impeach or resign. this is what you would call proof.
chips, dips chains & whips.
Yeah, it's pretty low that a married man would feel the need to buy a hummer from a high society whore, but it's really not my fuckin' business. And I find it especially heartwarming that while people are being robbed and raped, as well as being murdered and tortured over stupid shit, the police were busy trying to stop a politician from getting laid. Great use of the tax payer's money.
Prostitution should be made legal for all consenting adults. In much of the world, it is. Outlawing it here in the US, sure as hell isn't working.
Yeah, it's pretty low that a married man would feel the need to buy a hummer from a high society whore, but it's really not my fuckin' business. And I find it especially heartwarming that while people are being robbed and raped, as well as being murdered and tortured over stupid shit, the police were busy trying to stop a politician from getting laid. Great use of the tax payer's money.
Prostitution should be made legal for all consenting adults. In much of the world, it is. Outlawing it here in the US, sure as hell isn't working.
and the wagons begin to circle.people do try and stop rape and murder. but fact is there are people to prevent prostitution too. its departmental, you know? that sting was specifically a prostitution thing. oh wait, they shouldve been hunting for osama bin laden.
fact is prostitution is illegal and he holds a very high political office. infer what you want. you've already painted yourself in my book.
he is serving the greater good, so its ok he breaks the law right? pathetic. ok, impeach him for wanting illegals to have drivers licenses. asshat.
chips, dips chains & whips.
Yeah, it's pretty low that a married man would feel the need to buy a hummer from a high society whore, but it's really not my fuckin' business. And I find it especially heartwarming that while people are being robbed and raped, as well as being murdered and tortured over stupid shit, the police were busy trying to stop a politician from getting laid. Great use of the tax payer's money.
Prostitution should be made legal for all consenting adults. In much of the world, it is. Outlawing it here in the US, sure as hell isn't working.
and the wagons begin to circle.people do try and stop rape and murder. but fact is there are people to prevent prostitution too. its departmental, you know? that sting was specifically a prostitution thing. oh wait, they shouldve been hunting for osama bin laden.
The preservation of human life always takes the highest priority. The fact that resources are deliberately being wasted on preventing prostitution doesn't change that.
fact is prostitution is illegal and he holds a very high political office. infer what you want. you've already painted yourself in my book.
If a law is unjust, then you should break it. If a law is unconstitutional, you should break it. Given, I don't break all laws that I find unreasonable, but I don't feel bad if I actually do.
Furthermore, being in high political office affords an individual a greater ability to affect the law. A politician's job is not to dogmatically defend laws that are already written, but rather to clarify, refine and, on occasion, overturn laws.
he is serving the greater good, so its ok he breaks the law right? pathetic. ok, impeach him for wanting illegals to have drivers licenses. asshat.
Just because it's a law doesn't automatically make it moral. Ethics are a lot more complicated than that.
Didn't read the story. Was he another politician caught taking money for screwing people?
Funny, I always thought all politicians were prostitutes......
he compromised his position of power. a high ranking state official involved in a scandal such as this opens himself up to blackmail. ever see the movie 'the godfather' ? this guy should immediately be made an example of. anyone who does something like this should be.
yet you wave your liberal flags. or divert attention from the democrat party as oldlady did. nice try.
chips, dips chains & whips.
he clearly should run to be governor of nevada.
98% of the teenage population does or has tried smoking pot. If you''re one of the 2% who hasn''t, copy & paste this in your signature.
From gamepolitics.com
Excerpt:
"Federal prosecutors apparently caught Spitzer on a wiretap arranging for a prostitute to travel from New York to Washington, D.C., where he was visiting on business. It is a federal offense to transport someone across state lines for the purpose of engaging in prostitution.
During the 2006 campaign Spitzer called out the video game industry for excessive violence and, ironically, sexual content in its products:
Then to top things off... since its election time...Spitzer is a superdelegate for Sen. Hillary Clinton.
"If we don't attack them, they will attack us first. So we'd better retaliate before they have a chance to strike"
Clinton did it, Gingretch did it, it looks like McCain did it with a lobbyist.
Get over yourself. Quit watching Fox/Bill O'Reilly, being a ditto head to Rush Limbaugh, and watching the Country Music Network. Think. This country is going down the tubes because people only listen to political propaganda rather than formulate an independant thought.
If prostitution was legal in the US, like it is in most of the rest of the world, blackmail wouldn't be an issue. They make the same argument about gays in the military. And the answer is pretty much the same.
Although, to clarify my position on the gays in the military thing, there are other reasons why allowing people to be openly gay in the military is a bad idea. The biggest being that there is a very strong culture of hatred toward gays both in the US and in the United States military. This isn't something that can just be "educated" away since it goes to the very heart of how American's define masculinity. Military leadership is hard enough without having to babysit certain people to make sure they don't deliberately get killed by their co-workers.
I know that's not right, but you have to work with reality and not some ideal when you make policy.
you want to see a prostitute, fine. you're married and you want to see a prostitute, get a divorce. I don't care if you're a politician or not.
If prostitution was legal in the US, like it is in most of the rest of the world, blackmail wouldn't be an issue. They make the same argument about gays in the military. And the answer is pretty much the same.
Although, to clarify my position on the gays in the military thing, there are other reasons why allowing people to be openly gay in the military is a bad idea. The biggest being that there is a very strong culture of hatred toward gays both in the US and in the United States military. This isn't something that can just be "educated" away since it goes to the very heart of how American's define masculinity. Military leadership is hard enough without having to babysit certain people to make sure they don't deliberately get killed by their co-workers.
I know that's not right, but you have to work with reality and not some ideal when you make policy.
prostitution is legal in las vegas.chips, dips chains & whips.
Alright! This is a scandal we can sink our teeth into. Today was only the tip of the iceberg. This story will be around for quite a while. All in an election year too. Think I'll make some popcorn and get comfortable.
Not sure but I don't think legal prostitution is widespread around the world. It might be over looked but not legal.
I can not believe the defense of this guy he is getting in the forums. The left has no shame. It was illegal not to mention pathetic. This is nothing about being comfortable with sex. Spitzer was a DA who busted prostitution rings. I suppose he was wrong when HE was on the police side. I aggree partially with 2nd post. How does a person in this type of position think he won't get cought? He must have thought he had inside info and could avoid trouble because of his past work.
Republicans wash our hands of these type of guys. See Larry Craig.
I really don't care much about politician's sex lives. Is anyone else the same?
Remember, those folks work very hard to administer the country, and don't make half the income of their business-side counterparts. Fortunately, politicians are pretty tough-skinned and don't get emotional over this sort of thing.
I would be pissed if I worked 100 hours a week, dealt with shit all day, and couldn't spend a buck or two on a whore once a month.
If a man breaks his oath to his wife, why should we suppose he will uphold his oaths to us? If he cheats on her, why shouldn't we think he might cheat on us? If he lies to her, why shouldn't we think he might lie to us? *That* is why things like this are important, IMO, not because I care about his sex life per se.
What a crock of shit.
Politics, by their very nature, require one to lie, backstab and manipulate in order to achieve political goals. It's kind of like hiring a lawyer. Do you want your lawyer to be cute and cuddly? Hell No!!! You want the most ruthless unscrupulous bastard that ever lived on your side.
I don't elect public officials to be the fuckin' Pope. I don't expect them to be saints. I DO expect them to be HONEST TO A FAULT.
Everybody does something that they don't want anyone else to know about. Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone lies now and then. Everyone breaks the law at some point, intentionally or not.
Just because he holds public office doesn't mean that he has to be something more than human.
Seriously, grow up.
Well, *you* might want someone unethical to be your lawyer. I do not. It's clear that you and I have different views on that issue and, apparently, on what we expect from politicians.
I don't expect them to be perfect, but I do expect them not to cheat on their wives, commit tax evasion, money laundering, etc.
Are public officials held to a higher standard? Generally, yes. If they don't like it then they shouldn't be public servants. Most of these guys are scum to begin with, attracted by power and influence, not by the idea of helping their fellow man. More than human? Ha. I've never thought they were that. I don't see what is wrong with holding them to the same standards I do anyone else.
Why would I want a sleazy, unethical bastard in office? Such a person is just as likely to screw me over as anyone else: more likely, if he thinks he has something to gain from doing so, and we've seen that public servants frequently can find reasons they find compelling for screwing us over at the drop of a hat.
If you want to live in a world run by villans, that is your affair, but don't turn around and wonder why the world seems to be going to Hell when it is run by people who seem to belong there.
Does it bother you that if you live in NY, Elliot could have you arrested based on a hunch? Do you want to be subject to the whim of someone who will knowingly break the law to get his nuts sucked, and do it in such a fashion that wastes money AND crosses state lines? This is going waste millions of dollars in press coverage, court fees and lawyer fees.
Face it, Elliot Spitzer is a piece of shit, and a low life. Anyone who would do that to their wife is half the man I am, and not worth th sweat off of my nutsack. I deal with lust, boredom and other side-effects of marriage, but unlike him, I choose to make my marriage work and uphold this standard like the rest of my morality. We need leaders who take morality seriously. After all, being that a governer controls the army, police and politics of a state, wouldn't you want someone moral?
Is that too much to ask without making excuses for humanities shortcomings?
Please, ditch your "fuck the world attitute" and hold people accountable for their actions. This is America's #1 set of problems: passing the blame, excusing actions due to imperfection and not owning up to issues.
What a crock of shit.
Politics, by their very nature, require one to lie, backstab and manipulate in order to achieve political goals. It's kind of like hiring a lawyer. Do you want your lawyer to be cute and cuddly? Hell No!!! You want the most ruthless unscrupulous bastard that ever lived on your side.
I don't elect public officials to be the fuckin' Pope. I don't expect them to be saints. I DO expect them to be HONEST TO A FAULT.
Everybody does something that they don't want anyone else to know about. Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone lies now and then. Everyone breaks the law at some point, intentionally or not.
Just because he holds public office doesn't mean that he has to be something more than human.
Seriously, grow up.
Dude, you are so cynical. I hope you never decide to go into politics. Character does matter. If your own spouse can't trust you, how can your constituents? Corruption is already rampant enough, we don't need voters throwing fuel on the fire by supporting this behavior.
Couldn't agree more, three points for this jump shot!
What people have been conditioned to do, just like Pavlov's dogs, is go into attack mode any time one of their sides politicians get caught doing something immoral. You don't know how many times I hear a Republican supporter say, "But Clinton did it". In doing so they are excusing the politicians actions, relieving them from accountability. Thus, politicians are encouraged to be even bigger whores, and steal even more, because they know their constituent base will defend them.
Larry Craig, the Idaho Senator caught soliciting sex in the Minneapolis men's room was an interesting exception. While talk show pundits, and Fox News, defended him, his fellow Republican Senators must have had some inside Capitol Hill office knowledge, because they threw him to the wolves toot sweet. Makes one think his behaviour was not news within the beltway.
So you want a politician that's honest? Really?
You want a Radically Honest public servant....
Really?...
Yeah, I didn't think so.
If someone ran for office and answered all questions about themselves honestly and in explicit detail, You wouldn't be able to handle it and you sure as hell wouldn't vote for it.
What you really want is someone to tell you sweet little lies about how your world view is the only world view and how those who disagree are social deviants. You want someone to put on a show of how you expect life to be and to never have that illusion broken by inconvenient realities.
Of course, when those delicious little scandals erupt, it gives you a wonderful opportunity to act outraged and point fingers in hopes of keeping suspicious eyes away from your own personal life. Enjoy your scandal. It won't make you any less hypocritical.