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Only marketing so far !
delete5230
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Is there anything from beta testers at all yet, any leaks. If the game is so close to release you think there would be something, anything, even roomers ?
I expressed my concerns in several post, however I'm still looking fwd to AoC or Warhammer, I'm not that crazy about a release in the spring when the weather is getting nice, thats if the games are even ready by then, there is no way to tell. After all AoC gave every indication of a release in December only to pull the plug just a few weeks before. To me stuff like that or Vanguard marketing causes me to loose credibility with most all MMO releases.
When it comes down to it, the only thing we have to go on is marketing and fluff from the devs and they can tell us anything, again we have Vanguard and Darkfall to show us that, Do you believe video clips ? I don't.
I need something real. Like a Car mfg. can tell you all about how one of there latest vehicle's will have a 10 disc CD changer and auto tint windows but they may be having transmission problems.
I know one MMO marketing trick is to build anticipation, but this can turn negative after so long. So is there anything out there from any CREDIBLE source at all yet ?
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<Mod edit>You say that AoC loses credibility for pushing back a release date? It makes more sense for a developer to push back a release date to fix bugs, make improvements, and general polish work. Would you rather have a company release a game without fixing the bugs? I'm not sure where you get your MMO knowledge from, but every developer pushes back initial release dates. You sit here and complain about lack of information, but have you even visited the AoC community site or browsed through the forums. There is a wealth of information out there already on AoC, you're just to lazy to go look for it. You want a credible source? How about all of the interviews that the AoC developers have done with websites to talk about classes, PVP, combat, etc.
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I don't know how you can say there are no leaks. There are a ton of videos posted at youtube. Now if your concerned with the status of the game on the day of release, I can almost guarentee that there will be issues. I don't know of any game that didn't have issues on release. Even LOTR had issues. crafting/economy just to name one. The belief that a game will be 100% ready at launch is a wetdream. Wake up and smell the coffee. It might be a good idea for you to wait 6-8 months after its official release before you purchase the game, or try your luck with Warhammer. good luck.
I don't get it, How can you say that giving us a release date and braking your work to continue polishing a game is a good thing !!! Most products stand by there word all of there words. You don't even have a clue how far into development this game was in December and you don't know now without beta testers telling us.
How do you know your making hype !!! Are you in beta to know, YOUR READING MARKETING !!!
A date changed is nothing to worry about. Sure, one can get a little mopey and angry that the Developers didn't stick up to the original plan, but that's just about it.
As for the rest of the post...I'm not sure I understand you. You mean to say because the currently available Beta-Leaks and official material is not enough for you? Well, that's a sentiment many haters of the game share, on the other hand, I've yet to see more concrete things for WAR for example. So really, I don't know what you're asking for? You want Beta-Testers to leak more info to you? That would be a breach of NDA from them and would lead to them being suspended from the game. In general, I don't trust NDA-Breakers, as I have pointed out numerous times before.
You should simply wait until the NDA is lifted, which will happen when the next stage of the Beta begins as far as we know. You will be able to register for a Stress-testing Beta, too so you can try and get in there and find out for yourself if the game is for you or not.
Everything else is just either Doomsaying or Hyping. Frankly, I don#t know why you are so worried. IIRC there was even less information about WoW before it was shunted into Open Beta. Only bits and pieces. And a whole lot of Hype. *shrug*
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
or just take the agnostic POV and say idk, you were not in beta so how do you know? apply the same logic to yourself as you are to others. Based on other games it is typically pushed back to improve the game. so i will draw the same conclusion here. Thats what beta testers are there to do, help improve the game and find bugs. the developer isn't going to show us all the bad things going wrong with AoC. Thats not smart, they want to show you what they have to offer or going to offer, and making a good game and showing us what they are doing is MARKETING!!!11 they are there to turn a profit... i don't understand why you are crying about marketing. hey guess what if AoC promises all this great stuff and doesn't come thro, well i bet half the people here won't buy another FUNCOM game
Well I guess i'm going to work right now not knowing anymore than this morning on how far this game REALLY is, just arguements.
Thanks a lot, very helpful, or no one knows !
there is a lot of info out right now you just have to look...(for AmazingAvery posts) his posts usually have a wealth of information
*Hint: Open Beta, idk how much of this is true but thats the rumer
http://community.ageofconan.com/wsp/conan/frontend.cgi?func=frontend.show&template=main
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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well it is their job to sell games... i don't see why you are so concerned about funcom pushing pre-orders. like i said if it turns out to be fluff, i prolly won't end up buying a funcom game again...
i agree lets not cry Doooooooooooom!!!! (lol singsofdeath) over this. based on what i've seen AoC is turning out to be my next MMO in he foreseeable future. idk maybe im in denial, because if this flops i won't have an MMO
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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id rather be optimistic than be a whiny troll before i know how the game will turn out, at least after the fact i have a reason
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. Quote pretty much sums it up.
Waiting for: A skill-based MMO with Freedom and Consequence.
Woe to thee, the pierce-ed.
What I can say is that you don't have a new Dark and light here and it's not a Vanguard either!
It's not marketing they play it safe and they don't want to see something like NGE in SWG breaking the game.
I have big hopes for this game and they'll succeed where most didn't!
There's also people who are willing to invest in some risk because they believe in the game. That's for them to decide. So let them, no reason to bash them or the game (this is not personally directed at you solareus, just a general observation of the boards).
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
Home from work hoping to find good feedback from players, but I guess there is not much out there yet.
However Bradshjw did help me find this : http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=56290
It helps somewhat, and makes me feel like it maybe close to release, however it does come from the devs so I do have my guard up a little and can still be marketing.
dates are made by the marketing department due to pressure from magazines and websites who crave release dates.
the developers know that date is wayyyy off (as it always is) and dont really give a toss about giving a proper date because it would take ages to factor in everything and account for delays.
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds
-Solid non level based game
-Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
go to youtube.com type "age of conan" in the search and then click "date" to organize the videos according to the latest
delays don't dissappoint me as much as delays that could have been avoided
i mean my impression is that norwegians are more lax about their work ethic
i just wish i knew that the game was being made by people that would work as hard as they could to make sure the game will be released and functioning on time
Just when you think you have all the answers, I change the questions.
I may just be wishful thinking but i starting to think that not seeing any/many Beta links is a good thing.
There were tons of Beta leaks and NDA breakers when Vanguard was near going live and after it went live we saw that they were all right.
I havent really seen any Beta breakers on any sites bashing AOC so i think maybe that is a good thing. Perhaps they are actually enjoying being in Beta and they are too busy playing and dont want to risk it by breaking NDA.
But maybe i just havent seen them.
You may have a good point Safwd, However I know that mmorpg will delete post that get out of hand and will probably do the same for NDA breakers, after all i'm sure all the game companies pay the bill for this site, its all part of MARKETING.
I guess my quest has ended, they have all angles covered, were not gonna get anything good or bad.
I just can't get into 20 web sites of exclusive features until I even know if able is REALLY able to pull it off, in both content and release dates.
You are asking information from people who have zero right to give it at this point, and ignoring the information provided by those who can. If you feel you don't trust the developers, read up on one of the third party reviews that have been released, hell, go talk to AmazingAvery on this same website who won a trip to the Funcom offices in Norway and came back with tons of exclusive info.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
Why do you use capital letters for the word marketing?
Because we are only getting info from the Developers of AoC, and with there release of information you will only get the positaves and no negatives strictly one sided, and thats what this post is all about MARKETING.
It can just as easly be a flop as it can be good. Just trying to get some intel. on the game but nothing just a lot of people pushing into a post with nothing to add. Goes to show that people just have to argue on this site even with no answers, this post should not have any replies at all.
I think your take on this situation is rather...err, well doomed. Please allow me to explain:
1) You do not trust FC themselves aka, the developers etc. You say they will only release good stuff about their product and so on and so forth (which is right. They are after all a company making a product).
2) You do not trust 3rd party sources like gaming magazines and people like Avery, who have been closer to the game than anyone else outside Beta, for the same reasons as above, because they obviously could only get their info from FC.
3) The only people you apparently would trust, would be violating a contract they agreed to by actually telling you what you want to know. Logically, people who enjoy Beta-Testing and who do it with the best for the game in mind, will not break that contract, because they want to continue testing (seems logical, no?).
That means, more or less the only ones you could possibly get info from (the info you apparently want), would be people who are (for whatever reason) upset with FC/the game, and break the NDA, violating an agreement they made in order to release info on the game.
So, following that logic, isn't it a -good- thing we are not getting leaks etc?
I'm exaggerating. Obviously, there can still be a lot of things wrong with the game and we will only know for sure when it comes out, but seriously, I think you will just have to wait as all of us are, until the NDA is lifted and you can either join the Large-Scale Beta or can review the released game.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7