Amazing Avery his here to promote AoC only, " Avery you have done well as our student, now go out to our public and help us market, be weary of the ones that strike against us, as they try and cause harm to us and our quest to keep information from them, you have a strong weapon to aid you and this weapon is called the NDA use it well my son, Would you like some diciples ? then I will grant you them. Do well my son "
I think that is unfair and very much uncalled for,you only make yourself look foolish now!
I agree. Whether you realize this or not Page, but your actually doing a better positive PR job for AoC than you claim Avery is with posts like this. You've stated your opinion of the game, let it be. Let those of us who are interested in this game formulate our own opinion of the game based on everything we have access to at this point in time. I'm sure most of us are adults and can make our own decisions. There is really no point in what your doing now.
Amazing Avery his here to promote AoC only, " Avery you have done well as our student, now go out to our public and help us market, be weary of the ones that strike against us, as they try and cause harm to us and our quest to keep information from them, you have a strong weapon to aid you and this weapon is called the NDA use it well my son, Would you like some diciples ? then I will grant you them. Do well my son "
That is way over the top. Avery is a good person and doesn't need to be mocked like this.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
Your right sorry everyone, just trying to clean up the board a little, I'll stop now !
No, man, you do not have to stop or anything. We understand you have objections and dislike aspects of the game. Thats cool.... I am glad there are people who dislike stuff that I do. WHat I think many of us were hinting at is to try and post a little more constructive and even provide your opinions and any support for them that you can, that way we can have a discussion.
For instance:
"AOC sucks" - Doesn't get us anywhere. Tell us why and what you are worried about.
"I am worried about AOC because of _______ and ________" - Thats sets up great discussion and many of us may have the same concerns and we can talk about those concerns.
For one, I am worried that Age of Conan may have to restrictive exploration and the combat system may be cluncky. I am not sure if this is the case or I could be very wrong but it is a concern of mine. It doesn't make the game suck but something I am keeping an eye on.
Thats the kind of information/opinion/thoughts we like here and not blanket statements judging a game. I hope that makes sense.
Don't stop the discussion, just don't take it to slamming people on a personal level. Avery is a great guy and has done a lot for the community here with all of his posts. I was in his guild and can tell you that you will be hard pressed to find a person anywhere. While I may disagree with Avery's pro-AoC opinions, I would never degrade him. He is a credit to his guild, MMORPG.com, AoC, and the gaming community as a whole.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
Your right sorry everyone, just trying to clean up the board a little, I'll stop now !
No, man, you do not have to stop or anything. We understand you have objections and dislike aspects of the game. Thats cool.... I am glad there are people who dislike stuff that I do. WHat I think many of us were hinting at is to try and post a little more constructive and even provide your opinions and any support for them that you can, that way we can have a discussion.
For instance:
"AOC sucks" - Doesn't get us anywhere. Tell us why and what you are worried about.
"I am worried about AOC because of _______ and ________" - Thats sets up great discussion and many of us may have the same concerns and we can talk about those concerns.
For one, I am worried that Age of Conan may have to restrictive exploration and the combat system may be cluncky. I am not sure if this is the case or I could be very wrong but it is a concern of mine. It doesn't make the game suck but something I am keeping an eye on.
Thats the kind of information/opinion/thoughts we like here and not blanket statements judging a game. I hope that makes sense.
Don't stop the discussion, just don't take it to slamming people on a personal level. Avery is a great guy and has done a lot for the community here with all of his posts. I was in his guild and can tell you that you will be hard pressed to find a person anywhere. While I may disagree with Avery's pro-AoC opinions, I would never degrade him. He is a credit to his guild, MMORPG.com, AoC, and the gaming community as a whole.
Well it seems everytime someone or myself tries to report legit info that Funcom won't we get bashed for being trolls/temp banned/ or excuses fly u can't judge a beta to the real thing!
The content is solid atm, nothing major is changing in the beta except bugs fixes and small things....whats there is there..open ur eyes and see that!
...oh and Avery really needs to stop with his poster-boy-attitude, if all this beta stuff that keeps getting linked is so wrong, why does he come in and bash so heavily that were wrong in every post!
Kemih ~ 13 Red Mage | Currently playing FFXI & LOTRO, awaiting Warhammer Online & Aion...
Your right sorry everyone, just trying to clean up the board a little, I'll stop now !
No, man, you do not have to stop or anything. We understand you have objections and dislike aspects of the game. Thats cool.... I am glad there are people who dislike stuff that I do. WHat I think many of us were hinting at is to try and post a little more constructive and even provide your opinions and any support for them that you can, that way we can have a discussion.
For instance:
"AOC sucks" - Doesn't get us anywhere. Tell us why and what you are worried about.
"I am worried about AOC because of _______ and ________" - Thats sets up great discussion and many of us may have the same concerns and we can talk about those concerns.
For one, I am worried that Age of Conan may have to restrictive exploration and the combat system may be cluncky. I am not sure if this is the case or I could be very wrong but it is a concern of mine. It doesn't make the game suck but something I am keeping an eye on.
Thats the kind of information/opinion/thoughts we like here and not blanket statements judging a game. I hope that makes sense.
Don't stop the discussion, just don't take it to slamming people on a personal level. Avery is a great guy and has done a lot for the community here with all of his posts. I was in his guild and can tell you that you will be hard pressed to find a person anywhere. While I may disagree with Avery's pro-AoC opinions, I would never degrade him. He is a credit to his guild, MMORPG.com, AoC, and the gaming community as a whole.
Well it seems everytime someone or myself tries to report legit info that Funcom won't we get bashed for being trolls/temp banned/ or excuses fly u can't judge a beta to the real thing!
The content is solid atm, nothing major is changing in the beta except bugs fixes and small things....whats there is there..open ur eyes and see that!
...oh and Avery really needs to stop with his poster-boy-attitude, if all this beta stuff that keeps getting linked is so wrong, why does he come in and bash so heavily that were wrong in every post!
Maybe because if you come here reporting what is wrong in beta it is an NDA violation... just a guess, but that may be his only problem with it.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
Your right sorry everyone, just trying to clean up the board a little, I'll stop now !
No, man, you do not have to stop or anything. We understand you have objections and dislike aspects of the game. Thats cool.... I am glad there are people who dislike stuff that I do. WHat I think many of us were hinting at is to try and post a little more constructive and even provide your opinions and any support for them that you can, that way we can have a discussion.
For instance:
"AOC sucks" - Doesn't get us anywhere. Tell us why and what you are worried about.
"I am worried about AOC because of _______ and ________" - Thats sets up great discussion and many of us may have the same concerns and we can talk about those concerns.
For one, I am worried that Age of Conan may have to restrictive exploration and the combat system may be cluncky. I am not sure if this is the case or I could be very wrong but it is a concern of mine. It doesn't make the game suck but something I am keeping an eye on.
Thats the kind of information/opinion/thoughts we like here and not blanket statements judging a game. I hope that makes sense.
Don't stop the discussion, just don't take it to slamming people on a personal level. Avery is a great guy and has done a lot for the community here with all of his posts. I was in his guild and can tell you that you will be hard pressed to find a person anywhere. While I may disagree with Avery's pro-AoC opinions, I would never degrade him. He is a credit to his guild, MMORPG.com, AoC, and the gaming community as a whole.
Well it seems everytime someone or myself tries to report legit info that Funcom won't we get bashed for being trolls/temp banned/ or excuses fly u can't judge a beta to the real thing!
The content is solid atm, nothing major is changing in the beta except bugs fixes and small things....whats there is there..open ur eyes and see that!
...oh and Avery really needs to stop with his poster-boy-attitude, if all this beta stuff that keeps getting linked is so wrong, why does he come in and bash so heavily that were wrong in every post!
Maybe because if you come here reporting what is wrong in beta it is an NDA violation... just a guess, but that may be his only problem with it.
Nah, doubt it, just doesn't want others to know the facts and truth about the state of the game...
Kemih ~ 13 Red Mage | Currently playing FFXI & LOTRO, awaiting Warhammer Online & Aion...
Apart from that what, matters is that the basic gameplay is bug free. Everything else can be added on a later date. Didn't hurt financially tons of games out there, since the hardcore are a extremely small minority.
Now, if the client is not very responsive and people run into everyday bugs, broken quests etc, that will hurt the game for the casuals. And there is where the damage will be felt.
So ... what about the state of the game? Looks to me they have their priorities straight. Only thing remaining is to see if they can deliver in time. If they delay, no problem, more power to them.
In hind sight I could see that my entire post was quite rude, sometimes it takes a few open minded people to make me understand that.
I will have to admit that I was leaning more in the direction of Warhammer as I feel that better graphics come with a price tag, and graphics are not high on my list, along with the neg. stuff that I had dug for.
This post was NOT originally intended to slam AoC, just a very poor attempt at allowing everyone to be free to have their own opinion. I also have to admit that I was aggravated with post after post of only keeping topics on content.
I'll keep an open mind about AoC and maybe it will turn out ok.
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I think that is unfair and very much uncalled for,you only make yourself look foolish now!
I agree. Whether you realize this or not Page, but your actually doing a better positive PR job for AoC than you claim Avery is with posts like this. You've stated your opinion of the game, let it be. Let those of us who are interested in this game formulate our own opinion of the game based on everything we have access to at this point in time. I'm sure most of us are adults and can make our own decisions. There is really no point in what your doing now.
That is way over the top. Avery is a good person and doesn't need to be mocked like this.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
Your right sorry everyone, just trying to clean up the board a little, I'll stop now !
For instance:
"AOC sucks" - Doesn't get us anywhere. Tell us why and what you are worried about.
"I am worried about AOC because of _______ and ________" - Thats sets up great discussion and many of us may have the same concerns and we can talk about those concerns.
For one, I am worried that Age of Conan may have to restrictive exploration and the combat system may be cluncky. I am not sure if this is the case or I could be very wrong but it is a concern of mine. It doesn't make the game suck but something I am keeping an eye on.
Thats the kind of information/opinion/thoughts we like here and not blanket statements judging a game. I hope that makes sense.
Don't stop the discussion, just don't take it to slamming people on a personal level. Avery is a great guy and has done a lot for the community here with all of his posts. I was in his guild and can tell you that you will be hard pressed to find a person anywhere. While I may disagree with Avery's pro-AoC opinions, I would never degrade him. He is a credit to his guild, MMORPG.com, AoC, and the gaming community as a whole.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
No, man, you do not have to stop or anything. We understand you have objections and dislike aspects of the game. Thats cool.... I am glad there are people who dislike stuff that I do. WHat I think many of us were hinting at is to try and post a little more constructive and even provide your opinions and any support for them that you can, that way we can have a discussion.For instance:
"AOC sucks" - Doesn't get us anywhere. Tell us why and what you are worried about.
"I am worried about AOC because of _______ and ________" - Thats sets up great discussion and many of us may have the same concerns and we can talk about those concerns.
For one, I am worried that Age of Conan may have to restrictive exploration and the combat system may be cluncky. I am not sure if this is the case or I could be very wrong but it is a concern of mine. It doesn't make the game suck but something I am keeping an eye on.
Thats the kind of information/opinion/thoughts we like here and not blanket statements judging a game. I hope that makes sense.
Don't stop the discussion, just don't take it to slamming people on a personal level. Avery is a great guy and has done a lot for the community here with all of his posts. I was in his guild and can tell you that you will be hard pressed to find a person anywhere. While I may disagree with Avery's pro-AoC opinions, I would never degrade him. He is a credit to his guild, MMORPG.com, AoC, and the gaming community as a whole.
Well it seems everytime someone or myself tries to report legit info that Funcom won't we get bashed for being trolls/temp banned/ or excuses fly u can't judge a beta to the real thing!
The content is solid atm, nothing major is changing in the beta except bugs fixes and small things....whats there is there..open ur eyes and see that!
...oh and Avery really needs to stop with his poster-boy-attitude, if all this beta stuff that keeps getting linked is so wrong, why does he come in and bash so heavily that were wrong in every post!
Kemih ~ 13 Red Mage | Currently playing FFXI & LOTRO, awaiting Warhammer Online & Aion...
For instance:
"AOC sucks" - Doesn't get us anywhere. Tell us why and what you are worried about.
"I am worried about AOC because of _______ and ________" - Thats sets up great discussion and many of us may have the same concerns and we can talk about those concerns.
For one, I am worried that Age of Conan may have to restrictive exploration and the combat system may be cluncky. I am not sure if this is the case or I could be very wrong but it is a concern of mine. It doesn't make the game suck but something I am keeping an eye on.
Thats the kind of information/opinion/thoughts we like here and not blanket statements judging a game. I hope that makes sense.
Don't stop the discussion, just don't take it to slamming people on a personal level. Avery is a great guy and has done a lot for the community here with all of his posts. I was in his guild and can tell you that you will be hard pressed to find a person anywhere. While I may disagree with Avery's pro-AoC opinions, I would never degrade him. He is a credit to his guild, MMORPG.com, AoC, and the gaming community as a whole.
Well it seems everytime someone or myself tries to report legit info that Funcom won't we get bashed for being trolls/temp banned/ or excuses fly u can't judge a beta to the real thing!
The content is solid atm, nothing major is changing in the beta except bugs fixes and small things....whats there is there..open ur eyes and see that!
...oh and Avery really needs to stop with his poster-boy-attitude, if all this beta stuff that keeps getting linked is so wrong, why does he come in and bash so heavily that were wrong in every post!
Maybe because if you come here reporting what is wrong in beta it is an NDA violation... just a guess, but that may be his only problem with it.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
For instance:
"AOC sucks" - Doesn't get us anywhere. Tell us why and what you are worried about.
"I am worried about AOC because of _______ and ________" - Thats sets up great discussion and many of us may have the same concerns and we can talk about those concerns.
For one, I am worried that Age of Conan may have to restrictive exploration and the combat system may be cluncky. I am not sure if this is the case or I could be very wrong but it is a concern of mine. It doesn't make the game suck but something I am keeping an eye on.
Thats the kind of information/opinion/thoughts we like here and not blanket statements judging a game. I hope that makes sense.
Don't stop the discussion, just don't take it to slamming people on a personal level. Avery is a great guy and has done a lot for the community here with all of his posts. I was in his guild and can tell you that you will be hard pressed to find a person anywhere. While I may disagree with Avery's pro-AoC opinions, I would never degrade him. He is a credit to his guild, MMORPG.com, AoC, and the gaming community as a whole.
Well it seems everytime someone or myself tries to report legit info that Funcom won't we get bashed for being trolls/temp banned/ or excuses fly u can't judge a beta to the real thing!
The content is solid atm, nothing major is changing in the beta except bugs fixes and small things....whats there is there..open ur eyes and see that!
...oh and Avery really needs to stop with his poster-boy-attitude, if all this beta stuff that keeps getting linked is so wrong, why does he come in and bash so heavily that were wrong in every post!
Maybe because if you come here reporting what is wrong in beta it is an NDA violation... just a guess, but that may be his only problem with it.
Nah, doubt it, just doesn't want others to know the facts and truth about the state of the game...
Kemih ~ 13 Red Mage | Currently playing FFXI & LOTRO, awaiting Warhammer Online & Aion...
My honest opinion is that multi-quotes suck ...
Apart from that what, matters is that the basic gameplay is bug free. Everything else can be added on a later date. Didn't hurt financially tons of games out there, since the hardcore are a extremely small minority.
Now, if the client is not very responsive and people run into everyday bugs, broken quests etc, that will hurt the game for the casuals. And there is where the damage will be felt.
So ... what about the state of the game? Looks to me they have their priorities straight. Only thing remaining is to see if they can deliver in time. If they delay, no problem, more power to them.
Thanks Tempharga and Shannia
In hind sight I could see that my entire post was quite rude, sometimes it takes a few open minded people to make me understand that.
I will have to admit that I was leaning more in the direction of Warhammer as I feel that better graphics come with a price tag, and graphics are not high on my list, along with the neg. stuff that I had dug for.
This post was NOT originally intended to slam AoC, just a very poor attempt at allowing everyone to be free to have their own opinion. I also have to admit that I was aggravated with post after post of only keeping topics on content.
I'll keep an open mind about AoC and maybe it will turn out ok.
I could almost cry
EDIT: I give up.