Although I could be wrong, I think ad's will be a no show at launch.
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Had I the heavens' embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.
The answer to my question clearly demonstrates that there is zero evidence to substantiate your claim. In other words, the "now we know the real reason why Funcom delayed the game" is pure and utter nonsense. In reality, both you and us are not any wiser today that we were before this thread was made.
You did not present an opinion. Or a hypothesis. You presented a fact. You attempted to back up this fact with evidence. The evidence are non existent. Case closed.
That been said,
If the title of this thread was "Funcom may include adds in AoC in some form", I would had agreed with you that it would have been an extremely bad idea to do so in a subscription based game. However, that was neither the title, nor the intent of the thread.
This thread is pointless.
AmazingAveryAge of Conan AdvocateMemberUncommonPosts: 7,188
I have the same opinion about this thread as I do about the thread that was made about Funcom delaying the game because of simultaneous release of the Xbox360 version. Utter Nonsense..
With all do respect, the proof you seek was here on the forums for all to see. The mods decided that a screen shot of the AoC EULA was an NDA violation and removed said thread. It is not my fault that the proof you seek was removed from the site. When I first posted this thread, the proof was there. Some searching on the web and you can find the said proof for yourself. I'm not going to put links here to stuff I know they've already removed.
Shannia
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
I don't dispute that the entry in the EULA is there. Thus I do worry that EIDOS might push for advertising in a subscription game. In the same manner EA pushed for it in HG:L and might do the same in WAR.
But you claimed that the online advertisement deal/ entry to EULA, was the reason behind the delay. You might be right. You might be wrong. But given the evidence you presented, noone can tell anything besides that there is an entry in the EULA that permits the use of online advertisement if they so wish at some point. You claimed that this entry and the deal behind it was the reason behind the delay. No evidence to back this claim were presented, that's all I'm saying. You may have a gut feeling and that's acceptable. But you presented it as facts, and that is not acceptable.
I am sorry if I offended you. You are correct that it is my assumption. Going forward, I will be sure to make things more clear that it is my assumptions and opinions. The only way that my claims would be facts is if I worked for Funcom or EIDOS and knew for sure what was about to happen and that just isn't the case.
Again, I apologize for confusing/misrepresenting the title of my thread as a fact rather then my opinion.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
Xasapis, With all do respect, the proof you seek was here on the forums for all to see. The mods decided that a screen shot of the AoC EULA was an NDA violation and removed said thread. It is not my fault that the proof you seek was removed from the site. When I first posted this thread, the proof was there. Some searching on the web and you can find the said proof for yourself. I'm not going to put links here to stuff I know they've already removed. Shannia
He asked for proof on that being the reason for the delayed release.
Xasapis, With all do respect, the proof you seek was here on the forums for all to see. The mods decided that a screen shot of the AoC EULA was an NDA violation and removed said thread. It is not my fault that the proof you seek was removed from the site. When I first posted this thread, the proof was there. Some searching on the web and you can find the said proof for yourself. I'm not going to put links here to stuff I know they've already removed. Shannia
He asked for proof on that being the reason for the delayed release.
Difference between proof and opinions. My mistake. Read the post above yours. I apologized for my wording.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
I don't think this has to do with the delay, the game wasn't ready and needed more work. Wich is better for us, the playerbase.
______________________________ The Sceptics, yes they're special but we've need them to.. I guess. And if they're put more effort MMORPG.com can create a 'Team Sceptic' and send them to the Special Olympus.
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Although I could be wrong, I think ad's will be a no show at launch.
~ ~
Had I the heavens' embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.
To Shannia :
The answer to my question clearly demonstrates that there is zero evidence to substantiate your claim. In other words, the "now we know the real reason why Funcom delayed the game" is pure and utter nonsense. In reality, both you and us are not any wiser today that we were before this thread was made.
You did not present an opinion. Or a hypothesis. You presented a fact. You attempted to back up this fact with evidence. The evidence are non existent. Case closed.
That been said,
If the title of this thread was "Funcom may include adds in AoC in some form", I would had agreed with you that it would have been an extremely bad idea to do so in a subscription based game. However, that was neither the title, nor the intent of the thread.
This thread is pointless.
I have the same opinion about this thread as I do about the thread that was made about Funcom delaying the game because of simultaneous release of the Xbox360 version. Utter Nonsense..
Xasapis,
With all do respect, the proof you seek was here on the forums for all to see. The mods decided that a screen shot of the AoC EULA was an NDA violation and removed said thread. It is not my fault that the proof you seek was removed from the site. When I first posted this thread, the proof was there. Some searching on the web and you can find the said proof for yourself. I'm not going to put links here to stuff I know they've already removed.
Shannia
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
I don't dispute that the entry in the EULA is there. Thus I do worry that EIDOS might push for advertising in a subscription game. In the same manner EA pushed for it in HG:L and might do the same in WAR.
But you claimed that the online advertisement deal/ entry to EULA, was the reason behind the delay. You might be right. You might be wrong. But given the evidence you presented, noone can tell anything besides that there is an entry in the EULA that permits the use of online advertisement if they so wish at some point. You claimed that this entry and the deal behind it was the reason behind the delay. No evidence to back this claim were presented, that's all I'm saying. You may have a gut feeling and that's acceptable. But you presented it as facts, and that is not acceptable.
I am sorry if I offended you. You are correct that it is my assumption. Going forward, I will be sure to make things more clear that it is my assumptions and opinions. The only way that my claims would be facts is if I worked for Funcom or EIDOS and knew for sure what was about to happen and that just isn't the case.
Again, I apologize for confusing/misrepresenting the title of my thread as a fact rather then my opinion.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
Difference between proof and opinions. My mistake. Read the post above yours. I apologized for my wording.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
I don't think this has to do with the delay, the game wasn't ready and needed more work. Wich is better for us, the playerbase.
______________________________
The Sceptics, yes they're special but we've need them to.. I guess.
And if they're put more effort MMORPG.com can create a 'Team Sceptic'
and send them to the Special Olympus.
No, it is not the real reason to delay the game. Don't be so dammed dramatic.
Regal
Have you nothing better to do than start bullshit rumors?