2. You are incapable of playing WoW without addons, and thus load your comp with crap.
It's your own darned fault, I've been playing WoW since launch, never been hacked, every one I KNOW that has been hacked had one of the two above causes for their being hacked.
Greed, or lack of skills.
In case u dont know MR iplaywithoutaddonsleetzors, in End Game guilds such as mine, u're obligated to have atleast 3 essential addons. to manage your aggro mostly. my performance in a raid must be maximized in all ways, and well normally add-ons are necessary for it.
btw my trojan came from P2P.
Yeah, you NEED programs, you choose to put them on to make the game EASIER for you. I've raided, look my gnome up Veldaren, perenolde.
So anyway, everyone of my friends that got a keylogger, got it from those "neccassary add ons to raid".
Way to go noobs. I still play like back in the day, EQ old school, no aggro meters, you played with skill, not based on a bar that TOLD you what was going on.
On the bright side...Well... at least EQ is a better game now :P
But seriously you cannot really raid seriously with at least certain addons. If you try to argue with that you're clueless, I'm sorry.
You CAN raid, you just get harrassed constantly by the gamers taht cannot play the game without crutches. OMG what is your aggro, I don't know what to do!!!!
Out of curiosity, how far did you go with WoW raiding ?
SSC. I quit Alliance because the Wife and her sis switched to Horde to escape the idiots we were encountering. So I am.. 61 with a Belf mage.
He problably just gone trough Molten Core or something ...
Meh.. u cant play WoW PvE raiding without this 2 essential addons.
Deadly boss Mods. Ktm or Omen.
If u are a healer than u need 1-2 more imperative addon. and no u cannot raid without them, if u say u can, u are totatlly clueless about the game u played. There's no endgame raider, that can call himself good in doing his jod, that doesn't use a minimal package of addons.
WRONG!
Full Kara, Gruuls and we had entered SSC when I, ina fit of "WTF?" Quit the guild and joined the Wife on Horde. Teh guild leader was... well soft on "girls" so teh gals running with us were causing no end of drama. I got sick of sitting out Prince (I jsut wanted my helm damn it) and got told to wait for the 5th time because "She really wants a few more tries"
2. You are incapable of playing WoW without addons, and thus load your comp with crap.
It's your own darned fault, I've been playing WoW since launch, never been hacked, every one I KNOW that has been hacked had one of the two above causes for their being hacked.
Greed, or lack of skills.
About 6 months or longer, Microsoft Internet Explorer had a flaw that allowed hackers to use other websites such as MMORPG.com to transmit a trojan to computers.
My computer was hit and my main was wiped out clean. Fortunatly, I belonged to a great guild who got me some equipment and gold to get me through while Blizzard investigated the hack. I read up about the IE flaw and switched to Firefox.
So, just going to gold farmers or addons are not the ONLY way to get a trojan keylogger. It wasn't the OP fault as you yourself can not pinpoint the cause of how he got the trojan.
Will you have a clue what's exactly going on or being as efficient as you can be ? No.
I main tanked and guild mastered and trust me KTM (or any other threat meter) was and still is a must if you wanna see who doesn't know how to DPS properly and gets aggro or he's just AFK leeching not doing enough DPS.
Depends on how far you wanna monitor your raid for efficiency or detecting mistakes + solving them.
I really wonder why would anyone stress themselves in pointless wipes cause they don't use boss timers so they can coordinate to avoid a wipe due to a special ability.
This can only lead to 2 possible conclusions:
a) You have mazochistic tendencies (as a person or a guild)
b) You really don't mind spending 2x the time at a boss just cause you refuse to use raiding addons
Raiding without addons is possible and not absurd at all. Especially if you come from an Everquest raiding background, - no threat meters there. You had no way of knowing how far up the aggro list you were. I know a lot of people that came from EQ on my server.
And to be honest it's often pretty easy to know if you're doing too much aggro, especially with experience.
There are many times when I have raided without addons especially just after a patch. Omen was broken after 2.4 - the latest version was bugged.
Still waiting for your Holy Grail MMORPG? Interesting...
2. You are incapable of playing WoW without addons, and thus load your comp with crap.
It's your own darned fault, I've been playing WoW since launch, never been hacked, every one I KNOW that has been hacked had one of the two above causes for their being hacked.
Greed, or lack of skills.
About 6 months or longer, Microsoft Internet Explorer had a flaw that allowed hackers to use other websites such as MMORPG.com to transmit a trojan to computers.
My computer was hit and my main was wiped out clean. Fortunatly, I belonged to a great guild who got me some equipment and gold to get me through while Blizzard investigated the hack. I read up about the IE flaw and switched to Firefox.
So, just going to gold farmers or addons are not the ONLY way to get a trojan keylogger. It wasn't the OP fault as you yourself can not pinpoint the cause of how he got the trojan.
PSST!
Use Mozilla Firefox. Never get scammed again.
reread what I posted. And the word scammed indicates that I applied or bought something and didn't get what was delivered or got the short end of the stick. I neither applied nor bought anything online. The trojan was brought over by visiting this website. It was only after the fact that the trojan hit and was not caught by my virus scanner, that I was wiped out.
I don't use gold sellers and the only add on I use have a track record of being good, such as Auctioneer and Titanbar.
your arguement is so persuasive, so filled with knowledge and insight. You back up your argument very articulately, with suggestions of improvements and raising examples to glorify your position....oh wait, you didn't
He problably just gone trough Molten Core or something ...
Meh.. u cant play WoW PvE raiding without this 2 essential addons.
Deadly boss Mods. Ktm or Omen.
If u are a healer than u need 1-2 more imperative addon. and no u cannot raid without them, if u say u can, u are totatlly clueless about the game u played. There's no endgame raider, that can call himself good in doing his jod, that doesn't use a minimal package of addons.
Not true. People have downed Illidan and bosses in Sunwell without any addons.
Here is the deal. No add-ons are 100% needed to raid. However, more than a few boss encounters are designed around the idea that the mods do exist. Chrommagus and one of the first bosses in Naxx come to mind with decursive being a near must have. Are those encounters possible without the mod? Yes but for the average guild it will end in tragedy. Take a boss like Voidreaver. He is cake as long as you can manage your aggro, if you can't then melee gets destroyed when he runs to ranged, add on the fact that he has an enrage timer so for guilds that are maybe geared just enough to beat him they can't stop and wait for aggro, they have to just DPS.
Mods are made to make things that were annoying easier. Bosses with enrage timers all go against the waiting for aggro. Bosses where timed events happen(Leo human/demon) all go against being modless because without a timer on those things DPS slows down to a crawl or they get murdered. You take away the few mods that are "needed" for raiding and you wont see 75% of the guild progression you do.
As for trojans and stolen accounts. Make sure all of your passwords are different on everything. Guild forums or game forums all have to store your password into a database so if you use the same login info on them the admin can snag them or a hacker. Also using things like adblocker and no script on firefox can help a lot. Never install ANY add-on that is a .exe and don't use the auto-update addon services.
The shadowlab thing is because gold farmers use teleport hacks to get all of the mining/herbs and treasure chests in there then use your account to sell them. Not sure if they sell them cheap to a 3rd account that then sells for the real price or not.
Also! The hackers can't just change the email so you never know unless they have your email hacked as well. Blizzard sends a notification of email change that the current email address has to then varify. Blizzard also sends out emails to notify you if the subscription is changed, personal information is updated/changed, password changed, and for all the different services(char transfer, name change, etc). Your account is near impossible to reactivate without you knowing about it.
Zandalar Tribe: Friendly Hydraxian Warlord: Almost Revered Cenarion Circle: Friendly OH GOD DO I HATE REP GRINDING.
And in TBC from what I see in your gear you probably never went further than Gruul. So pre-TBC you did some ZG runs, some MC runs and some random AQ20 runs... Not enough experience to say that you "don't need addons".
So I'm sorry I ain't convinced you don't need addons to raid. Maybe that's why you never went further. Denying use of addons in fights like e.g Vashj or Kael'thas imho is more towards mazochism than skill.
If you came here with proof of high end raiding and insisted you skipped the addons, if it was true it'll be smthn worthy to mention. Right now it's more like trolling and "addons are for noobs, EQ players do it without any" thread...
I never went further because I QUIT playing her and am now playing on Horde.
As for the OLD instances, by the time I got up and around and desiring to raid (I had a 7 month "off" time when I moved and was without the internets TYVFM) TBC was getting close to releaseing. We had entered BWL and were about 1/2 he way through when... damn no one wanted to raid anymore...
I got hosed in Gruuls for gear, and finally walked away. My Belf Mage is coming along nicely though Doesn't look like an overdone Cabbage Patch Doll
Dude we BEAT MC, I was fully geared in MC gear and about half of my BWL gear when TBC launched...
Wanna talk raiding, talk to me about how you dropped Lady Vox for the first time on your server for the FIRST time ahead of everyone else...
Oh wait... you probably have no clue who that is.
Oh wait... you're an elitist jerk from EQ ?
I know who Lady Vox (also who Nagafen is) is and guess what ? Nobody NEEDS to know who they are. They're bosses in a very old game which laid the course for the future of MMOs. Respected, sure. But that's about it.
I can talk to you how my guild in WoW killed all SSC/TK/MH/BT bosses for the first time on my server and around 6 of them still remain unkillable by the rest. (BT ones).
Sorry to dissapoint you but you ain't as special as you think you are and you are in no way privileged to judge WoW raiding and expect us to believe your gospel.
Also MC/BWL gear on TBC launch wasn't much to brag about regarding raiding btw (you never ever visited AQ40 or Naxx and you probably never cleared BWL either).
Consider that MC was the starter of 40man raids and pretty much trained you in all kinds of tactics to prepare you for the rest...
oh so you're an elitist WoW Raider that considers anyone who hasn't bothered to spend 25 hours a week causal.
I see, that explains the problem here, I bet you play by what the ADD ON you installed TELLS you to do.
No skill, no thought, just "watch for cue, click, wash, rinse repeat"
Thanks guy, but I prefer to put a little effort into the fight, not jsut go through the motion in HOPES my gear drops so I can be .5% more leet then the next guy. Can't wait for WAR to launch, while you PVE heroes are out in WoTLK raiding for gear and grinding for rep in hopes of a gear drop I'll be having fun
Nah I'm not an elitist WoW raider and I'm actually a casual myself now.
I raided before not as hardcore as you think (yeah we did kill Illidan with 3 days of 4 hour raiding a week but we always had the same people.)
I'm not telling you I'm skilled or that even the whole game requires skill.
However a lot of stuff in WoW need addons. The reason is...cause they exist.
Try doing some arena without any buff watching addon or casting bar watch.
Especially in 5v5 things get chaotic for you to manually watch + interrupt stuff (if you have to do it).
If addons are out there and everyone has them, you are disadvantaged.
The problem isn't how me or you wanna play it.
You can do most of the stuff without addons but endgame raiding or high rating arena, you need them.
Or else you're just gimping yourself or your guild. I'm not supporting this style of gaming but not accepting the state of the game is rather foolish.
If you did play even the slightest WoW raiding you'd realise the "click, wait, wash rinse and repeat" is the core of the game, addons or not. Even the most "hardcore" people end up pushing up 3 buttons to optimize their DPS cycle (or spam 1 button to heal your target paladin style).
It actually make the game more interesting if you feed yourself with more information with addons rather than not.
The game is simple in gameplay and punishing in accurate timing and following the encounter step by step (or gear , in gearcheck encounters).
This is why sites like bosskillers exist and everybody does their homework and then raids and gets items.
I did play EQ2 also and the raid encounters aren't more dynamic than WoW unfortunately...
So yeah you'll be waiting the Messiah (WAR) which is probably a WoW clone (Since they wanna steal their thunder they gotta offer the same stuff more or less).
The players unfortunately like WoW and make it so succesful + popular. This equals a lot of money.
Therefore any upcoming MMO wants a share of the money, not to serve any random player who wants to feel as a martyr and being punished by WoW.
This means the new game will resemble WoW in many ways.
The worst thing is, if WAR pulls a lot of people out of WoW it will be the new WoW... Which brings us back to step1.
I only respect EQ2 & LOTRO as it stands cause EQ2 is probably the best MMO out there at the moment and LOTRO cause it did clone WoW, never praised itself as the next best thing (the fanboys did but thats another story) and it created a nice world very similar to WoW's ease of playing but in a different direction.
I noticed a guy sitting next to me in a public computer room. He was filling in another request to get his account unbanned, making up some silly mock story as to why while his friends were laughing at him standing behind him. Seems the ban was perfectly legit but he was still already wasting the mods time with his 3rd unban request.
I can only imagine how much crap time gets wasted by people who get banned legitly that still try to get their stuff back.
Zspawn, I was enjoying reading you post till you tossed out "WoW Clone" that showed you lack much in the way of understanding about WAR and ended any desire I had to read your comments which to that point appeared thoughtful.
Zspawn, I was enjoying reading you post till you tossed out "WoW Clone" that showed you lack much in the way of understanding about WAR and ended any desire I had to read your comments which to that point appeared thoughtful.
Zspawn, I was enjoying reading you post till you tossed out "WoW Clone" that showed you lack much in the way of understanding about WAR and ended any desire I had to read your comments which to that point appeared thoughtful.
It will borrow stuff and you know it.
I'll be pleasantly suprised if it doesn't !
Borrow stuff does not equal clone. If that were the case WoW is an EQ Clone! That's about how silly you sound makeing such a statement.
Are there some similarites.. durr there are going to be, high fantasy RPG are built of the same mold. In this case the origin source material that Blizzard heavily borrowed from has come into it's own so story wise there are elemetns that may seem familiar, but always remember, Blizz stole from Warhammer, not the other way around.
But the differences make the two like night and day are in gameplay, objective and overall presentation.
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In case u dont know MR iplaywithoutaddonsleetzors, in End Game guilds such as mine, u're obligated to have atleast 3 essential addons. to manage your aggro mostly. my performance in a raid must be maximized in all ways, and well normally add-ons are necessary for it.
btw my trojan came from P2P.
Yeah, you NEED programs, you choose to put them on to make the game EASIER for you. I've raided, look my gnome up Veldaren, perenolde.So anyway, everyone of my friends that got a keylogger, got it from those "neccassary add ons to raid".
Way to go noobs. I still play like back in the day, EQ old school, no aggro meters, you played with skill, not based on a bar that TOLD you what was going on.
On the bright side...Well... at least EQ is a better game now :P
But seriously you cannot really raid seriously with at least certain addons. If you try to argue with that you're clueless, I'm sorry.
You CAN raid, you just get harrassed constantly by the gamers taht cannot play the game without crutches. OMG what is your aggro, I don't know what to do!!!!
Out of curiosity, how far did you go with WoW raiding ?
SSC. I quit Alliance because the Wife and her sis switched to Horde to escape the idiots we were encountering. So I am.. 61 with a Belf mage.Always change your signature.
Full Kara, Gruuls and we had entered SSC when I, ina fit of "WTF?" Quit the guild and joined the Wife on Horde. Teh guild leader was... well soft on "girls" so teh gals running with us were causing no end of drama. I got sick of sitting out Prince (I jsut wanted my helm damn it) and got told to wait for the 5th time because "She really wants a few more tries"
Screw that jazz.
Always change your signature.
My computer was hit and my main was wiped out clean. Fortunatly, I belonged to a great guild who got me some equipment and gold to get me through while Blizzard investigated the hack. I read up about the IE flaw and switched to Firefox.
So, just going to gold farmers or addons are not the ONLY way to get a trojan keylogger. It wasn't the OP fault as you yourself can not pinpoint the cause of how he got the trojan.
PSST!Use Mozilla Firefox. Never get scammed again.
Always change your signature.
And what class did you play when raiding SSC ?
It's absolutely possible to raid without addons.
Will you have a clue what's exactly going on or being as efficient as you can be ? No.
I main tanked and guild mastered and trust me KTM (or any other threat meter) was and still is a must if you wanna see who doesn't know how to DPS properly and gets aggro or he's just AFK leeching not doing enough DPS.
Depends on how far you wanna monitor your raid for efficiency or detecting mistakes + solving them.
I really wonder why would anyone stress themselves in pointless wipes cause they don't use boss timers so they can coordinate to avoid a wipe due to a special ability.
This can only lead to 2 possible conclusions:
a) You have mazochistic tendencies (as a person or a guild)
b) You really don't mind spending 2x the time at a boss just cause you refuse to use raiding addons
In my book both are equally sad :P
Raiding without addons is possible and not absurd at all. Especially if you come from an Everquest raiding background, - no threat meters there. You had no way of knowing how far up the aggro list you were. I know a lot of people that came from EQ on my server.
And to be honest it's often pretty easy to know if you're doing too much aggro, especially with experience.
There are many times when I have raided without addons especially just after a patch. Omen was broken after 2.4 - the latest version was bugged.
Still waiting for your Holy Grail MMORPG? Interesting...
My computer was hit and my main was wiped out clean. Fortunatly, I belonged to a great guild who got me some equipment and gold to get me through while Blizzard investigated the hack. I read up about the IE flaw and switched to Firefox.
So, just going to gold farmers or addons are not the ONLY way to get a trojan keylogger. It wasn't the OP fault as you yourself can not pinpoint the cause of how he got the trojan.
PSST!Use Mozilla Firefox. Never get scammed again.
reread what I posted. And the word scammed indicates that I applied or bought something and didn't get what was delivered or got the short end of the stick. I neither applied nor bought anything online. The trojan was brought over by visiting this website. It was only after the fact that the trojan hit and was not caught by my virus scanner, that I was wiped out.
I don't use gold sellers and the only add on I use have a track record of being good, such as Auctioneer and Titanbar.
your arguement is so persuasive, so filled with knowledge and insight. You back up your argument very articulately, with suggestions of improvements and raising examples to glorify your position....oh wait, you didn't
By Scammed I meant you get screwed by losers violating IE.
I played a Mage, her name is VELDAREN, Gnome, Perenolde. go hit the armory...
Always change your signature.
Zandalar Tribe: Friendly
Hydraxian Warlord: Almost Revered
Cenarion Circle: Friendly
And in TBC from what I see in your gear you probably never went further than Gruul.
So pre-TBC you did some ZG runs, some MC runs and some random AQ20 runs...
Not enough experience to say that you "don't need addons".
So I'm sorry I ain't convinced you don't need addons to raid. Maybe that's why you never went further.
Denying use of addons in fights like e.g Vashj or Kael'thas imho is more towards mazochism than skill.
If you came here with proof of high end raiding and insisted you skipped the addons, if it was true it'll be smthn worthy to mention.
Right now it's more like trolling and "addons are for noobs, EQ players do it without any" thread...
Not true. People have downed Illidan and bosses in Sunwell without any addons.
Here is the deal. No add-ons are 100% needed to raid. However, more than a few boss encounters are designed around the idea that the mods do exist. Chrommagus and one of the first bosses in Naxx come to mind with decursive being a near must have. Are those encounters possible without the mod? Yes but for the average guild it will end in tragedy. Take a boss like Voidreaver. He is cake as long as you can manage your aggro, if you can't then melee gets destroyed when he runs to ranged, add on the fact that he has an enrage timer so for guilds that are maybe geared just enough to beat him they can't stop and wait for aggro, they have to just DPS.
Mods are made to make things that were annoying easier. Bosses with enrage timers all go against the waiting for aggro. Bosses where timed events happen(Leo human/demon) all go against being modless because without a timer on those things DPS slows down to a crawl or they get murdered. You take away the few mods that are "needed" for raiding and you wont see 75% of the guild progression you do.
As for trojans and stolen accounts. Make sure all of your passwords are different on everything. Guild forums or game forums all have to store your password into a database so if you use the same login info on them the admin can snag them or a hacker. Also using things like adblocker and no script on firefox can help a lot. Never install ANY add-on that is a .exe and don't use the auto-update addon services.
The shadowlab thing is because gold farmers use teleport hacks to get all of the mining/herbs and treasure chests in there then use your account to sell them. Not sure if they sell them cheap to a 3rd account that then sells for the real price or not.
Also! The hackers can't just change the email so you never know unless they have your email hacked as well. Blizzard sends a notification of email change that the current email address has to then varify. Blizzard also sends out emails to notify you if the subscription is changed, personal information is updated/changed, password changed, and for all the different services(char transfer, name change, etc). Your account is near impossible to reactivate without you knowing about it.
As for the OLD instances, by the time I got up and around and desiring to raid (I had a 7 month "off" time when I moved and was without the internets TYVFM) TBC was getting close to releaseing. We had entered BWL and were about 1/2 he way through when... damn no one wanted to raid anymore...
I got hosed in Gruuls for gear, and finally walked away. My Belf Mage is coming along nicely though
Doesn't look like an overdone Cabbage Patch Doll
Always change your signature.
Reason I was noting this as any even casual raider would know these indicate more or less if you attended ZG / MC or any of small AQs.
So what this shows is you visited ZG & AQ20 couple of times, nothing serious and maybe done 2-3 weeks of MC raiding...
That was the point, you cannot really grind these factions on your own :P
2-3 weeks of MC?
Dude we BEAT MC, I was fully geared in MC gear and about half of my BWL gear when TBC launched...
Wanna talk raiding, talk to me about how you dropped Lady Vox for the first time on your server for the FIRST time ahead of everyone else...
Oh wait... you probably have no clue who that is.
Always change your signature.
Oh wait... you're an elitist jerk from EQ ?
I know who Lady Vox (also who Nagafen is) is and guess what ? Nobody NEEDS to know who they are. They're bosses in a very old game which laid the course for the future of MMOs. Respected, sure. But that's about it.
I can talk to you how my guild in WoW killed all SSC/TK/MH/BT bosses for the first time on my server and around 6 of them still remain unkillable by the rest. (BT ones).
Sorry to dissapoint you but you ain't as special as you think you are and you are in no way privileged to judge WoW raiding and expect us to believe your gospel.
Also MC/BWL gear on TBC launch wasn't much to brag about regarding raiding btw (you never ever visited AQ40 or Naxx and you probably never cleared BWL either).
Consider that MC was the starter of 40man raids and pretty much trained you in all kinds of tactics to prepare you for the rest...
oh so you're an elitist WoW Raider that considers anyone who hasn't bothered to spend 25 hours a week causal.
I see, that explains the problem here, I bet you play by what the ADD ON you installed TELLS you to do.
No skill, no thought, just "watch for cue, click, wash, rinse repeat"
Thanks guy, but I prefer to put a little effort into the fight, not jsut go through the motion in HOPES my gear drops so I can be .5% more leet then the next guy. Can't wait for WAR to launch, while you PVE heroes are out in WoTLK raiding for gear and grinding for rep in hopes of a gear drop I'll be having fun
Always change your signature.
Nah I'm not an elitist WoW raider and I'm actually a casual myself now.
I raided before not as hardcore as you think (yeah we did kill Illidan with 3 days of 4 hour raiding a week but we always had the same people.)
I'm not telling you I'm skilled or that even the whole game requires skill.
However a lot of stuff in WoW need addons. The reason is...cause they exist.
Try doing some arena without any buff watching addon or casting bar watch.
Especially in 5v5 things get chaotic for you to manually watch + interrupt stuff (if you have to do it).
If addons are out there and everyone has them, you are disadvantaged.
The problem isn't how me or you wanna play it.
You can do most of the stuff without addons but endgame raiding or high rating arena, you need them.
Or else you're just gimping yourself or your guild. I'm not supporting this style of gaming but not accepting the state of the game is rather foolish.
If you did play even the slightest WoW raiding you'd realise the "click, wait, wash rinse and repeat" is the core of the game, addons or not. Even the most "hardcore" people end up pushing up 3 buttons to optimize their DPS cycle (or spam 1 button to heal your target paladin style).
It actually make the game more interesting if you feed yourself with more information with addons rather than not.
The game is simple in gameplay and punishing in accurate timing and following the encounter step by step (or gear , in gearcheck encounters).
This is why sites like bosskillers exist and everybody does their homework and then raids and gets items.
I did play EQ2 also and the raid encounters aren't more dynamic than WoW unfortunately...
So yeah you'll be waiting the Messiah (WAR) which is probably a WoW clone (Since they wanna steal their thunder they gotta offer the same stuff more or less).
The players unfortunately like WoW and make it so succesful + popular. This equals a lot of money.
Therefore any upcoming MMO wants a share of the money, not to serve any random player who wants to feel as a martyr and being punished by WoW.
This means the new game will resemble WoW in many ways.
The worst thing is, if WAR pulls a lot of people out of WoW it will be the new WoW... Which brings us back to step1.
I only respect EQ2 & LOTRO as it stands cause EQ2 is probably the best MMO out there at the moment and LOTRO cause it did clone WoW, never praised itself as the next best thing (the fanboys did but thats another story) and it created a nice world very similar to WoW's ease of playing but in a different direction.
Yes I played both of these extensively.
I noticed a guy sitting next to me in a public computer room. He was filling in another request to get his account unbanned, making up some silly mock story as to why while his friends were laughing at him standing behind him. Seems the ban was perfectly legit but he was still already wasting the mods time with his 3rd unban request.
I can only imagine how much crap time gets wasted by people who get banned legitly that still try to get their stuff back.
Zspawn, I was enjoying reading you post till you tossed out "WoW Clone" that showed you lack much in the way of understanding about WAR and ended any desire I had to read your comments which to that point appeared thoughtful.
Always change your signature.
It will borrow stuff and you know it.
I'll be pleasantly suprised if it doesn't !
It will borrow stuff and you know it.
I'll be pleasantly suprised if it doesn't !
Borrow stuff does not equal clone. If that were the case WoW is an EQ Clone! That's about how silly you sound makeing such a statement.Are there some similarites.. durr there are going to be, high fantasy RPG are built of the same mold. In this case the origin source material that Blizzard heavily borrowed from has come into it's own so story wise there are elemetns that may seem familiar, but always remember, Blizz stole from Warhammer, not the other way around.
But the differences make the two like night and day are in gameplay, objective and overall presentation.
Always change your signature.