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Aragon100
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NDA is still in, no date for open beta. Will it be a lag-feast? Will my computer handle the graphics or do i need to buy a new one?
Very little information about the game. Will i be able to try it out before they send my preorder box to me?
If the game dont live up to the hype will you as a preordering customer feel cheated?
And what negative impact will that have to the MMORPG genre?
Is Funcoms treatment of their customers hurting the MMORPG genre?
Are Funcom ripping preordering customers of their hard earned money by not delivering enough information?
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I feel fine...
I did the pre-order a few weeks back and I am very happy. The thing is AoC will run on almost any rig. It's been proven in BETA. Now I will say that to get the most out of the game from a visual standpoint, the better your rig the more enjoyment you will have.
In the end, you can still have fun playing one badass game no matter what you are running. So don't worry, you will be slicing off the heads of your enemies in no time!
Is this a troll atempt?
Although I dont like AoC this is well.. making people pissed :P
And about the negativ inpact in the genre, well I think it wont have any impact on the genre.
I did the pre-order a few weeks back and I am very happy. The thing is AoC will run on almost any rig. It's been proven in BETA. Now I will say that to get the most out of the game from a visual standpoint, the better your rig the more enjoyment you will have.
In the end, you can still have fun playing one badass game no matter what you are running.
It will run on every rig you say? Can you give me a quote on that?
Will it run on best possible graphics?
Will it run when you have +200 players onscreen? I havent seen any video of that yet, have you?
As long as there is NDA in place, I don't think anything can be said to be "proven" about the game. Only when actual players get the freedom to tell of their experiences, we can really say that something's been proven.
But with that said, I think it's just incredible stupidity for anyone who is not on the beta to go and preorder a game that is under NDA. If they want to purchase their game without knowing anything about it, they shouldn't be the ones to complain.
Only if Funcom doesn't release the NDA at all, and doesn't allow players to have those preorder advantages without risking and buying product they know nothing about, then Funcom is trying to cheat their customers.
Ok, lets make up a scenario.
Lets say that the game dont live up to the hype they created.
Do you think it will be something good for the MMORPG genre?
Selling so many pre-orders without enough info on the game is unethical to me. Its selling something most dont have a clue of. Its ripping them off if game dont deliver to the hi expectations. Its not playing with open cards.
2. What are you talking about? There is alot of information available for this game.
3. No, because I could have waited 2 months after release to get people's opinions.
4. Probably none.
5. What bad treatment? Again, what are you talking about?
6. Again, there is alot of information available, if you cannot take the time to look around a little maybe this game is a little too difficult for you.
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I did the pre-order a few weeks back and I am very happy. The thing is AoC will run on almost any rig. It's been proven in BETA. Now I will say that to get the most out of the game from a visual standpoint, the better your rig the more enjoyment you will have.
In the end, you can still have fun playing one badass game no matter what you are running.
It will run on every rig you say? Can you give me a quote on that?
Will it run on best possible graphics?
Will it run when you have +200 players onscreen? I havent seen any video of that yet, have you?
lol...
Read my post again my little troll. I clealy state almost any rig. I don't purpose you attempt to load AoC onto your Commodore 64. But al the same nice try!
Troll?? Im no troll. Im discussing Age of Conan, Funcom. Lets say im not that hyped as you is but i think my questions is very accurate.
And you is telling me it will run on any rig? You mean i should just take your word for it?=)
But with that said, I think it's just incredible stupidity for anyone who is not on the beta to go and preorder a game that is under NDA. If they want to purchase their game without knowing anything about it, they shouldn't be the ones to complain.
Only if Funcom doesn't release the NDA at all, and doesn't allow players to have those preorder advantages without risking and buying product they know nothing about, then Funcom is trying to cheat their customers.
Agree. Seems to me that this isnt discussed as it should be and that why this thread were created.
Theres alot more to ask of Funcom then they provide.
Remove the NDA and open up beta to anyone that preordered the game so they can try out before they make a decision they want it.
There is information about minimum and recommended spec's for Age of Conan...All you need is there..
And if and only if the game doesn't run on those spec's you will have reason to complain...
Why do you think you SHOULD be able to try it BEFORE the preorder box arrives ?
Why would you feel cheated if the game doesn't live up to the hype..aren't you part of the hype yourself ?
A PRE order is a PRE order, it's an order for a product that isn't released YET..and If you worry to much, then why don't you just cancel and wait a couple of months and play it AFTER release..
/junker
he never said it would run well :P
age of conan is my new love btw.
I did the pre-order a few weeks back and I am very happy. The thing is AoC will run on almost any rig. It's been proven in BETA. Now I will say that to get the most out of the game from a visual standpoint, the better your rig the more enjoyment you will have.
In the end, you can still have fun playing one badass game no matter what you are running.
It will run on every rig you say? Can you give me a quote on that?
Will it run on best possible graphics?
Will it run when you have +200 players onscreen? I havent seen any video of that yet, have you?
lol...
Read my post again my little troll. I clealy state almost any rig. I don't purpose you attempt to load AoC onto your Commodore 64. But al the same nice try!
Troll?? Im no troll. Im discussing Age of Conan, Funcom. Lets say im not that hyped as you is but i think my questions is very accurate.
And you is telling me it will run on any rig? You mean i should just take your word for it?=)
/face palm
*deep breath* *sigh*
I NEVER said ANY rig...I said ALMOST any rig...please read, before you spam.
I feel fine...I did the pre-order a few weeks back and I am very happy. The thing is AoC will run on almost any rig. It's been proven in BETA. Now I will say that to get the most out of the game from a visual standpoint, the better your rig the more enjoyment you will have.
In the end, you can still have fun playing one badass game no matter what you are running.
It will run on every rig you say? Can you give me a quote on that?
Will it run on best possible graphics?
Will it run when you have +200 players onscreen? I havent seen any video of that yet, have you?
The NDA is stil in for a reason, they are still patching it. The game hasn't reached "Open Beta" status.....yet. It wouldn't surprise me if Open Beta was announced in the next 2 weeks.
As for the hype. Hype is ALWAYS far greater than what the game can deliver due to people having differing expectations. That's not necessarily the faulty of Funcom and it applies to many games *cough* Vanguard *cough*.
There is plenty of info on the game, the dev blog vids go into detail on various aspects. But a potential players thirst won't be satisfied untill you actually play it.
Will it be a lag fest? Depends on whats going on around the player and how well the engine copes. But this isn't specific to AoC. That applies to ALL MMO's. Trying a game "blind" (so to speak) is all part of the experience of buying a computer game. One cannot expect Funcom to have a trial straight from launch day as they are a company after all, a company who from launch day has to start re-couping its development costs. That's the way of the world.
Will it run well with 200+ players on the screen? Is there a scenario when AoC is EXPECTED to have 200+ players on the screen? Probably not. But will it run well in a raid / siege scenario ? No one knows until the NDA is lifted.
So, in the end, will I feel cheated if it doesn't live up to standards? No. I'll just chalk it up to yet another MMO designer biting off more than they can chew and look to a new MMO.
Now if you want to believe the specs listed on the site:
http://community.ageofconan.com
1.10 What sort of PC is required to play Age of Conan?
Required
OS: Windows Vista/XP
Processor: 3GHz Pentium IV
RAM: 1GB RAM
Video Card: Shader Model 2.0 and 128MB ram, nVidia GeForce 6600
Recommended
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz (E6600) or better
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GTX or better
RAM: 2GB or more
Enhanced for: DirectX 10, 64-bit processors, multi-core
Supports Parental Controls on Windows Vista
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Ok, lets make up a scenario.
Lets say that the game dont live up to the hype they created.
Do you think it will be something good for the MMORPG genre?
Selling so many pre-orders without enough info on the game is unethical to me. Its selling something most dont have a clue of. Its ripping them off if game dont deliver to the hi expectations. Its not playing with open cards.
It's just a scenario. Why is it worth discussing?
I see you in me
2. What are you talking about? There is alot of information available for this game.
3. No, because I could have waited 2 months after release to get people's opinions.
4. Probably none.
5. What bad treatment? Again, what are you talking about?
6. Again, there is alot of information available, if you cannot take the time to look around a little maybe this game is a little too difficult for you.
1. Wasnt it for the first 15000? And is this a chance to play the whole game or just a part of it? Is NDA still in this gamespot try-out?
2. There is alot of rumours arround and very little information from players that played the game cause of NDA
3. Of course you can wait 2 months but seriously do you think a kid that gone through that Funcom hype will wait?
4. If they dont open up on NDA and make a open beta for everyone and game fails id say it hurt the MMORPG genre.
5. Selling zillions of boxes on hype and reveling very little about the game in closed beta cause of NDA and still no open beta is as i see it bad treatment from Funcom. If game not live up to hype many will feel cheated.
6. There is alot of info on beta-leaks sites that tell us alot about Age of Conan that isnt the Funcom version of the game. This is a bit troublesome if the leaks and the Funcom info dont match the slightest
But with that said, I think it's just incredible stupidity for anyone who is not on the beta to go and preorder a game that is under NDA. If they want to purchase their game without knowing anything about it, they shouldn't be the ones to complain.
Only if Funcom doesn't release the NDA at all, and doesn't allow players to have those preorder advantages without risking and buying product they know nothing about, then Funcom is trying to cheat their customers.
Agree. Seems to me that this isnt discussed as it should be and that why this thread were created.
Theres alot more to ask of Funcom then they provide.
Remove the NDA and open up beta to anyone that preordered the game so they can try out before they make a decision they want it.
I think you're getting a little confused here. Open Beta isn't the same as opening up the servers for Pre-order people. Open Beta usually comes first, there is no auto invites to it. You still have to apply and get invited. This is on the test servers. THEN about a few days before launch day, the LAUNCH servers are switched on for those who purchased the pre-order. As detailed on Play.com:
Pre-Order Bonuses: (Instructions will sent on how to get your pre-order bonuses shortly before release)Free in-game War Rhino Mount, exclusive to Play.com
3-day early access to the game
8 extra inventory slots
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Cheated? I personally feel fine. I think Funcom has done a decent job of keeping the fan base informed. I'm just glad they arn't like those tools over at Adventurine. They have cheated their player base.......for years now.
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Is money really hard earned these days?
Contrary to what you think Open Beta is not just a way for players to try out the game for free. It's invariably a stress test first and foremost. Yes, developers use it as a marketing tool. But officially its still in test stage. So in theory, they could pull the plug even at this stage if they found problems with the game. They have a right to do so.
Funcom are not doing anything unethical here. It's the same what SOE and others have done now for a number of years. Its THEIR product. We (the potential audience) don't automatically have a god-given right to demand to be in an Open Beta whenever we want prior to buying the game. Its the same with any product you buy. You buy it in good faith that it will fullfill your needs and requirements.
Funcom are not the first to keep an NDA in place up until launch day or immediately before Open Beta stage.
No, if AoC bombs it won't hurt the genre at all. In fact it will help it. Devs will learn from Funcom's mistakes. As devs did when Vanguard was released. As they did when WoW was released (for different reasons though).
If you want to look after your money, you wait (like the rest of us) to see when the NDA is lifted and what people have to say about it. If you buy it BEFORE that happens well that's your own choice and no one forced you.
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Dude!
It's just $100.00 bucks. If you are this worried, why don't you cancel your Pre-Order?
There is information about minimum and recommended spec's for Age of Conan...All you need is there..
And if and only if the game doesn't run on those spec's you will have reason to complain...
Why do you think you SHOULD be able to try it BEFORE the preorder box arrives ?
Why would you feel cheated if the game doesn't live up to the hype..aren't you part of the hype yourself ?
A PRE order is a PRE order, it's an order for a product that isn't released YET..and If you worry to much, then why don't you just cancel and wait a couple of months and play it AFTER release..
/junker
Oh ok then all is as it should be then?
It never striked you that keeping the NDA is a Funcom way to keep all the pre-ordering guys thats unaware of any problem game has? And add a no open beta too that and you get alot of "hush, hush".
Let people know how those specifications works with epic scaled battles with +200 players on your screen before they get their preordered box home. Saying it works like this and that isnt informing us that it will work in hardest demanding situations? Will it be unplayable? A lagfeast?
If a game company hype a game as Funcom does then its just right they let people play it before they get their pre-order home. Thats how i see on the situation. If they keep NDA and no open beta its a way to sell alot of game boxes on the created hype.
Many kids will continoue to live on there hype even if nothing more is revealed about the game before release and they will not cancel there pre-order on today information, or rather lack of it.
But with that said, I think it's just incredible stupidity for anyone who is not on the beta to go and preorder a game that is under NDA. If they want to purchase their game without knowing anything about it, they shouldn't be the ones to complain.
Only if Funcom doesn't release the NDA at all, and doesn't allow players to have those preorder advantages without risking and buying product they know nothing about, then Funcom is trying to cheat their customers.
Agree. Seems to me that this isnt discussed as it should be and that why this thread were created.
Theres alot more to ask of Funcom then they provide.
Remove the NDA and open up beta to anyone that preordered the game so they can try out before they make a decision they want it.
I think you're getting a little confused here. Open Beta isn't the same as opening up the servers for Pre-order people. Open Beta usually comes first, there is no auto invites to it. You still have to apply and get invited. This is on the test servers. THEN about a few days before launch day, the LAUNCH servers are switched on for those who purchased the pre-order. As detailed on Play.com:
Pre-Order Bonuses: (Instructions will sent on how to get your pre-order bonuses shortly before release)Free in-game War Rhino Mount, exclusive to Play.com
3-day early access to the game
8 extra inventory slots
So if there is no open beta for everyone they that pre-ordered the game wont have a chance to try it out and cancel there pre-order before its shipped to them?
If so its buying something on hype and with little experience if the game is something for you.
There is information about minimum and recommended spec's for Age of Conan...All you need is there..
And if and only if the game doesn't run on those spec's you will have reason to complain...
Why do you think you SHOULD be able to try it BEFORE the preorder box arrives ?
Why would you feel cheated if the game doesn't live up to the hype..aren't you part of the hype yourself ?
A PRE order is a PRE order, it's an order for a product that isn't released YET..and If you worry to much, then why don't you just cancel and wait a couple of months and play it AFTER release..
/junker
Oh ok then all is as it should be then?
It never striked you that keeping the NDA is a Funcom way to keep all the pre-ordering guys thats unaware of any problem game has? And add a no open beta too that and you get alot of "hush, hush".
Let people know how those specifications works with epic scaled battles with +200 players on your screen before they get their preordered box home. Saying it works like this and that isnt informing us that it will work in hardest demanding situations? Will it be unplayable? A lagfeast?
If a game company hype a game as Funcom does then its just right they let people play it before they get their pre-order home. Thats how i see on the situation. If they keep NDA and no open beta its a way to sell alot of game boxes on the created hype.
Many kids will continoue to live on there hype even if nothing more is revealed about the game before release and they will not cancel there pre-order on today information, or rather lack of it.
It strikes me, that this thread really is about you getting into BETA. My advice to you is to be patient and wait for that time to come. If you did the pre-order you get a free look before the game ships. So stop doing your Pee-Pee Dance and accept the fact that you are going to have to wait like the rest of us.
I am usually a lot more cautious about pre-order but as there is squat I really want to play right now with so much being pushed back I'll probably go for it. (aghhh Spellborn too!)
More recently if things are clearly broken or what I concider significantly broken I do a CC charge back. I am not suggesting AoC will be broken but if it does not deliver what is promised on the recommended spec hardware back it goes. The $50 or whatever matters not to me but it does to the publishers. Its the only way I know of sending a message that I find it unaceptable to pay to beta.
I really hope AoC has at least 6 months of interest for me as there is bugger all on the horizon.
There is information about minimum and recommended spec's for Age of Conan...All you need is there..
And if and only if the game doesn't run on those spec's you will have reason to complain...
Why do you think you SHOULD be able to try it BEFORE the preorder box arrives ?
Why would you feel cheated if the game doesn't live up to the hype..aren't you part of the hype yourself ?
A PRE order is a PRE order, it's an order for a product that isn't released YET..and If you worry to much, then why don't you just cancel and wait a couple of months and play it AFTER release..
/junker
Oh ok then all is as it should be then?
It never striked you that keeping the NDA is a Funcom way to keep all the pre-ordering guys thats unaware of any problem game has? And add a no open beta too that and you get alot of "hush, hush".
Let people know how those specifications works with epic scaled battles with +200 players on your screen before they get their preordered box home. Saying it works like this and that isnt informing us that it will work in hardest demanding situations? Will it be unplayable? A lagfeast?
If a game company hype a game as Funcom does then its just right they let people play it before they get their pre-order home. Thats how i see on the situation. If they keep NDA and no open beta its a way to sell alot of game boxes on the created hype.
Many kids will continoue to live on there hype even if nothing more is revealed about the game before release and they will not cancel there pre-order on today information, or rather lack of it.
I think you're reading too much into this situation. Its not a conspiracy. funcom aint the first to have an NDA in place until THEY decide IF there will be an Open Beta. There's no rules to dictate that they HAVE to. Its not unethical. It's just that YOU want to try before you buy. But nowhere does it state that you are automatically entitled to this.
If you are unsure about purchasing a product, do the same what everyone does with single player games. They wait for the reviews and then decide. Games companies have used this way of releasing products for years. Funcom are no exception.
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Now this is a troll if I ever saw one. PREorder is not 100% safe since you have not actually played the game. Do you even understand what the word PREorder means? It is not a ripoff, it is a chance for some players to get some extrabonuses on thier faith in a game. Its not in ANY way anyone trying to cheat anyone and you are NOT forced to even CONSIDER buying a PREorder if you have the slightest doubt. You are ONLY trolling the board, tyring to throw cow manure on Funcom without any facts information or any hint of truth except your own negative destructive frame of mind and pure juvenile trolling personality.
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