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  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384

    Originally posted by Bigdavo


    Lets just change the name of this thread to: Madace vs Dekron/Enigma. A never-ending debate between 2 irrational/bigoted Christians and a smartass. Good drama.
    Look at you, BigDavo using the grown up words! I'm so proud of you! Wow....you are so awesome! God, I just wished I could be just like you! Well, I guess that's what dreams are for!

    BigDave, I love you so much you big gay teddy bear you!

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384
    Originally posted by Dekron


     

    Family Guy and Robot Chicken.

    Aye, Family Guy and Robot Chicken are two great series.

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

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    Originally posted by peaceandlove


    The world will be a better place when people stop being slaves to a deity that doesn't exist.
    God is a lie. It's just a sick way to control people with fear. These sick bastards have so much to lose if everyone thinks logically. No more money and no more power and control.
    This crap is believed by people that were too ignorant to understand how things work in this world, and need some special warm feeling that there is more to life than nothing happening after death except feeding the worms. Hate to break it to those lost people (not really, i love do it actually), but todays technology explains all those magical events in the universe,
    Not true. Please explain why the sun does not instantly suck every single planet in our solar system into it. The sun's gravitational pull is beyond insane. The size of the sun is beyond insane. (The earth is a grain of rice vs. a full size house). Heck, Mercury is far smaller than Earth, far too close to the sun, and still rotates around the sun without getting pulled in.
     
    it's not some magical being with sandals and a beard.
    Here are some keywords for those people still living in the unexplainable past: science, math, astronomy, physics, proof, and evidence.
    Here's a word/phrase: "Emperer Constantine", "Council of Nicea".
    Religion and science, math, etc... in the past used to be ALL one and the same. It was only recently that the idea that religion and science are seperate, and against each other, happened.
    It's a great feeling knowing that I'm not a slave to a book written by men almost 1,000 years after these magical people roamed the Earth a small part of the Middle East.



    If you are talking about the Christian Bible, then the bulk of it was written during King David's time. Which was roughly 3,500 years ago. The last books were finnished roughly 1,900 years ago.(New Testiment, Jesus, etc...) Though technically, the 10 commandments could be said to be the first part of the Christian/Jewish/Muslim "bibles" that was written down. That would be roughly 4,000 years ago.

     

    Last, the Bible takes place in Ethiopia aka Africa (though Africa didn't exist back then since Leo Africanus did not discover that landmass yet), Egypt, the Mediteranian (sp!), and yes the Middle East, as well as Asia.

  • Originally posted by peaceandlove


     
     
    Originally posted by xplororor


     
    Originally posted by peaceandlove


    The world will be a better place when people stop being slaves to a deity that doesn't exist.
    God is a lie. It's just a sick way to control people with fear. These sick bastards have so much to lose if everyone thinks logically. No more money and no more power and control.
    This crap is believed by people that were too ignorant to understand how things work in this world, and need some special warm feeling that there is more to life than nothing happening after death except feeding the worms. Hate to break it to those lost people (not really, i love do it actually), but todays technology explains all those magical events in the universe,
    Not true. Please explain why the sun does not instantly suck every single planet in our solar system into it. The sun's gravitational pull is beyond insane. The size of the sun is beyond insane. (The earth is a grain of rice vs. a full size house). Heck, Mercury is far smaller than Earth, far too close to the sun, and still rotates around the sun without getting pulled in.
     
    it's not some magical being with sandals and a beard.
    Here are some keywords for those people still living in the unexplainable past: science, math, astronomy, physics, proof, and evidence.
    Here's a word/phrase: "Emperer Constantine", "Council of Nicea".
    Religion and science, math, etc... in the past used to be ALL one and the same. It was only recently that the idea that religion and science are seperate, and against each other, happened.
    It's a great feeling knowing that I'm not a slave to a book written by men almost 1,000 years after these magical people roamed the Earth a small part of the Middle East.



    If you are talking about the Christian Bible, then the bulk of it was written during King David's time. Which was roughly 3,500 years ago. The last books were finnished roughly 1,900 years ago.(New Testiment, Jesus, etc...) Though technically, the 10 commandments could be said to be the first part of the Christian/Jewish/Muslim "bibles" that was written down. That would be roughly 4,000 years ago.

     

    Last, the Bible takes place in Ethiopia aka Africa (though Africa didn't exist back then since Leo Africanus did not discover that landmass yet), Egypt, the Mediteranian (sp!), and yes the Middle East, as well as Asia.

    If I can show you the answer to your sun question by using two magnets, will you call me a god?

    Sooo.... please name this second "magnet" ? Hmmm?

     

    According to your slave book, your deity made and named all of the planets, throwing stars into the sky for our enjoyment, to paraphrase. Well, you do believe that those specks of light "for our amusement" are really other suns and planets right?

     

    Why did he name the planets after Roman deities? Isn't your deity the only one in existance? Why is that?

     1. No one named any of the planets. The Christian Bible only refers to the planets as "shiny stones" located were the mountain of God is at. No names of the planets are given. Again, you need to do research on Constantine, and the Councel of Nicea. Anytime a certain country, culture, or ruler, has an empire, they decide what the name of the months, planets, and calender are. Then when that ruler, and empire, dies, the next empire decides on new names.

    1b. The Bible was originally written in one version of the Semetic languages. Very likely (before a certain Bible person got re-named Israel) the earliest Bible people spoke Akkadian. After a certain guy got his named changed to Israel, and the Hebrews got named, then the Bible was written in Old Hebrew.

    The New Testiment was written in LATIN, and GREEK. That's it.

    All the rest are simply translations from Hebrew, Latin, and Greek. Jesus's actual name is Yehushua Cristo.

    CONSTANTINE named the planets, organized the Western world, and since his empire was one of the top ones, and since might makes right, it's why to this day the days of the week, and planets, and the calender, all follow Roman, Greek, and Nordic names.

    2. Gotcha! You need to take some debating classes in school. Never, ever, assume. You assume and say "Your diety". Where did I ever say I follow the Christian religion? I am posting from a logic P.O.V.

     


    3. Welcome to some hardcore debating.

    3a. Where is this second "magnet" you claim exists?

    3b. This second magnet must exist inside our solar system, on the opposite side of all of our planets, at the same distance our sun is from all of our planets.

    3c. Ahh wait, it gets better. But I'm going to save the final nail for a bit.

  • DekronDekron Member UncommonPosts: 7,359
    Originally posted by Bigdavo


    Lets just change the name of this thread to: Madace vs Dekron/Enigma. A never-ending debate between 2 irrational/bigoted Christians and a smartass. Good drama.

    Whio is the second Christian? I know Enigma is. So, I guess I must be the smartass, eh?

  • Scripture1Scripture1 Member UncommonPosts: 421

    Just happened to be passing through and saw the greatest display of ignorance EVER. MadAce... The bible refer to you as a fool FYI. Yes as you can tell already I am a Christian and not only that I am an ordained Minister of the gospel of Jesus the Christ (as us christians call him). I would like to ask you a question, which religion do you keep refering to when talk about flying man in the clouds etc? and flying dragons. Also, just to clear things up about an earlier statement you made, I don't know what type of christianity your parents follow but I would agree that they are lost because our christian beliefs teaches NOTHING about leaving assets behind to migrate to Israel, everything you said concerning your parents beliefe sounds more like a colt and NOT Christianity. so, you say that Christianity teaches against doctors and science? I can't believe how stupid and ignorant that was for you to even post. PLEASE show me where the bible teaches this and I WILL SURELY enlighten your feeble mind.

    I am not here to debate the truth of Christianity or to bash Islam, christians are NEVER infact suppose to "debate" the word of God mush less "force" our beliefs down the throats of others.

    I normaly don't resort to name calling but since this has already gone bad....man you are truly a lost fool, I hope and pray that someday your eyes will be openned to what real religion is and stop living in a fantasy world. I may not ever come accross this forum after today because I was only looking for the latest information on Aion(an mmorpg) and have no time to read a fools opinions but I will leave you with this. I know a book that tells you about yourself and about why you are they way you are, its called the book of proverbs. You know the one, in the bible you hate so much? the inspired word of God? yeah that one. Go take a look at yourself.

     

    I'm out, you may continue with more foolishness.

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  • frodusfrodus Member Posts: 2,396
    Originally posted by Scripture1


    Just happened to be passing through and saw the greatest display of ignorance EVER. MadAce... The bible refer to you as a fool FYI. Yes as you can tell already I am a Christian and not only that I am an ordained Minister of the gospel of Jesus the Christ (as us christians call him). I would like to ask you a question, which religion do you keep refering to when talk about flying man in the clouds etc? and flying dragons. Also, just to clear things up about an earlier statement you made, I don't know what type of christianity your parents follow but I would agree that they are lost because our christian beliefs teaches NOTHING about leaving assets behind to migrate to Israel, everything you said concerning your parents beliefe sounds more like a colt and NOT Christianity. so, you say that Christianity teaches against doctors and science? I can't believe how stupid and ignorant that was for you to even post. PLEASE show me where the bible teaches this and I WILL SURELY enlighten your feeble mind.
    I am not here to debate the truth of Christianity or to bash Islam, christians are NEVER infact suppose to "debate" the word of God mush less "force" our beliefs down the throats of others.
    I normaly don't resort to name calling but since this has already gone bad....man you are truly a lost fool, I hope and pray that someday your eyes will be openned to what real religion is and stop living in a fantasy world. I may not ever come accross this forum after today because I was only looking for the latest information on Aion(an mmorpg) and have no time to read a fools opinions but I will leave you with this. I know a book that tells you about yourself and about why you are they way you are, its called the book of proverbs. You know the one, in the bible you hate so much? the inspired word of God? yeah that one. Go take a look at yourself.
     
    I'm out, you may continue with more foolishness.



    Well if your looking for info on Aion you came to the right place,I think that was said with love.

    Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress.

  • solmkassolmkas Member Posts: 34

    Originally posted by olddaddy


    I am confused again. The Earth is a sphere, the center of a sphere is at the core, not on the rim. Does this mean that Mecca is at the center of the earth's core? Wouldn't it get kinda hot down there, ya think?
     
    They think they are the center of the Earth.

    Great...now they want to change time.

     

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