Let me put it to you this way... If the attacker was a SOE or LEC employee... I have an "INowOwnPreCU" button I could press by calling a lawyer. Hell yeah, I wish that it was them who did it, cause I'd love to sue SOE/LEC and settle for an unlimited non commercial license to pre CU instead of money... No, it was a deranged fanboi.
Unfortunately, the truth is that unless you had proof (IE- corporate memos, emails) showing that SOE directed said employee to do said act, at worst they would simply send a team of lawyers to disavow any association in the said action in which said employee acted on his own in an unfortunate and unlawful manner that does not reflect the will of the company and clearly outside the designated and delineated protocols and rules of conduct for any and every Sony and SOE employee set forth and signed in the trainee handbook in triplicate (Extends copy) ...
you get the point, i think.
but, yeah, sounds like he's just some idiot.
Logs are being analyzed. And I am a network engineer who knows how to do this. So far, no evidence that it was SOE or LEC, which is why I haven't said it was them. I think it is a single deranged fanboi.
I have banned every IP block that my searching has found that belongs to those companies, btw.
this morning our website was under ddos attack from a poster here calling himself sam123jo123. he has now stated that he was paid by sony for this. has sony gotten so desperate that they will use cyber terrorisim to prevent bad press? i'm sending smed an email about this now.
also: g4 t.v. ten ton hammer warcry cnn msnbc abc cbs nbc and fox. this is going to get VERY MESSY
Get a lawyer and be very careful how you proceed. You could end up be on the wrong end of several lawsuits if you are not careful. Unless you have 100% documented proof that he was paid by SoE to do that, other than he said/she said statements, you are opening yourself up for a world of hurt on many fronts.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
Yeah, Sure Sony chases down every tard that makes an allegation against them. On something like this sony would let you be the one who brings it to court then laugh as the judge brings the gaven down on your sack.
Absolutely. Sony paid somebody to DoS your site then allowed that person to brag about it.
Real cyber terrorists don't tell you they are a cyber terrorist. Thats about as likely as a muslim openly admitting he is Taliban or Al Quida.
Do you really think MMORPG.com is liable to track down somebody just because they attacked your site?
Yeah, Sure Sony chases down every tard that makes an allegation against them. On something like this sony would let you be the one who brings it to court then laugh as the judge brings the gaven down on your sack. Absolutely. Sony paid somebody to DoS your site then allowed that person to brag about it. Real cyber terrorists don't tell you they are a cyber terrorist. Thats about as likely as a muslim openly admitting he is Taliban or Al Quida. Do you really think MMORPG.com is liable to track down somebody just because they attacked your site?
MMORPG.com is liable of doing something about it because he bragged and showed that he's responsible for the attacks over the MMORPG.com PM system.
"There's one MMO developer that doesn't want the money put in front of them - SOE"
I had some great evidence for you there in the other thread but my posts were removed and the offending party's were edited. Hopefully, the information was gathered before deletion. Contacting Dupont and telling them I have found a competitor for Teflon.
Please keep this thread on topic . Continued personal attacks will result in a thread lock.
I'm just glad to see you guys looking into it. I may not have any particular emotional attachment to the site in question...but attacks like this deserve some form of action. Its one thing to see the 'everyday' flaming and trolling that happen in any forum. But a denial of service attack, especially if they have admitted to it in PM's, is pretty harsh.
Anyway, just saying kudos to you guys. Make em bleed tiger.
love the bunch of over inflated egos. LOL.....your site got attacked for a few mins...big whoop...lets make a national agenda out of it.
Hey bucko...noone cares
You've never worked in law enforcement have you? You may be surprised.
Have you? I have family members who work in law enforcement on the federal level and, no.. no they dont care about something silly and unsubstantiated like one person perpetrating a 'pseud-victimless' "spam attack" on a private website with no real value other than civilian entertainment.
correction, noone with any real power cares.
Of course, there are always exceptions, but my money is on the prediction that not one iota of printed, visual, or audio media from a nationally recognized source will report on this 'incident' at all. Nor will Sony have to be billed so much as one hour by one lawyer for anything remotely related to this 'incident'.
Yes, or course I've worked in law enforcement, or I wouldn't ask the question.
Do I think this should be a "national agenda?" lol of course not.
There is, however, a "white collar crime" department that is mandated to address exactly this kind of behaviour. Of course they care about it, that's their sole function. How much power do they need to do their job? Enough I guess lol, but most of them don't attach their self-worth to their mandate, so you could call them powerless all you like; they're still going to do their jobs. Personally I'm thankful to them for their efforts. A lot of crazy things happen via the internet. Because of them, the craziness is limited, and that's good for all of us.
/tiphat to the men and women working in white collar crimes division.
and /tiphat to MMORPG staff for taking this seriously and looking into it.
when sony gets wind of the bad press i am generating right now..........they will care.
Jeezuz dude, you pull this out yer butt? You sound like the one that is being a cyber terrorist, If you make all this rukus and the allegations are false you can be sued for slander and whatever the judge deems a good amount of money for you causing any loss of sales from people reading yer jibberish crap. And why the heck would sony or LE rollback to pre-cu, it was a broken game.
when sony gets wind of the bad press i am generating right now..........they will care.
Jeezuz dude, you pull this out yer butt? You sound like the one that is being a cyber terrorist, If you make all this rukus and the allegations are false you can be sued for slander and whatever the judge deems a good amount of money for you causing any loss of sales from people reading yer jibberish crap. And why the heck would sony or LE rollback to pre-cu, it was a broken game.
hahahaha! I don't agree with you, but that's still funny.
I work for SOE also. YA, and i also work for the French.
The French really want the SWG Refuge board shut down!!!!!! Get a grip, the guy does not work for SOE. SOE does not care that you have this board. SOE stopped caring about you a couple years ago. The bad publicity that you generate for a dying game is not really going to concern them that much. But go for it, you pay for your internet connection so do with it as you want.
Cyber Terrorism. You make me laugh. That fact that some people on this board actually believe what comes out of their mouths amuses me greatly.
really?
that's why $OE sends out all the free vet trials.
that's why $OE has been working on getting us back into the game.
and you are right $OE and swg nge is about to die and we will never see something like the nge ever again.
Still waiting for the game to die iwantmyswg! How long has it been about to die now? 2 years?
I work for SOE also. YA, and i also work for the French.
The French really want the SWG Refuge board shut down!!!!!! Get a grip, the guy does not work for SOE. SOE does not care that you have this board. SOE stopped caring about you a couple years ago. The bad publicity that you generate for a dying game is not really going to concern them that much. But go for it, you pay for your internet connection so do with it as you want.
Cyber Terrorism. You make me laugh. That fact that some people on this board actually believe what comes out of their mouths amuses me greatly.
really?
that's why $OE sends out all the free vet trials.
that's why $OE has been working on getting us back into the game.
and you are right $OE and swg nge is about to die and we will never see something like the nge ever again.
Still waiting for the game to die iwantmyswg! How long has it been about to die now? 2 years?
the sentience of approaching death, died to violance from developers.
I work for SOE also. YA, and i also work for the French.
The French really want the SWG Refuge board shut down!!!!!! Get a grip, the guy does not work for SOE. SOE does not care that you have this board. SOE stopped caring about you a couple years ago. The bad publicity that you generate for a dying game is not really going to concern them that much. But go for it, you pay for your internet connection so do with it as you want.
Cyber Terrorism. You make me laugh. That fact that some people on this board actually believe what comes out of their mouths amuses me greatly.
really?
that's why $OE sends out all the free vet trials.
that's why $OE has been working on getting us back into the game.
and you are right $OE and swg nge is about to die and we will never see something like the nge ever again.
Still waiting for the game to die iwantmyswg! How long has it been about to die now? 2 years?
the sentience of approaching death, died to violance from developers.
I think what Standford was referring to is that NGE was dying violently at the hands of those who develop it. Most likely inferring to their innept coding and short sighted vision for gaming content.
Though I could be wrong about what he was referring to. It is a holiday weekend and there may have been alcohol involved.
I think what Standford was referring to is that NGE was dying violently at the hands of those who develop it. Most likely inferring to their innept coding and short sighted vision for gaming content. Though I could be wrong about what he was referring to. It is a holiday weekend and there may have been alcohol involved.
lol thanks you had it right ..just an attempt to say something with appropriate use of words .. :P
"dying violently at the hands of those who develop it" plus we can watch the death agony right now from something that don't prefer the peace afterwards but grasps for life.
this morning our website was under ddos attack from a poster here calling himself sam123jo123. he has now stated that he was paid by sony for this. has sony gotten so desperate that they will use cyber terrorisim to prevent bad press? i'm sending smed an email about this now.
also: g4 t.v. ten ton hammer warcry cnn msnbc abc cbs nbc and fox. this is going to get VERY MESSY
You people are utterly insane if you believe that guy.
So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.
this morning our website was under ddos attack from a poster here calling himself sam123jo123. he has now stated that he was paid by sony for this. has sony gotten so desperate that they will use cyber terrorisim to prevent bad press? i'm sending smed an email about this now.
also: g4 t.v. ten ton hammer warcry cnn msnbc abc cbs nbc and fox. this is going to get VERY MESSY
You people are utterly insane if you believe that guy.
I agree. Believing anything Smed says is a clear sign of insanity. Glad you pointed it out.
this morning our website was under ddos attack from a poster here calling himself sam123jo123. he has now stated that he was paid by sony for this. has sony gotten so desperate that they will use cyber terrorisim to prevent bad press? i'm sending smed an email about this now.
also: g4 t.v. ten ton hammer warcry cnn msnbc abc cbs nbc and fox. this is going to get VERY MESSY
You people are utterly insane if you believe that guy.
I agree. Believing anything Smed says is a clear sign of insanity. Glad you pointed it out.
Yeah, because that's who I was talking about.
So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.
I'm just glad this post was NOT about Age Of Conan, for once! I think the op should leave the kid alone and stop playing with matches in the forums, also stop posting those stupid pictures! I hope SOE takes an interest and teaches you a lesson that involves a lot of bricks being dropped from a great height.
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Unfortunately, the truth is that unless you had proof (IE- corporate memos, emails) showing that SOE directed said employee to do said act, at worst they would simply send a team of lawyers to disavow any association in the said action in which said employee acted on his own in an unfortunate and unlawful manner that does not reflect the will of the company and clearly outside the designated and delineated protocols and rules of conduct for any and every Sony and SOE employee set forth and signed in the trainee handbook in triplicate (Extends copy) ...you get the point, i think.
but, yeah, sounds like he's just some idiot.
Logs are being analyzed. And I am a network engineer who knows how to do this. So far, no evidence that it was SOE or LEC, which is why I haven't said it was them. I think it is a single deranged fanboi.
I have banned every IP block that my searching has found that belongs to those companies, btw.
Get a lawyer and be very careful how you proceed. You could end up be on the wrong end of several lawsuits if you are not careful. Unless you have 100% documented proof that he was paid by SoE to do that, other than he said/she said statements, you are opening yourself up for a world of hurt on many fronts.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
Yeah, Sure Sony chases down every tard that makes an allegation against them. On something like this sony would let you be the one who brings it to court then laugh as the judge brings the gaven down on your sack.
Absolutely. Sony paid somebody to DoS your site then allowed that person to brag about it.
Real cyber terrorists don't tell you they are a cyber terrorist. Thats about as likely as a muslim openly admitting he is Taliban or Al Quida.
Do you really think MMORPG.com is liable to track down somebody just because they attacked your site?
MMORPG.com is liable of doing something about it because he bragged and showed that he's responsible for the attacks over the MMORPG.com PM system.
"There's one MMO developer that doesn't want the money put in front of them - SOE"
Hey guys! Just wanted to let y'all know that I'm looking into this and the user(s) involved will be handled correctly.
Laura "Taera" Genender
Community Manager
MMORPG.com
I appreciate that. I did send a PM with instructions on where to look.
Ban you?
Salvaje...unless I am mistaken you are Wildcat...and you were banned a while back. heh
I guess I have been following the WVU stuff too much lately...missed this gem of a thread.
Carry on
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
I had some great evidence for you there in the other thread but my posts were removed and the offending party's were edited. Hopefully, the information was gathered before deletion. Contacting Dupont and telling them I have found a competitor for Teflon.
Please keep this thread on topic
. Continued personal attacks will result in a thread lock.
Laura "Taera" Genender
Community Manager
MMORPG.com
I'm just glad to see you guys looking into it. I may not have any particular emotional attachment to the site in question...but attacks like this deserve some form of action. Its one thing to see the 'everyday' flaming and trolling that happen in any forum. But a denial of service attack, especially if they have admitted to it in PM's, is pretty harsh.
Anyway, just saying kudos to you guys. Make em bleed tiger.
You've never worked in law enforcement have you? You may be surprised.
Have you? I have family members who work in law enforcement on the federal level and, no.. no they dont care about something silly and unsubstantiated like one person perpetrating a 'pseud-victimless' "spam attack" on a private website with no real value other than civilian entertainment.correction, noone with any real power cares.
Of course, there are always exceptions, but my money is on the prediction that not one iota of printed, visual, or audio media from a nationally recognized source will report on this 'incident' at all. Nor will Sony have to be billed so much as one hour by one lawyer for anything remotely related to this 'incident'.
Yes, or course I've worked in law enforcement, or I wouldn't ask the question.Do I think this should be a "national agenda?" lol of course not.
There is, however, a "white collar crime" department that is mandated to address exactly this kind of behaviour. Of course they care about it, that's their sole function. How much power do they need to do their job? Enough I guess lol, but most of them don't attach their self-worth to their mandate, so you could call them powerless all you like; they're still going to do their jobs. Personally I'm thankful to them for their efforts. A lot of crazy things happen via the internet. Because of them, the craziness is limited, and that's good for all of us.
/tiphat to the men and women working in white collar crimes division.
and /tiphat to MMORPG staff for taking this seriously and looking into it.
lol, all my posts got poned. I didn't think I was mean or anything :-S
-carry on
I would say theres been a lot of DNS attacks recently,eq2 alakazam,eq2 flames are just 2 sites that i can think of off the top of my head.
MMO fan sites seem to be the in thing for these retards to try and hack/disrupt into
hmmm seems all involved have vanished
I gotz a 300,000 BTU WTFBBQ!
Jeezuz dude, you pull this out yer butt? You sound like the one that is being a cyber terrorist, If you make all this rukus and the allegations are false you can be sued for slander and whatever the judge deems a good amount of money for you causing any loss of sales from people reading yer jibberish crap. And why the heck would sony or LE rollback to pre-cu, it was a broken game.
playing eq2 and two worlds
Jeezuz dude, you pull this out yer butt? You sound like the one that is being a cyber terrorist, If you make all this rukus and the allegations are false you can be sued for slander and whatever the judge deems a good amount of money for you causing any loss of sales from people reading yer jibberish crap. And why the heck would sony or LE rollback to pre-cu, it was a broken game.
hahahaha! I don't agree with you, but that's still funny.
I gotz a 300,000 BTU WTFBBQ!
that's why $OE sends out all the free vet trials.
that's why $OE has been working on getting us back into the game.
and you are right $OE and swg nge is about to die and we will never see something like the nge ever again.
Still waiting for the game to die iwantmyswg! How long has it been about to die now? 2 years?
that's why $OE sends out all the free vet trials.
that's why $OE has been working on getting us back into the game.
and you are right $OE and swg nge is about to die and we will never see something like the nge ever again.
Still waiting for the game to die iwantmyswg! How long has it been about to die now? 2 years?
the sentience of approaching death, died to violance from developers.
that's why $OE sends out all the free vet trials.
that's why $OE has been working on getting us back into the game.
and you are right $OE and swg nge is about to die and we will never see something like the nge ever again.
Still waiting for the game to die iwantmyswg! How long has it been about to die now? 2 years?
the sentience of approaching death, died to violance from developers.
Wait...what?I think what Standford was referring to is that NGE was dying violently at the hands of those who develop it. Most likely inferring to their innept coding and short sighted vision for gaming content.
Though I could be wrong about what he was referring to. It is a holiday weekend and there may have been alcohol involved.
"dying violently at the hands of those who develop it" plus we can watch the death agony right now from something that don't prefer the peace afterwards but grasps for life.
I have to add ...to no avail ...
You people are utterly insane if you believe that guy.
So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.
You people are utterly insane if you believe that guy.
I agree. Believing anything Smed says is a clear sign of insanity. Glad you pointed it out.
You people are utterly insane if you believe that guy.
I agree. Believing anything Smed says is a clear sign of insanity. Glad you pointed it out.
Yeah, because that's who I was talking about.
So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.
I'm just glad this post was NOT about Age Of Conan, for once!
I think the op should leave the kid alone and stop playing with matches in the forums, also stop posting those stupid pictures!
I hope SOE takes an interest and teaches you a lesson that involves a lot of bricks being dropped from a great height.