It seems from that statement that he has played WAR. So has WAR already won this contest?
We don't have enough quality in the MMO arena as it is (well in terms on recent games anyway), it would be a pity if either game led to the downfall of the other.
Plenty of room for more games as lets face it no matter how good a game any rational person gets bored after awhile and wants something new.
Now that AOC is in open beta, its getting pretty bad reviews. I found this quote from Keen's review pretty interesting "I’m going to be blunt. Funcom is lucky that WAR was delayed and Mythic should be kicking themselves that their game wasn’t ready in time to go against AoC. If these two games went head to head then AoC would have been obliterated and unless Funcom turns things around before Fall that’s precisely what will happen. Sorry if you disagree, but that is the truth of my opinion." You can see his whole review here It seems from that statement that he has played WAR. So has WAR already won this contest?
I will not give any weighted statement, I just want to try to explain the rise of such "vs." threads.
1.) Many people just don't have time to play to MMORPGs, so they want to know which of them would be the better investment for their money and time.
2.) Many MMORPGs NEEDS large populations to fully function (for example WAR's RvR), so if people find out that most people avoid such a game, they think that playing it wouldn't make that much fun as they could with enough players.
3.) People like to be fanboish!
I hope that helped clear up what was possible already well known.
There should not be one winner between these two. We should all want them to succeed so there are more than 1-3 options of MMO's to play.
I don't understand the type of mindset that wants less variety in genre that has so little already. It's like if there were only three brands of cereal at the market, and two new ones were coming out but everyone picked one and talked crap about the other and said stupid crap like 'Has cereal x already defeated cereal y?'...
There should not be one winner between these two. We should all want them to succeed so there are more than 1-3 options of MMO's to play. I don't understand the type of mindset that wants less variety in genre that has so little already. It's like if there were only three brands of cereal at the market, and two new ones were coming out but everyone picked one and talked crap about the other and said stupid crap like 'Has cereal x already defeated cereal y?'...
Here, Here, I applaud this mindset ProfRed.
I am playing AOC beta and see all the potential. people are judging it off of beta which is lame.
People said LOTRO would flop (and some goofs still are). It is better now then ever.
I can't wait to play WAR either. Once I have I will settle on the two I like best so I do not burn out on one game like I have in the past.
There should not be one winner between these two. We should all want them to succeed so there are more than 1-3 options of MMO's to play. I don't understand the type of mindset that wants less variety in genre that has so little already. It's like if there were only three brands of cereal at the market, and two new ones were coming out but everyone picked one and talked crap about the other and said stupid crap like 'Has cereal x already defeated cereal y?'...
I never thought I'd agree with you on anything Prof..usually you annoy me with some of the things you post ...but...you do have your head on straight and I commend you for that. People need to stop jumping around ships starting troll flame wars...people dont' do any game justice with that. While I won't be playing or trying out AoC I've been hoping for its success merely because it does offer something new for the heavy guild / raider types. I still have my fingers crossed in hopes that the Open Beta is just a poor representation and that the launch client blows things away.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
There should not be one winner between these two. We should all want them to succeed so there are more than 1-3 options of MMO's to play. I don't understand the type of mindset that wants less variety in genre that has so little already. It's like if there were only three brands of cereal at the market, and two new ones were coming out but everyone picked one and talked crap about the other and said stupid crap like 'Has cereal x already defeated cereal y?'...
I never thought I'd agree with you on anything Prof..usually you annoy me with some of the things you post ...but...you do have your head on straight and I commend you for that. People need to stop jumping around ships starting troll flame wars...people dont' do any game justice with that. While I won't be playing or trying out AoC I've been hoping for its success merely because it does offer something new for the heavy guild / raider types. I still have my fingers crossed in hopes that the Open Beta is just a poor representation and that the launch client blows things away.
Haha when I read old posts I annoy myself, but yeah seriously I do hope for the success of every new MMO. I usually defend them a little too hard, but it's just because I want games to play and jump around between. If I get out of line please slap me around a little.
from what I've heard, AoC isn't causing any sweat on Mythic's brow. As far as competition for release and such, it's apparently nothing to worry about; small fanbase, low public anticipation, only a little PR, and the elements of the game itself (with the exception of PvP Tavern Brawling!) haven't been supplemented enough to really grab a chunk of subscriptions. Plus the classes/races are lack-luster and while I understand the Conan IP has decades of lore to create an enthralling setting, well, it just looks boring.
We're going to have two big boys on the block this year. Not one
-------------------------------------- A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
AmazingAveryAge of Conan AdvocateMemberUncommonPosts: 7,188
Originally posted by Battlekruse
from what I've heard, AoC isn't causing any sweat on Mythic's brow. As far as competition for release and such, it's apparently nothing to worry about; small fanbase, low public anticipation, only a little PR, and the elements of the game itself (with the exception of PvP Tavern Brawling!) haven't been supplemented enough to really grab a chunk of subscriptions. Plus the classes/races are lack-luster and while I understand the Conan IP has decades of lore to create an enthralling setting, well, it just looks boring.
this is complete bull and you know it.
What is more likely is that people will be too hooked on AoC's different combat at the higher levels by the time warhammer comes out and people try it, they probably will find they cant go back to the 2 second weapons swings that guarantee contact because of auto attack just like most games before it. I'll be trying both but I already think this will be how I feel. Defeated AoC, not by a long shot.
from what I've heard, AoC isn't causing any sweat on Mythic's brow. As far as competition for release and such, it's apparently nothing to worry about; small fanbase, low public anticipation, only a little PR, and the elements of the game itself (with the exception of PvP Tavern Brawling!) haven't been supplemented enough to really grab a chunk of subscriptions. Plus the classes/races are lack-luster and while I understand the Conan IP has decades of lore to create an enthralling setting, well, it just looks boring.
this is complete bull and you know it.
What is more likely is that people will be too hooked on AoC's different combat at the higher levels by the time warhammer comes out and people try it, they probably will find they cant go back to the 2 second weapons swings that guarantee contact because of auto attack just like most games before it. I'll be trying both but I already think this will be how I feel. Defeated AoC, not by a long shot.
What if you played a caster?
-------------------------------------- A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Keen's review is garbage. Only some people are experiencing the performance issues he had. For instance, I've played for 6+ hours and never crashed once. Its a very good game and has lots of potential. As for Warhammer...who knows.
AmazingAveryAge of Conan AdvocateMemberUncommonPosts: 7,188
Originally posted by Ascension08
Originally posted by AmazingAvery
Originally posted by Battlekruse
from what I've heard, AoC isn't causing any sweat on Mythic's brow. As far as competition for release and such, it's apparently nothing to worry about; small fanbase, low public anticipation, only a little PR, and the elements of the game itself (with the exception of PvP Tavern Brawling!) haven't been supplemented enough to really grab a chunk of subscriptions. Plus the classes/races are lack-luster and while I understand the Conan IP has decades of lore to create an enthralling setting, well, it just looks boring.
this is complete bull and you know it.
What is more likely is that people will be too hooked on AoC's different combat at the higher levels by the time warhammer comes out and people try it, they probably will find they cant go back to the 2 second weapons swings that guarantee contact because of auto attack just like most games before it. I'll be trying both but I already think this will be how I feel. Defeated AoC, not by a long shot.
What if you played a caster?
With the originality of Spell Weaving looking most excellent I doubt a mage would leave AoC. Or maybe a Necro with 9 different pets.. Or maybe a Demonologist who can transform into a demon form to melee, lacklustra I think not. Maybe the casters in other games where the fireball zigzags like 'roadrunner, meep meep' and always follows and hits the target might seem a little blandish.
from what I've heard, AoC isn't causing any sweat on Mythic's brow. As far as competition for release and such, it's apparently nothing to worry about; small fanbase, low public anticipation, only a little PR, and the elements of the game itself (with the exception of PvP Tavern Brawling!) haven't been supplemented enough to really grab a chunk of subscriptions. Plus the classes/races are lack-luster and while I understand the Conan IP has decades of lore to create an enthralling setting, well, it just looks boring.
this is complete bull and you know it.
What is more likely is that people will be too hooked on AoC's different combat at the higher levels by the time warhammer comes out and people try it, they probably will find they cant go back to the 2 second weapons swings that guarantee contact because of auto attack just like most games before it. I'll be trying both but I already think this will be how I feel. Defeated AoC, not by a long shot.
Such an objective statement there Avery...do you aoc fanbois mind going back to your Own Forums we've been trying to get this Ex AoC fanboy's thread to die and your only making it worse. We didn't start this thread disenchanted game hoppers who've been hating on WAR started this thread in the first place.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
No one cares what Trolls have to say Wolfmann GO BACK TO YOUR OWN FORUM!
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
AmazingAveryAge of Conan AdvocateMemberUncommonPosts: 7,188
Originally posted by elvenangel
Originally posted by AmazingAvery
Originally posted by Battlekruse
from what I've heard, AoC isn't causing any sweat on Mythic's brow. As far as competition for release and such, it's apparently nothing to worry about; small fanbase, low public anticipation, only a little PR, and the elements of the game itself (with the exception of PvP Tavern Brawling!) haven't been supplemented enough to really grab a chunk of subscriptions. Plus the classes/races are lack-luster and while I understand the Conan IP has decades of lore to create an enthralling setting, well, it just looks boring.
this is complete bull and you know it.
What is more likely is that people will be too hooked on AoC's different combat at the higher levels by the time warhammer comes out and people try it, they probably will find they cant go back to the 2 second weapons swings that guarantee contact because of auto attack just like most games before it. I'll be trying both but I already think this will be how I feel. Defeated AoC, not by a long shot.
Such an objective statement there Avery...do you aoc fanbois mind going back to your Own Forums we've been trying to get this Ex AoC fanboy's thread to die and your only making it worse. We didn't start this thread disenchanted game hoppers who've been hating on WAR started this thread in the first place.
yea its a bit objective, but its equal to battlekruses outlandish lies and was directed at him, considering he quick posting elsewhere and then here to hide. Misinformation is rampant here, and people are spreading it butter. OP has always disliked AoC.
I think jealousy plays alot to do with the negativity.
EDIT: wow elven i came back to the thread but wont post, just edit this one. I got your sarcasm and was replying in kind, sorry you didnt pick up on it.
Keen's review is garbage. Only some people are experiencing the performance issues he had. For instance, I've played for 6+ hours and never crashed once. Its a very good game and has lots of potential. As for Warhammer...who knows.
To this point I have to state that I played several hours today with very good performance. I can't really speak to why some are getting this perfromance muck up, but I do wonder if this whole beta is not good for dealing with these issues. Somone in Global chat even asked if people were getting better performance because he certainnly was.
There is polish needed, that's for sure. And I can't speak to some of the hate as I feel that some people just want a different game. But if you are interested in a story based game (at least from what I've seen of this beta) a decent fighting system (it's very apparent that you are supposed to be reactive to where your opponenet is blocking) and beautiful graphics (seriously... I can't play on anythign but low and the game looks great) then the game might be for you.
Like Skyrim? Need more content? Try my Skyrim mod "Godfred's Tomb."
yea its a bit objective, but its equal to battlekruses outlandish lies and was directed at him, considering he quick posting elsewhere and then here to hide. Misinformation is rampant here, and people are spreading it butter. OP has always disliked AoC. I think jealousy plays alot to do with the negativity.
...oh ..my god..you ... obviously missed the sarcasm...you were completley Not Objective and neither was He but you jus tkeep feeding the flames with your flesh and wondering why your burning.
THE OP hates both Games so why don't you take your lil Troll fanbois back to your forums and let the thread die like we've been trying to get it to do.
I'm not sure what anyone has to be jealous over considering the obviously Kick in the Pants that Funcom's giving itself. I have hopes that AoC will succeed but all of your fan's behavior as of late just proves my theory that a mature rated game = immature playerbase.
So sod off
Seriously SOD OFF and go protect your game in your Own Forums for pete's sake.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
A poor review, biased (warhammer fan from the numerous posts about that one) but never the less the individual is trying to garner "fans" for his/her/it's website, nothing more.
people that write reviews are typing them in their own experiances, their own views, their own likes and dislikes, and what happened to them during that particular run of time and or playsession. mindless people unable to come to their own conclusions will take anything, good or bad and run with it.
informed people with common sense do the following. they play the game, beta or otherwise, they make their own decisions, they either like it, or dislike it based on their own decisions, then they can quit and bitch about their experiance or they can just quit and not bother folks with uneeded typing on a cheap forum.
am i waiting for either warhammer or age of conan, no, am i playing anything atm, yes, aoc beta, so far you have the obvious, nothing that thousands of other folks have said on thousands of other threads, but hey, i make my own mind up, or you can go to these silly blog sites, or mmo websites and have them make a decision for you, or you can pull your head out and make a decision yourself.
can you smell that?!!...............there is nothing quite like it.....................the smell of troll in the morning............i love that smell.
Who doesn't love a fanboi thread full of trolls claiming the game will be perfect when it is so obviously not so. they will fight to the death!
If the graphics sucked, half of AoC's fan base probably wouldn't play it. What kind of GAME is that? In that sense, just go buy a pretty picture and save some money.
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Plenty of room for more games as lets face it no matter how good a game any rational person gets bored after awhile and wants something new.
yes.
this post is just.... lol carry on.
"Negaholics are people who become addicted to negativity and self-doubt, they find fault in most things and never seem to be satisfied."
^MMORPG.com
I will not give any weighted statement, I just want to try to explain the rise of such "vs." threads.
1.) Many people just don't have time to play to MMORPGs, so they want to know which of them would be the better investment for their money and time.
2.) Many MMORPGs NEEDS large populations to fully function (for example WAR's RvR), so if people find out that most people avoid such a game, they think that playing it wouldn't make that much fun as they could with enough players.
3.) People like to be fanboish!
I hope that helped clear up what was possible already well known.
Thx of you read it!
There should not be one winner between these two. We should all want them to succeed so there are more than 1-3 options of MMO's to play.
I don't understand the type of mindset that wants less variety in genre that has so little already. It's like if there were only three brands of cereal at the market, and two new ones were coming out but everyone picked one and talked crap about the other and said stupid crap like 'Has cereal x already defeated cereal y?'...
I am playing AOC beta and see all the potential. people are judging it off of beta which is lame.
People said LOTRO would flop (and some goofs still are). It is better now then ever.
I can't wait to play WAR either. Once I have I will settle on the two I like best so I do not burn out on one game like I have in the past.
I never thought I'd agree with you on anything Prof..usually you annoy me with some of the things you post ...but...you do have your head on straight and I commend you for that. People need to stop jumping around ships starting troll flame wars...people dont' do any game justice with that. While I won't be playing or trying out AoC I've been hoping for its success merely because it does offer something new for the heavy guild / raider types. I still have my fingers crossed in hopes that the Open Beta is just a poor representation and that the launch client blows things away.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
I never thought I'd agree with you on anything Prof..usually you annoy me with some of the things you post ...but...you do have your head on straight and I commend you for that. People need to stop jumping around ships starting troll flame wars...people dont' do any game justice with that. While I won't be playing or trying out AoC I've been hoping for its success merely because it does offer something new for the heavy guild / raider types. I still have my fingers crossed in hopes that the Open Beta is just a poor representation and that the launch client blows things away.
Haha when I read old posts I annoy myself, but yeah seriously I do hope for the success of every new MMO. I usually defend them a little too hard, but it's just because I want games to play and jump around between. If I get out of line please slap me around a little.
Hehehhe Oh I shall sir I shall! *gets the iron glove of slapping out* lol
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
DAoC and WoW had smooth launches.
from what I've heard, AoC isn't causing any sweat on Mythic's brow. As far as competition for release and such, it's apparently nothing to worry about; small fanbase, low public anticipation, only a little PR, and the elements of the game itself (with the exception of PvP Tavern Brawling!) haven't been supplemented enough to really grab a chunk of subscriptions. Plus the classes/races are lack-luster and while I understand the Conan IP has decades of lore to create an enthralling setting, well, it just looks boring.
We're going to have two big boys on the block this year. Not one
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
this is complete bull and you know it.
What is more likely is that people will be too hooked on AoC's different combat at the higher levels by the time warhammer comes out and people try it, they probably will find they cant go back to the 2 second weapons swings that guarantee contact because of auto attack just like most games before it. I'll be trying both but I already think this will be how I feel. Defeated AoC, not by a long shot.
this is complete bull and you know it.
What is more likely is that people will be too hooked on AoC's different combat at the higher levels by the time warhammer comes out and people try it, they probably will find they cant go back to the 2 second weapons swings that guarantee contact because of auto attack just like most games before it. I'll be trying both but I already think this will be how I feel. Defeated AoC, not by a long shot.
What if you played a caster?
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
Keen's review is garbage. Only some people are experiencing the performance issues he had. For instance, I've played for 6+ hours and never crashed once. Its a very good game and has lots of potential. As for Warhammer...who knows.
this is complete bull and you know it.
What is more likely is that people will be too hooked on AoC's different combat at the higher levels by the time warhammer comes out and people try it, they probably will find they cant go back to the 2 second weapons swings that guarantee contact because of auto attack just like most games before it. I'll be trying both but I already think this will be how I feel. Defeated AoC, not by a long shot.
What if you played a caster?
With the originality of Spell Weaving looking most excellent I doubt a mage would leave AoC. Or maybe a Necro with 9 different pets.. Or maybe a Demonologist who can transform into a demon form to melee, lacklustra I think not. Maybe the casters in other games where the fireball zigzags like 'roadrunner, meep meep' and always follows and hits the target might seem a little blandish.
this is complete bull and you know it.
What is more likely is that people will be too hooked on AoC's different combat at the higher levels by the time warhammer comes out and people try it, they probably will find they cant go back to the 2 second weapons swings that guarantee contact because of auto attack just like most games before it. I'll be trying both but I already think this will be how I feel. Defeated AoC, not by a long shot.
Such an objective statement there Avery...do you aoc fanbois mind going back to your Own Forums we've been trying to get this Ex AoC fanboy's thread to die and your only making it worse. We didn't start this thread disenchanted game hoppers who've been hating on WAR started this thread in the first place.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
Played both, but without going into details....
AoC is better....
But then again, I was never a WoW fan ever....
No one cares what Trolls have to say Wolfmann GO BACK TO YOUR OWN FORUM!
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
this is complete bull and you know it.
What is more likely is that people will be too hooked on AoC's different combat at the higher levels by the time warhammer comes out and people try it, they probably will find they cant go back to the 2 second weapons swings that guarantee contact because of auto attack just like most games before it. I'll be trying both but I already think this will be how I feel. Defeated AoC, not by a long shot.
Such an objective statement there Avery...do you aoc fanbois mind going back to your Own Forums we've been trying to get this Ex AoC fanboy's thread to die and your only making it worse. We didn't start this thread disenchanted game hoppers who've been hating on WAR started this thread in the first place.
yea its a bit objective, but its equal to battlekruses outlandish lies and was directed at him, considering he quick posting elsewhere and then here to hide. Misinformation is rampant here, and people are spreading it butter. OP has always disliked AoC.
I think jealousy plays alot to do with the negativity.
EDIT: wow elven i came back to the thread but wont post, just edit this one. I got your sarcasm and was replying in kind, sorry you didnt pick up on it.
There is polish needed, that's for sure. And I can't speak to some of the hate as I feel that some people just want a different game. But if you are interested in a story based game (at least from what I've seen of this beta) a decent fighting system (it's very apparent that you are supposed to be reactive to where your opponenet is blocking) and beautiful graphics (seriously... I can't play on anythign but low and the game looks great) then the game might be for you.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
...oh ..my god..you ... obviously missed the sarcasm...you were completley Not Objective and neither was He but you jus tkeep feeding the flames with your flesh and wondering why your burning.
THE OP hates both Games so why don't you take your lil Troll fanbois back to your forums and let the thread die like we've been trying to get it to do.
I'm not sure what anyone has to be jealous over considering the obviously Kick in the Pants that Funcom's giving itself. I have hopes that AoC will succeed but all of your fan's behavior as of late just proves my theory that a mature rated game = immature playerbase.
So sod off
Seriously SOD OFF and go protect your game in your Own Forums for pete's sake.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
A poor review, biased (warhammer fan from the numerous posts about that one) but never the less the individual is trying to garner "fans" for his/her/it's website, nothing more.
people that write reviews are typing them in their own experiances, their own views, their own likes and dislikes, and what happened to them during that particular run of time and or playsession. mindless people unable to come to their own conclusions will take anything, good or bad and run with it.
informed people with common sense do the following. they play the game, beta or otherwise, they make their own decisions, they either like it, or dislike it based on their own decisions, then they can quit and bitch about their experiance or they can just quit and not bother folks with uneeded typing on a cheap forum.
am i waiting for either warhammer or age of conan, no, am i playing anything atm, yes, aoc beta, so far you have the obvious, nothing that thousands of other folks have said on thousands of other threads, but hey, i make my own mind up, or you can go to these silly blog sites, or mmo websites and have them make a decision for you, or you can pull your head out and make a decision yourself.
can you smell that?!!...............there is nothing quite like it.....................the smell of troll in the morning............i love that smell.
Who doesn't love a fanboi thread full of trolls claiming the game will be perfect when it is so obviously not so. they will fight to the death!
If the graphics sucked, half of AoC's fan base probably wouldn't play it. What kind of GAME is that? In that sense, just go buy a pretty picture and save some money.
/bury
WHEN DID CREATIVITY DIE
LOL PPL!
Play the game you want to play! AOC and WAR have thier difference,but they both look like great games!
Stop the This game vs. This game treads! LOL
Played : WOW, LOTRO, COH/COV, EQ2, SWG, and WAR.
Playing EVE Online and AOC.
Wtg for SW:TOR and WOD