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  • PandraxPandrax Member UncommonPosts: 341
    Originally posted by openedge1


     
    Originally posted by Battleskar

    Originally posted by Elikal


    I stumbled across a thread in the official forum posted by a woman, who asked why there was no male prostitute in the tutorial for female players playing female characters.
    forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php
    Just read the answers. Read the many, many ugly replies. Don't just read the first 5, go through all to see the MASS. Gawd, it really made me shudder. I am sure there are also decend (straight) males playing this game, but they chose the be very silent there. The very long list of what can not be called anything but sexual harrassment... great.
    But one cant be surprised. Funcom ASKED for such a band of trash-people. Yeah yeah its all like in Howards books, I know. So what? We dont have 1930 we have 2008. Were 1930ies macho men fantasies of raped women and females made objects of male desire so grand? You really want that world back? Is it SO difficult to accept women as EQUAL? Great. Maybe I put too much believe in men, that they could evolve. But place them one scantly dressed woman in front and it all goes bye bye apparently. Disgusting.
    Funcom asked for it. It was not necessary, but all the design choices CALLED for such human trash, and there it is, calling its own stupidity out aloud. It seems to me straight men are as dumb as I thought after all. Bah... ><



    Well I understand exactly what your trying to say here and I would have to agree with you on this. This should make some good discussions.

    I really believe this game is not geared to the GLBT crowd in all actuality...(ok...maybe the T or L crowd...ah hell...throw in the B crowd also)

     

    But, from the 2 male gay members of my guild, they have expressed a huge disinterest in Conan...and it makes sense. The game is geared toward the macho crowd clearly, and the fact it tries to reenact the old Howard feel...I believe Funcom has it.

    I of course would have no issue playing alongside any of the GLBT community...you just have to learn to ignore the immature, and actually see that a really good game is waiting here. Come in, join and make those immature bastards pay with your swords...

    Cheers



    Edge has a good point. Having a good playing experience has a lot to do with how you handle other peoples lack of maturity. If you are unable to handle any sort of immaturity in a video game of all places, then the problem isn't the game. There are a lot of good, and mature players waiting for Age of Conan, and I'm sure once things are settled down the younger crowd will be supressed by a more mature playerbase.

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  • devilisciousdeviliscious Member UncommonPosts: 4,359

    I was not offended by the nudity, or the female prostitute or even the comments made by the barbarians in the forums..  I mean being a woman myself it does not offend me simply because I already thought the best man is a man on a leash =) ( literally) :P.  And since as a woman and  having my own feelings toward men in general, why would it be any different for men to also have their views of women?  Sex and violence are very strong powerful emotions and it is games like this that allow for women and men to unleash their violent tendencies in a manner that allows for people to not get hurt.  I mean in reality we cannot walk up and kick someone randomly in the face, or tear their clothes off.. but in games we have the ability to not keep these emotions pinned up inside , which to be honest is alot healthier for the general population as a whole. I see nothing wrong with violent or sexual quests in a violent and sexual game.

  • gamedevergamedever Member Posts: 143

    Well said!

  • tool089tool089 Member UncommonPosts: 72

    This is the third of fourth anti-AoC thread I've seen by the OP.  It honest to god does NOT matter if there is a woman prostitute at the beginning, it's the story mode tutorial.  It lasts all of 15 minutes then you're off doing something else.  If it bothers you so much to be in a land of BARBARIANS go play a game with pretty boy elves.  I personally do not care if my character is an elf, a barbarian, or a gay guy with rainbow swords.  I want a game that has good gameplay and as long as I kick some butt with that avatar, it can look like whatever the devs want it to look like.

  • Ngeldu5tNgeldu5t Member UncommonPosts: 608

    Being a psychologist,Mr Gaute knew what he was doing and he succeeded.All the games on the market are like Disney parc so he chose the other way.All characters in Hyboria are human with whom the player will easily identify himself or herself.

    The game is about Maschoism,accept it whether you agree with the OP or not.The mine is bigger than yours mentally is all over any Aoc forums (more than others just look at the posts where some talk about the specs ).I found that women question legitimate as in this era there were Eunuchs.But as she says it was meant for man in 1930 .I wonder how many of you would have played a lets say " Eunuch of Xotli" instead Herald of Xotli.Even if he was the fiercest warrior you would have been uncomfortable with the fact that your nuts are not there anymore for the prostitute(sorry no buff).

    Why do you think Batman Begins and The Dark knight is more towards Miller's vision instead of Bob Kane? It's simply because what was good in the 30's will not work in 2008 but Maschoism was there since year 01 and will always be there..its sad but true.

    PS>if I have to face 5 or 6 guys I would rather have one of my female friend with me as she would not hesitate to gut some them if our life was in danger where i would simply broke their elbows or dislocate their shoulders

    In the land of Predators,the lion does not fear the jackals...

  • jiveturkey12jiveturkey12 Member CommonPosts: 1,262

    While were on the subject of homosexuals, the thing i dont get that i wish someone could explain to me is why alot of homosexuals change their voice and make it higher sounding.

     

    To me they always seem like more attention grabbing then other homosexuals who dont raise their voice, for example I work at a theatre, and alot of the homosexuals there speak like normal men, with deep voices.

     

    Then i will go to work and there will be alot of gay men at the bar who talk with a high voice for some reason, and in my opinion always seem to be more attention grabbing and really "Flaunting" their homosexuality, where as the people at the theatre really just go on dates with men, but dont try and "Act homosexual".

     

    This is all just my opinion and perseption of the homosexuals i have encountered, and is a serious question, as i dont speak candidly to any of the homosexuals at my work or theatre.

     

    -Jive

  • devilisciousdeviliscious Member UncommonPosts: 4,359
    Originally posted by Ngeldu5t


    PS>if I have to face 5 or 6 guys I would rather have one of my female friend with me as she would not hesitate to gut some them if our life was in danger where i would simply broke their elbows or dislocate their shoulders

    LOL! so true.. women are wayy more fierce in combat. And in this day and age, we are being combat trained at very young ages because daddys do not want their little princesses overcome by some guy. We are taking self defence courses, kickboxing, firearms training and fencing at younger and younger ages.

  • lykkenlykken Member UncommonPosts: 97

    Originally posted by Leary


     
    Originally posted by Elikal


    I stumbled across a thread in the official forum posted by a woman, who asked why there was no male prostitute in the tutorial for female players playing female characters.

     

    You are just angry because you want a male prostitute, too.

    And on another note: do not dare ever condescend to someone because they are straight. You think you are better than we are? Sounds like to me you are just one of those people who think because they are "different" than the vast majority, that you are in some way superior. I promise you, you are not.

    Lastly, why in God's name would you play a testosterone-driven game like AoC if you didn't want to see barbarian-type players? I think I know the answer to this, but I digress.


    hehe

     

  • PraetorianiPraetoriani Member Posts: 1,147

    I love these kind of threads. They're a breeding ground for armchair machos, feminists without a clue, men who try their very best to make sure that everybody realises that not all men are like the OP described, trolls, and everything in between.

    It's very entertaining to read.

  • Ngeldu5tNgeldu5t Member UncommonPosts: 608
    Originally posted by Praetoriani


    I love these kind of threads. They're a breeding ground for armchair machos, feminists without a clue, men who try their very best to make sure that everybody realises that not all men are like the OP described, trolls, and everything in between.
    It's very entertaining to read.

      There's one word for that " voyeurism"

    In the land of Predators,the lion does not fear the jackals...

  • Agricola1Agricola1 Member UncommonPosts: 4,977

    Since most ingame famales are males anyway it seems like a good idea to have the female NPC hit on a female character right? I wouldn't mind having a male NPC or player hit on me ingame, aslong as I can rip his windpipe out and beat him to death with the tonsil end afterwards!

    FFA PVP rocks!

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    CS Lewis

  • nikoliathnikoliath Member UncommonPosts: 1,154


    Originally posted by Praetoriani


    I love these kind of threads. They're a breeding ground for armchair machos, feminists without a clue, men who try their very best to make sure that everybody realises that not all men are like the OP described, trolls, and everything in between.
    It's very entertaining to read.

    What Praetoriani meant


    I love forum threads. They're a breeding ground for you, me and everyone in between to write our opinions.

    It's very entertaining to read.

    Is this not the whole point of an internet forum? Q.E.D

  • DignaDigna Member UncommonPosts: 1,994

    If you look at the number of posts..okay sizable number but if you look at the repeat posts for people who kept re-posting and think in terms of ratios what are we talking about? 75 people out of how many thousands of regular posters? .01%? There are more people who should learn to guard their comments where I work around the water cooler every day.

    In every cross section of people there are alwasy going to be idiots and fools. An absolute statement of 'look what kind of people AoC attracts' is 99.99% inaccurate.

    Heck. I was in the 'limited' OB last week and there were plenty of 'twits'. I was half tempted on a couple occasions to sound off on them but I know better. (/ignore <name>) then I wasn't bothered anymore. They were received a passive rebuke they never knew about when I wasn't reading thier subsequent posts and possily helping them. (I tried to help as many folks as possible via /tell or Global chat as possible..the twits missed out on the potential)

    Absolute statements about everything are often only absolutely inaccurate. Consider that.

  • OriphusOriphus Member UncommonPosts: 467

    Originally posted by WiccanCircle


    Yep, read it.
    It is exactly what I would expect to hear from children.  I don't worry about what sexual inuendo is found in a toy game and I doubt any adults do either, regardless there legal age.
    Meh to the NPCs.  They are not real, you know?  They are just part of the game graphics.
    (oh, and as far as women being equals - LOL  we blew past equality like a race car passing a homeless man pushing a shopping cart.  Take a look around.  Women in my generation earn more college degrees, enter higher professional positions and earn more money than men in their same age group.
    Equal?  We will achieve equality only if you men catch back up

    :S you also still look after the kids and do most of the household chores at the same time as holding these high powered positions unfortunately (so i have read anyhow).....its not all good! you gals are under more stress than ever before in recorded history, still got to iron out more of those wrinkles before you can claim we are behind! (sorry to mention the ironing :D)

    :)
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  • altairzqaltairzq Member Posts: 3,811

    Yes, I knew from te beginning that they are trying to attract that kind of players, blood thirsty kids that want to imagine they have arms as thick as they real thin body (with the exception of the ones that write in this forum which are more mature, but they will be just a 1% of the population). I won't touch this game with a ten foot pole.

  • ladyattisladyattis Member Posts: 1,273

    The forums isn't what bothered me, it was the public chat that bothered me. The game looks nice, runs stable and all on my system, the combat system is a bit to get use to but acceptable (I like the movement tactics you can unlock from dodging or bum rushing a mob), and other stuff in-between. It's the attitude of the players that I cannot stand. Whether I play the every-man Aquionlonian or a female toon, the same immature idiotic, and downright Somethingawful Forums material that these sobs spew forth is a bit too much for me (and I'm a bit of a troll on other forums, oi!). The fact that this is the biggest turn off for me shows it's not the game, nor really the developer, nor even the policies of the developer, rather it's the total MMO audience. It's the total sum of humanity that I'm getting disgusted by and not so much the end-product or its producer(s).

    It's a sad day that anyone (me or whomever) will turn down a decent game because of the crowd it attracts, or rather how the crowd has become too much like the everyday real world crowd for which I loath. It's this shift in the MMO audience, which is more or less a reflection of the real world everyday audience of movie-goers, grocery shoppers, and the like that make me wonder what little space in the entire continuum of the species do I have? I know that my post is a bit seemingly off-topic, but at its core is the issue: the crowd that surrounds AoC is pretty much the same crowd that surrounds us in real life, more or less. I'm simply expanding the issue to be larger than AoC since I'm finding the same sorts/types of people in other MMOs, multiplayer games, and just plain real life these days. It just goes to show that we live in a sick society.

    -- Brede

  • SyproSypro Member Posts: 86

    Originally posted by altairzq


    Yes, I knew from te beginning that they are trying to attract that kind of players, blood thirsty kids that want to imagine they have arms as thick as they real thin body (with the exception of the ones that write in this forum which are more mature, but they will be just a 1% of the population). I won't touch this game with a ten foot pole.
    Whatever you like.

    And i think people like you are the nerd kind that do nothing else but play those freaky life roleplay things. It's just to make the prejudgements complete, you see.

  • OrphesOrphes Member UncommonPosts: 3,039

    Originally posted by Elikal



    Funcom asked for it. It was not necessary, but all the design choices CALLED for such human trash, and there it is, calling its own stupidity out aloud. It seems to me straight men are as dumb as I thought after all. Bah... ><

    Idiots are idiots. We should not need to have cencorship if people could see things for what it is.

    (Please understand the context of which I am using mature)

    a: Having this content in a game. And (in the curcuimstances) a mature crowd.

    b: Don't have this content. And a mature crowd.

    c Having this content. And a nonmature crowd.

    I would pick option a, and that would be possible if the people that could moderate this kind of things didn't let it happen. Letting a selected few take over-hand is not possible in what we could call a real life forum, but on the interent it is possible. And a cool thing to do, postcount(tm).

    But people whines about moderation.

    Things can be discussed about alwaysbut that thread, whatever the orginal post was, is just yet a troll overtaken thread of no use. So yeah the "cool" crowd did take it over.

    I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
    "You have the right not to be killed"

  • AmazingAveryAmazingAvery Age of Conan AdvocateMember UncommonPosts: 7,188
    Originally posted by Sypro


     
    Originally posted by altairzq


    Yes, I knew from te beginning that they are trying to attract that kind of players, blood thirsty kids that want to imagine they have arms as thick as they real thin body (with the exception of the ones that write in this forum which are more mature, but they will be just a 1% of the population). I won't touch this game with a ten foot pole.
    Whatever you like.

     

    And i think people like you are the nerd kind that do nothing else but play those freaky life roleplay things. It's just to make the prejudgements complete, you see.



    Did you just describe warhammer online Altairzq? You know all those kids at games workshop dreaming about playing the big bad greenskin with the big bad axe and the big bad cockney English words. Actually you could pretty much say that about any game.



  • Agricola1Agricola1 Member UncommonPosts: 4,977

    Originally posted by Elikal


    I stumbled across a thread in the official forum posted by a woman, who asked why there was no male prostitute in the tutorial for female players playing female characters.
    forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php
    Just read the answers. Read the many, many ugly replies. Don't just read the first 5, go through all to see the MASS. Gawd, it really made me shudder. I am sure there are also decend (straight) males playing this game, but they chose the be very silent there. The very long list of what can not be called anything but sexual harrassment... great.
    But one cant be surprised. Funcom ASKED for such a band of trash-people. Yeah yeah its all like in Howards books, I know. So what? We dont have 1930 we have 2008. Were 1930ies macho men fantasies of raped women and females made objects of male desire so grand? You really want that world back? Is it SO difficult to accept women as EQUAL? Great. Maybe I put too much believe in men, that they could evolve. But place them one scantly dressed woman in front and it all goes bye bye apparently. Disgusting.
    Funcom asked for it. It was not necessary, but all the design choices CALLED for such human trash, and there it is, calling its own stupidity out aloud. It seems to me straight men are as dumb as I thought after all. Bah... ><
    I'd rather be dumb than an ignorant hetrophobe!

    Straight men like naked women, straight men like to watch movies with blood and gore, straight men are sick to the back teeth with bra burners of both sexes in real life. So could you just give us a damn break and let us play AoC in peace?

    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"

    CS Lewis

  • PraetorianiPraetoriani Member Posts: 1,147

    Originally posted by nikoliath



    Originally posted by Praetoriani


    I love these kind of threads. They're a breeding ground for armchair machos, feminists without a clue, men who try their very best to make sure that everybody realises that not all men are like the OP described, trolls, and everything in between.
    It's very entertaining to read.

    What Praetoriani meant


    I love forum threads. They're a breeding ground for you, me and everyone in between to write our opinions.

    It's very entertaining to read.

    Is this not the whole point of an internet forum? Q.E.D

    I see what you did there.

  • LondonMagusLondonMagus Member Posts: 700

    Why are people getting so worked up about the gender of a prostitute in a training tutorial?

    Not being lucky enough to be in the Beta, I haven't even seen this NPC but I am now looking forward to seeing what all the fuss was about & not because I find cartoon nudity appealing.

    Yes it might have been amusing to see a male prostitute as well, but surely if they had automatically assigned a prostitute of opposing gender for the tutorial quest that would have provoked arguments about why people couldn't choose one of the same sex. If they had allowed players to choose the same sex prostitute, the religious groups would cause even more arguments by accusing Funcom of promoting homosexuality. For crying out loud, it's just a game!

    As far as offensive comments on forums go, as everyone knows they aren't representative of people that play the game & are often deliberately exaggerated for effect. If anyone starts an infammatory troll thread on any forum then they should expect to get roasted.

    I am sure Funcom will have the same harassment policies as other MMOs, so it doesn't matter what sort of players it initially attracts. If any immature players do repeatedly use offensive language when the game goes live then they will just get banned.

    Once the game has been up for a month & the initial rush of free trial people are gone, things will almost certainly settle down & we will hopefully be left with a mature community.

    If you can't "Have your cake & eat it too", then how can "The proof of the pudding be in the eating"?

  • Sylar3Sylar3 Member Posts: 118

    Male prostitutes are not in the game because The conan writer never wrote about them so funcom can't put them in because it would break lore.

    Anyway I'm not a sexist pig, I will just be playing it for the boobs. /joke

  • TheSheikhTheSheikh Member Posts: 804

    Haha, that photo made my morning.

    Thank you for the humor in a much too serious thread.

    STOP WHINING!

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