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  • PraetorianiPraetoriani Member Posts: 1,147

    Originally posted by Ichben


     
    Originally posted by HashBrick


     

    Originally posted by Ichben


    Originally posted by rshandlon
     
    One of the best examples of Sarcasm I have ever seen. to the OP, you get a +10 interweb points for this post. Seeing all the lamers coming here and posting how the game sucks so much after playing it for a few hours has been a total joke and I love how the OP has taken it and made fun of those threads in the best way possible.



    Anyone who thinks this was a serious thread really needs to step back and take a breather for once.

     
    Rshandlon I was not trying to be sarcastic nor was I trying to be funny. I was serial when I said that the community broke my heart. I was also serial when I said the boobs made me angry.

    You sir are a troll and if you continue to be a troll I will have to report you and have you banned from this forum for not taking me serially. Is that clear young man. IS THAT CLEAR YOU MEANY!!!!!

    Ichben Einberliner

     

    It's KingCarebear in disguise, the first give away is the name changing on the bottom of each post. Either way it was a good laugh.

    HasBrick, I am not KingCarebear. I have no idea where you got that idea from. But it is WAY OFF!!! Don't get me wrong. I am flattered that you would think I was the great KingCarebear. I really am.

     

    I look up to him. He's like a father to me and I will always love him. He will always be my "true" daddy.

    Ichy

    What happened to the Crimson King?

  • kpartonkparton Member Posts: 104

    This thread is wierd, but has good and noted tones which I want to clarify now.

    Lets go back 40 years ago, right.  porno was big business then, today is even more but then it was stil la big thing but it was out of the lime light..you never saw boobes, sex, etc on tv or in advertising or in games etc.

    If a film had a mild fake sex scene or boobies, it was classifed 18 or even had to be cut because it was not accepted by the viewing public and governing bodies.

    Whats happened over the years? several years ago boobies could be shown in a 15 certificate film and guess what......soon to be shown in a 12A certificat film.

    How is this possible? how does peoples additudes change to the extent that things that were not acceptable 40 years ago now become the norm? why did this happen? is there a benefit to this happening because I cant see it.

    We as people have been corrupted by all sorts, the general public is being exploted for nothing more than profitable gain and this is going to affect everyone but most imortantly of all, our children.  I have an eight year old daughter and it horrifies me to think what the worlds going to be like for her when she grows up, its scary now so god knows what its going to be like in 20 years.

    Crime is on the rise, and its only going to get worse, exposing youth to things like violence in games and film is only going to add to this...and now we've got sex in games....its not the norm yet but it only takes on game to set a trend and then everyone jumps on the band wagon.

    In 5 years time, sex in games will be the norm...the only problem is kids are exposed to them even though they should not be playing them.

    Theres always going to be two parties arguing about topics like this....the ones that are allready corrupted and have adjusted themselves to accpet this as the norm and those who can see how we're all heading towards oblivion and are scared shitless.

  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    corrupt? Are we talking adults playing an adult game here or am I missing something? I find sex pretty normal, not sure how corrupt your idea of humanity is to think otherwise.

  • sa1yamansa1yaman Member Posts: 272

    Originally posted by kparton


    This thread is wierd, but has good and noted tones which I want to clarify now.
    Lets go back 40 years ago, right.  porno was big business then, today is even more but then it was stil la big thing but it was out of the lime light..you never saw boobes, sex, etc on tv or in advertising or in games etc.
    If a film had a mild fake sex scene or boobies, it was classifed 18 or even had to be cut because it was not accepted by the viewing public and governing bodies.
    Whats happened over the years? several years ago boobies could be shown in a 15 certificate film and guess what......soon to be shown in a 12A certificat film.
    How is this possible? how does peoples additudes change to the extent that things that were not acceptable 40 years ago now become the norm? why did this happen? is there a benefit to this happening because I cant see it.
    We as people have been corrupted by all sorts, the general public is being exploted for nothing more than profitable gain and this is going to affect everyone but most imortantly of all, our children.  I have an eight year old daughter and it horrifies me to think what the worlds going to be like for her when she grows up, its scary now so god knows what its going to be like in 20 years.
    Crime is on the rise, and its only going to get worse, exposing youth to things like violence in games and film is only going to add to this...and now we've got sex in games....its not the norm yet but it only takes on game to set a trend and then everyone jumps on the band wagon.
    In 5 years time, sex in games will be the norm...the only problem is kids are exposed to them even though they should not be playing them.
    Theres always going to be two parties arguing about topics like this....the ones that are allready corrupted and have adjusted themselves to accpet this as the norm and those who can see how we're all heading towards oblivion and are scared shitless.
    Look slike you are knowing person, so let me ask (seriously):

    Why is bad to show boobies? Or sex? What harm it causes to us?

     

     

     

     

     

  • kpartonkparton Member Posts: 104

    Originally posted by Xasapis


    corrupt? Are we talking adults playing an adult game here or am I missing something? I find sex pretty normal, not sure how corrupt your idea of humanity is to think otherwise.

    You've just proved my point, please re read what I posted and then rethink about it.  your an adult, not a kid.

  • NeopsychNeopsych Member UncommonPosts: 324

    Ah, here we go.

     

    Another moralistic post that simplifies the classification of free opinion into 2 camps - and only 2. Those that agree with the opinioin maker and those that are wrong. Is your life really that simple that every choice you make, every decision you take that reflects on your childs development and your view of society can be boiled down toa yes / no decision. Is life that shallow for you?

    If you want to spend your life "scared shitless" then be my guest. Personally I believe life is to short for that.

    If you want to make sweeping generalisations about how the eveolution of society, whether you like it or not, can only be based on your own forward view, i suggest you look over your shoulder into history as well.

    Sure there are areas of societies development such as the de-sentiveisation of violence and sex that many will agree with you on, but I would also suggest that the abolition of slavery, the end of conscription, the world governments responiveness to providing aid for natural disasters, etc all highlight societies positive behaviours. Your daughter may well see a few boobs on the TV before she is 18, and I believe she make have a little taste in alcohol before then too. But I bet she is less likely to be in a workshouse at 10 years old, stuffed up a children or be left destitute in an orphanage as her parents were killed in a blitz.

    I have a unwavering faith in people as a whole and that advancement will always be 8 parts positive and 2 parts negative. I think you should have more faith in your daughter being able to absorb such changes in society and to make choices she believes are right against her own principles.

    If so, maybe she wont blame you for not starting societies trend of climate awareness earlier - you heathen.

     

    To err is human....to play is divine

  • kpartonkparton Member Posts: 104

    Originally posted by sa1yaman


     
    Originally posted by kparton


    This thread is wierd, but has good and noted tones which I want to clarify now.
    Lets go back 40 years ago, right.  porno was big business then, today is even more but then it was stil la big thing but it was out of the lime light..you never saw boobes, sex, etc on tv or in advertising or in games etc.
    If a film had a mild fake sex scene or boobies, it was classifed 18 or even had to be cut because it was not accepted by the viewing public and governing bodies.
    Whats happened over the years? several years ago boobies could be shown in a 15 certificate film and guess what......soon to be shown in a 12A certificat film.
    How is this possible? how does peoples additudes change to the extent that things that were not acceptable 40 years ago now become the norm? why did this happen? is there a benefit to this happening because I cant see it.
    We as people have been corrupted by all sorts, the general public is being exploted for nothing more than profitable gain and this is going to affect everyone but most imortantly of all, our children.  I have an eight year old daughter and it horrifies me to think what the worlds going to be like for her when she grows up, its scary now so god knows what its going to be like in 20 years.
    Crime is on the rise, and its only going to get worse, exposing youth to things like violence in games and film is only going to add to this...and now we've got sex in games....its not the norm yet but it only takes on game to set a trend and then everyone jumps on the band wagon.
    In 5 years time, sex in games will be the norm...the only problem is kids are exposed to them even though they should not be playing them.
    Theres always going to be two parties arguing about topics like this....the ones that are allready corrupted and have adjusted themselves to accpet this as the norm and those who can see how we're all heading towards oblivion and are scared shitless.
    Look slike you are knowing person, so let me ask (seriously):

     

    Why is bad to show boobies? Or sex? What harm it causes to us?

     

     

     

     

     

    As adults....nothing. why would it not be aceptable?

    To kids, is it acceptable? no matter how much you argue the toss about AoC being a adult game so only adults play it it just doesnt wash with me.

    How many people do you know that watch or play films or games intended for older people? I bet everyone on this forum watched an 18 certificate film when they were between 12 - 16.... and I bet most of you would argue that its ok but thats what I'd expect from someone whos has become exploted and honestly believes its the norm.....and comptly missing the point of its an 18 certificate for a reason.

    And that re-enforces my point, AoC is an game which is going to be played if not allready by people that are not as mature as its intended audience.

  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    I don't find myself corrupted by the presence of sexual references and nudity in a game targetted towards adults. Why would you?

    Perhaps it's probably down to cultural differences if anything else.

    In any case, a partially covered body can be more arusing than full nudity.

     

    Edit: Since kids MIGHT watch material not intented for them, no material created for adults should be made? Where the the logic in this? Hello Kitty MMO is our only viable choice then?

  • kpartonkparton Member Posts: 104

    Originally posted by Xasapis


    I don't find myself corrupted by the presence of sexual references and nudity in a game targetted towards adults. Why would you?
    Perhaps it's probably down to cultural differences if anything else.
    In any case, a partially covered body can be more arusing than full nudity.
     
    Edit: Since kids MIGHT watch material not intented for them, no material created for adults should be made? Where the the logic in this? Hello Kitty MMO is our only viable choice then?
    No no no, your missing the point.

    in simple terms, why do things which as people we found unacceptable 30 years ago now become acceptable?  why and for what benefit?

    For example, imagine a game created 20 years ago, its got an 18 certificate and only 18+ year olds play it.  then after 10 years, the criteria which makes a film or game classifed as 18 is changed to a 15 certificate...so basically what was not ok for a 15 year old 10 years ago is now ok.

    Ask yourself why.

    and then ask yourself whats next.

    ....lowering the criteria to a 12 certificate?  your naive if you think it wont happen.

  • NeopsychNeopsych Member UncommonPosts: 324

    Same argument for why things that were deemed acceptable 20 years ago are now deemed unacceptable.

    With respect to gaming in society, 20 years ago it was at the start of a growth curve. techology was low and games were simple crafted affairs that were the bedroom based toys of a quiet and young culture.

    That generation has grown and are adults, still passionate about a massive media phenomenum and revenue making industry that demand more from their chosen entertainment. I dont want to play Pac man and Pyjamara any more. I want adult games with serious themes. i want Deux Ex storylines over Leisure Suit Larry.

    The industry will respond beacuse the adults have the cash, this generation of gaming adults is largely the original customer base and we pass that down to our kids.

    I want the industry to allow me thought proking adult content - its my job to police what my children are exposed to in the same as it is for drugs and alcohol. Will I shield them from everything? No, and in some ways it would be harmful to do so. But I will not blame the industry for corruptng the next generation just because it will try to naturally cater to the widest player base possible.

     

    To err is human....to play is divine

  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    You assume that 20 years earlier morality was in better shape than it is today, which I disagree. It's like those grandparents of every generation talking about how things in their own time were so much better. Which they were not. Lets face it, the corruption was there, it just had a different face.

    Besides, I'm not all that sure that 20-30 years ago people were better than what we are today. It's more like we're coming out of the dark ages into enlightment in a lot of things.

    What changed from the past is the exposure to more information. We are just more aware of the world around us and we will be more aware in the future.

  • NeopsychNeopsych Member UncommonPosts: 324

    Totally agree with last post.

    The ills of society have always been present but todays media just enables you to be far more aware of them and their profiliation.

    Dont be scraed shitless, be thankful you are better informed and therefore better armed to make decisions that match your principle

    To err is human....to play is divine

  • kpartonkparton Member Posts: 104

     

    Originally posted by Xasapis


    You assume that 20 years earlier morality was in better shape than it is today, which I disagree. It's like those grandparents of every generation talking about how things in their own time were so much better. Which they were not. Lets face it, the corruption was there, it just had a different face.
    Besides, I'm not all that sure that 20-30 years ago people were better than what we are today. It's more like we're coming out of the dark ages into enlightment in a lot of things.
    What changed from the past is the exposure to more information. We are just more aware of the world around us and we will be more aware in the future.



    I never once said in any of my posts that i ASSUME or that life was in better shape then than now so please dont try and tell people I did.

     

    Sex in the media was censored for one reason and one reason alone....those who we're deemed mature enough to deal with watch they were watching/playing could do so within the law....i'm talking about 18 certificate 20 years ago.

    18 years old, we're still maturing but and more cabable of dealing with topics like this that when we were 15....most anyways...but media influence as such are now throwing things like sex and violence into our youths faces and forcing them to accept it as the norm to which we and the laws will adapt to and make it the norm...for what reason?

    There is no god damn reason except to exploit and make money.

    were allready half way there, too many immature people having to deal with things that they should not have to deal with at thier age

     

  • eugameugam Member UncommonPosts: 984

    Originally posted by Xasapis


    You assume that 20 years earlier morality was in better shape than it is today, which I disagree. It's like those grandparents of every generation talking about how things in their own time were so much better. Which they were not. Lets face it, the corruption was there, it just had a different face.
    Besides, I'm not all that sure that 20-30 years ago people were better than what we are today. It's more like we're coming out of the dark ages into enlightment in a lot of things.
    What changed from the past is the exposure to more information. We are just more aware of the world around us and we will be more aware in the future.
    You may be right in the big picture (from babylon till today) But there always have been tops and lows. Right now we are goind downhill and things have been better as far as i can remember personally (which is half a century ;) ).

     

    Its also in the eye of the beholder. Many schools teach how civilized the romans where. Actually the celtics had a much more advanced culture then the romans. Celtics had laws of protection of old people and children while the romans just have thrown their unwanted babies onto the waste dump. Celtic womans have been equal while the roman womens have been house pets.

     

    The modern western world is much more "roman"then "celtic". Thats why i think thibgs have been better :) Its not that i really care, but i just inserted DVD2 and the installation takes ages. Cant wait to patch for another few hours :P

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  • IchbenIchben Member UncommonPosts: 296
    Originally posted by Praetoriani


     
    Originally posted by Ichben


     
    Originally posted by HashBrick


     

    Originally posted by Ichben


    Originally posted by rshandlon
     
    One of the best examples of Sarcasm I have ever seen. to the OP, you get a +10 interweb points for this post. Seeing all the lamers coming here and posting how the game sucks so much after playing it for a few hours has been a total joke and I love how the OP has taken it and made fun of those threads in the best way possible.



    Anyone who thinks this was a serious thread really needs to step back and take a breather for once.

     
    Rshandlon I was not trying to be sarcastic nor was I trying to be funny. I was serial when I said that the community broke my heart. I was also serial when I said the boobs made me angry.

    You sir are a troll and if you continue to be a troll I will have to report you and have you banned from this forum for not taking me serially. Is that clear young man. IS THAT CLEAR YOU MEANY!!!!!

    Ichben Einberliner

     

    It's KingCarebear in disguise, the first give away is the name changing on the bottom of each post. Either way it was a good laugh.

    HasBrick, I am not KingCarebear. I have no idea where you got that idea from. But it is WAY OFF!!! Don't get me wrong. I am flattered that you would think I was the great KingCarebear. I really am.

     

    I look up to him. He's like a father to me and I will always love him. He will always be my "true" daddy.

    Ichy

     

    What happened to the Crimson King?

    Oh Geez Praetoriani, why'd you have to bring him up??? *sigh*

    The Crimson King is indeed my father, but he is a bad father, a mean father, a nasty father. He never knew the face of his father and he never will. He never loved me and I never loved him. The only man I truely care for, the only man I truely love. Is the one, the only, KingCarebear. He in my eyes, is my TRUE father. He in my eyes is the father I never had.

    The Red Daddy is still around, he is still walking and he is still breathing. And yet, to my dismay, he is still bad and he is still mad. May the gods have mercy on my soul. And his as well, if he even has one. :-(

    Ichben

    facebook.com/Ichben.Einberliner

  • IchbenIchben Member UncommonPosts: 296

    Originally posted by eugam


     
    Originally posted by Xasapis


    You assume that 20 years earlier morality was in better shape than it is today, which I disagree. It's like those grandparents of every generation talking about how things in their own time were so much better. Which they were not. Lets face it, the corruption was there, it just had a different face.
    Besides, I'm not all that sure that 20-30 years ago people were better than what we are today. It's more like we're coming out of the dark ages into enlightment in a lot of things.
    What changed from the past is the exposure to more information. We are just more aware of the world around us and we will be more aware in the future.
    You may be right in the big picture (from babylon till today) But there always have been tops and lows. Right now we are goind downhill and things have been better as far as i can remember personally (which is half a century ;) ).

     

     

    Its also in the eye of the beholder. Many schools teach how civilized the romans where. Actually the celtics had a much more advanced culture then the romans. Celtics had laws of protection of old people and children while the romans just have thrown their unwanted babies onto the waste dump. Celtic womans have been equal while the roman womens have been house pets.

     

    The modern western world is much more "roman"then "celtic". Thats why i think thibgs have been better :) Its not that i really care, but i just inserted DVD2 and the installation takes ages. Cant wait to patch for another few hours :P


    I really appreciate the good conversation guys. Really great feedback. I really mean that. I do. It's refreshing to have discussions of substance discussed on this board. It really makes me happy.

    Ichben

    facebook.com/Ichben.Einberliner

  • seanseanseansean Member Posts: 119
    Originally posted by Ichben


    I'm sorry guys, I had to do it. I had to leave the game. I had to cancel my subscription because the game just wasn't for me. I couldn't take the eye candy. I couldn't stand the boobs looking at me, staring at me, enticing me to play with them. Enticing me to love them. I do not like being mocked and those nasty little booblets were mocking me and I couldn't take it.
    I could not stand the blood and the gore. It was too much for me. It was too much for my soul. I love the color purple but I hate the color red and Age of Conan was filled with red. It was filled with gore. It was filled with sadness and it was filled with tears.
    And than there was the community. Those people were so mean to me. Espically the kids. Who would have thought the sweet little kiddies could be so cruel and have such foul mouths. They called me all kinds of names. One even told me to go play in traffic, can you believe that?!?! I thought this would be a place where I could make friends but after a few hours of in game play, I was sadly mistaken. Nobody would listen to me. Nobody wanted to talk or share. All they wanted to do was kill stuff, while beating their chest to prove their manliness in battle. All I wanted to do in game was help people. I wanted to form friendships and bonds that would last for a very long time. Sadly I do not think this will ever happen. And with a heavy heart. I must say my goodbyes.
    My only hope is that in another world and another time I will have my place in the spotlight. My time to shine will be soon and it will be glorious. In the meantime I must continue my quest for that next big thing. Someday I will find my perfect game and my perfect game will find me. And than, I will be happy. I will be free. I will be loved. Farewell my friends....I love you all.
    Ichben Einberliner
     
    Sarcasm score 10/10 I can't wait to play, soon as I upgrade my rig..

     

  • JirelJirel Member Posts: 90

    How many people do you know that watch or play films or games intended for older people? I bet everyone on this forum watched an 18 certificate film when they were between 12 - 16.... and I bet most of you would argue that its ok but thats what I'd expect from someone whos has become exploted and honestly believes its the norm.....and comptly missing the point of its an 18 certificate for a reason.

    Wrong!  When I was a kid it was PG, R or X.  I saw R rated films when I was around 17 or so - in the company of my mother.  I didn't see what would be termed an X rated film until I was in my 30s, don't have any need for it.  So much for your porn desensitization. Some people sneak in, some don't.  The ones that do happen to show up more online.

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