I am in agreeance with those that feel that exploiting the game is cheating. It all boils down to uber guilds taking advantage of an unfair situation and then later using it to gain control of a games economy where it ends up costing 100 plat for a spiked club. And if you aren't in one those uber guilds later on when raid and epic gear come out, you aren't getting it because you can't afford thier prices and you aren't in thier guild.
Now this might be an extreme look at things or even slightly dramatic, but in the end, you add enough "little" exploits up and super guilds with massive numbers, you end up with economical domination in a virtual world where everyone pays the same monthly fee and deserves the same chances and opportunities to have fun.
Hell yes they should be hit hard. They should have their accounts banned and ip addresses as well. Cheaters never win, and they never stop. Once a cheater, always a cheater. If you have to cheat in a game or "take advantage" (same damn thing as cheating), then you fail and should not complain.
Exploit means working AROUND game mechanics. Meaning, you can magically duplicate items by performing a sequence of events that leads to that end.
Finding broken game mechanics and using them is not using an exploit or cheating. Meaning, you find a quest that can be repeated that is not normally repeatable and you do it a couple times or as many as you want.
If AoC is banning people because of their broken mechanics this will be THE FIRST MMO to do so. Not one single MMO before this has banned people for doing such things. They just hotfix the situation and move on, cause they know its their fault.
Exploit means working AROUND game mechanics. Meaning, you can magically duplicate items by performing a sequence of events that leads to that end. Finding broken game mechanics and using them is not using an exploit or cheating. Meaning, you find a quest that can be repeated that is not normally repeatable and you do it a couple times or as many as you want. If AoC is banning people because of their broken mechanics this will be THE FIRST MMO to do so. Not one single MMO before this has banned people for doing such things. They just hotfix the situation and move on, cause they know its their fault.
what are you talking about? There is a difference from finding and reporting than finding and taking advantage. Funcom is not the first. Lineage 2 banned thousands of accounts for exploits. Hundreds within the first month.
jesus fucking christ some of you people need to get the fuck outside and get some air. Funcom releases a halfassed finished product people trip onto finding an exploit and for whatever reason you believe they should be banned without question... Fucking hipocracy at it's best. Let them sort it out on a per account basis. Funcom should own up to the fact they're charging people real life money for unfished goods. They remind me of fuckin Nazi's and most of you fuckers are condoning it. Let's see what the game looks like when all the gold sellers set up shop..which one of you fucks is gonna keep tabs then? Never mind the fact that alot of people can't access the god damned forums to say boo shit..let alone get any feedback from someone. Oust the gold sellers, probation is what exploiters deserve less they're proven to be repetitive then sure ban em. but you people with your holier then thow attitude sicken the fuck outta me. How about funcom put so much effort into clearing up the fucked up aspects of the game? How about funcom open up the lines of communication as opposed to sensorshiplike nazi fuckwads?
Guess what? FunCom just did that by this decision. Somebody fucked up the game. They're fixing it.
"I used to think the worst thing in life was to be all alone. It's not. The worst thing in life is to end up with people who make you feel all alone." Robin Williams
Taking advantage of is still exploiting and cheating. It's not something you do, even if it accessible. You should quit being an engineer and start being a defense lawyer for rapists. I can see it now...
"Your honor, she was walking alone in a dark alley. She obviously provoked my client into raping her. He did nothing wrong, he followed all the system's rules. He walked, he approached her, bound her, gagged her, and so on. Reality works in a way that these actions are fair game. And honestly, I don't think rape is the correct term since she was openly available to the act. Surprise sex is more like it."
Exploit means working AROUND game mechanics. Meaning, you can magically duplicate items by performing a sequence of events that leads to that end. Finding broken game mechanics and using them is not using an exploit or cheating. Meaning, you find a quest that can be repeated that is not normally repeatable and you do it a couple times or as many as you want. If AoC is banning people because of their broken mechanics this will be THE FIRST MMO to do so. Not one single MMO before this has banned people for doing such things. They just hotfix the situation and move on, cause they know its their fault.
GREAT! I'm glad to see Funcom making people pay for their actions. Regardless if they exploited or went around game mechanics, they KNEW what they were doing. You can't tell me these people thought Funcom put a repeatable quest in to give people an avenue to get from 35 to 80 in two days do you? Now, if they'd open Griefer's Prison tomorrow and deal with gankers and griefers with just a heavy of a hand, they would be two for two and deserve my business regardless of missing content or not!
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
people should be banned, provided they were aware it was a bug they were exploiting. For some bugs this may be obvious, for others more obscure however...
Don't kid yourself.
If I am getting an amount of gold that doesn't quite fit with what I have experienced before...I know it is an exploit. Problem is now we have the television market upon our shoulders. I want it I want it now. Sneak steal get it anyway you can. Sad state of affairs. If you are here you know if you are cheating.
Let me ask you this.......if you didn't find an abscene amount of gold or experience would you go back and kill ten flibbers again. I would hope not move on. Your argument has no value here.
Just think...in a few weeks all the schools would have been let out and even more players. Funcom has released to make the most money.....I just hope for me...after following game for a cuple years...don't let me down.
well, I was simply making a general comment on bugs and how obvious they are. I agree that for this one in particular, there is no denying everyone knew what they were doing...
Exploit means working AROUND game mechanics. Meaning, you can magically duplicate items by performing a sequence of events that leads to that end. Finding broken game mechanics and using them is not using an exploit or cheating. Meaning, you find a quest that can be repeated that is not normally repeatable and you do it a couple times or as many as you want. If AoC is banning people because of their broken mechanics this will be THE FIRST MMO to do so. Not one single MMO before this has banned people for doing such things. They just hotfix the situation and move on, cause they know its their fault.
Once you realise what you are doing you have broken your EULA. No way around it...game mechanics or not. Enjoy your legacy.
Plays game and happens upon a selling bug which gives money without taking the item. Not sure what happens does the same thing but then realizes something is wrong. Moves forward and sells again and then continues to play the game. This person is lazy and decides not to note the bug, and soon forgets about it. Nothing will happen to this person. They did not exploit anything.
Person B
Same as person A they happen upon the bug. They continue to use it to make additional money. They tell their friends and/or guildmates who also use the bug to make money. They are EXPLOITING. These are the people that FUNCOM went after. These are the people that none of us want to see in the game. These are the ones who deserved to have their banks and guide coffers reset to zero and their characters banned. These are the ones that destroy the economy and game for the majority of players in the game.
Justice in this case was served and I hope it sends a strong message that FUNCOM will protect their in game economy and I hope they will stay the course on this.
Justice in this case was served and I hope it sends a strong message that FUNCOM will protect their in game economy and I hope they will stay the course on this.
Reading that at the end reminds me of what they did at Sigil with Vanguard. They would broadcast to everyone about taking down another gold seller. It's too bad Funcom can't or won't, whichever it is, broadcast across all servers about an exploiter/gold seller when they commit these acts.
The humiliation would be worth it or just for the laughs.
Justice in this case was served and I hope it sends a strong message that FUNCOM will protect their in game economy and I hope they will stay the course on this.
Reading that at the end reminds me of what they did at Sigil with Vanguard. They would broadcast to everyone about taking down another gold seller. It's too bad Funcom can't or won't, whichever it is, broadcast across all servers about an exploiter/gold seller when they commit these acts.
The humiliation would be worth it or just for the laughs.
Heh as I had mentioned before. Ewle from Ebonlore was thrown out of game from EQ long ago hehe. Cheating and being pathetic gets you nowhere in my book. Glad to see some of the newer releases following through with some promises.
Exploit means working AROUND game mechanics. Meaning, you can magically duplicate items by performing a sequence of events that leads to that end. Finding broken game mechanics and using them is not using an exploit or cheating. Meaning, you find a quest that can be repeated that is not normally repeatable and you do it a couple times or as many as you want. If AoC is banning people because of their broken mechanics this will be THE FIRST MMO to do so. Not one single MMO before this has banned people for doing such things. They just hotfix the situation and move on, cause they know its their fault.
Once you realise what you are doing you have broken your EULA. No way around it...game mechanics or not. Enjoy your legacy.
How? They release the game with problems, why would people be penalized for their mistake? No other MMO has done this. THAT shows you that other MMO creators take reponsability for their mistakes. Other MMOs just fix the mistake and tell you that this was a mistake and no one will be able to do it again.
There a bunch of broken quests that take away the ability to level but if there is one broken in the other way it's blamed on the players?
Lets face, Funcom screwed up bad with the release of the game and instead of apologizing for that they are instead putting the blame on others, on the players. EVERYONE playing that game should be pissed at this because Funcom could pull this for any reason they want in the future.
If the were people using an exploit or if they were cheating, fine, but if dudes were just getting a bonus because Funcom put something out that was defective it isn't the players fault.
Exploit means working AROUND game mechanics. Meaning, you can magically duplicate items by performing a sequence of events that leads to that end. Finding broken game mechanics and using them is not using an exploit or cheating. Meaning, you find a quest that can be repeated that is not normally repeatable and you do it a couple times or as many as you want. If AoC is banning people because of their broken mechanics this will be THE FIRST MMO to do so. Not one single MMO before this has banned people for doing such things. They just hotfix the situation and move on, cause they know its their fault.
Once you realise what you are doing you have broken your EULA. No way around it...game mechanics or not. Enjoy your legacy.
How? They release the game with problems, why would people be penalized for their mistake? No other MMO has done this. THAT shows you that other MMO creators take reponsability for their mistakes. Other MMOs just fix the mistake and tell you that this was a mistake and no one will be able to do it again.
There a bunch of broken quests that take away the ability to level but if there is one broken in the other way it's blamed on the players?
Lets face, Funcom screwed up bad with the release of the game and instead of apologizing for that they are instead putting the blame on others, on the players. EVERYONE playing that game should be pissed at this because Funcom could pull this for any reason they want in the future.
If the were people using an exploit or if they were cheating, fine, but if dudes were just getting a bonus because Funcom put something out that was defective it isn't the players fault.
Sorry, read your agreement. You broke the rules, suffer. Take it to court see what happens.
Exploit means working AROUND game mechanics. Meaning, you can magically duplicate items by performing a sequence of events that leads to that end. Finding broken game mechanics and using them is not using an exploit or cheating. Meaning, you find a quest that can be repeated that is not normally repeatable and you do it a couple times or as many as you want. If AoC is banning people because of their broken mechanics this will be THE FIRST MMO to do so. Not one single MMO before this has banned people for doing such things. They just hotfix the situation and move on, cause they know its their fault.
Once you realise what you are doing you have broken your EULA. No way around it...game mechanics or not. Enjoy your legacy.
How? They release the game with problems, why would people be penalized for their mistake? No other MMO has done this. THAT shows you that other MMO creators take reponsability for their mistakes. Other MMOs just fix the mistake and tell you that this was a mistake and no one will be able to do it again.
There a bunch of broken quests that take away the ability to level but if there is one broken in the other way it's blamed on the players?
Lets face, Funcom screwed up bad with the release of the game and instead of apologizing for that they are instead putting the blame on others, on the players. EVERYONE playing that game should be pissed at this because Funcom could pull this for any reason they want in the future.
If the were people using an exploit or if they were cheating, fine, but if dudes were just getting a bonus because Funcom put something out that was defective it isn't the players fault.
Think this guy answered you good:
Originally posted by llintner
Person A Plays game and happens upon a selling bug which gives money without taking the item. Not sure what happens does the same thing but then realizes something is wrong. Moves forward and sells again and then continues to play the game. This person is lazy and decides not to note the bug, and soon forgets about it. Nothing will happen to this person. They did not exploit anything.
Person B Same as person A they happen upon the bug. They continue to use it to make additional money. They tell their friends and/or guildmates who also use the bug to make money. They are EXPLOITING. These are the people that FUNCOM went after. These are the people that none of us want to see in the game. These are the ones who deserved to have their banks and guide coffers reset to zero and their characters banned. These are the ones that destroy the economy and game for the majority of players in the game. Justice in this case was served and I hope it sends a strong message that FUNCOM will protect their in game economy and I hope they will stay the course on this.
As far as things not being in game...yes you have a complaint, but nobody has taken it to court yet. An example...FLS released Pirates of the Burning Sea. It says on the packaging hundreds of ports. There are less than 100. Get your money back friends. Complete lie.
Does anybody initiate that...no. Neither will you. I mentioned a case of their breaking a promise to us. You mention a case of your breaking a promise to them. Don't even try to justify it. You have no legal foundation for it.
Exploit means working AROUND game mechanics. Meaning, you can magically duplicate items by performing a sequence of events that leads to that end. Finding broken game mechanics and using them is not using an exploit or cheating. Meaning, you find a quest that can be repeated that is not normally repeatable and you do it a couple times or as many as you want. If AoC is banning people because of their broken mechanics this will be THE FIRST MMO to do so. Not one single MMO before this has banned people for doing such things. They just hotfix the situation and move on, cause they know its their fault.
Once you realise what you are doing you have broken your EULA. No way around it...game mechanics or not. Enjoy your legacy.
How? They release the game with problems, why would people be penalized for their mistake? No other MMO has done this. THAT shows you that other MMO creators take reponsability for their mistakes. Other MMOs just fix the mistake and tell you that this was a mistake and no one will be able to do it again.
There a bunch of broken quests that take away the ability to level but if there is one broken in the other way it's blamed on the players?
Lets face, Funcom screwed up bad with the release of the game and instead of apologizing for that they are instead putting the blame on others, on the players. EVERYONE playing that game should be pissed at this because Funcom could pull this for any reason they want in the future.
If the were people using an exploit or if they were cheating, fine, but if dudes were just getting a bonus because Funcom put something out that was defective it isn't the players fault.
Sorry, read your agreement. You broke the rules, suffer. Take it to court see what happens.
What rules?
Show me the rules that says that you can be penalized for a game bug. Because if there is such a rule.... I'm pretty sure that at least half of the population of AoC should be gone because I'm pretty sure that at least half the population has encounter some bug. From a random monster acting stupid to a random drop that wasn't supposed to happen.
You people are not understanding the severity of the situation.
How? They release the game with problems, why would people be penalized for their mistake? No other MMO has done this. THAT shows you that other MMO creators take reponsability for their mistakes. Other MMOs just fix the mistake and tell you that this was a mistake and no one will be able to do it again. There a bunch of broken quests that take away the ability to level but if there is one broken in the other way it's blamed on the players? Lets face, Funcom screwed up bad with the release of the game and instead of apologizing for that they are instead putting the blame on others, on the players. EVERYONE playing that game should be angry at this because Funcom could pull this for any reason they want in the future. If the were people using an exploit or if they were cheating, fine, but if dudes were just getting a bonus because Funcom put something out that was defective it isn't the players fault.
I have to disagree.
As we are real people playing these games we take our values into the game with us. (Not to mention reading & agreeing to a EULA as has been said already) I'd like to think we bring some sense of responsibility in that regard. In turn there should be punishment if not upholding to a sense of responsibility.
You know the saying no doubt. If it quacks like a duck...walks like a duck...well if you think something is going to have ill effects like this then something should tell you in your heart not to do it.
Lets say you work in a RL bank and you find a loophole in the security system that allows you to draw money. I want to see how somebody would justify a theft like this to a judge. "It wasn't my fault but the bank's that allowed me to take the money".
Exploiting in the game is hardly as severe as stealing a bank. Thus you usually just lose your account when performing such acts. Trying to justify the exploit by claiming it was the company's fault is as hilarious as trying to justify the theft in the example above.
The principles and morals behind those two examples are the same. The scale is just different.
Exploit means working AROUND game mechanics. Meaning, you can magically duplicate items by performing a sequence of events that leads to that end. Finding broken game mechanics and using them is not using an exploit or cheating. Meaning, you find a quest that can be repeated that is not normally repeatable and you do it a couple times or as many as you want. If AoC is banning people because of their broken mechanics this will be THE FIRST MMO to do so. Not one single MMO before this has banned people for doing such things. They just hotfix the situation and move on, cause they know its their fault.
Once you realise what you are doing you have broken your EULA. No way around it...game mechanics or not. Enjoy your legacy.
How? They release the game with problems, why would people be penalized for their mistake? No other MMO has done this. THAT shows you that other MMO creators take reponsability for their mistakes. Other MMOs just fix the mistake and tell you that this was a mistake and no one will be able to do it again.
There a bunch of broken quests that take away the ability to level but if there is one broken in the other way it's blamed on the players?
Lets face, Funcom screwed up bad with the release of the game and instead of apologizing for that they are instead putting the blame on others, on the players. EVERYONE playing that game should be pissed at this because Funcom could pull this for any reason they want in the future.
If the were people using an exploit or if they were cheating, fine, but if dudes were just getting a bonus because Funcom put something out that was defective it isn't the players fault.
Sorry, read your agreement. You broke the rules, suffer. Take it to court see what happens.
What rules?
Show me the rules that says that you can be penalized for a game bug. Because if there is such a rule.... I'm pretty sure that at least half of the population of AoC should be gone because I'm pretty sure that at least half the population has encounter some bug. From a random monster acting stupid to a random drop that wasn't supposed to happen.
You people are not understanding the severity of the situation.
I know you mean well, but have you ever read the EULA....you know that little button you click to be able to play?
It's a catch all for liability. Did you think it was something else?
Show me the rules that says that you can be penalized for a game bug. Because if there is such a rule.... I'm pretty sure that at least half of the population of AoC should be gone because I'm pretty sure that at least half the population has encounter some bug. From a random monster acting stupid to a random drop that wasn't supposed to happen. You people are not understanding the severity of the situation.
Its big difference between encounter a bug and exploiting a bug. The latter is breaking the in game eula that you accepted when logged in (don’t have the text in front of me at work, but others can probably get the reference or I can do that when I get home). If you do exploit a bug, you deserve to get banned.
Show me the rules that says that you can be penalized for a game bug. Because if there is such a rule.... I'm pretty sure that at least half of the population of AoC should be gone because I'm pretty sure that at least half the population has encounter some bug. From a random monster acting stupid to a random drop that wasn't supposed to happen. You people are not understanding the severity of the situation.
Its big difference between encounter a bug and exploiting a bug. The latter is breaking the in game eula that you accepted when logged in (don’t have the text in front of me at work, but others can probably get the reference or I can do that when I get home). If you do exploit a bug, you deserve to get banned.
Again, show me where in the EULA does it say that if you use a bug you can be penalized.
And again, do not confused working around a game mechanic with working with a broken game mechanic.
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I am in agreeance with those that feel that exploiting the game is cheating. It all boils down to uber guilds taking advantage of an unfair situation and then later using it to gain control of a games economy where it ends up costing 100 plat for a spiked club. And if you aren't in one those uber guilds later on when raid and epic gear come out, you aren't getting it because you can't afford thier prices and you aren't in thier guild.
Now this might be an extreme look at things or even slightly dramatic, but in the end, you add enough "little" exploits up and super guilds with massive numbers, you end up with economical domination in a virtual world where everyone pays the same monthly fee and deserves the same chances and opportunities to have fun.
A tiny mind is a tidy mind...
Hell yes they should be hit hard. They should have their accounts banned and ip addresses as well. Cheaters never win, and they never stop. Once a cheater, always a cheater. If you have to cheat in a game or "take advantage" (same damn thing as cheating), then you fail and should not complain.
Exploit means working AROUND game mechanics. Meaning, you can magically duplicate items by performing a sequence of events that leads to that end.
Finding broken game mechanics and using them is not using an exploit or cheating. Meaning, you find a quest that can be repeated that is not normally repeatable and you do it a couple times or as many as you want.
If AoC is banning people because of their broken mechanics this will be THE FIRST MMO to do so. Not one single MMO before this has banned people for doing such things. They just hotfix the situation and move on, cause they know its their fault.
MMEEEEEHHHHH!!!
what are you talking about? There is a difference from finding and reporting than finding and taking advantage. Funcom is not the first. Lineage 2 banned thousands of accounts for exploits. Hundreds within the first month.
Guess what? FunCom just did that by this decision. Somebody fucked up the game. They're fixing it.
Dear OP,
Taking advantage of is still exploiting and cheating. It's not something you do, even if it accessible. You should quit being an engineer and start being a defense lawyer for rapists. I can see it now...
"Your honor, she was walking alone in a dark alley. She obviously provoked my client into raping her. He did nothing wrong, he followed all the system's rules. He walked, he approached her, bound her, gagged her, and so on. Reality works in a way that these actions are fair game. And honestly, I don't think rape is the correct term since she was openly available to the act. Surprise sex is more like it."
QQ OP
GREAT! I'm glad to see Funcom making people pay for their actions. Regardless if they exploited or went around game mechanics, they KNEW what they were doing. You can't tell me these people thought Funcom put a repeatable quest in to give people an avenue to get from 35 to 80 in two days do you? Now, if they'd open Griefer's Prison tomorrow and deal with gankers and griefers with just a heavy of a hand, they would be two for two and deserve my business regardless of missing content or not!
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
Don't kid yourself.
If I am getting an amount of gold that doesn't quite fit with what I have experienced before...I know it is an exploit. Problem is now we have the television market upon our shoulders. I want it I want it now. Sneak steal get it anyway you can. Sad state of affairs. If you are here you know if you are cheating.
Let me ask you this.......if you didn't find an abscene amount of gold or experience would you go back and kill ten flibbers again. I would hope not move on. Your argument has no value here.
Just think...in a few weeks all the schools would have been let out and even more players. Funcom has released to make the most money.....I just hope for me...after following game for a cuple years...don't let me down.
well, I was simply making a general comment on bugs and how obvious they are. I agree that for this one in particular, there is no denying everyone knew what they were doing...
Once you realise what you are doing you have broken your EULA. No way around it...game mechanics or not. Enjoy your legacy.
Person A
Plays game and happens upon a selling bug which gives money without taking the item. Not sure what happens does the same thing but then realizes something is wrong. Moves forward and sells again and then continues to play the game. This person is lazy and decides not to note the bug, and soon forgets about it. Nothing will happen to this person. They did not exploit anything.
Person B
Same as person A they happen upon the bug. They continue to use it to make additional money. They tell their friends and/or guildmates who also use the bug to make money. They are EXPLOITING. These are the people that FUNCOM went after. These are the people that none of us want to see in the game. These are the ones who deserved to have their banks and guide coffers reset to zero and their characters banned. These are the ones that destroy the economy and game for the majority of players in the game.
Justice in this case was served and I hope it sends a strong message that FUNCOM will protect their in game economy and I hope they will stay the course on this.
Look at it this way OP, your guild still has their levels. Go gank some lowbies and prove how fantastically amazing you are in skills.
P.S. How is 80 in game?
The humiliation would be worth it or just for the laughs.
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The humiliation would be worth it or just for the laughs.
Heh as I had mentioned before. Ewle from Ebonlore was thrown out of game from EQ long ago hehe. Cheating and being pathetic gets you nowhere in my book. Glad to see some of the newer releases following through with some promises.
There shouldn't be any leniency on this issue. If players are exploiting/cheating then it makes sense Funcom bans them.
They don't want their game hacked up in the first month it's out.
WoW fanboi: "lolz 11.5 million customers, itz obviously da best"
McDonald's: over 1 billion burgers served
Once you realise what you are doing you have broken your EULA. No way around it...game mechanics or not. Enjoy your legacy.
How? They release the game with problems, why would people be penalized for their mistake? No other MMO has done this. THAT shows you that other MMO creators take reponsability for their mistakes. Other MMOs just fix the mistake and tell you that this was a mistake and no one will be able to do it again.
There a bunch of broken quests that take away the ability to level but if there is one broken in the other way it's blamed on the players?
Lets face, Funcom screwed up bad with the release of the game and instead of apologizing for that they are instead putting the blame on others, on the players. EVERYONE playing that game should be pissed at this because Funcom could pull this for any reason they want in the future.
If the were people using an exploit or if they were cheating, fine, but if dudes were just getting a bonus because Funcom put something out that was defective it isn't the players fault.
MMEEEEEHHHHH!!!
Once you realise what you are doing you have broken your EULA. No way around it...game mechanics or not. Enjoy your legacy.
How? They release the game with problems, why would people be penalized for their mistake? No other MMO has done this. THAT shows you that other MMO creators take reponsability for their mistakes. Other MMOs just fix the mistake and tell you that this was a mistake and no one will be able to do it again.
There a bunch of broken quests that take away the ability to level but if there is one broken in the other way it's blamed on the players?
Lets face, Funcom screwed up bad with the release of the game and instead of apologizing for that they are instead putting the blame on others, on the players. EVERYONE playing that game should be pissed at this because Funcom could pull this for any reason they want in the future.
If the were people using an exploit or if they were cheating, fine, but if dudes were just getting a bonus because Funcom put something out that was defective it isn't the players fault.
Sorry, read your agreement. You broke the rules, suffer. Take it to court see what happens.
Once you realise what you are doing you have broken your EULA. No way around it...game mechanics or not. Enjoy your legacy.
How? They release the game with problems, why would people be penalized for their mistake? No other MMO has done this. THAT shows you that other MMO creators take reponsability for their mistakes. Other MMOs just fix the mistake and tell you that this was a mistake and no one will be able to do it again.
There a bunch of broken quests that take away the ability to level but if there is one broken in the other way it's blamed on the players?
Lets face, Funcom screwed up bad with the release of the game and instead of apologizing for that they are instead putting the blame on others, on the players. EVERYONE playing that game should be pissed at this because Funcom could pull this for any reason they want in the future.
If the were people using an exploit or if they were cheating, fine, but if dudes were just getting a bonus because Funcom put something out that was defective it isn't the players fault.
Think this guy answered you good:
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Leemeg.
As far as things not being in game...yes you have a complaint, but nobody has taken it to court yet. An example...FLS released Pirates of the Burning Sea. It says on the packaging hundreds of ports. There are less than 100. Get your money back friends. Complete lie.
Does anybody initiate that...no. Neither will you. I mentioned a case of their breaking a promise to us. You mention a case of your breaking a promise to them. Don't even try to justify it. You have no legal foundation for it.
Once you realise what you are doing you have broken your EULA. No way around it...game mechanics or not. Enjoy your legacy.
How? They release the game with problems, why would people be penalized for their mistake? No other MMO has done this. THAT shows you that other MMO creators take reponsability for their mistakes. Other MMOs just fix the mistake and tell you that this was a mistake and no one will be able to do it again.
There a bunch of broken quests that take away the ability to level but if there is one broken in the other way it's blamed on the players?
Lets face, Funcom screwed up bad with the release of the game and instead of apologizing for that they are instead putting the blame on others, on the players. EVERYONE playing that game should be pissed at this because Funcom could pull this for any reason they want in the future.
If the were people using an exploit or if they were cheating, fine, but if dudes were just getting a bonus because Funcom put something out that was defective it isn't the players fault.
Sorry, read your agreement. You broke the rules, suffer. Take it to court see what happens.
What rules?
Show me the rules that says that you can be penalized for a game bug. Because if there is such a rule.... I'm pretty sure that at least half of the population of AoC should be gone because I'm pretty sure that at least half the population has encounter some bug. From a random monster acting stupid to a random drop that wasn't supposed to happen.
You people are not understanding the severity of the situation.
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I have to disagree.
As we are real people playing these games we take our values into the game with us. (Not to mention reading & agreeing to a EULA as has been said already) I'd like to think we bring some sense of responsibility in that regard. In turn there should be punishment if not upholding to a sense of responsibility.
You know the saying no doubt. If it quacks like a duck...walks like a duck...well if you think something is going to have ill effects like this then something should tell you in your heart not to do it.
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Lets say you work in a RL bank and you find a loophole in the security system that allows you to draw money. I want to see how somebody would justify a theft like this to a judge. "It wasn't my fault but the bank's that allowed me to take the money".
Exploiting in the game is hardly as severe as stealing a bank. Thus you usually just lose your account when performing such acts. Trying to justify the exploit by claiming it was the company's fault is as hilarious as trying to justify the theft in the example above.
The principles and morals behind those two examples are the same. The scale is just different.
Once you realise what you are doing you have broken your EULA. No way around it...game mechanics or not. Enjoy your legacy.
How? They release the game with problems, why would people be penalized for their mistake? No other MMO has done this. THAT shows you that other MMO creators take reponsability for their mistakes. Other MMOs just fix the mistake and tell you that this was a mistake and no one will be able to do it again.
There a bunch of broken quests that take away the ability to level but if there is one broken in the other way it's blamed on the players?
Lets face, Funcom screwed up bad with the release of the game and instead of apologizing for that they are instead putting the blame on others, on the players. EVERYONE playing that game should be pissed at this because Funcom could pull this for any reason they want in the future.
If the were people using an exploit or if they were cheating, fine, but if dudes were just getting a bonus because Funcom put something out that was defective it isn't the players fault.
Sorry, read your agreement. You broke the rules, suffer. Take it to court see what happens.
What rules?
Show me the rules that says that you can be penalized for a game bug. Because if there is such a rule.... I'm pretty sure that at least half of the population of AoC should be gone because I'm pretty sure that at least half the population has encounter some bug. From a random monster acting stupid to a random drop that wasn't supposed to happen.
You people are not understanding the severity of the situation.
I know you mean well, but have you ever read the EULA....you know that little button you click to be able to play?
It's a catch all for liability. Did you think it was something else?
Its big difference between encounter a bug and exploiting a bug. The latter is breaking the in game eula that you accepted when logged in (don’t have the text in front of me at work, but others can probably get the reference or I can do that when I get home). If you do exploit a bug, you deserve to get banned.
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Its big difference between encounter a bug and exploiting a bug. The latter is breaking the in game eula that you accepted when logged in (don’t have the text in front of me at work, but others can probably get the reference or I can do that when I get home). If you do exploit a bug, you deserve to get banned.
Again, show me where in the EULA does it say that if you use a bug you can be penalized.
And again, do not confused working around a game mechanic with working with a broken game mechanic.
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It's their house and their rules. They have the power to ban anyone at any time for any reason or no reason at all. And thats that.