No need to, as your post lacked any credibility. You need to understand human nature before you spout off things you have no idea about.
You were going on about things that are irrelevant and used a poor example.
Explanations:
People don't use the internet to find out and interact with restaurants predominantly yet. With MMORPGs, forums are predominantly the source of info and word-of-mouth. You have to go through the forum filter in order to even hear about the game in the first place. Like I said,people who POST are in the minority, but they reflect (you can argue chicken and the egg here) a greater majority.
I'll get to the rest of your post in a bit. Edit: Later tonight it appears. Slight issue has come about on my end.
___________________ Sadly, I see storm clouds on the horizon. A faint stench of Vanguard is in the air.-Kien
Just look at this forum. Do you really, seriously think, if so MANY post of issues, they are ALL just stupid hatebois? I mean, come on, seriously. You really should try to snap out of this defensive egomania-barrier and try to ACCEPT there MAY be a problem.
hehe, a few posters on here, a few dozen on the AoC forums, that figure is still a tiny tiny fraction of the total number of people playing the game with no problems at all.
Stop with the sweeping generalisations to justify your ramblings
I've played both Vanguard and AoC. I'm not a fanboi of either game. I can honestly say that AoC is WAY better than Vanguard was at its launch. Is it great? No, but most mmo's arent when they first launch. Trust me I've played enough of them to know. AoC is a good game, in time it will get better. All of you who are proclaiming that the sky is falling need to go take one of your mommies xanax and chill. Its really not that bad...
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MMORPGs, forums are predominantly the source of info and word-of-mouth. You have to go through the forum filter in order to even hear about the game in the first place. Like I said,people who POST are in the minority, but they reflect (you can argue chicken and the egg here) a greater majority.
I'll get to the rest of your post in a bit.
Word of mouth factors in, yes.
Predominantly through Forums? Mmm... No.
Forum posters are not just the minority, we're the minority of a minority -- most people either very rarely, or almost never touch forum discussions. This is why everyone cries when something is nerfed that it's because of the whiny forum posters who try to convince everyone that their class is overpowered.
To call a vocal minority an accurate depiction of the community is unreliable at best.
People don't use the internet to talk about restaurants, but they don't have to -- they talk to friends who also live close by who have gone there. If I tell my friend I'm going to Chili's, he's more likely to make a comment if he hates the place.
Watching this whole thing unfold has been more entertaining than the game by far. I have even gotten my friends and family, who don't even play AoC themselves, to read some of these fanatical replies made in defense of FunCom. We really, honestly, burst out laughing and proceed to talk about it long after we have left the room.
We have started making jokes using the zealots replies as a base now too. The fanatically disturbed so obviously intend to force their will and vision upon others, that their comments wind up being comedy gold. My moms favorite wise-crack usually has something to do with the devs post about the demo community.
Like I said, so much more entertaining than the game at this point.
Now this is either hilarious or just plain sad.
I just can't see talking about AoC with my family, but there have been some whacked familys I have bumped into from the past. My family is'nt all peaches and cream, but AoC would probably be the last thing we as a family would talk about.
You folks definetly need to find a better subject to talk about or make some family time to play monoply or go see a movie.
Again, its nothing personal.. but who am I to say what your family should do, but to me, tihs sounds very odd..
You sir need to come down from your high horse. Haters are the biggest fanboys themselfes. Evryone that has been on one side has also been on the other...
And those who might defend the game aren't necessarily denying that the are technical or content problems. I like aoc altho it's not perfect and has problems. The bias is coming from hater just as much as from fanboys. Bashers often enough ride around on something minimal acting like its a desaster...
Oh btw. did it ever occure to you that those with the problems are the ones to shout out most? While those who have no problems are most likely in the game enjoying it rather then spending their evenings on a forum.
In this corner we have the fans who proclaim that AoC is the best thing since sex and moon pies and FC devs not only walk on water but could walk over a sewage pond and it would be as pure as arteian spring water afterward
In this corner we have the people who feel as if AoC is a steaming pile of maggot infested dog poop
in the middle we have the truth
Imho the fanboys need to get a grip. The game is ok and has some good features but it is not all that. I will say one thing though it is a lot more fun than Vanguard ever was. Bugginess and performance are a draw however and I am glad my box can run them and feel sorry for anyone who tries w/o a pretty hefty rig.
Following this forum is really fun. In a way. It is SUCH a wonderful Vanguard deja vu ALL over, heh. Save that I stopped believing in the ability of humans to LEARN. It was what the Vanguard launch taught me, so when I was depressed about human stupidity then, I am amused only now. Same old all over. Shit its the fan, but fanbois tell themselves the smell is acutally roses. Typical reply, as once so now: "there are no issues because I dont SEE any". Yes, there is no dying of species either, becaus heck, I never saw it happen before my eyes! Ignorance must be bliss indeed. Just look at this forum. Do you really, seriously think, if so MANY post of issues, they are ALL just stupid hatebois? I mean, come on, seriously. You really should try to snap out of this defensive egomania-barrier and try to ACCEPT there MAY be a problem. Or many. The person who tells of an illness MAY acutally be a diagnostic, trying to help, ya know, and if he says there is a cancer in your guts it doesnt help to pretend there is none, because you cant see it.
1. Finish learning english please. You show promise, but if you wish to rant in a language learn it first. You will look much less foolish. And no, before you even post it, I don't care how many languages you speak. You are posting in english, or trying to. Try harder to make sense in the language you choose.
2. The AoC launch has nothing in common with the Vanguard launch. You show your limited knowledge of both games by stating that it does. I know because I was there for them both and also played them both during closed beta. I am a "fanboy" of neither game.
I am sure you will be "amused" by my reply. I doubt highly that I will care very much, or be able to decipher your comment should you choose to leave one.
Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Give a fish a man and he will eat for a month!
So Elikal, when can we expect the next thread or post comparing AoC to Vanguard replete with the witty play on Vanguard's full title? Tomorrow perhaps? Within a few hours?
If you could PM me with the time I'd be ever so grateful. I really wouldn't want to miss it.
Following this forum is really fun. In a way. It is SUCH a wonderful Vanguard deja vu ALL over, heh. Save that I stopped believing in the ability of humans to LEARN. It was what the Vanguard launch taught me, so when I was depressed about human stupidity then, I am amused only now. Same old all over. Shit its the fan, but fanbois tell themselves the smell is acutally roses. Typical reply, as once so now: "there are no issues because I dont SEE any". Yes, there is no dying of species either, becaus heck, I never saw it happen before my eyes! Ignorance must be bliss indeed. Just look at this forum. Do you really, seriously think, if so MANY post of issues, they are ALL just stupid hatebois? I mean, come on, seriously. You really should try to snap out of this defensive egomania-barrier and try to ACCEPT there MAY be a problem. Or many. The person who tells of an illness MAY acutally be a diagnostic, trying to help, ya know, and if he says there is a cancer in your guts it doesnt help to pretend there is none, because you cant see it.
Let me start off by saying i play the game and enjoy it.But i do realize,its not the best,theres allot i dont like but for now its fun.
Elikal i will never take another one of your posts seriously after reading your thread awhile back after the pvp weekend saying PvP'rs were braindead little kids becaaue you couldnt figure out how to pvp.If i had the pacience i would dig the thread up because it was rediculous.If anyones bored go check it out it was pretty funny and really sad.
Following this forum is really fun. In a way. It is SUCH a wonderful Vanguard deja vu ALL over, heh. Save that I stopped believing in the ability of humans to LEARN. It was what the Vanguard launch taught me, so when I was depressed about human stupidity then, I am amused only now. Same old all over. Shit its the fan, but fanbois tell themselves the smell is acutally roses. Typical reply, as once so now: "there are no issues because I dont SEE any". Yes, there is no dying of species either, becaus heck, I never saw it happen before my eyes! Ignorance must be bliss indeed. Just look at this forum. Do you really, seriously think, if so MANY post of issues, they are ALL just stupid hatebois? I mean, come on, seriously. You really should try to snap out of this defensive egomania-barrier and try to ACCEPT there MAY be a problem. Or many. The person who tells of an illness MAY acutally be a diagnostic, trying to help, ya know, and if he says there is a cancer in your guts it doesnt help to pretend there is none, because you cant see it.
Elikal, the major issue with most haters is the arrogance and the misinformation.
Just check the Star Wars fan post here and you will understand wha Im saying.
See, AoC have some really annoying performance issues, CS issues and some bugs after level 35... those things can be fixed, and we can always talk about it.
Zones, lore, gameplay, well, are details of this game, some people like, some people dont.. Im finally happy to see a low fantasy MMO and Im having a very good time with my wife and friends.
If you dont like the details of this game, it doesnt mean they are issues.
You tried to sound smart with this post, and if you really like games I dont see a reason for this.
Most of people that is against AoC is trying to show that everyone who likes AoC is an idiot, same happens with WoW and the McDonalds analogy ( and I dont even like WoW ), it is hard to see posts talking about the real issues here.
Your attitude is a egomaniac one, sorry.
oh, and by the way, I had some very good moments in Vanguard too.
If the OP had actually spent time in either game he would know there is no comparison. Sadly if all one does is read this forum they would have a negative view about life itself.
Theres a huge difference between what happened with Vanguard and AoC release. Vanguard was a broken mess right from the beginning, extremely broken and unplayable for many people. As well, the situation surrounding the development of Vanguard was a complete mess, with incompetent devs and douche bags like Brad McQuaid "leading" Sigil and everyone who worked there into the toilet. In comparison, AoC's launch has gone fairly smoothly for an MMO. This game hasn't been out for 2 weeks even and people expect it should be up and running as smoothly as an MMO thats been out for a few years. I'm sure it must be similar to what happened with WoW in that Funcom probably wasn't prepared for how popular the game would be so its taken them longer to respond to problems than what we would like to see. They seem to be addressing some of the issues they had (though maybe not as fast as we would like them to) so I'm willing to give them some slack for now.
I would hope that anyone that posts here on a regular basis would know that every MMO released goes through growing pains the 1st month or so. I personally have had no in game problems so far. Everything seems to be working as it should be. However, I did have some problems accessing the official forums for about a week but after I found a way to contact Funcom I now have access. The official forums are now available to be read by anyone too. If the biggest problem I've had is accessing the forums then I'll consider things to be very satisfactory.
I'm certainly no fanboy. I had a lot of doubts about this game and was expecting it to suck donkey balls. However, after actually playing it with almost zero expectations I'm actually having a pretty good time and really dig the combat system. If people would play things as they are and not on any expectations they might have had then you might find yourself enjoying it more. I don't know how long I'll stick with it but for now I'm having lots of fun and I'll keep playing until I'm no longer having fun.
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
Unlike the rabid Vanguard fanboys, who would lead you to believe the game was flawless and perfect, and it was YOU, not the game, this board openly discusses the flaws. You've got the occasional Vanboi-style poster, but for the most part, the fans of this game will let you know it's buggy, and broken, but still fun.
Waiting for something fresh to arrive on the MMO scene...
Theres a huge difference between what happened with Vanguard and AoC release. Vanguard was a broken mess right from the beginning, extremely broken and unplayable for many people. As well, the situation surrounding the development of Vanguard was a complete mess, with incompetent devs and douche bags like Brad McQuaid "leading" Sigil and everyone who worked there into the toilet. In comparison, AoC's launch has gone fairly smoothly for an MMO. This game hasn't been out for 2 weeks even and people expect it should be up and running as smoothly as an MMO thats been out for a few years. I'm sure it must be similar to what happened with WoW in that Funcom probably wasn't prepared for how popular the game would be so its taken them longer to respond to problems than what we would like to see. They seem to be addressing some of the issues they had (though maybe not as fast as we would like them to) so I'm willing to give them some slack for now.
I would hope that anyone that posts here on a regular basis would know that every MMO released goes through growing pains the 1st month or so. I personally have had no in game problems so far. Everything seems to be working as it should be. However, I did have some problems accessing the official forums for about a week but after I found a way to contact Funcom I now have access. The official forums are now available to be read by anyone too. If the biggest problem I've had is accessing the forums then I'll consider things to be very satisfactory.
I'm certainly no fanboy. I had a lot of doubts about this game and was expecting it to suck donkey balls. However, after actually playing it with almost zero expectations I'm actually having a pretty good time and really dig the combat system. If people would play things as they are and not on any expectations they might have had then you might find yourself enjoying it more. I don't know how long I'll stick with it but for now I'm having lots of fun and I'll keep playing until I'm no longer having fun.
Correct, two completely different things. I really like VG and the gameplay in it, but the launch had some severe issues for a lot of people. This is different, what we see in Conan is actually a pretty stable launch compared to most, some old bugs, some new bugs, some performance issues - but nowhere near the issues of VG.
Both are good games by the way.
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Originally posted by Mordria
Originally posted by Elikal
Just look at this forum. Do you really, seriously think, if so MANY post of issues, they are ALL just stupid hatebois?
Yes, because the other people are most likely playing the game instead of listening to this nonsense.
I see you are still on your crusade against AoC Elikal.
Even before it launched you were writing posts like this.
Just because it won't run on your computer, or they won't make male demonologists with male pets is no reason to continute to attack a game.
They are all stupid hatebois or whatever you want to label them Eikal. How many negative threads have you started now? 6?
"Just because it won't run on your computer, or they won't make male demonologists with male pets is no reason to continute to attack a game."
And that the typical response here. Or the tech issues with even starting the game up, or being banned for possibly exploiting. And mixed in there are the genuine, I am having SOME issues in game but im still playing it.
Unlike the rabid Vanguard fanboys, who would lead you to believe the game was flawless and perfect, and it was YOU, not the game, this board openly discusses the flaws. You've got the occasional Vanboi-style poster, but for the most part, the fans of this game will let you know it's buggy, and broken, but still fun.
Of course there are people that say that. They aren't considered fanbois, though. We are talking about the idiots who say "no game is perfect", "upgrade your computer", "its your fault", "WoW's launch was terrible", "WoW blah, blah, blah", "wait until your level X". Those are nothing, but excuses.
Unlike the rabid Vanguard fanboys, who would lead you to believe the game was flawless and perfect, and it was YOU, not the game, this board openly discusses the flaws. You've got the occasional Vanboi-style poster, but for the most part, the fans of this game will let you know it's buggy, and broken, but still fun.
Of course there are people that say that. They aren't considered fanbois, though. We are talking about the idiots who say "no game is perfect", "upgrade your computer", "its your fault", "WoW's launch was terrible", "WoW blah, blah, blah", "wait until your level X". Those are nothing, but excuses.
brostyn this was probably your most silly posting so far. You call people idiots because they say no game is perfect?
I'm very keen to see you post and I give you a chance to name a game any game doesn't even have to be a computer game which doesn't have a flaw to it. You can list as many as you will and I can still give you the reason why it's not perfect.
This type of postings makes it worth reading forum.. it's hillarious reading a person who have nothing better to say that people that have a different opinion than him is an idiot.
A spoiler for you brostyn is that people actually have different way to see things than you. I mean seriously do you really believe that the way you see things is the right way?
To the OP... well no comment... been more than enough people commenting this guys urge to start hate topics about AoC.
I think a few of the posters have misconceived the OP's statement.
He is not comparing the launch of Vanguard to AoC, he is comparing the forums. I would like to think most people would agree AoC launch is 100 times better compared to VG's.
In this corner we have the fans who proclaim that AoC is the best thing since sex and moon pies and FC devs not only walk on water but could walk over a sewage pond and it would be as pure as arteian spring water afterward In this corner we have the people who feel as if AoC is a steaming pile of maggot infested dog poop in the middle we have the truth Imho the fanboys need to get a grip. The game is ok and has some good features but it is not all that. I will say one thing though it is a lot more fun than Vanguard ever was. Bugginess and performance are a draw however and I am glad my box can run them and feel sorry for anyone who tries w/o a pretty hefty rig.
When you say best thing since sex and moonpies, do you mean both simultaneously?
This is nothing compared to the old Dark and Light forums about the time Soldiers of Ganarth launched. I actually had people PM'ing me they were going to hack my computer to find out where I lived and hunt me down.
DnL apologists were probably the most rabid i've seen yet.
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No need to, as your post lacked any credibility.
You need to understand human nature before you spout off things you have no idea about.
You were going on about things that are irrelevant and used a poor example.
Explanations:
People don't use the internet to find out and interact with restaurants predominantly yet. With MMORPGs, forums are predominantly the source of info and word-of-mouth. You have to go through the forum filter in order to even hear about the game in the first place. Like I said,people who POST are in the minority, but they reflect (you can argue chicken and the egg here) a greater majority.
I'll get to the rest of your post in a bit. Edit: Later tonight it appears. Slight issue has come about on my end.
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Stop with the sweeping generalisations to justify your ramblings
I've played both Vanguard and AoC. I'm not a fanboi of either game. I can honestly say that AoC is WAY better than Vanguard was at its launch. Is it great? No, but most mmo's arent when they first launch. Trust me I've played enough of them to know. AoC is a good game, in time it will get better. All of you who are proclaiming that the sky is falling need to go take one of your mommies xanax and chill. Its really not that bad...
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Tried: RF Online, Ryzom, Daoc, CoH/CoV, Lotro, Vanguard, Guild Wars
Beta Tested: SWG, RF Online, Lotro, Potbs, Tabula Rasa, G&H, Perfect World
Word of mouth factors in, yes.
Predominantly through Forums? Mmm... No.
Forum posters are not just the minority, we're the minority of a minority -- most people either very rarely, or almost never touch forum discussions. This is why everyone cries when something is nerfed that it's because of the whiny forum posters who try to convince everyone that their class is overpowered.
To call a vocal minority an accurate depiction of the community is unreliable at best.
People don't use the internet to talk about restaurants, but they don't have to -- they talk to friends who also live close by who have gone there. If I tell my friend I'm going to Chili's, he's more likely to make a comment if he hates the place.
Now this is either hilarious or just plain sad.
I just can't see talking about AoC with my family, but there have been some whacked familys I have bumped into from the past. My family is'nt all peaches and cream, but AoC would probably be the last thing we as a family would talk about.
You folks definetly need to find a better subject to talk about or make some family time to play monoply or go see a movie.
Again, its nothing personal.. but who am I to say what your family should do, but to me, tihs sounds very odd..
Yes, because the other people are most likely playing the game instead of listening to this nonsense.
I see you are still on your crusade against AoC Elikal.
Even before it launched you were writing posts like this.
Just because it won't run on your computer, or they won't make male demonologists with male pets is no reason to continute to attack a game.
You sir need to come down from your high horse. Haters are the biggest fanboys themselfes. Evryone that has been on one side has also been on the other...
And those who might defend the game aren't necessarily denying that the are technical or content problems. I like aoc altho it's not perfect and has problems. The bias is coming from hater just as much as from fanboys. Bashers often enough ride around on something minimal acting like its a desaster...
Oh btw. did it ever occure to you that those with the problems are the ones to shout out most? While those who have no problems are most likely in the game enjoying it rather then spending their evenings on a forum.
In this corner we have the fans who proclaim that AoC is the best thing since sex and moon pies and FC devs not only walk on water but could walk over a sewage pond and it would be as pure as arteian spring water afterward
In this corner we have the people who feel as if AoC is a steaming pile of maggot infested dog poop
in the middle we have the truth
Imho the fanboys need to get a grip. The game is ok and has some good features but it is not all that. I will say one thing though it is a lot more fun than Vanguard ever was. Bugginess and performance are a draw however and I am glad my box can run them and feel sorry for anyone who tries w/o a pretty hefty rig.
I miss DAoC
2. The AoC launch has nothing in common with the Vanguard launch. You show your limited knowledge of both games by stating that it does. I know because I was there for them both and also played them both during closed beta. I am a "fanboy" of neither game.
I am sure you will be "amused" by my reply. I doubt highly that I will care very much, or be able to decipher your comment should you choose to leave one.
Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Give a fish a man and he will eat for a month!
So Elikal, when can we expect the next thread or post comparing AoC to Vanguard replete with the witty play on Vanguard's full title? Tomorrow perhaps? Within a few hours?
If you could PM me with the time I'd be ever so grateful. I really wouldn't want to miss it.
Elikal i will never take another one of your posts seriously after reading your thread awhile back after the pvp weekend saying PvP'rs were braindead little kids becaaue you couldnt figure out how to pvp.If i had the pacience i would dig the thread up because it was rediculous.If anyones bored go check it out it was pretty funny and really sad.
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Elikal, the major issue with most haters is the arrogance and the misinformation.
Just check the Star Wars fan post here and you will understand wha Im saying.
See, AoC have some really annoying performance issues, CS issues and some bugs after level 35... those things can be fixed, and we can always talk about it.
Zones, lore, gameplay, well, are details of this game, some people like, some people dont.. Im finally happy to see a low fantasy MMO and Im having a very good time with my wife and friends.
If you dont like the details of this game, it doesnt mean they are issues.
You tried to sound smart with this post, and if you really like games I dont see a reason for this.
Most of people that is against AoC is trying to show that everyone who likes AoC is an idiot, same happens with WoW and the McDonalds analogy ( and I dont even like WoW ), it is hard to see posts talking about the real issues here.
Your attitude is a egomaniac one, sorry.
oh, and by the way, I had some very good moments in Vanguard too.
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If the OP had actually spent time in either game he would know there is no comparison. Sadly if all one does is read this forum they would have a negative view about life itself.
Theres a huge difference between what happened with Vanguard and AoC release. Vanguard was a broken mess right from the beginning, extremely broken and unplayable for many people. As well, the situation surrounding the development of Vanguard was a complete mess, with incompetent devs and douche bags like Brad McQuaid "leading" Sigil and everyone who worked there into the toilet. In comparison, AoC's launch has gone fairly smoothly for an MMO. This game hasn't been out for 2 weeks even and people expect it should be up and running as smoothly as an MMO thats been out for a few years. I'm sure it must be similar to what happened with WoW in that Funcom probably wasn't prepared for how popular the game would be so its taken them longer to respond to problems than what we would like to see. They seem to be addressing some of the issues they had (though maybe not as fast as we would like them to) so I'm willing to give them some slack for now.
I would hope that anyone that posts here on a regular basis would know that every MMO released goes through growing pains the 1st month or so. I personally have had no in game problems so far. Everything seems to be working as it should be. However, I did have some problems accessing the official forums for about a week but after I found a way to contact Funcom I now have access. The official forums are now available to be read by anyone too. If the biggest problem I've had is accessing the forums then I'll consider things to be very satisfactory.
I'm certainly no fanboy. I had a lot of doubts about this game and was expecting it to suck donkey balls. However, after actually playing it with almost zero expectations I'm actually having a pretty good time and really dig the combat system. If people would play things as they are and not on any expectations they might have had then you might find yourself enjoying it more. I don't know how long I'll stick with it but for now I'm having lots of fun and I'll keep playing until I'm no longer having fun.
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
I strongly disagree.
Unlike the rabid Vanguard fanboys, who would lead you to believe the game was flawless and perfect, and it was YOU, not the game, this board openly discusses the flaws. You've got the occasional Vanboi-style poster, but for the most part, the fans of this game will let you know it's buggy, and broken, but still fun.
Waiting for something fresh to arrive on the MMO scene...
Both are good games by the way.
Yes, because the other people are most likely playing the game instead of listening to this nonsense.
I see you are still on your crusade against AoC Elikal.
Even before it launched you were writing posts like this.
Just because it won't run on your computer, or they won't make male demonologists with male pets is no reason to continute to attack a game.
They are all stupid hatebois or whatever you want to label them Eikal. How many negative threads have you started now? 6?
"Just because it won't run on your computer, or they won't make male demonologists with male pets is no reason to continute to attack a game."
And that the typical response here. Or the tech issues with even starting the game up, or being banned for possibly exploiting. And mixed in there are the genuine, I am having SOME issues in game but im still playing it.
I love fanbois. They give me hope that when I decide to scam the world I will have no shortage of idiots.
The OP is right.
The sheer volume of blind fanbois in here is disgusting.
It's like people that are still pro-Bush.
brostyn this was probably your most silly posting so far. You call people idiots because they say no game is perfect?
I'm very keen to see you post and I give you a chance to name a game any game doesn't even have to be a computer game which doesn't have a flaw to it. You can list as many as you will and I can still give you the reason why it's not perfect.
This type of postings makes it worth reading forum.. it's hillarious reading a person who have nothing better to say that people that have a different opinion than him is an idiot.
A spoiler for you brostyn is that people actually have different way to see things than you. I mean seriously do you really believe that the way you see things is the right way?
To the OP... well no comment... been more than enough people commenting this guys urge to start hate topics about AoC.
I think a few of the posters have misconceived the OP's statement.
He is not comparing the launch of Vanguard to AoC, he is comparing the forums. I would like to think most people would agree AoC launch is 100 times better compared to VG's.
When you say best thing since sex and moonpies, do you mean both simultaneously?
DnL apologists were probably the most rabid i've seen yet.