Unlike the rabid Vanguard fanboys, who would lead you to believe the game was flawless and perfect, and it was YOU, not the game, this board openly discusses the flaws. You've got the occasional Vanboi-style poster, but for the most part, the fans of this game will let you know it's buggy, and broken, but still fun.
Vanguard was a wall of hype and fanboys.
AoC is more like a fence of hype and fanboys. Half of it is BS and half the fanboys actually think they are helping, even though the people who read their posts are generally turned off by them. Vanguard was all BS and Vanbois were completely off their rockers like political hachet men.
The hype and fanboism for both games is/was definitely in the upper tier. Along with WoW, Darkfall, DnL etc. But their character is somewhat different. Brad McQuaid was basically a crook, Funcom meh I don't really know yet, but they aren't anywhere near as crooked as BMQ even though there have been shady and mishandled things.
Unlike the rabid Vanguard fanboys, who would lead you to believe the game was flawless and perfect, and it was YOU, not the game, this board openly discusses the flaws. You've got the occasional Vanboi-style poster, but for the most part, the fans of this game will let you know it's buggy, and broken, but still fun.
Vanguard was a wall of hype and fanboys.
AoC is more like a fence of hype and fanboys. Half of it is BS and half the fanboys actually think they are helping, even though the people who read their posts are generally turned off by them. Vanguard was all BS and Vanbois were completely off their rockers like political hachet men.
The hype and fanboism for both games is/was definitely in the upper tier. Along with WoW, Darkfall, DnL etc. But their character is somewhat different. Brad McQuaid was basically a crook, Funcom meh I don't really know yet, but they aren't anywhere near as crooked as BMQ even though there have been shady and mishandled things.
think all this publicity is going to help AoC more than hurting it and I'm one of those who got more interested in AoC because so many actually posted shit about it.
Cause you can't like playing a game without being a fanboy. For surely we all know that.
Look when someone pretends that other MMOs launch without problems then some of us are going to call them out on it and correct them. I listed some things about WoW, LOTRO, and EQ2 in another thread. I still like those games and would still play them but monthly fees are what they are and perhaps one day I will return to them.
On the technical side I list what frames I got in the game, at the levels I progress further in the game, so that way others with the same range system can maybe get an idea what they're going to have too. Although every system is different. I say it's playable but they can determine whether buttery smooth 60+ fps is their goal or the frames I got is their goal.
Weird frames or just how the game plays can make me feel awful so I can understand that point of view. I couldn't make it through a single player game King's Field for the PS since it would make me motion sick. My family member felt the same with Halo: Combat Evolved for the Xbox.
Till then some of us can actually play a game while still liking other games. The pros outweigh the cons If that makes us a fanboy then I'm sorry for some of the people in this forum to be sure.
Unlike the rabid Vanguard fanboys, who would lead you to believe the game was flawless and perfect, and it was YOU, not the game, this board openly discusses the flaws. You've got the occasional Vanboi-style poster, but for the most part, the fans of this game will let you know it's buggy, and broken, but still fun.
Of course there are people that say that. They aren't considered fanbois, though. We are talking about the idiots who say "no game is perfect", "upgrade your computer", "its your fault", "WoW's launch was terrible", "WoW blah, blah, blah", "wait until your level X". Those are nothing, but excuses.
brostyn this was probably your most silly posting so far. You call people idiots because they say no game is perfect?
I'm very keen to see you post and I give you a chance to name a game any game doesn't even have to be a computer game which doesn't have a flaw to it. You can list as many as you will and I can still give you the reason why it's not perfect.
This type of postings makes it worth reading forum.. it's hillarious reading a person who have nothing better to say that people that have a different opinion than him is an idiot.
A spoiler for you brostyn is that people actually have different way to see things than you. I mean seriously do you really believe that the way you see things is the right way?
To the OP... well no comment... been more than enough people commenting this guys urge to start hate topics about AoC.
Justifying the game you play by saying "No game is perfect" is an idiotic way to defend said game. Yes, I will stand by that. I, too, find it amusing you think saying "No game is perfect" over and over is a great way to defend a game.
Don't jump to conclusion on my feelings, as I haven't said one word on these forums about AoC's gameplay. Yet, another reason why fanbois are idiots.
I have passed no judgement on the game, as I haven't played it. I'm still waiting to see what the general consensus is. It doesn't mean I don't enjoy watching idiotic fanbois jump down everyone's throat who they don't think agrees with them.
Unlike the rabid Vanguard fanboys, who would lead you to believe the game was flawless and perfect, and it was YOU, not the game, this board openly discusses the flaws. You've got the occasional Vanboi-style poster, but for the most part, the fans of this game will let you know it's buggy, and broken, but still fun.
Of course there are people that say that. They aren't considered fanbois, though. We are talking about the idiots who say "no game is perfect", "upgrade your computer", "its your fault", "WoW's launch was terrible", "WoW blah, blah, blah", "wait until your level X". Those are nothing, but excuses.
brostyn this was probably your most silly posting so far. You call people idiots because they say no game is perfect?
I'm very keen to see you post and I give you a chance to name a game any game doesn't even have to be a computer game which doesn't have a flaw to it. You can list as many as you will and I can still give you the reason why it's not perfect.
This type of postings makes it worth reading forum.. it's hillarious reading a person who have nothing better to say that people that have a different opinion than him is an idiot.
A spoiler for you brostyn is that people actually have different way to see things than you. I mean seriously do you really believe that the way you see things is the right way?
To the OP... well no comment... been more than enough people commenting this guys urge to start hate topics about AoC.
Justifying the game you play by saying "No game is perfect" is an idiotic way to defend said game. Yes, I will stand by that. I, too, find it amusing you think saying "No game is perfect" over and over is a great way to defend a game.
Don't jump to conclusion on my feelings, as I haven't said one word on these forums about AoC's gameplay. Yet, another reason why fanbois are idiots.
I have passed no judgement on the game, as I haven't played it. I'm still waiting to see what the general consensus is. It doesn't mean I don't enjoy watching idiotic fanbois jump down everyone's throat who they don't think agrees with them.
I mean seriously you avoid answering my question I want you to list the perfect game.. I dare you.. and calling people idiots because they have a different opinion than you makes yourself look very bright..
I'm have not yet claimed that AoC is a great game for all people I have stated I like it and people who don't should move on and play something else. I'm not trying to prove to anyone that AoC is for them but I find it very amusing that people like you actually constantly use the only defense you can fanbois blah blah blah.. you cannot even back up your own words.
Not the Matrix Reloaded eh? Cause you can't like playing a game without being a fanboy. For surely we all know that.
Around here? Absolutely, you're a fanboy. Essentially, you're a fanboy here if you show optimism for a game that someone doesn't like.
I laugh at anyone who thinks this forum is full of them, when they're actually horribly outnumbered by their hater counterparts. They will be on any forum, for any game. And this goes double for a game in its introductory month when problems tend to be at their worst.
The arguments on both ends tend to be stretches of the truth or plain ignorance -- or introducing speculation or opinion as fact and using that as the basis for a flame (e.g. fanboys in AoC being more blind than in other games).
The horrible truth is, people love to hear themselves talk (it *is* the internet, after all) -- and the real fools here may in-fact be us, who think we can avoid having a discussion turn into a "win" or "lose" situation with flamers.
So, with rare exceptions, I tend to just say my piece and not even read responses. Like many of them, I know I'm right and that's all that matters. ;P
" I know I'm right and that's all that matters. ;P"
lol you think highly about yourself obviously and if you think beef is good and chicken sucks ofcourse you're right... well at least from your point of view. So since you know you're right about everything we don't expect to see you posting more?.. since you already know you're right the point of posting is missing unless you actually feel an urge to try to prove others that their chicken taste like shit.
Unlike the rabid Vanguard fanboys, who would lead you to believe the game was flawless and perfect, and it was YOU, not the game, this board openly discusses the flaws. You've got the occasional Vanboi-style poster, but for the most part, the fans of this game will let you know it's buggy, and broken, but still fun.
Vanguard was a wall of hype and fanboys.
AoC is more like a fence of hype and fanboys. Half of it is BS and half the fanboys actually think they are helping, even though the people who read their posts are generally turned off by them. Vanguard was all BS and Vanbois were completely off their rockers like political hachet men.
The hype and fanboism for both games is/was definitely in the upper tier. Along with WoW, Darkfall, DnL etc. But their character is somewhat different. Brad McQuaid was basically a crook, Funcom meh I don't really know yet, but they aren't anywhere near as crooked as BMQ even though there have been shady and mishandled things.
You have a selective memory or what . when vanguard released they had an open beta and dropped thier NDA and told people we ran out of money and this is the game where releasing. Thats a far cry from been a bunch of crooks
If you bought vanguard when it released it was nobodys fault but your own . It was a well know fact that the game wasnt ready for release Myself ive been playing it every setting maxed at 1920x1200 sence day 1 with no regrets .Its a fantastic game
Now funcom on the other hand totaly lied and munipulated there NDA to keep the fact that there game wasnt ready for release.I think its a pretty well know fact now that its a pretty good game that could have used a bit more time in the oven Myself i might have tryed it out if funcom would have been honest and not tryed to pull the wool over my eyes with there little pvp weekend drop the NDA on a couple instanced BG's and level 1 to 5 trick .The whole time hiding the fact that there game isnt finished by saying we dont want to ruin the surprize for people .
Simple truth is the facts would have hurt there release sales big time , does anyone else feel they where more than a little shady with the facts surrounding the release or do you think am off base thinking this
Something else people might want to consider before bashing Funcom. They've gone from having a game with maybe tens of thousands (Anarchy Online) to one with hundreds of thousands. Thats a big jump for anyone. If people are still having major issues with AoC a few months from now then by all means, pile on Funcom. Until then I'm willing to cut them some slack.
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Unlike the rabid Vanguard fanboys, who would lead you to believe the game was flawless and perfect, and it was YOU, not the game, this board openly discusses the flaws. You've got the occasional Vanboi-style poster, but for the most part, the fans of this game will let you know it's buggy, and broken, but still fun.
Vanguard was a wall of hype and fanboys.
AoC is more like a fence of hype and fanboys. Half of it is BS and half the fanboys actually think they are helping, even though the people who read their posts are generally turned off by them. Vanguard was all BS and Vanbois were completely off their rockers like political hachet men.
The hype and fanboism for both games is/was definitely in the upper tier. Along with WoW, Darkfall, DnL etc. But their character is somewhat different. Brad McQuaid was basically a crook, Funcom meh I don't really know yet, but they aren't anywhere near as crooked as BMQ even though there have been shady and mishandled things.
You have a selective memory or what . when vanguard released they had an open beta and dropped thier NDA and told people we ran out of money and this is the game where releasing. Thats a far cry from been a bunch of crooks
If you bought vanguard when it released it was nobodys fault but your own . It was a well know fact that the game wasnt ready for release Myself ive been playing it every setting maxed at 1920x1200 sence day 1 with no regrets .Its a fantastic game
Now funcom on the other hand totaly lied and munipulated there NDA to keep the fact that there game wasnt ready for release.I think its a pretty well know fact now that its a pretty good game that could have used a bit more time in the oven Myself i might have tryed it out if funcom would have been honest and not tryed to pull the wool over my eyes with there little pvp weekend drop the NDA on a couple instanced BG's and level 1 to 5 trick .The whole time hiding the fact that there game isnt finished by saying we dont want to ruin the surprize for people .
Simple truth is the facts would have hurt there release sales big time , does anyone else feel they where more than a little shady with the facts surrounding the release or do you think am off base thinking this
No I mean BMQ specifically as far as hype is concerned not all of Sigil.
Its interesting that you think the run up to release of AoC was more dishonest. I am not gonna argue with you as I think an OK argument could be made either way. But it is interesting.
However in reference to the fanboys in specific the Vanguard Fanboys I believe were worse and of a different character than AoC's current crop. There are certain fanboys in AoC that try to do the old lipstick on a pig trick and others that just flame away. Not saying AoC sucks with wtih pig comment but that is their general strategy for every non-vaourable point made. But the vanguard vanbois waged a serious a concerted campaign that was just plain crazy and bullying. Thre are similar shades of that in AoC, but it can't seem to muster up the necessary energy or snowball effect or whatever.
I have a theory that fanoyism relies heavily on groupthink. And the AoC fanboy groupthink just isn't as coherent or crazy as the old vanbois.
The launch of 'Age of Conan' is in no way comparable to the Launch of 'Vanguard'.
I pre-ordered the Collector's Editions of both games & whilst 'Vanguard' remained virtually unplayable for me right up until the end of my trial subscription, almost 18 months later the same machine plays 'Age of Conan' with no real problems.
I never made it out of the newbie zone in 'Vanguard' so I can't comment on the rest of the game, but to me it just seemed too much like the original Everquest with a higher spec graphics engine. There was no attempt to engage new players in any sort of story, just a lot of NPCs muttering about your character having a body odour problem using exactly the same voiceover.
By contrast, the newbie area in 'Age of Conan' is a deliberate attempt to engage players in the world setting & has a compelling story with many different excellent voice actors. I am slightly concerned that it might get repetetive after a while if I create many alts, but at least the first few times it is very impressive.
I have read many very useful critical posts made by actual players. In particular, following all the posts on the state of PvP I avoided those servers & went RP-PvE. I had been looking forward to trying the PvP, but at the moment it just doesn't seem worth the effort & hopefully Funcom will pay attention to the feedback in those threads & act accordingly over the coming months.
As far as the negative unsubstantiated posts like that made by the OP, they are getting very tedious. The game isn't perfect by any means but at least if people are going to criticise it they should say why, rather than just claim that the game must be bad because of the volume of comments made by other trolls, many of whom don't even seem to have played it.
If you can't "Have your cake & eat it too", then how can "The proof of the pudding be in the eating"?
Following this forum is really fun. In a way. It is SUCH a wonderful Vanguard deja vu ALL over, heh. Save that I stopped believing in the ability of humans to LEARN. It was what the Vanguard launch taught me, so when I was depressed about human stupidity then, I am amused only now. Same old all over. Shit its the fan, but fanbois tell themselves the smell is acutally roses. Typical reply, as once so now: "there are no issues because I dont SEE any". Yes, there is no dying of species either, becaus heck, I never saw it happen before my eyes! Ignorance must be bliss indeed. Just look at this forum. Do you really, seriously think, if so MANY post of issues, they are ALL just stupid hatebois? I mean, come on, seriously. You really should try to snap out of this defensive egomania-barrier and try to ACCEPT there MAY be a problem. Or many. The person who tells of an illness MAY acutally be a diagnostic, trying to help, ya know, and if he says there is a cancer in your guts it doesnt help to pretend there is none, because you cant see it.
Its nowhere near Vanguard. And as always the community does not represed the in-game community.
Following this forum is really fun. In a way. It is SUCH a wonderful Vanguard deja vu ALL over, heh. Save that I stopped believing in the ability of humans to LEARN. It was what the Vanguard launch taught me, so when I was depressed about human stupidity then, I am amused only now. Same old all over. Shit its the fan, but fanbois tell themselves the smell is acutally roses. Typical reply, as once so now: "there are no issues because I dont SEE any". Yes, there is no dying of species either, becaus heck, I never saw it happen before my eyes! Ignorance must be bliss indeed. Just look at this forum. Do you really, seriously think, if so MANY post of issues, they are ALL just stupid hatebois? I mean, come on, seriously. You really should try to snap out of this defensive egomania-barrier and try to ACCEPT there MAY be a problem. Or many. The person who tells of an illness MAY acutally be a diagnostic, trying to help, ya know, and if he says there is a cancer in your guts it doesnt help to pretend there is none, because you cant see it.
And on the other hand, we have people who attack the game for every reason they can find, be it real or not. They claim to be the one, true Truth about MMO's, they claim to be the only ones who know how a game should work/function/play. They slander the game, not because it has issues but because -THEY- do not enjoy it and thus, everyone who is must be made to suffer.
I personally draw as much enjoyment from reading the Haters as I do from reading the Fanbois as you call them. They are just as fanatical and zealous in their attacks on a game they do not care about as the Fanbois are in defending it.
So an all around win situation isn't it? I can enjoy playing a game (which has issues but is still enjoyable to me, go figure), and I can read forums and laugh my ass off about people acting as though MMO's are some sort of religion, some sort of God in whose name they have to fight and bash.
"BY THE EMPERORS LIGHT, ATTACK!"
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Ive played up to lvl40 and my review of game up to that lvl is 5/10 this a honest opinion of game, i say is very avarage, many bugs and flawed in many ways, this has nothing to do with hate or bash game.
It seems many AoC fans just dont see the many faults in game, thats there right to do, but still not honest opinion.
Forums are to express some feeling yes this has nothing to do with religion to release hate and bash or to express joy, its just to explain how you think about game or not, we all free to say we hate it or love it, its a part of playing games, going to forums like this.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009..... In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Unlike the rabid Vanguard fanboys, who would lead you to believe the game was flawless and perfect, and it was YOU, not the game, this board openly discusses the flaws. You've got the occasional Vanboi-style poster, but for the most part, the fans of this game will let you know it's buggy, and broken, but still fun.
Vanguard was a wall of hype and fanboys.
AoC is more like a fence of hype and fanboys. Half of it is BS and half the fanboys actually think they are helping, even though the people who read their posts are generally turned off by them. Vanguard was all BS and Vanbois were completely off their rockers like political hachet men.
The hype and fanboism for both games is/was definitely in the upper tier. Along with WoW, Darkfall, DnL etc. But their character is somewhat different. Brad McQuaid was basically a crook, Funcom meh I don't really know yet, but they aren't anywhere near as crooked as BMQ even though there have been shady and mishandled things.
You have a selective memory or what . when vanguard released they had an open beta and dropped thier NDA and told people we ran out of money and this is the game where releasing. Thats a far cry from been a bunch of crooks
If you bought vanguard when it released it was nobodys fault but your own . It was a well know fact that the game wasnt ready for release Myself ive been playing it every setting maxed at 1920x1200 sence day 1 with no regrets .Its a fantastic game
Now funcom on the other hand totaly lied and munipulated there NDA to keep the fact that there game wasnt ready for release.I think its a pretty well know fact now that its a pretty good game that could have used a bit more time in the oven Myself i might have tryed it out if funcom would have been honest and not tryed to pull the wool over my eyes with there little pvp weekend drop the NDA on a couple instanced BG's and level 1 to 5 trick .The whole time hiding the fact that there game isnt finished by saying we dont want to ruin the surprize for people .
Simple truth is the facts would have hurt there release sales big time , does anyone else feel they where more than a little shady with the facts surrounding the release or do you think am off base thinking this
No I mean BMQ specifically as far as hype is concerned not all of Sigil.
Its interesting that you think the run up to release of AoC was more dishonest. I am not gonna argue with you as I think an OK argument could be made either way. But it is interesting.
However in reference to the fanboys in specific the Vanguard Fanboys I believe were worse and of a different character than AoC's current crop. There are certain fanboys in AoC that try to do the old lipstick on a pig trick and others that just flame away. Not saying AoC sucks with wtih pig comment but that is their general strategy for every non-vaourable point made. But the vanguard vanbois waged a serious a concerted campaign that was just plain crazy and bullying. Thre are similar shades of that in AoC, but it can't seem to muster up the necessary energy or snowball effect or whatever.
I have a theory that fanoyism relies heavily on groupthink. And the AoC fanboy groupthink just isn't as coherent or crazy as the old vanbois.
I find it strange that you single out BMQ as been a crook for doing something that everyone in the gaming industry is guilty of. Myself i admire the man for breaking from the mold and trying to create a game he was passionate about . I can pitcure Funcoms gaute whatever his name is up on that stage right now as clear as a bell saying AOC will have absolutly massive siege pvp , our servers can sopport 1000's of characters
Ok not exacly a crook but he know at the time that it was 48 on 48,so why not just tell me that .48 on 48 could be quite fun and dynamic if its done right , why try and hide it. I remember AV before cross server bg's we really had some fun battles What made it fun was that you know everyone . you fought them all in other bg's or at crossroads and south shore and mill battles, that was what made it fun. I think aoc will have enough rivaly and dynamics that those 48 on 48 are gunna be quite fun
Anyways ya am a vanbois or whatever and i came to this site because i saw a artical about vanguard , looks neat wonder where i can get some info for this game . Few pages later ad for MMORPG.com oh lets go there , never serfed gaming forums before and the amount of hate and stuff that was been spewed was overwhelming pretty hard not to get caught up in it all and stay civil sometimes
Vanguards coming into its own friend and when you get bored of those other games come give it a try . You can leave a post thanking us vanbois for sticking it out and helping them fix a great game on the vanguatd forums, see you in Telon
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AoC is more like a fence of hype and fanboys. Half of it is BS and half the fanboys actually think they are helping, even though the people who read their posts are generally turned off by them. Vanguard was all BS and Vanbois were completely off their rockers like political hachet men.
The hype and fanboism for both games is/was definitely in the upper tier. Along with WoW, Darkfall, DnL etc. But their character is somewhat different. Brad McQuaid was basically a crook, Funcom meh I don't really know yet, but they aren't anywhere near as crooked as BMQ even though there have been shady and mishandled things.
AoC is more like a fence of hype and fanboys. Half of it is BS and half the fanboys actually think they are helping, even though the people who read their posts are generally turned off by them. Vanguard was all BS and Vanbois were completely off their rockers like political hachet men.
The hype and fanboism for both games is/was definitely in the upper tier. Along with WoW, Darkfall, DnL etc. But their character is somewhat different. Brad McQuaid was basically a crook, Funcom meh I don't really know yet, but they aren't anywhere near as crooked as BMQ even though there have been shady and mishandled things.
think all this publicity is going to help AoC more than hurting it and I'm one of those who got more interested in AoC because so many actually posted shit about it.
Not the Matrix Reloaded eh?
Cause you can't like playing a game without being a fanboy. For surely we all know that.
Look when someone pretends that other MMOs launch without problems then some of us are going to call them out on it and correct them. I listed some things about WoW, LOTRO, and EQ2 in another thread. I still like those games and would still play them but monthly fees are what they are and perhaps one day I will return to them.
On the technical side I list what frames I got in the game, at the levels I progress further in the game, so that way others with the same range system can maybe get an idea what they're going to have too. Although every system is different. I say it's playable but they can determine whether buttery smooth 60+ fps is their goal or the frames I got is their goal.
Weird frames or just how the game plays can make me feel awful so I can understand that point of view. I couldn't make it through a single player game King's Field for the PS since it would make me motion sick. My family member felt the same with Halo: Combat Evolved for the Xbox.
Till then some of us can actually play a game while still liking other games. The pros outweigh the cons If that makes us a fanboy then I'm sorry for some of the people in this forum to be sure.
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Of course there are people that say that. They aren't considered fanbois, though. We are talking about the idiots who say "no game is perfect", "upgrade your computer", "its your fault", "WoW's launch was terrible", "WoW blah, blah, blah", "wait until your level X". Those are nothing, but excuses.brostyn this was probably your most silly posting so far. You call people idiots because they say no game is perfect?
I'm very keen to see you post and I give you a chance to name a game any game doesn't even have to be a computer game which doesn't have a flaw to it. You can list as many as you will and I can still give you the reason why it's not perfect.
This type of postings makes it worth reading forum.. it's hillarious reading a person who have nothing better to say that people that have a different opinion than him is an idiot.
A spoiler for you brostyn is that people actually have different way to see things than you. I mean seriously do you really believe that the way you see things is the right way?
To the OP... well no comment... been more than enough people commenting this guys urge to start hate topics about AoC.
Justifying the game you play by saying "No game is perfect" is an idiotic way to defend said game. Yes, I will stand by that. I, too, find it amusing you think saying "No game is perfect" over and over is a great way to defend a game.
Don't jump to conclusion on my feelings, as I haven't said one word on these forums about AoC's gameplay. Yet, another reason why fanbois are idiots.
I have passed no judgement on the game, as I haven't played it. I'm still waiting to see what the general consensus is. It doesn't mean I don't enjoy watching idiotic fanbois jump down everyone's throat who they don't think agrees with them.
brostyn this was probably your most silly posting so far. You call people idiots because they say no game is perfect?
I'm very keen to see you post and I give you a chance to name a game any game doesn't even have to be a computer game which doesn't have a flaw to it. You can list as many as you will and I can still give you the reason why it's not perfect.
This type of postings makes it worth reading forum.. it's hillarious reading a person who have nothing better to say that people that have a different opinion than him is an idiot.
A spoiler for you brostyn is that people actually have different way to see things than you. I mean seriously do you really believe that the way you see things is the right way?
To the OP... well no comment... been more than enough people commenting this guys urge to start hate topics about AoC.
Justifying the game you play by saying "No game is perfect" is an idiotic way to defend said game. Yes, I will stand by that. I, too, find it amusing you think saying "No game is perfect" over and over is a great way to defend a game.
Don't jump to conclusion on my feelings, as I haven't said one word on these forums about AoC's gameplay. Yet, another reason why fanbois are idiots.
I have passed no judgement on the game, as I haven't played it. I'm still waiting to see what the general consensus is. It doesn't mean I don't enjoy watching idiotic fanbois jump down everyone's throat who they don't think agrees with them.
I mean seriously you avoid answering my question I want you to list the perfect game.. I dare you.. and calling people idiots because they have a different opinion than you makes yourself look very bright..
I'm have not yet claimed that AoC is a great game for all people I have stated I like it and people who don't should move on and play something else. I'm not trying to prove to anyone that AoC is for them but I find it very amusing that people like you actually constantly use the only defense you can fanbois blah blah blah.. you cannot even back up your own words.
Around here? Absolutely, you're a fanboy. Essentially, you're a fanboy here if you show optimism for a game that someone doesn't like.
I laugh at anyone who thinks this forum is full of them, when they're actually horribly outnumbered by their hater counterparts. They will be on any forum, for any game. And this goes double for a game in its introductory month when problems tend to be at their worst.
The arguments on both ends tend to be stretches of the truth or plain ignorance -- or introducing speculation or opinion as fact and using that as the basis for a flame (e.g. fanboys in AoC being more blind than in other games).
The horrible truth is, people love to hear themselves talk (it *is* the internet, after all) -- and the real fools here may in-fact be us, who think we can avoid having a discussion turn into a "win" or "lose" situation with flamers.
So, with rare exceptions, I tend to just say my piece and not even read responses. Like many of them, I know I'm right and that's all that matters. ;P
lol you think highly about yourself obviously and if you think beef is good and chicken sucks ofcourse you're right... well at least from your point of view. So since you know you're right about everything we don't expect to see you posting more?.. since you already know you're right the point of posting is missing unless you actually feel an urge to try to prove others that their chicken taste like shit.
AoC is more like a fence of hype and fanboys. Half of it is BS and half the fanboys actually think they are helping, even though the people who read their posts are generally turned off by them. Vanguard was all BS and Vanbois were completely off their rockers like political hachet men.
The hype and fanboism for both games is/was definitely in the upper tier. Along with WoW, Darkfall, DnL etc. But their character is somewhat different. Brad McQuaid was basically a crook, Funcom meh I don't really know yet, but they aren't anywhere near as crooked as BMQ even though there have been shady and mishandled things.
You have a selective memory or what . when vanguard released they had an open beta and dropped thier NDA and told people we ran out of money and this is the game where releasing. Thats a far cry from been a bunch of crooksIf you bought vanguard when it released it was nobodys fault but your own . It was a well know fact that the game wasnt ready for release Myself ive been playing it every setting maxed at 1920x1200 sence day 1 with no regrets .Its a fantastic game
Now funcom on the other hand totaly lied and munipulated there NDA to keep the fact that there game wasnt ready for release.I think its a pretty well know fact now that its a pretty good game that could have used a bit more time in the oven Myself i might have tryed it out if funcom would have been honest and not tryed to pull the wool over my eyes with there little pvp weekend drop the NDA on a couple instanced BG's and level 1 to 5 trick .The whole time hiding the fact that there game isnt finished by saying we dont want to ruin the surprize for people .
Simple truth is the facts would have hurt there release sales big time , does anyone else feel they where more than a little shady with the facts surrounding the release or do you think am off base thinking this
Something else people might want to consider before bashing Funcom. They've gone from having a game with maybe tens of thousands (Anarchy Online) to one with hundreds of thousands. Thats a big jump for anyone. If people are still having major issues with AoC a few months from now then by all means, pile on Funcom. Until then I'm willing to cut them some slack.
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
AoC is more like a fence of hype and fanboys. Half of it is BS and half the fanboys actually think they are helping, even though the people who read their posts are generally turned off by them. Vanguard was all BS and Vanbois were completely off their rockers like political hachet men.
The hype and fanboism for both games is/was definitely in the upper tier. Along with WoW, Darkfall, DnL etc. But their character is somewhat different. Brad McQuaid was basically a crook, Funcom meh I don't really know yet, but they aren't anywhere near as crooked as BMQ even though there have been shady and mishandled things.
You have a selective memory or what . when vanguard released they had an open beta and dropped thier NDA and told people we ran out of money and this is the game where releasing. Thats a far cry from been a bunch of crooksIf you bought vanguard when it released it was nobodys fault but your own . It was a well know fact that the game wasnt ready for release Myself ive been playing it every setting maxed at 1920x1200 sence day 1 with no regrets .Its a fantastic game
Now funcom on the other hand totaly lied and munipulated there NDA to keep the fact that there game wasnt ready for release.I think its a pretty well know fact now that its a pretty good game that could have used a bit more time in the oven Myself i might have tryed it out if funcom would have been honest and not tryed to pull the wool over my eyes with there little pvp weekend drop the NDA on a couple instanced BG's and level 1 to 5 trick .The whole time hiding the fact that there game isnt finished by saying we dont want to ruin the surprize for people .
Simple truth is the facts would have hurt there release sales big time , does anyone else feel they where more than a little shady with the facts surrounding the release or do you think am off base thinking this
No I mean BMQ specifically as far as hype is concerned not all of Sigil.Its interesting that you think the run up to release of AoC was more dishonest. I am not gonna argue with you as I think an OK argument could be made either way. But it is interesting.
However in reference to the fanboys in specific the Vanguard Fanboys I believe were worse and of a different character than AoC's current crop. There are certain fanboys in AoC that try to do the old lipstick on a pig trick and others that just flame away. Not saying AoC sucks with wtih pig comment but that is their general strategy for every non-vaourable point made. But the vanguard vanbois waged a serious a concerted campaign that was just plain crazy and bullying. Thre are similar shades of that in AoC, but it can't seem to muster up the necessary energy or snowball effect or whatever.
I have a theory that fanoyism relies heavily on groupthink. And the AoC fanboy groupthink just isn't as coherent or crazy as the old vanbois.
The launch of 'Age of Conan' is in no way comparable to the Launch of 'Vanguard'.
I pre-ordered the Collector's Editions of both games & whilst 'Vanguard' remained virtually unplayable for me right up until the end of my trial subscription, almost 18 months later the same machine plays 'Age of Conan' with no real problems.
I never made it out of the newbie zone in 'Vanguard' so I can't comment on the rest of the game, but to me it just seemed too much like the original Everquest with a higher spec graphics engine. There was no attempt to engage new players in any sort of story, just a lot of NPCs muttering about your character having a body odour problem using exactly the same voiceover.
By contrast, the newbie area in 'Age of Conan' is a deliberate attempt to engage players in the world setting & has a compelling story with many different excellent voice actors. I am slightly concerned that it might get repetetive after a while if I create many alts, but at least the first few times it is very impressive.
I have read many very useful critical posts made by actual players. In particular, following all the posts on the state of PvP I avoided those servers & went RP-PvE. I had been looking forward to trying the PvP, but at the moment it just doesn't seem worth the effort & hopefully Funcom will pay attention to the feedback in those threads & act accordingly over the coming months.
As far as the negative unsubstantiated posts like that made by the OP, they are getting very tedious. The game isn't perfect by any means but at least if people are going to criticise it they should say why, rather than just claim that the game must be bad because of the volume of comments made by other trolls, many of whom don't even seem to have played it.
If you can't "Have your cake & eat it too", then how can "The proof of the pudding be in the eating"?
Take the Hecatomb? TCG What Is Your Doom? quiz.
Its nowhere near Vanguard. And as always the community does not represed the in-game community.
I personally draw as much enjoyment from reading the Haters as I do from reading the Fanbois as you call them. They are just as fanatical and zealous in their attacks on a game they do not care about as the Fanbois are in defending it.
So an all around win situation isn't it? I can enjoy playing a game (which has issues but is still enjoyable to me, go figure), and I can read forums and laugh my ass off about people acting as though MMO's are some sort of religion, some sort of God in whose name they have to fight and bash.
"BY THE EMPERORS LIGHT, ATTACK!"
Cheers!
Ive played up to lvl40 and my review of game up to that lvl is 5/10 this a honest opinion of game, i say is very avarage, many bugs and flawed in many ways, this has nothing to do with hate or bash game.It seems many AoC fans just dont see the many faults in game, thats there right to do, but still not honest opinion.
Forums are to express some feeling yes this has nothing to do with religion to release hate and bash or to express joy, its just to explain how you think about game or not, we all free to say we hate it or love it, its a part of playing games, going to forums like this.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
AoC is more like a fence of hype and fanboys. Half of it is BS and half the fanboys actually think they are helping, even though the people who read their posts are generally turned off by them. Vanguard was all BS and Vanbois were completely off their rockers like political hachet men.
The hype and fanboism for both games is/was definitely in the upper tier. Along with WoW, Darkfall, DnL etc. But their character is somewhat different. Brad McQuaid was basically a crook, Funcom meh I don't really know yet, but they aren't anywhere near as crooked as BMQ even though there have been shady and mishandled things.
You have a selective memory or what . when vanguard released they had an open beta and dropped thier NDA and told people we ran out of money and this is the game where releasing. Thats a far cry from been a bunch of crooksIf you bought vanguard when it released it was nobodys fault but your own . It was a well know fact that the game wasnt ready for release Myself ive been playing it every setting maxed at 1920x1200 sence day 1 with no regrets .Its a fantastic game
Now funcom on the other hand totaly lied and munipulated there NDA to keep the fact that there game wasnt ready for release.I think its a pretty well know fact now that its a pretty good game that could have used a bit more time in the oven Myself i might have tryed it out if funcom would have been honest and not tryed to pull the wool over my eyes with there little pvp weekend drop the NDA on a couple instanced BG's and level 1 to 5 trick .The whole time hiding the fact that there game isnt finished by saying we dont want to ruin the surprize for people .
Simple truth is the facts would have hurt there release sales big time , does anyone else feel they where more than a little shady with the facts surrounding the release or do you think am off base thinking this
No I mean BMQ specifically as far as hype is concerned not all of Sigil.Its interesting that you think the run up to release of AoC was more dishonest. I am not gonna argue with you as I think an OK argument could be made either way. But it is interesting.
However in reference to the fanboys in specific the Vanguard Fanboys I believe were worse and of a different character than AoC's current crop. There are certain fanboys in AoC that try to do the old lipstick on a pig trick and others that just flame away. Not saying AoC sucks with wtih pig comment but that is their general strategy for every non-vaourable point made. But the vanguard vanbois waged a serious a concerted campaign that was just plain crazy and bullying. Thre are similar shades of that in AoC, but it can't seem to muster up the necessary energy or snowball effect or whatever.
I have a theory that fanoyism relies heavily on groupthink. And the AoC fanboy groupthink just isn't as coherent or crazy as the old vanbois.
I find it strange that you single out BMQ as been a crook for doing something that everyone in the gaming industry is guilty of. Myself i admire the man for breaking from the mold and trying to create a game he was passionate about . I can pitcure Funcoms gaute whatever his name is up on that stage right now as clear as a bell saying AOC will have absolutly massive siege pvp , our servers can sopport 1000's of characters
Ok not exacly a crook but he know at the time that it was 48 on 48,so why not just tell me that .48 on 48 could be quite fun and dynamic if its done right , why try and hide it. I remember AV before cross server bg's we really had some fun battles What made it fun was that you know everyone . you fought them all in other bg's or at crossroads and south shore and mill battles, that was what made it fun. I think aoc will have enough rivaly and dynamics that those 48 on 48 are gunna be quite fun
Anyways ya am a vanbois or whatever and i came to this site because i saw a artical about vanguard , looks neat wonder where i can get some info for this game . Few pages later ad for MMORPG.com oh lets go there , never serfed gaming forums before and the amount of hate and stuff that was been spewed was overwhelming pretty hard not to get caught up in it all and stay civil sometimes
Vanguards coming into its own friend and when you get bored of those other games come give it a try . You can leave a post thanking us vanbois for sticking it out and helping them fix a great game on the vanguatd forums, see you in Telon