i think some people refer to wow as cartoony. I would refer to it as a game with a low polygon count. which i think is pretty misleading when people refer to it as cartoony. just look at team fortress 2, that's what I would call cartoony.
does it really suck? on a related subject about graphics tho: i think some people refer to wow as cartoony. I would refer to it as a game with a low polygon count. which i think is pretty misleading when people refer to it as cartoony. just look at team fortress 2, that's what I would call cartoony. if anything, wow is below cartoony.
Wow, I cant beleive it, good FPS! My FPS have more then doubled in every possible location. I reformated my PC to windows x64 addition, and downloaded wow again, here is simular screens But I still do get bad FPS in cities. When standing in the same spot that i did in ogrimire, i got 19fps instead of 10.
You're still not getting as high as I would expect, but I imagine that's mostly due to running it with all your settings maxed. You might try playing with the graphic settings in the game a bit to see if you can get a little better in Orgrimmar. I would think with a little tweaking you should see consistent 30FPS in town and won't even notice the difference visually. Outside of town you should be pushing 100 FPS.
UOs graphics sucked... best MMO in history to date (before the EA takeover). If anything sucks in wow, it's the lame net code. My god, the fact that they HAD to put in instanced battlegrounds to cope with the fact that the engine can't handle actual open non-instanced pvp is beyond me. Shows that any knuckleheads can get a winner product with failures .
UOs graphics sucked... best MMO in history to date (before the EA takeover). If anything sucks in wow, it's the lame net code. My god, the fact that they HAD to put in instanced battlegrounds to cope with the fact that the engine can't handle actual open non-instanced pvp is beyond me. Shows that any knuckleheads can get a winner product with failures .
Oh? They put in BGs because there were never 50 or 60 people pvping like maniacs in Tarren Mill/Hillsbrad area because the engine couldn't handle it? Silly me, I thought all that time while I was running around in that brawl "hmmm man its a shame the gfx engine can't handle this... oops rogue!!" Thanks for setting myself and others straight.
So whats your position over in Blizzard that you know so much about the inner workings? Think you can pull a few strings and get me a beta spot for WotLK? I'm not really playing WoW but if you could I'd pick it up again.
I have a decent system but Im not getting those insanely high framerates some here are reporting.
My system...
Intel dual core 2400 processors
4 gigs of ram
dual 7900gtx 512mb cards in sli
windows xp pro
soundblaster x-fi
I get 55-60fps no matter where I am. In IF with a full crowd, 55fps. In the Barrens all alone I get 60fps.
I have the game's graphics set on 1920x1080 with everything maxed. I only have 3 small addons running in the background.
I know I could probably get my fps from 60 to maybe 75 if I went down to 1280x800 and lowered AA and 24 color stuff but why bother ? 60fps is just fine anyway and the game is rather ugly even on max settings.
This very same system let me run Age of Conan on High settings with shaders off but everything else maxed and I got 40-55ish fps.
Personally I think its just a matter of older graphics engines arent going to utilize or be efficient with newer cards. I went back to Star Wars Galaxies recently on a free vet trial and the game still ran the same (my old system was far weaker yet I get the same FPS with a much more powerful system)
I really wish Blizz would update the graphics for WoW. Its a pretty ugly game compared to others. And Im not talking about the cartoonish graphics. Its the total lack of details. Let us scale the graphics like newer MMO's do with an Ultra High, High, Medium, Low, Ultra Low settings Bar. This would allow those with older machines to still play and yet give others some serious eye candy.
Last I read, a dev from Blizz mentioned the possiblity of a new graphics update for the next expansion after WOTLK. Thats like 2.5 years from now with the way Blizz slowly launches expansions. The game needs new graphics now
I have a decent system but Im not getting those insanely high framerates some here are reporting. My system... Intel dual core 2400 processors 4 gigs of ram dual 7900gtx 512mb cards in sli windows xp pro soundblaster x-fi
I get 55-60fps no matter where I am. In IF with a full crowd, 55fps. In the Barrens all alone I get 60fps. I have the game's graphics set on 1920x1080 with everything maxed. I only have 3 small addons running in the background. I know I could probably get my fps from 60 to maybe 75 if I went down to 1280x800 and lowered AA and 24 color stuff but why bother ? 60fps is just fine anyway and the game is rather ugly even on max settings. This very same system let me run Age of Conan on High settings with shaders off but everything else maxed and I got 40-55ish fps. Personally I think its just a matter of older graphics engines arent going to utilize or be efficient with newer cards. I went back to Star Wars Galaxies recently on a free vet trial and the game still ran the same (my old system was far weaker yet I get the same FPS with a much more powerful system) I really wish Blizz would update the graphics for WoW. Its a pretty ugly game compared to others. And Im not talking about the cartoonish graphics. Its the total lack of details. Let us scale the graphics like newer MMO's do with an Ultra High, High, Medium, Low, Ultra Low settings Bar. This would allow those with older machines to still play and yet give others some serious eye candy. Last I read, a dev from Blizz mentioned the possiblity of a new graphics update for the next expansion after WOTLK. Thats like 2.5 years from now with the way Blizz slowly launches expansions. The game needs new graphics now
Sounds to me you have VSYNC on and a refresh rate of 60.. hence no more than 60fps.
IMHO WoW gfx are fine, they still feel epic to me. High poly count s do not equal good graphics, its the guys behind the graphics, designers modlers texture artists and Blizzard has the finest around,.
Hmm create new content or...completely recreate all the old graphics content...i think most companies are going to go for new content over graphics. The engine can get updated all it wants but it won't fix the low resolution models & textures that WoW's older areas use. In order to make them look better they'd have to do like EQ1 started but never finished doing...they'd have to remake every single peice.
All this proves is that you managed to somehow make a game that will get 25 FPS on a 486 get 25 frames on a PC that should be getting 120. That must have taken some doing. I have 1/4 the PC you have and get 60 FPS. Congrats.
He obviously has vista,wich is because of various reasons like drivers ,horrible for gaming.If you have the 60 that you say i am willing to bet you are NOT on vista?He also has a duo core to wich WOW couldn't care less about.
As to many people posting about WOW's graphics ,it is and never has been a secret that the game is mediocre at best in every facet of it's design.It was a game made to compete with SOE and EQ,they didn't know how good EQ2 was going to be at the time,so they made a game that had cheap graphics and anything near a consoles ability could run.
In comparison to show just how bad vista is for gaming,i have played unreal tournament since it's inception over 4 different PC's.My original i got around 18-30 fps,my second i got around 80-120 and my third i got around 150-200 give or take 20.My newer vista machine like you said should get dbl the fps but it gets around 44-50...really really sad.
I might also add the OP was showing the differences between the two games GW and WOW on his machine ,so weather or not he had any flaws ,it would have affected both games the same ,so there is no excuses for the WOW engine.When i played WOW i didn't even need to see any fps because the graphics were just bad right off the hop,no website or tom's hardware was needed to tell me what i was looking at.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
All this proves is that you managed to somehow make a game that will get 25 FPS on a 486 get 25 frames on a PC that should be getting 120. That must have taken some doing. I have 1/4 the PC you have and get 60 FPS. Congrats.
He obviously has vista,wich is because of various reasons like drivers ,horrible for gaming.If you have the 60 that you say i am willing to bet you are NOT on vista?He also has a duo core to wich WOW couldn't care less about.
As to many people posting about WOW's graphics ,it is and never has been a secret that the game is mediocre at best in every facet of it's design.It was a game made to compete with SOE and EQ,they didn't know how good EQ2 was going to be at the time,so they made a game that had cheap graphics and anything near a consoles ability could run.
In comparison to show just how bad vista is for gaming,i have played unreal tournament since it's inception over 4 different PC's.My original i got around 18-30 fps,my second i got around 80-120 and my third i got around 150-200 give or take 20.My newer vista machine like you said should get dbl the fps but it gets around 44-50...really really sad.
I might also add the OP was showing the differences between the two games GW and WOW on his machine ,so weather or not he had any flaws ,it would have affected both games the same ,so there is no excuses for the WOW engine.When i played WOW i didn't even need to see any fps because the graphics were just bad right off the hop,no website or tom's hardware was needed to tell me what i was looking at.
I have Vista, 2 gigs of ram, nVidia 8500 card and single core. Constant 60 FPS in game except for Shatt which it dips down to around 30 or 40. I don't have the graphics settings maxed however, the FPS is more important to me than pretty graphics. They are not set to the lowest settings though either, somewhere in the middle, game looks great to me. This guy is running with 4 gig and nVidia 8800 with all settings maxed and getting 75 FPS but dips down to around 30 in cities. If he lowered the graphics settings slightly I think he would see a big improvement although there's really no need to since that should be fine anyway. Let's not forget that the game is 3 and half years old and the graphics engine is older than that. Many people here have claimed over 100 FPS with a new PC. Frankly I don't see the problem.
I said this MANY times but, I do not have vista!!! Im just running a theme. With 4g of ram, the theme takes less then 2% of it, so its not the theme. I also proved that its not my rig, by comparing it to games like Guild Wars and Crysis.
I completely agree with admriker4 when he wrote
Originally posted by admriker4
I get 55-60fps no matter where I am. In IF with a full crowd, 55fps. In the Barrens all alone I get 60fps.
Personally I think its just a matter of older graphics engines arent going to utilize or be efficient with newer cards. I went back to Star Wars Galaxies recently on a free vet trial and the game still ran the same (my old system was far weaker yet I get the same FPS with a much more powerful system) I really wish Blizz would update the graphics for WoW. Its a pretty ugly game compared to others. And Im not talking about the cartoonish graphics. Its the total lack of details. Let us scale the graphics like newer MMO's do with an Ultra High, High, Medium, Low, Ultra Low settings Bar. This would allow those with older machines to still play and yet give others some serious eye candy.
And I do agree that WoW's graphics suck also. I know, its soposed to be toony but this is just an ugly toony really. There is bad lighting, the textures doesnt have much detail and so on. But hey, whatever makes a 3 year old computer run better then mine
I have a decent system but Im not getting those insanely high framerates some here are reporting. My system... Intel dual core 2400 processors 4 gigs of ram dual 7900gtx 512mb cards in sli windows xp pro soundblaster x-fi
I get 55-60fps no matter where I am. In IF with a full crowd, 55fps. In the Barrens all alone I get 60fps. I have the game's graphics set on 1920x1080 with everything maxed. I only have 3 small addons running in the background. I know I could probably get my fps from 60 to maybe 75 if I went down to 1280x800 and lowered AA and 24 color stuff but why bother ? 60fps is just fine anyway and the game is rather ugly even on max settings. This very same system let me run Age of Conan on High settings with shaders off but everything else maxed and I got 40-55ish fps. Personally I think its just a matter of older graphics engines arent going to utilize or be efficient with newer cards. I went back to Star Wars Galaxies recently on a free vet trial and the game still ran the same (my old system was far weaker yet I get the same FPS with a much more powerful system) I really wish Blizz would update the graphics for WoW. Its a pretty ugly game compared to others. And Im not talking about the cartoonish graphics. Its the total lack of details. Let us scale the graphics like newer MMO's do with an Ultra High, High, Medium, Low, Ultra Low settings Bar. This would allow those with older machines to still play and yet give others some serious eye candy. Last I read, a dev from Blizz mentioned the possiblity of a new graphics update for the next expansion after WOTLK. Thats like 2.5 years from now with the way Blizz slowly launches expansions. The game needs new graphics now
Sounds to me you have VSYNC on and a refresh rate of 60.. hence no more than 60fps.
IMHO WoW gfx are fine, they still feel epic to me. High poly count s do not equal good graphics, its the guys behind the graphics, designers modlers texture artists and Blizzard has the finest around,.
So if I change those things I'd get higher FPS ?
I dont see any option for vsync.
I only have one option for refresh rate and thats 60. Is that because I have my desktop settings at 1024x768 ? I cant stand leaving it on native display of 1920x1200, icons and text is too small for me to see at that size. Otherwise I dont see how to change refresh rate as I only have one option. Im using a Planar 23inch widescreen LCD monitor (top of the line, I paid $1,200 for this baby)
I have a decent system but Im not getting those insanely high framerates some here are reporting. My system... Intel dual core 2400 processors 4 gigs of ram dual 7900gtx 512mb cards in sli windows xp pro soundblaster x-fi
I get 55-60fps no matter where I am. In IF with a full crowd, 55fps. In the Barrens all alone I get 60fps. I have the game's graphics set on 1920x1080 with everything maxed. I only have 3 small addons running in the background. I know I could probably get my fps from 60 to maybe 75 if I went down to 1280x800 and lowered AA and 24 color stuff but why bother ? 60fps is just fine anyway and the game is rather ugly even on max settings. This very same system let me run Age of Conan on High settings with shaders off but everything else maxed and I got 40-55ish fps. Personally I think its just a matter of older graphics engines arent going to utilize or be efficient with newer cards. I went back to Star Wars Galaxies recently on a free vet trial and the game still ran the same (my old system was far weaker yet I get the same FPS with a much more powerful system) I really wish Blizz would update the graphics for WoW. Its a pretty ugly game compared to others. And Im not talking about the cartoonish graphics. Its the total lack of details. Let us scale the graphics like newer MMO's do with an Ultra High, High, Medium, Low, Ultra Low settings Bar. This would allow those with older machines to still play and yet give others some serious eye candy. Last I read, a dev from Blizz mentioned the possiblity of a new graphics update for the next expansion after WOTLK. Thats like 2.5 years from now with the way Blizz slowly launches expansions. The game needs new graphics now
Sounds to me you have VSYNC on and a refresh rate of 60.. hence no more than 60fps.
IMHO WoW gfx are fine, they still feel epic to me. High poly count s do not equal good graphics, its the guys behind the graphics, designers modlers texture artists and Blizzard has the finest around,.
So if I change those things I'd get higher FPS ?
I dont see any option for vsync.
I only have one option for refresh rate and thats 60. Is that because I have my desktop settings at 1024x768 ? I cant stand leaving it on native display of 1920x1200, icons and text is too small for me to see at that size. Otherwise I dont see how to change refresh rate as I only have one option. Im using a Planar 23inch widescreen LCD monitor (top of the line, I paid $1,200 for this baby)
Its called "vertical sync" and is to the right of the resolution drop down in display settings in WoW, And yes disabling it will boost your FPS massivly however you will get some ugly screen tear when you turn or move quickly.
When Vsync is enabled it will update the display as fast as your display can update, in your case 60FPS max, turn it off and it updates it as fast as your hardware can draw each frame... but if you getting 50-60FPS with vsync on theres no reason to turn it off.
Thing that flares for me is that he has that huge block where the FPS is and last time I seen that was when running fraps. Fraps eats a ton of fps unless you tweak it.
Some fun facts: WoW doesn't run that great in a window, use full screen mode. Windows 3D applications almost always run slower in windowed mode. Running in windowed mode and having the window overlap the edge of the screen is even slower. People who don't know how computers work and post absurd statments make me cranky.
You know what abdurbs me is when people post comments without reading everything first.
Go past page 1 and youll see fullscreen. There is only a 2 fps boost.
your windows is skinned, who know what other ghetto software addons you are running. my WOW never dips below 60fps with vsync on. it is definitly something you have running on your OS. also got max antialisingon and max graphic settings. try removing all the junk off your computer.
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I have windows XP. Im using a modified uxtheme.dll to make a look-alike.
well turn it off
and see what happens
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does it really suck?
on a related subject about graphics tho:
i think some people refer to wow as cartoony. I would refer to it as a game with a low polygon count. which i think is pretty misleading when people refer to it as cartoony. just look at team fortress 2, that's what I would call cartoony.
if anything, wow is below cartoony.
THERE ARE DIFFERENT STYLES OF CARTOONY.....
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You're still not getting as high as I would expect, but I imagine that's mostly due to running it with all your settings maxed. You might try playing with the graphic settings in the game a bit to see if you can get a little better in Orgrimmar. I would think with a little tweaking you should see consistent 30FPS in town and won't even notice the difference visually. Outside of town you should be pushing 100 FPS.
UOs graphics sucked... best MMO in history to date (before the EA takeover). If anything sucks in wow, it's the lame net code. My god, the fact that they HAD to put in instanced battlegrounds to cope with the fact that the engine can't handle actual open non-instanced pvp is beyond me. Shows that any knuckleheads can get a winner product with failures
.
WoW is just old game with old, simple, ugly graphic.
I mean when I started playing wow I've had this rig:
AMD Athlon thunderbird 1ghz , geforce 2 GTS 64MB, 768MB RAM
I leveled my first char on it to 60
Runing wow on medium settings was no problem. In some caves I got around 80fps. On heavy populated places like Ogrimar around 10 fps.
This is my third rig since that:
Athlon X2 6400+, Radeon 3870, 2GB RAM
and ofc I'm not playing that old wow anymore. Its just waste of money invested to new rigs.
Oh? They put in BGs because there were never 50 or 60 people pvping like maniacs in Tarren Mill/Hillsbrad area because the engine couldn't handle it? Silly me, I thought all that time while I was running around in that brawl "hmmm man its a shame the gfx engine can't handle this... oops rogue!!" Thanks for setting myself and others straight.
So whats your position over in Blizzard that you know so much about the inner workings? Think you can pull a few strings and get me a beta spot for WotLK? I'm not really playing WoW but if you could I'd pick it up again.
that the graphics engine on WoW sucks i guess. were you confused on the point?
did you have wowhead, xfire, allakazam installed running with WoW before the reformat? some 3rd party program could have been causing that.
I have a decent system but Im not getting those insanely high framerates some here are reporting.
My system...
Intel dual core 2400 processors
4 gigs of ram
dual 7900gtx 512mb cards in sli
windows xp pro
soundblaster x-fi
I get 55-60fps no matter where I am. In IF with a full crowd, 55fps. In the Barrens all alone I get 60fps.
I have the game's graphics set on 1920x1080 with everything maxed. I only have 3 small addons running in the background.
I know I could probably get my fps from 60 to maybe 75 if I went down to 1280x800 and lowered AA and 24 color stuff but why bother ? 60fps is just fine anyway and the game is rather ugly even on max settings.
This very same system let me run Age of Conan on High settings with shaders off but everything else maxed and I got 40-55ish fps.
Personally I think its just a matter of older graphics engines arent going to utilize or be efficient with newer cards. I went back to Star Wars Galaxies recently on a free vet trial and the game still ran the same (my old system was far weaker yet I get the same FPS with a much more powerful system)
I really wish Blizz would update the graphics for WoW. Its a pretty ugly game compared to others. And Im not talking about the cartoonish graphics. Its the total lack of details. Let us scale the graphics like newer MMO's do with an Ultra High, High, Medium, Low, Ultra Low settings Bar. This would allow those with older machines to still play and yet give others some serious eye candy.
Last I read, a dev from Blizz mentioned the possiblity of a new graphics update for the next expansion after WOTLK. Thats like 2.5 years from now with the way Blizz slowly launches expansions. The game needs new graphics now
Sounds to me you have VSYNC on and a refresh rate of 60.. hence no more than 60fps.
IMHO WoW gfx are fine, they still feel epic to me. High poly count s do not equal good graphics, its the guys behind the graphics, designers modlers texture artists and Blizzard has the finest around,.
Hmm create new content or...completely recreate all the old graphics content...i think most companies are going to go for new content over graphics. The engine can get updated all it wants but it won't fix the low resolution models & textures that WoW's older areas use. In order to make them look better they'd have to do like EQ1 started but never finished doing...they'd have to remake every single peice.
He obviously has vista,wich is because of various reasons like drivers ,horrible for gaming.If you have the 60 that you say i am willing to bet you are NOT on vista?He also has a duo core to wich WOW couldn't care less about.
As to many people posting about WOW's graphics ,it is and never has been a secret that the game is mediocre at best in every facet of it's design.It was a game made to compete with SOE and EQ,they didn't know how good EQ2 was going to be at the time,so they made a game that had cheap graphics and anything near a consoles ability could run.
In comparison to show just how bad vista is for gaming,i have played unreal tournament since it's inception over 4 different PC's.My original i got around 18-30 fps,my second i got around 80-120 and my third i got around 150-200 give or take 20.My newer vista machine like you said should get dbl the fps but it gets around 44-50...really really sad.
I might also add the OP was showing the differences between the two games GW and WOW on his machine ,so weather or not he had any flaws ,it would have affected both games the same ,so there is no excuses for the WOW engine.When i played WOW i didn't even need to see any fps because the graphics were just bad right off the hop,no website or tom's hardware was needed to tell me what i was looking at.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Agreed
He obviously has vista,wich is because of various reasons like drivers ,horrible for gaming.If you have the 60 that you say i am willing to bet you are NOT on vista?He also has a duo core to wich WOW couldn't care less about.
As to many people posting about WOW's graphics ,it is and never has been a secret that the game is mediocre at best in every facet of it's design.It was a game made to compete with SOE and EQ,they didn't know how good EQ2 was going to be at the time,so they made a game that had cheap graphics and anything near a consoles ability could run.
In comparison to show just how bad vista is for gaming,i have played unreal tournament since it's inception over 4 different PC's.My original i got around 18-30 fps,my second i got around 80-120 and my third i got around 150-200 give or take 20.My newer vista machine like you said should get dbl the fps but it gets around 44-50...really really sad.
I might also add the OP was showing the differences between the two games GW and WOW on his machine ,so weather or not he had any flaws ,it would have affected both games the same ,so there is no excuses for the WOW engine.When i played WOW i didn't even need to see any fps because the graphics were just bad right off the hop,no website or tom's hardware was needed to tell me what i was looking at.
I have Vista, 2 gigs of ram, nVidia 8500 card and single core. Constant 60 FPS in game except for Shatt which it dips down to around 30 or 40. I don't have the graphics settings maxed however, the FPS is more important to me than pretty graphics. They are not set to the lowest settings though either, somewhere in the middle, game looks great to me. This guy is running with 4 gig and nVidia 8800 with all settings maxed and getting 75 FPS but dips down to around 30 in cities. If he lowered the graphics settings slightly I think he would see a big improvement although there's really no need to since that should be fine anyway. Let's not forget that the game is 3 and half years old and the graphics engine is older than that. Many people here have claimed over 100 FPS with a new PC. Frankly I don't see the problem.
I said this MANY times but, I do not have vista!!! Im just running a theme. With 4g of ram, the theme takes less then 2% of it, so its not the theme. I also proved that its not my rig, by comparing it to games like Guild Wars and Crysis.
I completely agree with admriker4 when he wrote
And I do agree that WoW's graphics suck also. I know, its soposed to be toony but this is just an ugly toony really. There is bad lighting, the textures doesnt have much detail and so on. But hey, whatever makes a 3 year old computer run better then mine
Sounds to me you have VSYNC on and a refresh rate of 60.. hence no more than 60fps.
IMHO WoW gfx are fine, they still feel epic to me. High poly count s do not equal good graphics, its the guys behind the graphics, designers modlers texture artists and Blizzard has the finest around,.
So if I change those things I'd get higher FPS ?
I dont see any option for vsync.
I only have one option for refresh rate and thats 60. Is that because I have my desktop settings at 1024x768 ? I cant stand leaving it on native display of 1920x1200, icons and text is too small for me to see at that size. Otherwise I dont see how to change refresh rate as I only have one option. Im using a Planar 23inch widescreen LCD monitor (top of the line, I paid $1,200 for this baby)
Sounds to me you have VSYNC on and a refresh rate of 60.. hence no more than 60fps.
IMHO WoW gfx are fine, they still feel epic to me. High poly count s do not equal good graphics, its the guys behind the graphics, designers modlers texture artists and Blizzard has the finest around,.
So if I change those things I'd get higher FPS ?
I dont see any option for vsync.
I only have one option for refresh rate and thats 60. Is that because I have my desktop settings at 1024x768 ? I cant stand leaving it on native display of 1920x1200, icons and text is too small for me to see at that size. Otherwise I dont see how to change refresh rate as I only have one option. Im using a Planar 23inch widescreen LCD monitor (top of the line, I paid $1,200 for this baby)
Its called "vertical sync" and is to the right of the resolution drop down in display settings in WoW, And yes disabling it will boost your FPS massivly however you will get some ugly screen tear when you turn or move quickly.
When Vsync is enabled it will update the display as fast as your display can update, in your case 60FPS max, turn it off and it updates it as fast as your hardware can draw each frame... but if you getting 50-60FPS with vsync on theres no reason to turn it off.
Some fun facts:
WoW doesn't run that great in a window, use full screen mode.
Windows 3D applications almost always run slower in windowed mode.
Running in windowed mode and having the window overlap the edge of the screen is even slower.
People who don't know how computers work and post absurd statments make me cranky.
Still waiting for your Holy Grail MMORPG? Interesting...
Thing that flares for me is that he has that huge block where the FPS is and last time I seen that was when running fraps. Fraps eats a ton of fps unless you tweak it.
You know what abdurbs me is when people post comments without reading everything first.
Go past page 1 and youll see fullscreen. There is only a 2 fps boost.
your windows is skinned, who know what other ghetto software addons you are running. my WOW never dips below 60fps with vsync on. it is definitly something you have running on your OS. also got max antialisingon and max graphic settings. try removing all the junk off your computer.
Im using a windows file to skin it, uxtheme.dll :P
I reformated my pc, and without anything installed besides drivers, I ran WoW and posted the screenie.
BTW, I tried without fraps, I got no difference.
Have you tried using older video drivers? Sometimes the newest are not the best.
I get better frame rates in wow and I wouldnt even try crysis on my computer.
3000+ athlon 64
On board video 128mb ati
896mg ram...
Only time I ever drop below 20s is a room in kara that makes me run at about 5-10. Most of the time 30+.