To the OP: In short, the officially released stuff from Mythic is generally the worst possible quality because they're testing the game not the graphics. Wait till NDA lifts in open beta, more than likely they'll have textures in and maybe the final lighting system - though since it's still a beta they might keep things the way they are now, at lowest settings.
-------------------------------------- A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
I find the screenshots on the warhammer website really ugly. Take the screens from WoW or LotR which are more vibrant, just better. The warhammer screens miss 'sfeer' (Dutch word, didnt know the correct english word). Am I the only one who feels the same?
Give the guy a break, will ya? he is not a troll and he IS RIGHT!
That screenshot looks like crap, period! And no, it is not the oldest screenshot, it is dated "31st january 2008" so 5 months old.
Then again, the videos TheSheikh linked look awesome.
I think here is a problem of Mythic posting not exactly super HD quality shots more than the game not looking up the part. A bit more QA on their part and yes, I have heard it all about "no lighting, low textures" etc etc, but these are screenshots posted on their main warhammer site, they are basically advertisement and showcase of the game. Would have it been so hard to ramp it all up and take the screenshot then?
I do not care to see low quality shots that do not represent the final game state, show me the real deal, as near as you can, and show it to me as soon as you can. People should not have to feel the need to "defend" Mythic screenshots with these comments, they should stand on their own feet.
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
I find the screenshots on the warhammer website really ugly. Take the screens from WoW or LotR which are more vibrant, just better. The warhammer screens miss 'sfeer' (Dutch word, didnt know the correct english word). Am I the only one who feels the same?
Give the guy a break, will ya? he is not a troll and he IS RIGHT!
That screenshot looks like crap, period! And no, it is not the oldest screenshot, it is dated "31st january 2008" so 5 months old.
Then again, the videos TheSheikh linked look awesome.
I think here is a problem of Mythic posting not exactly super HD quality shots more than the game not looking up the part. A bit more QA on their part and yes, I have heard it all about "no lighting, low textures" etc etc, but these are screenshots posted on their main warhammer site, they are basically advertisement and showcase of the game. Would have it been so hard to ramp it all up and take the screenshot then?
I do not care to see low quality shots that do not represent the final game state, show me the real deal, as near as you can, and show it to me as soon as you can. People should not have to feel the need to "defend" Mythic screenshots with these comments, they should stand on their own feet.
To ME, they stand just fine. I can GLADLY accept the game if it looked just like that. The fact that we know it will actually be BETTER is merely icing on my cake. I have long been a herald for the ideal that gameplay is lord of graphics, and not the other way around. If you disagree....then I would direct you toward games like Vanguard and AoC. They were designed with you in mind.
Though...it would appear (judging by what I am seeing from feedback) that designing for graphics hasn't once landed someone in the piles of money yet. Perhaps next time, then? At least funcom made back its investment (if you assume they sold every shipped box AND score a 1/3 retention).
I just don't see anything ugly in the pictures at all. It looks great fun to me. I rather hate realism....I can get all the realism I want by going to work. When I game, I want fantastical. I want something different...something I cannot see out my window. I see that crap all the time. I'm the kind of player that actually likes a good art direction....I love Cel-shading when done right. I loved the art in Legend of Mana, and play that game to this day.
If anything, people don't need to defend Mythic at all. YOU need to defend YOUR stance here. Most of us find you both trite and silly for even suggesting what you do. I defy you to prove to me that you are neither in a manner of my liking.
Mind you all, I havent played or seen warhammer in action so I don't have an opinion there. I am only saying I don't like the screenshots on the website, they just miss some 'feeling'. It's hard to explain.
If the screens on the website aren't the best they can maken then remove them and put up the best. But thats up for them to decide, it's their game
There are videos out on the web from the latest beta that shows how far the graphics have come along. Trust me, many will be surprised by how great this game looks.
I find the screenshots on the warhammer website really ugly. Take the screens from WoW or LotR which are more vibrant, just better. The warhammer screens miss 'sfeer' (Dutch word, didnt know the correct english word). Am I the only one who feels the same?
Post some of the screenshots you are disappointed in so that we can explain the reasons behind those screens looking mediocre and outdated.
I like landscape screenshots so Ill use that as example. I am looking at the January 31 section, 3th picture (some trees with a church). I find that a very ugly screen for example.
I find the screenshots on the warhammer website really ugly. Take the screens from WoW or LotR which are more vibrant, just better. The warhammer screens miss 'sfeer' (Dutch word, didnt know the correct english word). Am I the only one who feels the same?
Post some of the screenshots you are disappointed in so that we can explain the reasons behind those screens looking mediocre and outdated.
I like landscape screenshots so Ill use that as example. I am looking at the January 31 section, 3th picture (some trees with a church). I find that a very ugly screen for example.
Yeah lets get super graphics like from those new single player PS3-Xbox360 games! I mean dropping to 1 FPS when 5 people gather around and cast spells will be awesome!
NO amount of current techonology will allow you to run High rez, High Poly count, games with MASSIVE amounts of people around. You are naive and looking at a single person game thinking that it can be an MMO. Sorry but it doesn't work that way. In an MMO your computer needs to handle a ludicris amount of information at any given second and on top of that the more people that are on the screen fighting the worse it gets.
I know the next argument of what about FPS's. Well they have a lot less to worry about as far as computing goes. Weapon load out, character customization(if there is any), and small maps compared to entire worlds. In mmo's they have the whole world to worry about, character customization(like 10 peieces of gear, stats, spells, career mastery, etc). I am sure that an "mmo" could produce a Scenario that would give you 5 basic characters and 4-5 different spells that could run on ultra graphics settings but it wouldn 't be that fun.
If this was a SINGLE player game I would complain about the graphics. Since it is an MMO I am thinking "Holy crap those are some pretty good graphics for an MMO that is meant for large scale PvP".
Beleive me when the time comes it wont be "the graphics are crap" it will be "My game is at 1 FPS I need to turn the graphics down".
For the OPer and anyone else the screenshots are still out of date. The Graphics Question below is from Massively.com that tested WAR a few weeks ago.
The Graphics Question: Let's be frank for a moment. Some of the early Warhammer screenshots, even ones released as recently as last spring, were a bit dodgey. Washed out, extremely samey. The reason, we discovered during our visit, is that detailed lighting models were only added to the game fairly recently. The final lighting schema isn't even in the game yet, and each light source has to be placed into the game by hand. EA Mythic workstations all have a distributed computing program loaded onto them that assists that part of the team with running brute-force computations at night. The result is that almost no-one has seen what the game will really truly look like at launch ... but players have been forming opinions on everything released so far.
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I find the screenshots on the warhammer website really ugly. Take the screens from WoW or LotR which are more vibrant, just better. The warhammer screens miss 'sfeer' (Dutch word, didnt know the correct english word). Am I the only one who feels the same?
Post some of the screenshots you are disappointed in so that we can explain the reasons behind those screens looking mediocre and outdated.
I like landscape screenshots so Ill use that as example. I am looking at the January 31 section, 3th picture (some trees with a church). I find that a very ugly screen for example.
I think the character models look great but the envrionments just look plain bad.
Yes, they do not look very good right now. We will just have to wait for them to switch from low system settings to medium or high. I suspect everything will fall into place and look great on higher settings.
The low res textures are not very tasty, but hey..... after they test gameplay animations/graphics are next.
What exactly is wrong with the graphics? I'll admit I've seen not very good looking ones and then some great ones (guess comp specs have nothing to do with that?). Just go look at videos that aren't on youtube, becuase youtube has awful quality. Try vimeo or something. Graphics look fine to me.
Okay, I think the graphics look fine... Even the ones Mythic is posting on their site. IMO, I'd prefer if they didn't use over-the-top graphics because for a game that's emphasis is on major PvP battles, graphics like that would drag the game badly. Maybe it's just me, but I think more cartoony graphics like that of TF2 are more fitting for a game like WAR.
Okay, I think the graphics look fine... Even the ones Mythic is posting on their site. IMO, I'd prefer if they didn't use over-the-top graphics because for a game that's emphasis is on major PvP battles, graphics like that would drag the game badly. Maybe it's just me, but I think more cartoony graphics like that of TF2 are more fitting for a game like WAR.
Well they do fit the IP, but as someone who is testing the game, i can't seem to find many cartoony aspects at all. I hope i'm not saying too much, but the game is very dark, and I don't mean contrast. And that darkness fits the games storyline completly. If the game was all cartoony with bright collors and vibrance like WoW, well it wouldn't be WAR? It wouldn't be a war torn land where the forces of evil are trying to take over the world.
Come to think of it, how can a game called Warcraft be all bubbley and cutesy?
I would play a MMO with Commander Keen style graphics if the gameplay was superb! I would not play a MMO that had outstanding, amazing graphics if the game was no fun.
Totally agree but understand this is not the 1990's anymore. Blizzard was was able to get away with it because expectations were low. Now that the gaming expectations are much higher people don't settle for less anymore either. Unless they delay the release I think what we are seeing is what people are getting graphics and gameplay wise. Wether people feel it is good or not it is up to them to decide.
I disagree... in trying to make the game look more 'real' they are in fact making it more ugly. Blizzard is one of the few companies who understands this. Just look at most WoW screens, they just look great... alive...
Why do you think retro gaming is growing? Great gameplay
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you aren't another WoW fanboy stirring up shit because a good game that isn't made by Blizzard is coming out.
The thing that cracks me up about the whole graphics debate is that people keep forgetting that their computers have limits. Age of Conan has become a shining example of how graphics can both make or break a game. Yeah, it's graphics are pretty...and people's computers are melting under the strain. All the zoning and population restrictions you see in the game are there because of the graphics. AoC would have been fine as a single player game or small group, but in an MMO setting they bit off far more than they could chew, and it's ruining the game for a lot of people.
WAR is going to be looking at HUGE battles, massive assaults on keeps and capital cities. Mythic knows better than to overdo it on graphics because of its experiences with DAoC. The graphics have improved a lot over the last few months but they're never going to look like AoC's because Mythic isn't being run by idiots.
That's not to say that WAR's graphics are going to suck, you just have to look for more recent videos to see how things are progressing, for instance...
For me, that's more than sufficient, because the bottom line with games is that the gameplay is far more important than the graphics. Pretty graphics draw a crowd but gameplay keeps them there.
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you aren't another WoW fanboy stirring up shit because a good game that isn't made by Blizzard is coming out.
WoWs graphics are decent at best.[/quote]
I did play WoW for 2 years and am playing EVE for a year now. And no, I aint no WoW fanboy but I do find the Blizzard style great (except for the WoW gameplay!).
What I don't understand why don't they remove the ugly screens and replace them with newer versions? Maybe even place a new version of the same screenshot with the old screenshot so people can see the progress.
For me, just like alot of others who aren't playing the beta, it's the information placed on the website that makes me decide to play or not. Placing and keeping, absolute screenshots they are giving me a wrong impression.
I did play WoW for 2 years and am playing EVE for a year now. And no, I aint no WoW fanboy but I do find the Blizzard style great (except for the WoW gameplay!). What I don't understand why don't they remove the ugly screens and replace them with newer versions? Maybe even place a new version of the same screenshot with the old screenshot so people can see the progress. For me, just like alot of others who aren't playing the beta, it's the information placed on the website that makes me decide to play or not. Placing and keeping, absolute screenshots they are giving me a wrong impression.
Because they are showing us the progression of things...
Instead of seeing ugly screenshots, why not see the improvements that have been made and stop being so fraking negative... They won't remove old screenshots for comparison reasons
"Instead of seeing ugly screenshots, why not see the improvements that have been made and stop being so fraking negative..."
Problem is, they aren't showing progress.. I mean.. I was looking at the latest pics and find them ugly... You can call it negative, but don't forget it's my money they want and for now I don't find it worth my money (based on those pics).
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WAR's engine is Oblivion's engine.
To the OP: In short, the officially released stuff from Mythic is generally the worst possible quality because they're testing the game not the graphics. Wait till NDA lifts in open beta, more than likely they'll have textures in and maybe the final lighting system - though since it's still a beta they might keep things the way they are now, at lowest settings.
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
Ingame model for Tchar'zanek
Tchar'zanek is awesome, but Karl Franz is my homeboy!
Wait till you see Tchar'zanek ingame, he is very large.....
STOP WHINING!
Give the guy a break, will ya? he is not a troll and he IS RIGHT!
That screenshot looks like crap, period! And no, it is not the oldest screenshot, it is dated "31st january 2008" so 5 months old.
Then again, the videos TheSheikh linked look awesome.
I think here is a problem of Mythic posting not exactly super HD quality shots more than the game not looking up the part. A bit more QA on their part and yes, I have heard it all about "no lighting, low textures" etc etc, but these are screenshots posted on their main warhammer site, they are basically advertisement and showcase of the game. Would have it been so hard to ramp it all up and take the screenshot then?
I do not care to see low quality shots that do not represent the final game state, show me the real deal, as near as you can, and show it to me as soon as you can. People should not have to feel the need to "defend" Mythic screenshots with these comments, they should stand on their own feet.
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
Give the guy a break, will ya? he is not a troll and he IS RIGHT!
That screenshot looks like crap, period! And no, it is not the oldest screenshot, it is dated "31st january 2008" so 5 months old.
Then again, the videos TheSheikh linked look awesome.
I think here is a problem of Mythic posting not exactly super HD quality shots more than the game not looking up the part. A bit more QA on their part and yes, I have heard it all about "no lighting, low textures" etc etc, but these are screenshots posted on their main warhammer site, they are basically advertisement and showcase of the game. Would have it been so hard to ramp it all up and take the screenshot then?
I do not care to see low quality shots that do not represent the final game state, show me the real deal, as near as you can, and show it to me as soon as you can. People should not have to feel the need to "defend" Mythic screenshots with these comments, they should stand on their own feet.
To ME, they stand just fine. I can GLADLY accept the game if it looked just like that. The fact that we know it will actually be BETTER is merely icing on my cake. I have long been a herald for the ideal that gameplay is lord of graphics, and not the other way around. If you disagree....then I would direct you toward games like Vanguard and AoC. They were designed with you in mind.
Though...it would appear (judging by what I am seeing from feedback) that designing for graphics hasn't once landed someone in the piles of money yet. Perhaps next time, then? At least funcom made back its investment (if you assume they sold every shipped box AND score a 1/3 retention).
I just don't see anything ugly in the pictures at all. It looks great fun to me. I rather hate realism....I can get all the realism I want by going to work. When I game, I want fantastical. I want something different...something I cannot see out my window. I see that crap all the time. I'm the kind of player that actually likes a good art direction....I love Cel-shading when done right. I loved the art in Legend of Mana, and play that game to this day.
If anything, people don't need to defend Mythic at all. YOU need to defend YOUR stance here. Most of us find you both trite and silly for even suggesting what you do. I defy you to prove to me that you are neither in a manner of my liking.
Mind you all, I havent played or seen warhammer in action so I don't have an opinion there. I am only saying I don't like the screenshots on the website, they just miss some 'feeling'. It's hard to explain.
If the screens on the website aren't the best they can maken then remove them and put up the best. But thats up for them to decide, it's their game
There are videos out on the web from the latest beta that shows how far the graphics have come along. Trust me, many will be surprised by how great this game looks.
Post some of the screenshots you are disappointed in so that we can explain the reasons behind those screens looking mediocre and outdated.
No need to post them here.. they are on the warhammer website. http://www.warhammeronline.com/screenshots/index.php
I like landscape screenshots so Ill use that as example. I am looking at the January 31 section, 3th picture (some trees with a church). I find that a very ugly screen for example.
What is ugly about these..
img246.imageshack.us/img246/4230/noneshallpassvt0.jpg
img181.imageshack.us/img181/5548/warbeta016tz4.jpg
img181.imageshack.us/img181/7799/mehuge027choppaslf8.jpg
img246.imageshack.us/img246/8095/hongkongphooey053praag2ez5.jpg
Lets get something straight...WAR does not have the same grathics as LOTR.. WAR does not have the same grathics as AOCrap game play man.
WAR has good grathic which are better than WOW and allow for mass rvr game-play...you know, this sort of thing www.youtube.com/watch
Best thing you can do is stick with lotr/AOCrap game play man.. where the grathics are very good.
You wont be missed by the millions of other players that will be enjoying the game.
Post some of the screenshots you are disappointed in so that we can explain the reasons behind those screens looking mediocre and outdated.
No need to post them here.. they are on the warhammer website. http://www.warhammeronline.com/screenshots/index.php
I like landscape screenshots so Ill use that as example. I am looking at the January 31 section, 3th picture (some trees with a church). I find that a very ugly screen for example.
What is ugly about these..
img246.imageshack.us/img246/4230/noneshallpassvt0.jpg
img181.imageshack.us/img181/5548/warbeta016tz4.jpg
img181.imageshack.us/img181/7799/mehuge027choppaslf8.jpg
img246.imageshack.us/img246/8095/hongkongphooey053praag2ez5.jpg
Lets get something straight...WAR does not have the same grathics as LOTR.. WAR does not have the same grathics as AOCrap game play man.
WAR has good grathic which are better than WOW and allow for mass rvr game-play...you know, this sort of thing www.youtube.com/watch
Best thing you can do is stick with lotr/AOCrap game play man.. where the grathics are very good.
You wont be missed by the millions of other players that will be enjoying the game.
did anyone see the video of the first keep attack? do you really want that in war?
Yeah lets get super graphics like from those new single player PS3-Xbox360 games! I mean dropping to 1 FPS when 5 people gather around and cast spells will be awesome!
NO amount of current techonology will allow you to run High rez, High Poly count, games with MASSIVE amounts of people around. You are naive and looking at a single person game thinking that it can be an MMO. Sorry but it doesn't work that way. In an MMO your computer needs to handle a ludicris amount of information at any given second and on top of that the more people that are on the screen fighting the worse it gets.
I know the next argument of what about FPS's. Well they have a lot less to worry about as far as computing goes. Weapon load out, character customization(if there is any), and small maps compared to entire worlds. In mmo's they have the whole world to worry about, character customization(like 10 peieces of gear, stats, spells, career mastery, etc). I am sure that an "mmo" could produce a Scenario that would give you 5 basic characters and 4-5 different spells that could run on ultra graphics settings but it wouldn 't be that fun.
If this was a SINGLE player game I would complain about the graphics. Since it is an MMO I am thinking "Holy crap those are some pretty good graphics for an MMO that is meant for large scale PvP".
Beleive me when the time comes it wont be "the graphics are crap" it will be "My game is at 1 FPS I need to turn the graphics down".
Graphics are great, seriously wtf is ppl's problems? Go play oblivion already jeeze...
For the OPer and anyone else the screenshots are still out of date. The Graphics Question below is from Massively.com that tested WAR a few weeks ago.
The Graphics Question: Let's be frank for a moment. Some of the early Warhammer screenshots, even ones released as recently as last spring, were a bit dodgey. Washed out, extremely samey. The reason, we discovered during our visit, is that detailed lighting models were only added to the game fairly recently. The final lighting schema isn't even in the game yet, and each light source has to be placed into the game by hand. EA Mythic workstations all have a distributed computing program loaded onto them that assists that part of the team with running brute-force computations at night. The result is that almost no-one has seen what the game will really truly look like at launch ... but players have been forming opinions on everything released so far.
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I think the character models look great but the envrionments just look plain bad.
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Talking about SWG much?
Post some of the screenshots you are disappointed in so that we can explain the reasons behind those screens looking mediocre and outdated.
No need to post them here.. they are on the warhammer website. http://www.warhammeronline.com/screenshots/index.php
I like landscape screenshots so Ill use that as example. I am looking at the January 31 section, 3th picture (some trees with a church). I find that a very ugly screen for example.
What is ugly about these..
img246.imageshack.us/img246/4230/noneshallpassvt0.jpg
img181.imageshack.us/img181/5548/warbeta016tz4.jpg
img181.imageshack.us/img181/7799/mehuge027choppaslf8.jpg
img246.imageshack.us/img246/8095/hongkongphooey053praag2ez5.jpg
Lets get something straight...WAR does not have the same grathics as LOTR.. WAR does not have the same grathics as AOCrap game play man.
WAR has good grathic which are better than WOW and allow for mass rvr game-play...you know, this sort of thing www.youtube.com/watch
Best thing you can do is stick with lotr/AOCrap game play man.. where the grathics are very good.
You wont be missed by the millions of other players that will be enjoying the game.
did anyone see the video of the first keep attack? do you really want that in war?
Are you talking about the Aocrap game play man.. vid?
Yes, they do not look very good right now. We will just have to wait for them to switch from low system settings to medium or high. I suspect everything will fall into place and look great on higher settings.
The low res textures are not very tasty, but hey..... after they test gameplay animations/graphics are next.
STOP WHINING!
What exactly is wrong with the graphics? I'll admit I've seen not very good looking ones and then some great ones (guess comp specs have nothing to do with that?). Just go look at videos that aren't on youtube, becuase youtube has awful quality. Try vimeo or something. Graphics look fine to me.
Okay, I think the graphics look fine... Even the ones Mythic is posting on their site. IMO, I'd prefer if they didn't use over-the-top graphics because for a game that's emphasis is on major PvP battles, graphics like that would drag the game badly. Maybe it's just me, but I think more cartoony graphics like that of TF2 are more fitting for a game like WAR.
Always change your signature.
Well they do fit the IP, but as someone who is testing the game, i can't seem to find many cartoony aspects at all. I hope i'm not saying too much, but the game is very dark, and I don't mean contrast. And that darkness fits the games storyline completly. If the game was all cartoony with bright collors and vibrance like WoW, well it wouldn't be WAR? It wouldn't be a war torn land where the forces of evil are trying to take over the world.
Come to think of it, how can a game called Warcraft be all bubbley and cutesy?
Totally agree but understand this is not the 1990's anymore. Blizzard was was able to get away with it because expectations were low. Now that the gaming expectations are much higher people don't settle for less anymore either. Unless they delay the release I think what we are seeing is what people are getting graphics and gameplay wise. Wether people feel it is good or not it is up to them to decide.
I disagree... in trying to make the game look more 'real' they are in fact making it more ugly. Blizzard is one of the few companies who understands this. Just look at most WoW screens, they just look great... alive...
Why do you think retro gaming is growing? Great gameplay
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you aren't another WoW fanboy stirring up shit because a good game that isn't made by Blizzard is coming out.
WoWs graphics are decent at best.
The thing that cracks me up about the whole graphics debate is that people keep forgetting that their computers have limits. Age of Conan has become a shining example of how graphics can both make or break a game. Yeah, it's graphics are pretty...and people's computers are melting under the strain. All the zoning and population restrictions you see in the game are there because of the graphics. AoC would have been fine as a single player game or small group, but in an MMO setting they bit off far more than they could chew, and it's ruining the game for a lot of people.
WAR is going to be looking at HUGE battles, massive assaults on keeps and capital cities. Mythic knows better than to overdo it on graphics because of its experiences with DAoC. The graphics have improved a lot over the last few months but they're never going to look like AoC's because Mythic isn't being run by idiots.
That's not to say that WAR's graphics are going to suck, you just have to look for more recent videos to see how things are progressing, for instance...
http://pc.ign.com/dor/objects/748723/warhammer-online-age-of-reckoning/videos/critical_hit_062008.html
For me, that's more than sufficient, because the bottom line with games is that the gameplay is far more important than the graphics. Pretty graphics draw a crowd but gameplay keeps them there.
All of the pics the public has seen are from beta or before. None of these have full lighting, and are not even close to high settings.
[quote]
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you aren't another WoW fanboy stirring up shit because a good game that isn't made by Blizzard is coming out.
WoWs graphics are decent at best.[/quote]
I did play WoW for 2 years and am playing EVE for a year now. And no, I aint no WoW fanboy but I do find the Blizzard style great (except for the WoW gameplay!).
What I don't understand why don't they remove the ugly screens and replace them with newer versions? Maybe even place a new version of the same screenshot with the old screenshot so people can see the progress.
For me, just like alot of others who aren't playing the beta, it's the information placed on the website that makes me decide to play or not. Placing and keeping, absolute screenshots they are giving me a wrong impression.
Because they are showing us the progression of things...
Instead of seeing ugly screenshots, why not see the improvements that have been made and stop being so fraking negative... They won't remove old screenshots for comparison reasons
"Instead of seeing ugly screenshots, why not see the improvements that have been made and stop being so fraking negative..."
Problem is, they aren't showing progress.. I mean.. I was looking at the latest pics and find them ugly... You can call it negative, but don't forget it's my money they want and for now I don't find it worth my money (based on those pics).