i have more respect for conan because they tried something different. Instead of click and watch they wanted you to actually feel like your contributing to the fight by choosing which direction you swing at. Also with spellweaving how doing linking spells up can create more powerful spells. Warhammer to me just said hey see this game warcraft? lets look exactly like it and improve on it without adding anything new to the genre. Oh yea lets be more about pvp to. Whats new in it besides collision detection? i have nothing wrong with the game its just that in order to do better you have to implement new ideas to the genre. otherwise people will still be crying about grinding and the same ol crap we all love to hear. yea i heard about the tier stuff and how the better your side does it can take over more and raid the capital of the other side or whatever. that is cool the thing is it will be the same thing over and over again once you think about it.
So you admit that Warhammer is improving on current mmo systems and instead of focusing on PvE they are focusing on PvP. Guess what? THAT MAKES THEM DIFFERENT. If something is different it cannot be a clone. Owning your own argument ftw! When September comes around make sure you ask your teacher about logic and how to apply it. Every car has 4 wheels, an engine, steering wheel, gas pedal, and breaks by your logic the fact that they come in different shapes, sizes, styles, and power output doesn't matter because they are all clones.
So you can chain different spells in Conan to create more powerful spells? Well in Warhammer you can use abilities that change based on previous abilities you use. Believe the video they released aobut the swordmaster has this in it. If you put up your debuff then use a certain attack it can change the damage of that attack from say melee to spell damage. Thus making it a tactical ability since if you are fighting another tank melee might not be the best attack but magic will eat through them. DPS casters have the ability to use certain spells that increase their damage/crit at the risk of blowing themselves up. Combo attacks are not that new.
As far as your last argument. CS has been the same for years yet people still play it. Why? The maps might be the same but every game plays out differently. PvP is never static. City raids won't happen every day and you certainly won't take the city every time you try. Go take some music lessons and figure out why there are so few notes but millions of different songs.
/agreed...Nice Post my friend
Im also going to have to agree with you, its like one of my friends band members who said "All music is the same, its just at different tempos and different note progressions, but basically a rock song is no different from a death metal song"
People just dont seem to see the simple logic behind these things.
most of that stuff has already been done. alot by conan actually and conan did come out first. if you want to get into detail conan brought new combat, player made cities and sieging them, realistic jumping not bunnyhoping, being m rated, GOOD graphics not cartoony (im talking in the mmo genre) see my list isnt huge cause the rest has already been done but at least its true. well i heard another game had player made cities but its probably one of the less popular ones so it doesnt matter.
sorry if i seem to attack you but i had a bad day at work today and still have to work more so itll probably get worse just had to do something to occupy myself during lunch break.
I'm starting to find all the "WoW Clone" posts hilarious. It gets old, but i htink im gonna start making dumby accounts just to make more "WoW Clone" posts.
Christopher Walken: I've got a fever and the only remedy is "MORE WOW CLONE"!
If you don't like the topic of discussion here for whatever reason, then feel free to not post in the topic, but the rules of flaming and topic hijacking still apply. Keep the discussion on topic, and keep the discussions as discussions, not mudslinging sessions. I really don't like locking threads, but I will if I have to.
Behave, please. If you don't like the topic of discussion here for whatever reason, then feel free to not post in the topic, but the rules of flaming and topic hijacking still apply. Keep the discussion on topic, and keep the discussions as discussions, not mudslinging sessions. I really don't like locking threads, but I will if I have to. Gunhamster can stay because he's adorable. Proceed.
Lol! Give us that Gunhamster back!
I managed to save it for later enjoyment but imo the newcomers should also get a chance to appreciate the sheer awesomeness of its sinister cuteness!
Originally posted by ASmith84 most of that stuff has already been done. alot by conan actually and conan did come out first. if you want to get into detail conan brought new combat, player made cities and sieging them, realistic jumping not bunnyhoping, being m rated, GOOD graphics not cartoony (im talking in the mmo genre) see my list isnt huge cause the rest has already been done but at least its true. well i heard another game had player made cities but its probably one of the less popular ones so it doesnt matter. sorry if i seem to attack you but i had a bad day at work today and still have to work more so itll probably get worse just had to do something to occupy myself during lunch break.
Keep sieges were done by DAOC (Mythic), player built cities and sieges were done by Shadowbane...dodging in combat was done by DDO....
most of that stuff has already been done. alot by conan actually and conan did come out first. if you want to get into detail conan brought new combat (you mean the combat they stole from Oblivion and a failed mmo?), player made cities and sieging them (ah yes player cities & seiges..you mean Shadowbane...except Shadowbane's works and you can do it with far more than 48vs48 people!), realistic jumping not bunnyhoping (dont forget the dancing mini game! You know it actually works unlike the important aspects of the game), being m rated, GOOD graphics not cartoony (im talking in the mmo genre) see my list isnt huge cause the rest has already been done but at least its true. well i heard another game had player made cities but its probably one of the less popular ones so it doesnt matter. You mean those awsomely good graphics were people's limbs disappear at random, people can walk through walls and a host of other broken problems DUE to graphics .. they may of planned big but they couldn't pull off. Sometimes going big is a BAD idea in the mmo industry and Funcom has proved it once again..as if AO wasn't a big enough disaster. You'd think they'd learn or atleast went to school for learning how to design & implement by now..but it seems they haven't. sorry if i seem to attack you but i had a bad day at work today and still have to work more so itll probably get worse just had to do something to occupy myself during lunch break.
ASmith you make absolutely no sense. AoC brought absoltely nothing NEW to the table it didn't even INNOVATE..at all...infact many systems are completely WORSE than the way previous games have done it.
There's no true guild alliancing, there's no guild levels or even guild banners that actually have USE in a PvP battle, there's no city leveling system..atleast not on the level of WAR's where the level actually determines a whole lot more than just stupid seigablility (atleast WARs seiging works and they used Beta Testers to Test it).
There's no Achievenment system or tactical system, there's no working siege weapons, there's a HUGE limit on how many can siege and a LIMIT ON when things are siegable ...sorry AoC took some good ideas Stepped them backwards and totally fubar'd it all to hell.
There's no realm control fighting, their PvP system is a complete JOKE ... hell the PvP leveling game isnt' even in! Hell they made their PvP basically WoW's PvP with a mini leveling system added on..thats IT and its not even a GOOD system!
Heck their new "policing" system for the PvP ganking problems..is actually a really really bad version of the original UO system that FAILED to stop ganking. Infact theirs will make ganking worse..I feel sorry for the lvl 80s that are going to get constantly attacked by low levels.
Shadowbane & WoW actually did what AoC did ...way better. Which is really freaking sad considering the issues WoW has thanks to its gear focus. AoC is basically a big ME ME ME Guild fiesta....WAR is atleast a co op game where it actually HELPS to work with your realm even if you hate some of the asstards on your team.
The only thing new they did was make a pretty mmo game with 20 levels of solo play that you HAVE to do EVERY time you make a new character. Oh and that super linear awsome leveling....I mean..its more linear than Everquest 1 how lame is that?!? I'll be enjoying leveling up my toon mostly through PvP and maybe a lil bit of PvE to enjoy the PQ & Dungeon system while AoC players have to PVE their way to the top through the same quests EVERY time. While they have to wait till lvl 40 to learn resource gathering and crafting, they have to be level 20 to PvP, they have to be lvl 80 to enjoy the bigger aspects of the game (thank god WAR has PvP & Sieging pretty much from the START of the game).
When it comes right down to it AoC would of been an awsome single player RPG game with some online playability.
A 40k mmo has already been announced and is in the works, Dawn of War 2 will fill in just fine for strategy types, and WAR is as much a WoW clone as WoW is an EQ clone. As a friend often likes to say, the only things WAR and WoW have in common is that they're both mmorpg's and they're both based on Warhammer.
oblivion isnt an mmo. I guess pong must be the original of everything since it was the first game ever right? we all ripped off everything off of pong huh? pong after all was the first to put something on the screen you can control. i was talking about the mmo genre.
tell me what is the point of hating a computer game? it is like hating a rock. no matter what you do it will still be a rock on this earth. crush it into little pieces if you want but that does not do anything. I dont know why you all are all hating on conan but its just a game chill out.
now before you all go but your hating on warhammer im not. all i am saying is that warhammer does not have that one thing that makes it unique to me (keywords right there to me). all it looks like TO ME is warcraft upgraded. you have your opinions and i have mine. Tell me your opinions but i dont want to read all your whining about a computer game cause that is very childish.
just to be a pain here, but pong wasnt the first, if i remember correctly the odyssey had a game where pong got its idea from called table tenish , prty much two blocks hitting a circle.
Actually it was Spacewar done in 1962 for PDP-1 at MIT...
Tennis for two was made in 1958 but it was not really a computer game since it used discrete analog hardware rather than a computer program to run. It was a video game, but not a computer game however strange that might seem to us today.
oblivion isnt an mmo. I guess pong must be the original of everything since it was the first game ever right? we all ripped off everything off of pong huh? pong after all was the first to put something on the screen you can control. i was talking about the mmo genre. tell me what is the point of hating a computer game? it is like hating a rock. no matter what you do it will still be a rock on this earth. crush it into little pieces if you want but that does not do anything. I dont know why you all are all hating on conan but its just a game chill out. now before you all go but your hating on warhammer im not. all i am saying is that warhammer does not have that one thing that makes it unique to me (keywords right there to me). all it looks like TO ME is warcraft upgraded. you have your opinions and i have mine. Tell me your opinions but i dont want to read all your whining about a computer game cause that is very childish.
Don't worry, all everyone is trying to do is state their opinion that your opinion is misinformed.
I think maybe a good analogy would be to say that Poker and Solitaire are the same. Same cards...totally different game.
tell me what is the point of hating a computer game? it is like hating a rock. no matter what you do it will still be a rock on this earth. crush it into little pieces if you want but that does not do anything. I dont know why you all are all hating on conan but its just a game chill out. now before you all go but your hating on warhammer im not. all i am saying is that warhammer does not have that one thing that makes it unique to me (keywords right there to me). all it looks like TO ME is warcraft upgraded. you have your opinions and i have mine. Tell me your opinions but i dont want to read all your whining about a computer game cause that is very childish.
Its not that people hate AoC as such.. just the commercial ethics of Funcom. I cannot comment on AoC. I refused to play it from launch because of funcom's AO many years ago. It appears as if they havent learnt. So its probably more true to say people hate Funcom.
Whats the point in that? Well, hopefully companies learn that they cant sell us any rubbish with good PR. (Presuming of course the haters are right).
As to WAR. Well you say it looks to you as if it's WoW upgraded. All people are saying is, you are not looking hard enough. You are taking a quick look at alpha footage and jumping to conclusions about what the whole game will be like.
World of Warcraft does not have RvR. The game was built with PvP as an afterthought. In WAR RvR is the core of the game. If you do not realise how fundamentally amazing this could be if they do it right, then you obviously did not go hunting on the frontiers in DAoC.
I wish people would stop saying it looks like World of Warcraft or an upgraded version or what else have you.
Warhammer was created around two decades before Warcraft was even thought of. The character models for in game, and everything they are putting into Warhammer comes from the tabletop game and games they've created before this one.
If anything, Warcraft copied Warhammer. I mean come on; Starcraft? WH40K is to Starcraft as Warhammer is to Warcraft.
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i guess this is the most recent footage of warhammer since its on the top on the website
looks pretty cool. It just like playing wow all over again. and you guys are getting mad at me for calling it a clone? THIS PROVES IT. it is the same wack at each other till ones dead. also the graphics are almost identical. if they truly were making this game before warhammer than they should of at least changed it up a little.
wheres the difference? seriously i see no difference now.
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/flash/2008_03_VotM.html i guess this is the most recent footage of warhammer since its on the top on the website looks pretty cool. It just like playing wow all over again. and you guys are getting mad at me for calling it a clone? THIS PROVES IT. it is the same wack at each other till ones dead. also the graphics are almost identical. if they truly were making this game before warhammer than they should of at least changed it up a little. wheres the difference? seriously i see no difference now.
Look man TO YOU it looks like WoW dont play it and dont keep trying to change peoples minds about it looking similar to WoW b/c at the end of the day most MMO's is hack and slash till someone is dead . In fact Oblivion is like that and even AOC is like that. The difference is the SOTRY and the IP and the feel. You see WoW, I and many others see Daoc or both or its unique feel. So just quit it already ive seen this thread for a week now so just leave us to our anticipated game ok?
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/flash/2008_03_VotM.html i guess this is the most recent footage of warhammer since its on the top on the website looks pretty cool. It just like playing wow all over again. and you guys are getting mad at me for calling it a clone? THIS PROVES IT. it is the same wack at each other till ones dead. also the graphics are almost identical. if they truly were making this game before warhammer than they should of at least changed it up a little. wheres the difference? seriously i see no difference now.
Yeah, and I guess World of Warcraft looks like Everquest II, which looks like Dark Age of Camelot, which looks like Ultima Online, which looks like Lineage.
You see where the fail is in that kind of logic? Every MMO resembles each other in SOME way.
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http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/flash/2008_03_VotM.html i guess this is the most recent footage of warhammer since its on the top on the website looks pretty cool. It just like playing wow all over again. and you guys are getting mad at me for calling it a clone? THIS PROVES IT. it is the same wack at each other till ones dead. also the graphics are almost identical. if they truly were making this game before warhammer than they should of at least changed it up a little. wheres the difference? seriously i see no difference now.
Oh dear...
WAR is a WoW clone because there are people whacking each other there till they're dead...
Man, you should just go away and change your nick or something. No really, I don't know if anyone can take any of your posts seriously after this little pearl of wisdom and insight...
Go play some racing game or maybe a nice puzzle because obviously the vast of majority of MMORPGs are WoW clones since they do involve whacking people till they're dead... and COD4 and QW:ET are WoW clones as well cause they've got minimap in top right (or thereabouts) and WASD movement. Man.... Don't make it any worse, I beg you.
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/flash/2008_03_VotM.html i guess this is the most recent footage of warhammer since its on the top on the website looks pretty cool. It just like playing wow all over again. and you guys are getting mad at me for calling it a clone? THIS PROVES IT. it is the same wack at each other till ones dead. also the graphics are almost identical. if they truly were making this game before warhammer than they should of at least changed it up a little. wheres the difference? seriously i see no difference now.
Oh dear...
WAR is a WoW clone because there are people whacking each other there till they're dead...
Man, you should just go away and change your nick or something. No really, I don't know if anyone can take any of your posts seriously after this little pearl of wisdom and insight...
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/flash/2008_03_VotM.html i guess this is the most recent footage of warhammer since its on the top on the website looks pretty cool. It just like playing wow all over again. and you guys are getting mad at me for calling it a clone? THIS PROVES IT. it is the same wack at each other till ones dead. also the graphics are almost identical. if they truly were making this game before warhammer than they should of at least changed it up a little. wheres the difference? seriously i see no difference now.
Oh dear...
WAR is a WoW clone because there are people whacking each other there till they're dead...
Man, you should just go away and change your nick or something. No really, I don't know if anyone can take any of your posts seriously after this little pearl of wisdom and insight...
The thing is they both have the same visual style these models look like the tabletop models. The modesl are big and bulky looking in fact I think this is about the only way they could get WAR to look. I mean its a fantasy game and they have certain stuff in there lore so what change up the lore so it doesn't compare at all with WOW? War is a lot older IP and this is there look. Would you rather it look like AOC? I mean the stuff isn't meant to look that way. So check this out:
Maby you should wait around for the mmo where you talk people to death or maby tickle them into submission.
Every mmo out there does the same, hit it till dead thing. Even AOC does this, just because they added the swing thing , your still hacking away untill it dies, you just have an extra button to push.
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So you admit that Warhammer is improving on current mmo systems and instead of focusing on PvE they are focusing on PvP. Guess what? THAT MAKES THEM DIFFERENT. If something is different it cannot be a clone. Owning your own argument ftw! When September comes around make sure you ask your teacher about logic and how to apply it. Every car has 4 wheels, an engine, steering wheel, gas pedal, and breaks by your logic the fact that they come in different shapes, sizes, styles, and power output doesn't matter because they are all clones.
So you can chain different spells in Conan to create more powerful spells? Well in Warhammer you can use abilities that change based on previous abilities you use. Believe the video they released aobut the swordmaster has this in it. If you put up your debuff then use a certain attack it can change the damage of that attack from say melee to spell damage. Thus making it a tactical ability since if you are fighting another tank melee might not be the best attack but magic will eat through them. DPS casters have the ability to use certain spells that increase their damage/crit at the risk of blowing themselves up. Combo attacks are not that new.
As far as your last argument. CS has been the same for years yet people still play it. Why? The maps might be the same but every game plays out differently. PvP is never static. City raids won't happen every day and you certainly won't take the city every time you try. Go take some music lessons and figure out why there are so few notes but millions of different songs.
/agreed...Nice Post my friend
Im also going to have to agree with you, its like one of my friends band members who said "All music is the same, its just at different tempos and different note progressions, but basically a rock song is no different from a death metal song"
People just dont seem to see the simple logic behind these things.
-Jive
most of that stuff has already been done. alot by conan actually and conan did come out first. if you want to get into detail conan brought new combat, player made cities and sieging them, realistic jumping not bunnyhoping, being m rated, GOOD graphics not cartoony (im talking in the mmo genre) see my list isnt huge cause the rest has already been done but at least its true. well i heard another game had player made cities but its probably one of the less popular ones so it doesnt matter.
sorry if i seem to attack you but i had a bad day at work today and still have to work more so itll probably get worse just had to do something to occupy myself during lunch break.
I'm starting to find all the "WoW Clone" posts hilarious. It gets old, but i htink im gonna start making dumby accounts just to make more "WoW Clone" posts.
Christopher Walken: I've got a fever and the only remedy is "MORE WOW CLONE"!
Behave, please.
If you don't like the topic of discussion here for whatever reason, then feel free to not post in the topic, but the rules of flaming and topic hijacking still apply. Keep the discussion on topic, and keep the discussions as discussions, not mudslinging sessions. I really don't like locking threads, but I will if I have to.
Gunhamster can stay because he's adorable.
Proceed.
Lol! Give us that Gunhamster back!
I managed to save it for later enjoyment but imo the newcomers should also get a chance to appreciate the sheer awesomeness of its sinister cuteness!
Keep sieges were done by DAOC (Mythic), player built cities and sieges were done by Shadowbane...dodging in combat was done by DDO....
Oh..they have boobs.
The pumpkin was funny. Another casualty in the <modedit> war on terrorism.
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well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you?
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/218865/page/8
ASmith you make absolutely no sense. AoC brought absoltely nothing NEW to the table it didn't even INNOVATE..at all...infact many systems are completely WORSE than the way previous games have done it.
There's no true guild alliancing, there's no guild levels or even guild banners that actually have USE in a PvP battle, there's no city leveling system..atleast not on the level of WAR's where the level actually determines a whole lot more than just stupid seigablility (atleast WARs seiging works and they used Beta Testers to Test it).
There's no Achievenment system or tactical system, there's no working siege weapons, there's a HUGE limit on how many can siege and a LIMIT ON when things are siegable ...sorry AoC took some good ideas Stepped them backwards and totally fubar'd it all to hell.
There's no realm control fighting, their PvP system is a complete JOKE ... hell the PvP leveling game isnt' even in! Hell they made their PvP basically WoW's PvP with a mini leveling system added on..thats IT and its not even a GOOD system!
Heck their new "policing" system for the PvP ganking problems..is actually a really really bad version of the original UO system that FAILED to stop ganking. Infact theirs will make ganking worse..I feel sorry for the lvl 80s that are going to get constantly attacked by low levels.
Shadowbane & WoW actually did what AoC did ...way better. Which is really freaking sad considering the issues WoW has thanks to its gear focus. AoC is basically a big ME ME ME Guild fiesta....WAR is atleast a co op game where it actually HELPS to work with your realm even if you hate some of the asstards on your team.
The only thing new they did was make a pretty mmo game with 20 levels of solo play that you HAVE to do EVERY time you make a new character. Oh and that super linear awsome leveling....I mean..its more linear than Everquest 1 how lame is that?!? I'll be enjoying leveling up my toon mostly through PvP and maybe a lil bit of PvE to enjoy the PQ & Dungeon system while AoC players have to PVE their way to the top through the same quests EVERY time. While they have to wait till lvl 40 to learn resource gathering and crafting, they have to be level 20 to PvP, they have to be lvl 80 to enjoy the bigger aspects of the game (thank god WAR has PvP & Sieging pretty much from the START of the game).
When it comes right down to it AoC would of been an awsome single player RPG game with some online playability.
Okay, enough /derailment. The thread is probably done anyhow. Long live Gunhampster!
A 40k mmo has already been announced and is in the works, Dawn of War 2 will fill in just fine for strategy types, and WAR is as much a WoW clone as WoW is an EQ clone. As a friend often likes to say, the only things WAR and WoW have in common is that they're both mmorpg's and they're both based on Warhammer.
oblivion isnt an mmo. I guess pong must be the original of everything since it was the first game ever right? we all ripped off everything off of pong huh? pong after all was the first to put something on the screen you can control. i was talking about the mmo genre.
tell me what is the point of hating a computer game? it is like hating a rock. no matter what you do it will still be a rock on this earth. crush it into little pieces if you want but that does not do anything. I dont know why you all are all hating on conan but its just a game chill out.
now before you all go but your hating on warhammer im not. all i am saying is that warhammer does not have that one thing that makes it unique to me (keywords right there to me). all it looks like TO ME is warcraft upgraded. you have your opinions and i have mine. Tell me your opinions but i dont want to read all your whining about a computer game cause that is very childish.
just to be a pain here, but pong wasnt the first, if i remember correctly the odyssey had a game where pong got its idea from called table tenish , prty much two blocks hitting a circle.
Actually it was Spacewar done in 1962 for PDP-1 at MIT...
Tennis for two was made in 1958 but it was not really a computer game since it used discrete analog hardware rather than a computer program to run. It was a video game, but not a computer game however strange that might seem to us today.
Pong is 1972, thats ten years after Spacewar.
Don't worry, all everyone is trying to do is state their opinion that your opinion is misinformed.
I think maybe a good analogy would be to say that Poker and Solitaire are the same. Same cards...totally different game.
Its not that people hate AoC as such.. just the commercial ethics of Funcom. I cannot comment on AoC. I refused to play it from launch because of funcom's AO many years ago. It appears as if they havent learnt. So its probably more true to say people hate Funcom.
Whats the point in that? Well, hopefully companies learn that they cant sell us any rubbish with good PR. (Presuming of course the haters are right).
As to WAR. Well you say it looks to you as if it's WoW upgraded. All people are saying is, you are not looking hard enough. You are taking a quick look at alpha footage and jumping to conclusions about what the whole game will be like.
World of Warcraft does not have RvR. The game was built with PvP as an afterthought. In WAR RvR is the core of the game. If you do not realise how fundamentally amazing this could be if they do it right, then you obviously did not go hunting on the frontiers in DAoC.
I wish people would stop saying it looks like World of Warcraft or an upgraded version or what else have you.
Warhammer was created around two decades before Warcraft was even thought of. The character models for in game, and everything they are putting into Warhammer comes from the tabletop game and games they've created before this one.
If anything, Warcraft copied Warhammer. I mean come on; Starcraft? WH40K is to Starcraft as Warhammer is to Warcraft.
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Currently Waiting For: Nothing, found my addiction for awhile
Currently Playing: Warhammer Online - Oblivion, Warrior Priest, Averheim; Team Fortress 2
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/flash/2008_03_VotM.html
i guess this is the most recent footage of warhammer since its on the top on the website
looks pretty cool. It just like playing wow all over again. and you guys are getting mad at me for calling it a clone? THIS PROVES IT. it is the same wack at each other till ones dead. also the graphics are almost identical. if they truly were making this game before warhammer than they should of at least changed it up a little.
wheres the difference? seriously i see no difference now.
Look man TO YOU it looks like WoW dont play it and dont keep trying to change peoples minds about it looking similar to WoW b/c at the end of the day most MMO's is hack and slash till someone is dead . In fact Oblivion is like that and even AOC is like that. The difference is the SOTRY and the IP and the feel. You see WoW, I and many others see Daoc or both or its unique feel. So just quit it already ive seen this thread for a week now so just leave us to our anticipated game ok?
Yeah, and I guess World of Warcraft looks like Everquest II, which looks like Dark Age of Camelot, which looks like Ultima Online, which looks like Lineage.
You see where the fail is in that kind of logic? Every MMO resembles each other in SOME way.
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Currently Waiting For: Nothing, found my addiction for awhile
Currently Playing: Warhammer Online - Oblivion, Warrior Priest, Averheim; Team Fortress 2
Oh dear...
WAR is a WoW clone because there are people whacking each other there till they're dead...
Man, you should just go away and change your nick or something. No really, I don't know if anyone can take any of your posts seriously after this little pearl of wisdom and insight...
Go play some racing game or maybe a nice puzzle because obviously the vast of majority of MMORPGs are WoW clones since they do involve whacking people till they're dead... and COD4 and QW:ET are WoW clones as well cause they've got minimap in top right (or thereabouts) and WASD movement. Man.... Don't make it any worse, I beg you.
Oh dear...
WAR is a WoW clone because there are people whacking each other there till they're dead...
Man, you should just go away and change your nick or something. No really, I don't know if anyone can take any of your posts seriously after this little pearl of wisdom and insight...
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Oh dear...
WAR is a WoW clone because there are people whacking each other there till they're dead...
Man, you should just go away and change your nick or something. No really, I don't know if anyone can take any of your posts seriously after this little pearl of wisdom and insight...
The thing is they both have the same visual style these models look like the tabletop models. The modesl are big and bulky looking in fact I think this is about the only way they could get WAR to look. I mean its a fantasy game and they have certain stuff in there lore so what change up the lore so it doesn't compare at all with WOW? War is a lot older IP and this is there look. Would you rather it look like AOC? I mean the stuff isn't meant to look that way. So check this out:
Figure:
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Game:
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So imo it looks like it is supposed to.
Its the same wack and slash till dead??
Maby you should wait around for the mmo where you talk people to death or maby tickle them into submission.
Every mmo out there does the same, hit it till dead thing. Even AOC does this, just because they added the swing thing , your still hacking away untill it dies, you just have an extra button to push.
Hmm, me thinks it's time to /derail the thread again.
This is like beating the horse after it has been turned into glue...