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Why do the haters lie?
ulberon
Member Posts: 198
Here is the updated link, guess the hater failed to read the entire post or doesn't care:
wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Epidemic-Obesity/Age-of-Conan-Poised-to-Dominate-WoW/
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edit: i guess i should add some more discussion.
The other article was from Jun 16, two days before that one. Any sensible gamer would know that the Jun 16 article was pure BS, and the Jun 18 article was egg on his face. Either way, this guy was just some blogger with no credibility, and it's old news already.
Jun 16: http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Epidemic-Obesity/Age-of-Conan-Desperate-for-Subscribers/
Jun 18: http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Epidemic-Obesity/Age-of-Conan-Poised-to-Dominate-WoW/
Developers Respond Faster in Age of Conan
We've all gotten used to the Blizzard patch situation by now. In World of Warcraft, we have months of buildup between patches as developers work on content that most of us never see, or balance changes and bugfixes that don't seem to impact anything for the better. Funcom's developers, on the other hand, seem very committed to addressing the needs of the playerbase as quickly as possible. We have seen several patches since launch, and continue to see multiple patches within the same week from Funcom; truly a breath of fresh air! Many have critcized Blizzard for milking their "cash cow" and ignoring customers -- it seems maybe a higher standard of service really is possible!
LOL
You forgot something about Blizzard though. Like any of the blizzard game, they won't anything until it is damn well ready. More importantly, they released the game with "EVERYTHING" they promise to avalible for the player base. PvP worked (although not perfectly balance and have few bug), PvE dungeon plenty, mostly bug free quest, and crafting implemented and functional. Although not perfect, most of the problem with WoW early on have to do more with the server than the game itself. The problem with so many people getting angry at Funcom is because like vanguard, they release a game that still play like beta and lying through there teeth about it just to sell more copy.
Although I must concede that most company don't that the luxury of unlimited budget and time like blizzard do.
LIE!!
There was NO battleground!
And I know there was more... just dont remember cause I quit it after 2 weeks... but the forums were as bad as any other... and if the server downtimes they had is considered as "nothing" than Age of Conan had a GOD-LIKE release... lol
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Battleground was not promised on the Initial WoW release...
You forgot something about Blizzard though. Like any of the blizzard game, they won't anything until it is damn well ready. More importantly, they released the game with "EVERYTHING" they promise to avalible for the player base. PvP worked (although not perfectly balance and have few bug), PvE dungeon plenty, mostly bug free quest, and crafting implemented and functional. Although not perfect, most of the problem with WoW early on have to do more with the server than the game itself. The problem with so many people getting angry at Funcom is because like vanguard, they release a game that still play like beta and lying through there teeth about it just to sell more copy.
Although I must concede that most company don't that the luxury of unlimited budget and time like blizzard do.
Yet we saw the same type of complaints coming shortly after WOW was release'd with WOW:
XXX.X. gave it a3:
Little to almost no support from the Game masters "im sorry we cant do that" is most often their response and the constant under cutting of players who are good at the game. There are to many ways to get welfair gear. As well the world pvp since the games launch has been cut dramatically with the addition of guards who you are helpless to do little more then 1% of damage to. All in all its not worth it the Epic grind fest to 70 soon to be 80 if you want to give it a try buy a level 70 account for 100 dollars. the 10 day(play time) grind fest will drive u mad. as well the addition of resilience has allowed players with no skill to make their way up the ranks clearly where they shouldn't be.
XXX.X. gave it a2:
This game gets a 2 from me. Graphics: 5 (Lame but yet stylistic). Gameplay: 1 Same old crap that got boring in Ultima Online. Detail 9 The game is very detailed and vast i give it that. -8 For not being immersive at all though you don't feel included in the storyline what so ever - Not like there is one really anyway. Community: 2 Some good people in there but mostly full of hunched teenagers that spend countless hours doing the same chores. It's all gear based. TBC imo ruined it, lots of classes were dumbed down and then buffed needlessly. Addiction, even though i found this game utter sh*te i have many friends who are addicted to this. Beware!
XXX.X. gave it a2:
Probably one of the worst MMO's I have ever played. The whole boring journey to get to 70 is the same thing over and over with overused models and skinned items (usually just a difference in color). The quests are dull even at 70 with going out and killing a certain amount of monsters then coming back. Although some of the last quests are quite fun but there are only 2-3 of them that actually are. The only time I had excitement was when I hit 70, which only lasted about 5 minutes. To level you must grind, do horrible quests that will want to make you kill yourself, or instances with either 10 year olds (Alliance) or people that need to get jobs and move out of their parent's houses (Horde). Upon getting to 70 you waste your life doing either raiding or PvP. Raiding first of all is fun the first time but then gets repetitive by the 10th time you do it. PvP requires you to wait 10 minutes to get in a battle ground and just end up losing or Arena which is fun but can be very frustrating and annoying. Getting one piece of gear usually takes a whole 1-2 days of sitting in front of a computer. The point of doing these is to get better gear to do better in PvP or raiding. But the only point to PvP or Raid is to get better gear... Didn't make much sense to me. This gear is fun at first but then you realize you wasted your time when you find out the next expansion is coming out and it will be worthless. If that isn't bad enough you must get 10 more levels with the same quests and poorly skinned models as before. People say omg it's the best game ever!11! but that's just because they don't want to admit they wasted their life and lost everything they had before. Don't waste your time or money, which you must give up a lot of for this game.
XXX.X.gave it a4:
I being quite the geek and nerd, believe this game is unbelievably overrated. Sure, I love online MMORPG's - but WOW is just one of those games that leave you annoyed and irritated knowing its one of the top PC games; and yet no one you know actually enjoys it [Except for people you meet online]. I tried it, I could not get into it - They say the graphics are wonderful ; But I think they had no idea what they were trying to make, seeing all the ridiculous objects and characters in this game. After playing this game, I ended up crying every night for 4 weeks straight, taking therapy after a coma, waking up only to suffer a stroke of people over using the word Noob over and over as poor desperate insults... Paying for this game is like praying for a god you know doesn't exists...
XXX.X.gave it a0:
BORING.. levelling up is very time consuming, beginning quests can be overwhelming.. no payoff for team building.. cost$ is not worth the effort and replayablilty is dull...no mission markers or real assistance that could be helpful. Play Guild Wars. It's free and wants you to succeed/fail at times... but never overwhelms you but challenges you... WOW does not challenge.. it frustrates and leaves you feeling empty in gaming and wallet. AVOID THIS GAME!!!
XXX.X. gave it a4:
I have to say that of all RPGs out there, this may possibly be the one I hate the most. It seems to me that it takes the mindless droning of a sub-teenager to be able to sit glued to your computer screen repetitively killing the same monster over and over for hours on end to level up.... once. Also, the game's lack of depth in terms of difficulty and what I call 'intelligence requirements' are rather low, resulting in an experience that feels degrading. I must admit however, that the game has a somewhat decent look to it, and the graphics have a nice touch to them, but are still sub-par in the current world of gaming. Overall, I did not enjoy my experience with this game. http://www.metacritic.com/games/usercomments.jsp?id_string=3314:vkVWHyirty0gWQEmsnYLHA**
Yes it had allot of positive comments aswell, but overall to look a it with perspective we see the same type of individuals who complain about just anything with games in this genre.
And my opinion about WOW is far from those sad comment i just copy/paste'd above, i have played the game and enjoyed it due to it being a fun game, after a year i simlpy had enough fun with it and moved on to others things/games.
Hilarious, AoC's going to beat WoW. Dream on, it is never going to happen with AoC.
i simply can not stand that people have to lie. people who lie can never be trusted. never be a good friend, a trustwhorty companion or someone u can relie upon - EVER. A lier will always lie, sometime under impresson of speaking truth, but u can never trust a lier. i had many bad episode with liers and one thing i learnt is that you will never hear any sort of truth form them. sad but true, liers lie
Okay, but everyone lies at least once in their life. i guarantee you have lied before, maybe it was to just get out of trouble, to make someone feel better when their in a bad condition, or to scam someone out of money; none-the-less you have lied as well.
Now you are basicly your saying that you are also a lier, you always lie, you cant be trusted, and you will never be a good friend. Thus we shouldn't even trust your post b/c it could be just another lie.
... see what happens when you don't think about what your typing?
Protip: If someone does NOT list at least one positive and one negative about the game they are critiquing, its best to ignore the post.
Battlegrounds were in the game manual for WOW - at release
EQ2 fan sites
all those comments you posted were not from WOW at release - most were posted after the expansion
Metacritic doesnt date their reader comments, but it does store them in sequence
GuildWars launched 6 months after WOW
WOW launched with only 60 levels
EQ2 fan sites
all those comments you posted were not from WOW at release - most were posted after the expansion
Metacritic doesnt date their reader comments, but it does store them in sequence
GuildWars launched 6 months after WOW
WOW launched with only 60 levels
His/Her point still stands in the end , Every MMO launch has the same aggravation and disappointment shine through on it's forums . Even the expansions receive the same level of criticism , As shown above.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I disagree in regards to WOW
because *I* was one of the naysayers saying that WOW was good game but that EQ2 had a better launch
the majority of forums posters loved WOW at launch
EQ2 fan sites
I disagree in regards to WOW
because *I* was one of the naysayers saying that WOW was good game but that EQ2 had a better launch
the majority of forums posters loved WOW at launch
Considering finding out would postulate research I have no desire to undertake, I'll take your word for it .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I agree with you otherwise -- Blizzard games are an exception
EQ2 fan sites
Most likely having long term fans leads to such forgiveness .
I just reread your last sentence a few seconds ago .About EQ2's launch being better .
I wasn't there for WOW ,I was for EQ2 though . If that's the case ,my lord ! ROFL!
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
That's just stupid. Everyone lies and everyone has their own ethics/patterns about what they lie about. While I certainly agree that lieing is an unhealthy defense mechanism even chronic liers have limits of when they will and won't lie. Being a liar doesn't mean that someone is inherently untrustworthy. In the sense that a compulsive liar can actually be a very loyal, trustworthy (won't take advantage of others), generous person.
Miost people who lie often do so out of low self esteem.
Why do Funcom devs lie ?
LOL, you must be young. I've been around the block, and trust me, everyone lies at some time in their lives, just a matter of the circumstances, to whom, and the consequences of the lie that determine its impact.
Most AOC haters dont really lie, they just post their perception or spin about the game, much as the fanbois and dev's do.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
The real question that begs to be answered is why do the fanbois have to lie? If the product that they are so fanatical over is of such a high quality and is so enjoyable then it should be able to stand on it's own merits. However, the defenders of Age of Conan, amongst other games, will go out of their way to obfuscate the facts as much as possible. It is almost as if they are trying very hard to convince themselves that they aren't the fools that were so easily seperated from their, or their parents', money.
http://www.speedtest.net/result/7300033012
Age of Conan will be dominated by WAR Online. It's as simple as that, if Mythic does a good job at launch, and the game is at least playable by over 60% of their customers, it will already have been a better launch than AoC.
all those comments you posted were not from WOW at release - most were posted after the expansion
Metacritic doesnt date their reader comments, but it does store them in sequence
GuildWars launched 6 months after WOW
WOW launched with only 60 levels
Sorry forgot to edit, the "WOW was released with WOW" wasn't what i meant to say write and didn't check it when posting it.
my bad
But it doesn't change anything about what i said.
for any new blizzard game that launches (not expansions)
- you will see the vast majority of forums posters being positive
I'm assuming the same can be said for Bioware too
EQ2 fan sites
Funny seeing people comparing WoW's release to EQ2/AOC release. Been playing since the release, started with EQ2 then went straight to WoW when it came out, so did the rest of my guild. The difference was as clear as night and day. Yes WoW had some server problems, but the game itself was more polished 6 months prior to release on it beta than EQ2/AOC were at release.
All the talk was how EQ2 was going to do so well since it had the EQ fanbase to back it. Didn't quite turn out that way...
EQ2's release was horrible.
As for WoW, when it launched, Mauradon wasn't even in yet, neither was Dire Maul. So yes, it was lacking content too. Hero classes are still missing. BGs weren't put in until a year or two later. Were any of these promised? I don't know, and don't really care to research it.
I'm not a WoW hater or fanboy, i think it's a great game, but to suggest that it had a flawless launch is being blind.