Not to under value anyones opions, but if you are looking at this forum to determine whether or not to play this game please keep in mind one thing. The average happy/content player does not come to or post on forums. The percentage of unhappy customers which post is much higher than the happy ones that post
My opinions:
AoC has issues but I enjoy playing it much more than WOW, DAoC,LOTRO, EQ2, Vangard.
LOTRO seems to be a good game but I stopped playing because not many people I knew were playing and lack of end game content
wow is good. Been playing for several years but I am just looking for something new
Originally posted by dbell1967 LOTRO seems to be a good game but I stopped playing because not many people I knew were playing and lack of end game content
I've just paid the $50.00 but I am not going into the game with a lot of high expectations. After all it's a only game...and not my life.
Its the principle. Nobody is acting as if $50 is the end of the world. However, if companies can deliver bad products and get away with it, the quality of future products is at risk.
Why do the fans of this game have such a big problem with people complaining here anyway? If it bothers you, go and talk on AoC forums or just play.
AoC failed to deliver on many fronts. And while you can say, "well it didn't suck more then other new releases", that is a BS attitude and not true. LoTR for example had a good launch. I think consumers need to say something when a company ships a substandard product. AoC is worse then most launchs. People coming to the forums looking for information on a new game deserve to have all the facts about a game the good and the bad. People posting about the bad aspects of the game are providing a service to the community by letting people know what the state of the game is before they buy it that way when they buy it they don't have expectations that the game on the box and the game in the box match. I know that if I had read these forums before I bought the game I would have saved myself $50 and would in hindsight have been better off.
I've just paid the $50.00 but I am not going into the game with a lot of high expectations. After all it's a only game...and not my life.
And that is the entire point of my post. You are going into the game informed that their are some issues and you can make a decision if that is something you want to do in spite of shortcomings.
BTW One can easily make the case that the $50 is worth it if you are in fact only getting a months worth of entertainment. I logged over 120 hours playing and while if I knew what I do now I might not have spent that $50 I'm not going to say I didn't get a fair entertainment value for it. In my book less then 50 cents per hour for entertainment is a good value.
(shortened for reader's sake) ...I just love the posts where people write that they quit the game for whatever reason. They feel compelled to let everyone else know that they did just that, what they think is wrong with the game (which is great but really has no effect) and in the end they are the once ending up looking like the fool... (shortened for reader's sake)
I'm sorry but I just found this paragraph ridiculous. Explain how exactly it's bad for people to quit the game and give a reason for doing so to a forum? Is it bad for people to resubscribe to the game and give a reason for doing so to a forum? According to your logic nothing negative is aloud on a forum and you'll look like a fool for doing so.
With this paragraph I think you misunderstand what a forum is for. You claim yourself to not be a fanboi but you prove to be nonetheless. You say you realize the games flaws but bash others who bring them to light. You really don't understand what a forum is for if you think we post our likings or dislikings of the games in hopes that it will make or break a game.... that is not what we are here for.
(shortened for reader's sake) ...I just love the posts where people write that they quit the game for whatever reason. They feel compelled to let everyone else know that they did just that, what they think is wrong with the game (which is great but really has no effect) and in the end they are the once ending up looking like the fool... (shortened for reader's sake)
I'm sorry but I just found this paragraph ridiculous. Explain how exactly it's bad for people to quit the game and give a reason for doing so to a forum? Is it bad for people to resubscribe to the game and give a reason for doing so to a forum? According to your logic nothing negative is aloud on a forum and you'll look like a fool for doing so.
With this paragraph I think you misunderstand what a forum is for. You claim yourself to not be a fanboi but you prove to be nonetheless. You say you realize the games flaws but bash others who bring them to light. You really don't understand what a forum is for if you think we post our likings or dislikings of the games in hopes that it will make or break a game.... that is not what we are here for.
You know Douhk,
For Funcom's sake I hope there are enough fanbois (and girls) in their game to at least sustain it for the longer run, as that's the only type of players that will be left in a very short while.
Everyone else will be fed up with all the flaws, bad patching and continous soon(tm) promiss tales and quited!
aoc=fail funcom devs= liers and hypers Anyone paying to play a beta game with bugs everywere, half content, small, overinstanced must be a really desperate fanboi searching for naked toons..cause aoc delivers nothing else...its a fact, thats why theres only 30k players in Europe and i cant even sell my collectors edidion for half the price...i think to get rid of it i must pay someone to have it ... Nobody with half a brain want such a piece of crap game...i played crappy games in my life for at least 5 minutes..but aoc breaks the mold...
So mister expert.... what are the options of we want a good enjoyable MMO experiance?
go look at pre-cu swg
it wasn't a game it was a world that everyone enjoyed that is what gamers want.
However it dosen't exist anymore, how is anyone supposed to "look" at it?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Because this means one of several things: 1. You really, truly, do not like the game for some reason only you are privileged to. To me this is odd because there are so many other games out there - mmo, pc or console based - that suck even worse than AoC. You feel a need to let the world know why this game is bad, and you do just that by flaming everyone related to it. 2. AoC is surprisingly good and is a real threat to your favorite game - may it be WoW, LoTRO, Everquest, GW or what ever - so you feel forced to try and push it down into the ground. You need for people not to like AoC so they can continue playing your favorite instead. 3. You simply do not care about the game one way or another but you love to indulge yourself in the spirit of forum posting. You love hacking down on games just to create a reaction. Maybe there are more, sure there are, but i might be close to one of which that you represent am i not? Ladies and gentlemen, start you flaming!!
Its no threat lol.. People are already talking and asking for server merges.. go read their forums..
Because this means one of several things: 1. You really, truly, do not like the game for some reason only you are privileged to. To me this is odd because there are so many other games out there - mmo, pc or console based - that suck even worse than AoC. You feel a need to let the world know why this game is bad, and you do just that by flaming everyone related to it. 2. AoC is surprisingly good and is a real threat to your favorite game - may it be WoW, LoTRO, Everquest, GW or what ever - so you feel forced to try and push it down into the ground. You need for people not to like AoC so they can continue playing your favorite instead. 3. You simply do not care about the game one way or another but you love to indulge yourself in the spirit of forum posting. You love hacking down on games just to create a reaction. Maybe there are more, sure there are, but i might be close to one of which that you represent am i not? Ladies and gentlemen, start you flaming!!
I think some of your points are quite valid despite the people that will just flame you without even trying to understand what your saying.
It seems to be a new phenomenon of trying to discredit a game to a point where people will see so much negativity towards a game like AoC that they will not play it , meaning that the person or persons that dont play it will stay with the Haters game.
Because this means one of several things: 1. You really, truly, do not like the game for some reason only you are privileged to. To me this is odd because there are so many other games out there - mmo, pc or console based - that suck even worse than AoC. You feel a need to let the world know why this game is bad, and you do just that by flaming everyone related to it. 2. AoC is surprisingly good and is a real threat to your favorite game - may it be WoW, LoTRO, Everquest, GW or what ever - so you feel forced to try and push it down into the ground. You need for people not to like AoC so they can continue playing your favorite instead. 3. You simply do not care about the game one way or another but you love to indulge yourself in the spirit of forum posting. You love hacking down on games just to create a reaction. Maybe there are more, sure there are, but i might be close to one of which that you represent am i not? Ladies and gentlemen, start you flaming!!
Its no threat lol.. People are already talking and asking for server merges.. go read their forums..
Well those topics are hastily being deleted all over the place. Only signaling Funcom will never start merging servers any time soon! So those poor people on the low population servers are basically screwed.
It will be really bad press and undermine their Overhyping and false publicity if they do start merging servers now.
Instead, they keep deleting the topics or wait for the first flame responses from the fanbois and then lock it, so they can sing it out in a futile attempt to release AoC on the XBOX360 in Autumn, putting the current low population servers on top of the list!
So the poor people on the low populated servers are basically screwed again, as last thing you would want is end up with a bunch of console people! They are far worse the the PC FPS community!
Funny you would mention that as I was just thinking the same thing the other day on the AOC forums at Funcom. In all honesty both sides of the argument make valid points. The "whiners" so to speak are enraged that the game did not come out of the box as they believed they were promised. (no DX10, PvP levels, Perfect class balancing, Performance issues) while the so called "fanois" defend the game by saying that it is a newly released MMORPG and all MMO's come this way at launch.
Then you have the "trolls" who simply love to start a fight by posting whatever they think will get a reaction from the community.
Not saying where I belong on the topic. But just a hint, I am still playing but getting a little bored.
The only way to justify all the aggression is to look at how people are upset that AOC is taking all the players from their games. AOC is maintaining a 98% retention rate at the moment which I believe is really upsetting people who have invested their lives into WOW.
AOC is only getting better and now with over 1 million subscribers most of those games will be dead very soon and that is why so many people are mad at AOC.
The only way to justify all the aggression is to look at how people are upset that AOC is taking all the players from their games. AOC is maintaining a 98% retention rate at the moment which I believe is really upsetting people who have invested their lives into WOW. AOC is only getting better and now with over 1 million subscribers most of those games will be dead very soon and that is why so many people are mad at AOC.
WHAHAHA Darn, you made me spit my coke all over my screen. Now I have to clean it!
You got me there tho with this post. Haven't laughed so hard in a long time
The only way to justify all the aggression is to look at how people are upset that AOC is taking all the players from their games. AOC is maintaining a 98% retention rate at the moment which I believe is really upsetting people who have invested their lives into WOW. AOC is only getting better and now with over 1 million subscribers most of those games will be dead very soon and that is why so many people are mad at AOC.
Protus has always been like this though even when I used to be in a guild with him, from which he was removed. AoC does not have 1 million subs nor is it retaining 98% of their subscribers.
Originally posted by Protus-AOC The only way to justify all the aggression is to look at how people are upset that AOC is taking all the players from their games. AOC is maintaining a 98% retention rate at the moment which I believe is really upsetting people who have invested their lives into WOW. AOC is only getting better and now with over 1 million subscribers most of those games will be dead very soon and that is why so many people are mad at AOC.
The only way to justify all the aggression is to look at how people are upset that AOC is taking all the players from their games. AOC is maintaining a 98% retention rate at the moment which I believe is really upsetting people who have invested their lives into WOW. AOC is only getting better and now with over 1 million subscribers most of those games will be dead very soon and that is why so many people are mad at AOC.
WHAHAHA Darn, you made me spit my coke all over my screen. Now I have to clean it!
You got me there tho with this post. Haven't laughed so hard in a long time
I don't think this guy is a real person. Check his posting history. Looks like a Funcom PR-bot to me
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
The only way to justify all the aggression is to look at how people are upset that AOC is taking all the players from their games. AOC is maintaining a 98% retention rate at the moment which I believe is really upsetting people who have invested their lives into WOW. AOC is only getting better and now with over 1 million subscribers most of those games will be dead very soon and that is why so many people are mad at AOC.
WHAHAHA Darn, you made me spit my coke all over my screen. Now I have to clean it!
You got me there tho with this post. Haven't laughed so hard in a long time
I don't think this guy is a real person. Check his posting history. Looks like a Funcom PR-bot to me
DB
Sounds like an AoC hater with a rabid fanboi alt for laughs.
Oh and btw, wheres King Carebear? Haven't seen him around recently...
I must say after lvling for the last month I have come to the conclusion that this game is garbage. I have been working on crafting but with all the bugs it’s impossible for me to complete many tasks specially Alchemy. The stupid t-1 brittle leather shit will not drop off of any mob I have over 200 rough leather with no luck to finish that particular quest that’s just one of the many broken quests I have run into. NO I HATE WOW btw. And yes since AoC seems to sux after 1month I will be trying WAR and prolly coming back to AoC after a couple months to check it out. It reminds me a lot of the Vanguard launch buggy buggy buggy. but unlike Vanguard AoC is soooo small.... it’s not over populated it’s just small... and it seems to be geting worse not better my Lag spikes have increased by at least 60% i had less problems with the game at its launch then i do now. i now crash to teh login screen daily... so who is incharge of teh shitty updates? maybe FunCom can fix these many issues I hope so I really did enjoy the first 60 lvls but after getting sooo aggravated with the increase of lag spikes that get me killed and the crafting system that you can’t ever start till 40 I just can’t seem to log on anymore.... but maybe in a few days i will go and log on just to remind myself how sux ass this game has turned out to be.
Life is about taking risks. The higher $$s you put on a service, the higher expectations you might have. $15 a month for tens of hours of entertainment is very very cheap, even cheaper than having a food in McDonalds. Therefore you can not expect the highest quality with your mom's 15$, nor you can expect a finished product from an entertainment type where you know it will be patched every week
LOL that's priceless
1. Life is about risks. Purchasing products of entertainments are NOT. If you buy an LCD TV and it does not have any sound, will you accept it as a "risk", a part of life? LOL
2. Well I am playing an MMO that costs less than 15 USD a month, it is a finished product (was already finished at launchday) that has zero bugs, and it is not being patched every week, but constantly updated with new content and features every 2nd or 3rd month.
But, maybe I'm spoiled and this is not how each MMO should be. You are saying we all should accept crap as crap then?
DB
Mr.Nubcake,
1. LCD TV is NOT a service, it's an actual, physical product. Neither is the chocolate milkshake someone was blah blahing about. Services require constant interaction with the producer and the customer. It might be via patching the game, or as in restaurants via the waitresses. You can not compare a service with a finished product that is on shelves.
2. We understood that you are playing Hello kitty online for $9.99 a month and having issues with "Flirting with the pink tailed kitty" quest, that is allright. But did you know that no compex software has ever been developed without any bugs? No? Well sorry to say but you are wrong.
Maybe you should spend less time in forums and go back to your hello kitty online? That's a friendly advice.
Services are products just like physical items that you buy. Everything you BUY is a product, be it service, food, TV whatever. I suggest you take some minimal course in economics or marketing at least.
Actually, I am playing LOTRO. Not surprised that you haven't recognised it, since if you had ever tried it, you would not be saying utter ridiculous stupidity about accepting any kind of crap that some publishers/developers have the face to put it in your (and other customers of those PRODUCTS') mouth.
Good chewing anyways (and an advice: calling names and labeling other people pejoratively do not make you look more mature...)
(Edit: and what's your issue with trying to send everyone with different ideas than yours "away" from these forums? Afraid of what?
DB
Services are NOT products just like physical items that you buy. After that point I haven't even read anything at all.
I am an MBA graduate and has taken several courses regarding services management. Don't come here and try to teach me stuff which you don't know shit about.
Enough responding to some random dude... next..
All that shows is those degrees really don't mean anything anymore. Now I know why there are MBAs working fries at McDonalds.
Most of the animosity dirrected towards FC is the fact that they outright lied to people. It is probably normal for the developers to hype their game in the marketing process, but - FC didn't sell an BMW under guise of selling a mercedes, they kinda sold a Fiat Uno to people under a guise of selling a SLK class Mercedes. They outright lied a week before release, telling people things are ingame and working at the time they most definitely knew that there is no chance that those things will be ingame.
Hell - whenever beta testers rose hell in CB why the heck they are not testing half of the things for release, thet were always told that they are testing an old client (wtf) and that the internal QA was testing the most recent version where everything is all rosy and dandy. After that, Gaute came up with that letter where he said they are not putting sieges and stuff into CB, because they want to "surprise" us. Half of the bugs were reported a million times in CB, and half of the content wasn't even there to be tested.
On top of all that, they are not communicating with the community - mods closing threads and commenting on it is not communicating with the community - which was also happening in beta - you could raise a very valid argument, and it could go on for pages and pages of posts without any dev comment, and then in the end one of them made a short smartass comment.
I can't speak for other people, but I can say for myself - if they didn't do stunts like that, if they didn't lie and decieve and if they tried to reach out to the community, come clean at where the game is at without self-boasting like that burgers and steak comparison, and work hard together with the community to improve the game as fast as possible, I would give them a chance.
Liers and cheaters do not deserve a chance however.
besides, I recall the players on boards like these as the ones "hyping" the game. I wont be playing AoC myself, but stop kidding yourself about what the company selling a product is "supposed" to do.
When I said i had "time", i meant virtual time, i got no RL "time" for you.
(shortened for reader's sake) ...I just love the posts where people write that they quit the game for whatever reason. They feel compelled to let everyone else know that they did just that, what they think is wrong with the game (which is great but really has no effect) and in the end they are the once ending up looking like the fool... (shortened for reader's sake)
I'm sorry but I just found this paragraph ridiculous. Explain how exactly it's bad for people to quit the game and give a reason for doing so to a forum? Is it bad for people to resubscribe to the game and give a reason for doing so to a forum? According to your logic nothing negative is aloud on a forum and you'll look like a fool for doing so.
With this paragraph I think you misunderstand what a forum is for. You claim yourself to not be a fanboi but you prove to be nonetheless. You say you realize the games flaws but bash others who bring them to light. You really don't understand what a forum is for if you think we post our likings or dislikings of the games in hopes that it will make or break a game.... that is not what we are here for.
the rest of us see it for what it is. You are trying very hard to validate yourself. You most likely do this in real life too. You want people to agree with you and make your decisions seem reasonable. Most people see right thru people like you, thats what he is saying.
When I said i had "time", i meant virtual time, i got no RL "time" for you.
(shortened for reader's sake) ...I just love the posts where people write that they quit the game for whatever reason. They feel compelled to let everyone else know that they did just that, what they think is wrong with the game (which is great but really has no effect) and in the end they are the once ending up looking like the fool... (shortened for reader's sake)
I'm sorry but I just found this paragraph ridiculous. Explain how exactly it's bad for people to quit the game and give a reason for doing so to a forum? Is it bad for people to resubscribe to the game and give a reason for doing so to a forum? According to your logic nothing negative is aloud on a forum and you'll look like a fool for doing so.
With this paragraph I think you misunderstand what a forum is for. You claim yourself to not be a fanboi but you prove to be nonetheless. You say you realize the games flaws but bash others who bring them to light. You really don't understand what a forum is for if you think we post our likings or dislikings of the games in hopes that it will make or break a game.... that is not what we are here for.
the rest of us see it for what it is. You are trying very hard to validate yourself. You most likely do this in real life too. You want people to agree with you and make your decisions seem reasonable. Most people see right thru people like you, thats what he is saying.
Funny, I seen a guy stating the truth. What exactly are you seeing?
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Not to under value anyones opions, but if you are looking at this forum to determine whether or not to play this game please keep in mind one thing. The average happy/content player does not come to or post on forums. The percentage of unhappy customers which post is much higher than the happy ones that post
My opinions:
AoC has issues but I enjoy playing it much more than WOW, DAoC,LOTRO, EQ2, Vangard.
LOTRO seems to be a good game but I stopped playing because not many people I knew were playing and lack of end game content
wow is good. Been playing for several years but I am just looking for something new
i feel that AoC lacks much more end game content
Its the principle. Nobody is acting as if $50 is the end of the world. However, if companies can deliver bad products and get away with it, the quality of future products is at risk.
Why do the fans of this game have such a big problem with people complaining here anyway? If it bothers you, go and talk on AoC forums or just play.
I've just paid the $50.00 but I am not going into the game with a lot of high expectations. After all it's a only game...and not my life.
And that is the entire point of my post. You are going into the game informed that their are some issues and you can make a decision if that is something you want to do in spite of shortcomings.
BTW One can easily make the case that the $50 is worth it if you are in fact only getting a months worth of entertainment. I logged over 120 hours playing and while if I knew what I do now I might not have spent that $50 I'm not going to say I didn't get a fair entertainment value for it. In my book less then 50 cents per hour for entertainment is a good value.
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Ethion
I'm sorry but I just found this paragraph ridiculous. Explain how exactly it's bad for people to quit the game and give a reason for doing so to a forum? Is it bad for people to resubscribe to the game and give a reason for doing so to a forum? According to your logic nothing negative is aloud on a forum and you'll look like a fool for doing so.
With this paragraph I think you misunderstand what a forum is for. You claim yourself to not be a fanboi but you prove to be nonetheless. You say you realize the games flaws but bash others who bring them to light. You really don't understand what a forum is for if you think we post our likings or dislikings of the games in hopes that it will make or break a game.... that is not what we are here for.
I'm sorry but I just found this paragraph ridiculous. Explain how exactly it's bad for people to quit the game and give a reason for doing so to a forum? Is it bad for people to resubscribe to the game and give a reason for doing so to a forum? According to your logic nothing negative is aloud on a forum and you'll look like a fool for doing so.
With this paragraph I think you misunderstand what a forum is for. You claim yourself to not be a fanboi but you prove to be nonetheless. You say you realize the games flaws but bash others who bring them to light. You really don't understand what a forum is for if you think we post our likings or dislikings of the games in hopes that it will make or break a game.... that is not what we are here for.
You know Douhk,
For Funcom's sake I hope there are enough fanbois (and girls) in their game to at least sustain it for the longer run, as that's the only type of players that will be left in a very short while.
Everyone else will be fed up with all the flaws, bad patching and continous soon(tm) promiss tales and quited!
Cheers
So mister expert.... what are the options of we want a good enjoyable MMO experiance?
go look at pre-cu swg
it wasn't a game it was a world that everyone enjoyed that is what gamers want.
However it dosen't exist anymore, how is anyone supposed to "look" at it?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Its no threat lol.. People are already talking and asking for server merges.. go read their forums..
I think some of your points are quite valid despite the people that will just flame you without even trying to understand what your saying.
It seems to be a new phenomenon of trying to discredit a game to a point where people will see so much negativity towards a game like AoC that they will not play it , meaning that the person or persons that dont play it will stay with the Haters game.
Its no threat lol.. People are already talking and asking for server merges.. go read their forums..
Well those topics are hastily being deleted all over the place. Only signaling Funcom will never start merging servers any time soon! So those poor people on the low population servers are basically screwed.
It will be really bad press and undermine their Overhyping and false publicity if they do start merging servers now.
Instead, they keep deleting the topics or wait for the first flame responses from the fanbois and then lock it, so they can sing it out in a futile attempt to release AoC on the XBOX360 in Autumn, putting the current low population servers on top of the list!
So the poor people on the low populated servers are basically screwed again, as last thing you would want is end up with a bunch of console people! They are far worse the the PC FPS community!
I truly feel sorry for them
Cheers
Funny you would mention that as I was just thinking the same thing the other day on the AOC forums at Funcom. In all honesty both sides of the argument make valid points. The "whiners" so to speak are enraged that the game did not come out of the box as they believed they were promised. (no DX10, PvP levels, Perfect class balancing, Performance issues) while the so called "fanois" defend the game by saying that it is a newly released MMORPG and all MMO's come this way at launch.
Then you have the "trolls" who simply love to start a fight by posting whatever they think will get a reaction from the community.
Not saying where I belong on the topic. But just a hint, I am still playing but getting a little bored.
The only way to justify all the aggression is to look at how people are upset that AOC is taking all the players from their games. AOC is maintaining a 98% retention rate at the moment which I believe is really upsetting people who have invested their lives into WOW.
AOC is only getting better and now with over 1 million subscribers most of those games will be dead very soon and that is why so many people are mad at AOC.
WHAHAHA
Darn, you made me spit my coke all over my screen. Now I have to clean it!
You got me there tho with this post. Haven't laughed so hard in a long time
With fanbois like this AoC needs no enemies.
Hahaha.
Protus has always been like this though even when I used to be in a guild with him, from which he was removed. AoC does not have 1 million subs nor is it retaining 98% of their subscribers.
LOL..... thats all i got to say.
WHAHAHA
Darn, you made me spit my coke all over my screen. Now I have to clean it!
You got me there tho with this post. Haven't laughed so hard in a long time
I don't think this guy is a real person. Check his posting history. Looks like a Funcom PR-bot to me
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
WHAHAHA
Darn, you made me spit my coke all over my screen. Now I have to clean it!
You got me there tho with this post. Haven't laughed so hard in a long time
I don't think this guy is a real person. Check his posting history. Looks like a Funcom PR-bot to me
DB
Sounds like an AoC hater with a rabid fanboi alt for laughs.
Oh and btw, wheres King Carebear? Haven't seen him around recently...
I must say after lvling for the last month I have come to the conclusion that this game is garbage. I have been working on crafting but with all the bugs it’s impossible for me to complete many tasks specially Alchemy. The stupid t-1 brittle leather shit will not drop off of any mob I have over 200 rough leather with no luck to finish that particular quest that’s just one of the many broken quests I have run into. NO I HATE WOW btw. And yes since AoC seems to sux after 1month I will be trying WAR and prolly coming back to AoC after a couple months to check it out. It reminds me a lot of the Vanguard launch buggy buggy buggy. but unlike Vanguard AoC is soooo small.... it’s not over populated it’s just small... and it seems to be geting worse not better my Lag spikes have increased by at least 60% i had less problems with the game at its launch then i do now. i now crash to teh login screen daily... so who is incharge of teh shitty updates? maybe FunCom can fix these many issues I hope so I really did enjoy the first 60 lvls but after getting sooo aggravated with the increase of lag spikes that get me killed and the crafting system that you can’t ever start till 40 I just can’t seem to log on anymore.... but maybe in a few days i will go and log on just to remind myself how sux ass this game has turned out to be.
You forgot:
4. The game really isn't that good and you're disappointed.
See how simple things are sometimes?
LOL that's priceless
1. Life is about risks. Purchasing products of entertainments are NOT. If you buy an LCD TV and it does not have any sound, will you accept it as a "risk", a part of life? LOL
2. Well I am playing an MMO that costs less than 15 USD a month, it is a finished product (was already finished at launchday) that has zero bugs, and it is not being patched every week, but constantly updated with new content and features every 2nd or 3rd month.
But, maybe I'm spoiled and this is not how each MMO should be. You are saying we all should accept crap as crap then?
DB
Mr.Nubcake,
1. LCD TV is NOT a service, it's an actual, physical product. Neither is the chocolate milkshake someone was blah blahing about. Services require constant interaction with the producer and the customer. It might be via patching the game, or as in restaurants via the waitresses. You can not compare a service with a finished product that is on shelves.
2. We understood that you are playing Hello kitty online for $9.99 a month and having issues with "Flirting with the pink tailed kitty" quest, that is allright. But did you know that no compex software has ever been developed without any bugs? No? Well sorry to say but you are wrong.
Maybe you should spend less time in forums and go back to your hello kitty online? That's a friendly advice.
Services are products just like physical items that you buy. Everything you BUY is a product, be it service, food, TV whatever. I suggest you take some minimal course in economics or marketing at least.
Actually, I am playing LOTRO. Not surprised that you haven't recognised it, since if you had ever tried it, you would not be saying utter ridiculous stupidity about accepting any kind of crap that some publishers/developers have the face to put it in your (and other customers of those PRODUCTS') mouth.
Good chewing anyways
(and an advice: calling names and labeling other people pejoratively do not make you look more mature...)
(Edit: and what's your issue with trying to send everyone with different ideas than yours "away" from these forums? Afraid of what?
DB
Services are NOT products just like physical items that you buy. After that point I haven't even read anything at all.
http://ezinearticles.com/?Differences-Between-Products-And-Services&id=159561
I am an MBA graduate and has taken several courses regarding services management. Don't come here and try to teach me stuff which you don't know shit about.
Enough responding to some random dude... next..
All that shows is those degrees really don't mean anything anymore. Now I know why there are MBAs working fries at McDonalds.
Most of the animosity dirrected towards FC is the fact that they outright lied to people. It is probably normal for the developers to hype their game in the marketing process, but - FC didn't sell an BMW under guise of selling a mercedes, they kinda sold a Fiat Uno to people under a guise of selling a SLK class Mercedes. They outright lied a week before release, telling people things are ingame and working at the time they most definitely knew that there is no chance that those things will be ingame.
Hell - whenever beta testers rose hell in CB why the heck they are not testing half of the things for release, thet were always told that they are testing an old client (wtf) and that the internal QA was testing the most recent version where everything is all rosy and dandy. After that, Gaute came up with that letter where he said they are not putting sieges and stuff into CB, because they want to "surprise" us. Half of the bugs were reported a million times in CB, and half of the content wasn't even there to be tested.
On top of all that, they are not communicating with the community - mods closing threads and commenting on it is not communicating with the community - which was also happening in beta - you could raise a very valid argument, and it could go on for pages and pages of posts without any dev comment, and then in the end one of them made a short smartass comment.
I can't speak for other people, but I can say for myself - if they didn't do stunts like that, if they didn't lie and decieve and if they tried to reach out to the community, come clean at where the game is at without self-boasting like that burgers and steak comparison, and work hard together with the community to improve the game as fast as possible, I would give them a chance.
Liers and cheaters do not deserve a chance however.
you're kidding right? Caveat emptor
besides, I recall the players on boards like these as the ones "hyping" the game. I wont be playing AoC myself, but stop kidding yourself about what the company selling a product is "supposed" to do.
When I said i had "time", i meant virtual time, i got no RL "time" for you.
I'm sorry but I just found this paragraph ridiculous. Explain how exactly it's bad for people to quit the game and give a reason for doing so to a forum? Is it bad for people to resubscribe to the game and give a reason for doing so to a forum? According to your logic nothing negative is aloud on a forum and you'll look like a fool for doing so.
With this paragraph I think you misunderstand what a forum is for. You claim yourself to not be a fanboi but you prove to be nonetheless. You say you realize the games flaws but bash others who bring them to light. You really don't understand what a forum is for if you think we post our likings or dislikings of the games in hopes that it will make or break a game.... that is not what we are here for.
the rest of us see it for what it is. You are trying very hard to validate yourself. You most likely do this in real life too. You want people to agree with you and make your decisions seem reasonable. Most people see right thru people like you, thats what he is saying.
When I said i had "time", i meant virtual time, i got no RL "time" for you.
I'm sorry but I just found this paragraph ridiculous. Explain how exactly it's bad for people to quit the game and give a reason for doing so to a forum? Is it bad for people to resubscribe to the game and give a reason for doing so to a forum? According to your logic nothing negative is aloud on a forum and you'll look like a fool for doing so.
With this paragraph I think you misunderstand what a forum is for. You claim yourself to not be a fanboi but you prove to be nonetheless. You say you realize the games flaws but bash others who bring them to light. You really don't understand what a forum is for if you think we post our likings or dislikings of the games in hopes that it will make or break a game.... that is not what we are here for.
the rest of us see it for what it is. You are trying very hard to validate yourself. You most likely do this in real life too. You want people to agree with you and make your decisions seem reasonable. Most people see right thru people like you, thats what he is saying.
Funny, I seen a guy stating the truth. What exactly are you seeing?