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  • stinneystinney Member Posts: 35

    I always like how CU/NGE looks like Cunge, which I think sounds like a word that describes an unpleasant vaginal discharge.

     

    Kind of sums up the current game.

     

    And Pre-CU fans have something real to whine about.

    People who whine about whining, should just STFU. Wait a minute? Did I just whine about people who whine about whining?

     

  • HadeanHadean Member Posts: 27
    I am officially whining about whining about people who whine about whining.

    Here is a novel idea. Let's have the freedom to express our opinions without trying to play forum dictator. It's terribly clich

    "If you don't take care of your customers somebody else will."

  • keltic1701keltic1701 Member Posts: 1,162
    Originally posted by stinney


    I always like how CU/NGE looks like Cunge, which I think sounds like a word that describes an unpleasant vaginal discharge.
     
    Kind of sums up the current game.
     
    And Pre-CU fans have something real to whine about.
    People who whine about whining, should just STFU. Wait a minute? Did I just whine about people who whine about whining?
     

     

    It's an endless, vicious cycle!!

  • Costanza420Costanza420 Member Posts: 77
    Originally posted by ArcAngel3



    Also, man have you noticed the tremendous increase in "silence the vets" posts and comments since the announcement of the Bioware MMO?  Really seems to have stirred up a hornets' nest of SOE/SWG defenders.

     

     

    No. I haven't.

    You are seriously imagining things. Get off your cross -- you are not this persecuted class of gamer you claim to be.

  • krytenkryten Member Posts: 131
    Originally posted by darwa


    I also think they should delete all posts that quote more than one previous post :P

     

    uber quotes! quotes as far as the eye can see!!!! its feeling alot like bioware in here!

  • FishermageFishermage Member Posts: 7,562


    Originally posted by Costanza420
    Originally posted by ArcAngel3 Also, man have you noticed the tremendous increase in "silence the vets" posts and comments since the announcement of the Bioware MMO?  Really seems to have stirred up a hornets' nest of SOE/SWG defenders.
     
     
    No. I haven't.
    You are seriously imagining things. Get off your cross -- you are not this persecuted class of gamer you claim to be.


    Wow, right on cue.

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by severius

    Originally posted by Tenebroso


    /signed in blood
     
    i m so tired of these guys complaining and clogging the foruns with their tears and broken dreams. choose another game and move on people!
     
     
     



     

    This would be the Veteran Refuge.  Your post is nothing but trolling and flame bait, not to mention in the wrong forum.

    Considering the vet refuge was set up basically as a home for those that felt the need to rant and rave , I don't think his post is out of place. Every once in a while it's nice to read a rant and rave about ranting and raving .

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • Costanza420Costanza420 Member Posts: 77
    Originally posted by Fishermage


     

    Originally posted by Costanza420


    Originally posted by ArcAngel3
     
    Also, man have you noticed the tremendous increase in "silence the vets" posts and comments since the announcement of the Bioware MMO?  Really seems to have stirred up a hornets' nest of SOE/SWG defenders.

     





     

    No. I haven't.

    You are seriously imagining things. Get off your cross -- you are not this persecuted class of gamer you claim to be.

     



    Wow, right on cue.

    I'm sorry, what?

  • MathosMathos Member Posts: 897
    Originally posted by Tenebroso


    /signed in blood
     
    i m so tired of these guys complaining and clogging the foruns with their tears and broken dreams. choose another game and move on people!
     
     
     



     

    /Yawn

    /wait

    /nothing new to see here

    /moves on to new posts

     

  • ZorvanZorvan Member CommonPosts: 8,912
    Originally posted by ArcAngel3

    Originally posted by Zorvan

    Originally posted by Costanza420

    Originally posted by Leasa

    Originally posted by Tenebroso


    /signed in blood
     
    i m so tired of these guys complaining and clogging the foruns with their tears and broken dreams. choose another game and move on people!
     
     
     



     

    If you dont like them don't read them.  Simple as that.

     

    The whiny threads are one thing. The continued infestation of actual threads about the game in the general boards, despite it being a clear violation of MMORPG.com's supposed terms of service, is another entirely. EVERY thread around here gets hijacked.

    I agree. However, the OP whining about whining in a forum section made for the whiners kinda defeats the purpose, does it not?

     

    You know I really do enjoy your biting logic lol, even when I'm on the other side of it occasionally :)

    Also, man have you noticed the tremendous increase in "silence the vets" posts and comments since the announcement of the Bioware MMO?  Really seems to have stirred up a hornets' nest of SOE/SWG defenders.

     



     

    Yeah, I've noticed. it's funny on both sides, really. You have extreme fanbois who use the new Bioware mmo to rub salt in the wound, so to speak, of the "disgruntled refuges". On the other side, you have the extreme "refuges" who declare holy jihad on Bioware and their customers if Bioware doesn't make the game the way the "disgruntled" declare it should be made.

    Both sides seem to forget that Bioware and SOE, KotOR and SWG, are two different devs and two different games. Neither has anything to do with the other in terms of the other as far as game mechanics, gameplay, etc. are concerned.

    The only comparison between the two is which will have the bigger market share, and both share this concern with every other game on the market.

  • Moaky07Moaky07 Member Posts: 2,096
    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

    Originally posted by severius

    Originally posted by Tenebroso


    /signed in blood
     
    i m so tired of these guys complaining and clogging the foruns with their tears and broken dreams. choose another game and move on people!
     
     
     



     

    This would be the Veteran Refuge.  Your post is nothing but trolling and flame bait, not to mention in the wrong forum.

    Considering the vet refuge was set up basically as a home for those that felt the need to rant and rave , I don't think his post is out of place. Every once in a while it's nice to read a rant and rave about ranting and raving .



     

    If that is what the vet forum is for, then why did they take it over to the main brds? Insulting folks cause they expect if BW is making a new game it should be catered to them...and pizz on everyone else.

    Always the double standard when it comes to the vets...makes reading these forums awesome.

    The more they stomp their feet, the more I laugh.

    I wonder when someone is going to hold their breath...or go on a hunger strike until classic servers are launched? Cause according to very recent posts, by a few vets, they are STILL expecting that to happen.

    And it is almost 3 years later.

    Yep...any time now...any time.

    Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by Moaky07

    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

    Originally posted by severius

    Originally posted by Tenebroso


    /signed in blood
     
    i m so tired of these guys complaining and clogging the foruns with their tears and broken dreams. choose another game and move on people!
     
     
     



     

    This would be the Veteran Refuge.  Your post is nothing but trolling and flame bait, not to mention in the wrong forum.

    Considering the vet refuge was set up basically as a home for those that felt the need to rant and rave , I don't think his post is out of place. Every once in a while it's nice to read a rant and rave about ranting and raving .



     

    If that is what the vet forum is for, then why did they take it over to the main brds? Insulting folks cause they expect if BW is making a new game it should be catered to them...and pizz on everyone else.

     

    To be fair the actions of those few posters has no bearing on this forum , the people who post here or anyone who is a "vet". I doubt many here agree With or support what those poster have been doing.

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • Moaky07Moaky07 Member Posts: 2,096

    Malickie

    If I name names...then I invite the warning email from the staff.

    That said, you and I both know that several "regulars" around here use 2nd...and probably more accounts for posting.

    I know this cause of a run in with one during a week night back in March or so...bout 4am EST...made a somewhat nuetral post....bam...warning...was reported.  Got email...fast like since only a few folks post during those hrs. Vet keeps posting a bit...logs for a few...couple of posts come out on other account...then back to main account. Did the same thing a short bit later and noticed the 2nd account goes active everytime that persons appears to be on suspension.

    Circumstantial...sure is...and awful fishy(no not fisher heh) besides.

    Have seen the behavior from the person several times...matter of fact he is the one that has reported me numerous times...and even got himself a vacation for his tactics. I am not the only one they pull the crap on...keep waiting for them to get a perma-ban.

    If he reads this he will know I mean him. He got a ban last night I am pretty sure, so he will only be able to respond with 2nd account I believe heh

    Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.

  • SoliTearSoliTear Member Posts: 46

    including this thread also?

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by Moaky07


    Malickie
    If I name names...then I invite the warning email from the staff.
    That said, you and I both know that several "regulars" around here use 2nd...and probably more accounts for posting.
    I know this cause of a run in with one during a week night back in March or so...bout 4am EST...made a somewhat nuetral post....bam...warning...was reported.  Got email...fast like since only a few folks post during those hrs. Vet keeps posting a bit...logs for a few...couple of posts come out on other account...then back to main account. Did the same thing a short bit later and noticed the 2nd account goes active everytime that persons appears to be on suspension.
    Circumstantial...sure is...and awful fishy(no not fisher heh) besides.
    Have seen the behavior from the person several times...matter of fact he is the one that has reported me numerous times...and even got himself a vacation for his tactics. I am not the only one they pull the crap on...keep waiting for them to get a perma-ban.
    If he reads this he will know I mean him. He got a ban last night I am pretty sure, so he will only be able to respond with 2nd account I believe heh

    It seems you just want someone to agree that there are trouble makers in our ranks , Who would disagree ?This IS the internet after all .

    I have noticed what you described about alt accounts and certain individuals. However that explanation is already given in my last post. They don't represent the vast majority of VETS , anymore than troublemakers that troll here  represent Current players..

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • Moaky07Moaky07 Member Posts: 2,096

    I guess you werent around today...

    Brought up the subject about an element of the vet crowd causing folks to have negative impressions pertaining to vets, their role in folks not wanting to play SWG etc.

    O CHIT!!!!!!!

    You would of thought it was rocket science....some peeps acted like they didnt understand or couldnt admit as much.

    According to them it was all on SOE/LA...never the customer.

    And that vocal minute minority is at it again.

    Told Fish in some mails we exchanged earlier....folks need to quit crying about the past, and be positive about BW. Making threats etc is just flat nutz at this stage of the game. BW hasnt done anything to warrant it.

    And like I also told him...if there is one thing I trust em to do...that is make a game that will be good.

    If the thing sinks, it will be on EA/LA.

    Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.

  • dethgardethgar Member Posts: 293

    I'm not reading the 5 pages. I think the OP's grammar and spelling speak to the intelligence of his rationalization of censorship as a method of moderation. You have an opinion huh? Well fuck you pal, I'm sick of you speaking freely and thinking for yourself!

    The majority of SWG Vets don't even post at this site? Why? We've moved on to other games. Yes, we're bitter towards SOE. We should be. We invested both time and money into it, only to have it taken from us. Name a video game that has ever been taken away from a consumer on a company whim. You think Rockstar is going to come to your home and replace your GTA 4 game with a different version? That's basically what SOE did. We literally can't play the game we purchased. Even though its there, in the box, we can't play it. We also had no say in the direction of the game. SOE hand  picked yes men from the fan base and used that as their shield for the flames that came forth for it. They got our input from select players that would never say no, and if they did, they'd be replaced.

    Think of it this way. You buy stock in a pharmecutical company. They announce after several months that they will be changing their business into a medical supply company. After the change, in the dead of night, they up and turn the business into a tobacco company. Thats how severe the changes were. We invested into it, and we were screwed. There isn't anything that can be done now, all we can do is boycott SOE products until we decide they have their act together(firing Smedley basically).

    I digress however. If we choose to discuss what SOE is or isn't doing to mend the fence they destroyed, we have that right as human beings. Or should we just go out and kill people who don't share your opinion or the popular opinion?

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by Moaky07


    I guess you werent around today...
    Brought up the subject about an element of the vet crowd causing folks to have negative impressions pertaining to vets, their role in folks not wanting to play SWG etc.
    O CHIT!!!!!!!
    You would of thought it was rocket science....some peeps acted like they didnt understand or couldnt admit as much.
    According to them it was all on SOE/LA...never the customer.
    And that vocal minute minority is at it again.
    Told Fish in some mails we exchanged earlier....folks need to quit crying about the past, and be positive about BW. Making threats etc is just flat nutz at this stage of the game. BW hasnt done anything to warrant it.
    And like I also told him...if there is one thing I trust em to do...that is make a game that will be good.
    If the thing sinks, it will be on EA/LA.

    It does happen that way for sure , I've commented myself on that very subject . I like to call it -Stigma we have one for sure , And it is a direct result of certain posters antics.

    However it's not something that really matters , Anonymity and all that . Besides it's more of a club mentality around here IMO, at least more so than anything else. You're not going to get a lot of people on your side if you're going up against the group . Group think is a ball-buster sometimes.

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • ArcAngel3ArcAngel3 Member Posts: 2,931
    Originally posted by Fishermage


     

    Originally posted by Costanza420


    Originally posted by ArcAngel3
     
    Also, man have you noticed the tremendous increase in "silence the vets" posts and comments since the announcement of the Bioware MMO?  Really seems to have stirred up a hornets' nest of SOE/SWG defenders.

     



     

    No. I haven't.

    You are seriously imagining things. Get off your cross -- you are not this persecuted class of gamer you claim to be.

     



    Wow, right on cue.

    Lol, well you must be right, there haven't been any silence the vet threads being posted recently at all (caution, don't read the title of this thread if you want to stick to your point of view--not you btw Fish, responding to the post above yours ^_^).

    I've also just left three other threads with the same level of complaining about vets' complaining--ironically.  In my experience there are usually only one or two of those threads active on any given evening lol.

    Anyways, I'm not sure what class you think I believe I'm a part of.  I don't feel particularly persecuted tbh--slightly defrauded a few years back maybe, but not persecuted.  I also don't take "you need to stop talking about how bad SOE is" comments as persecution.  Driving to work provides more persecution than this.

    If they threatened me if I wouldn't stop using free speech, well then I'd feel persecuted, but that's never happened.

    Freedom of expression is a good thing in my mind.  I wouldn't want to silence anyone who currently enjoys SWG for example.  Trying to silence people who disagree with you is kind of dictatorial isn't it?

  • FishermageFishermage Member Posts: 7,562


    Originally posted by Costanza420
    Originally posted by Fishermage  

    Originally posted by Costanza420

    Originally posted by ArcAngel3
     
    Also, man have you noticed the tremendous increase in "silence the vets" posts and comments since the announcement of the Bioware MMO?  Really seems to have stirred up a hornets' nest of SOE/SWG defenders.
     
     
    No. I haven't.
    You are seriously imagining things. Get off your cross -- you are not this persecuted class of gamer you claim to be.


     

    Wow, right on cue.



    I'm sorry, what?

    You said you hadn't noticed, then did exactly what he said people were doing :)
  • Costanza420Costanza420 Member Posts: 77
    Originally posted by Fishermage


     

    Originally posted by Costanza420


    Originally posted by Fishermage
     
     





    Originally posted by Costanza420




    Originally posted by ArcAngel3

     

    Also, man have you noticed the tremendous increase in "silence the vets" posts and comments since the announcement of the Bioware MMO?  Really seems to have stirred up a hornets' nest of SOE/SWG defenders.

     

     






     

    No. I haven't.

    You are seriously imagining things. Get off your cross -- you are not this persecuted class of gamer you claim to be.





     

     

    Wow, right on cue.





    I'm sorry, what?




    You said you hadn't noticed, then did exactly what he said people were doing :)

     

     

    Who am I attempting to "silence"?

  • ArcAngel3ArcAngel3 Member Posts: 2,931
    Originally posted by Zorvan

    Originally posted by ArcAngel3

    Originally posted by Zorvan

    Originally posted by Costanza420

    Originally posted by Leasa

    Originally posted by Tenebroso


    /signed in blood
     
    i m so tired of these guys complaining and clogging the foruns with their tears and broken dreams. choose another game and move on people!
     
     
     



     

    If you dont like them don't read them.  Simple as that.

     

    The whiny threads are one thing. The continued infestation of actual threads about the game in the general boards, despite it being a clear violation of MMORPG.com's supposed terms of service, is another entirely. EVERY thread around here gets hijacked.

    I agree. However, the OP whining about whining in a forum section made for the whiners kinda defeats the purpose, does it not?

     

    You know I really do enjoy your biting logic lol, even when I'm on the other side of it occasionally :)

    Also, man have you noticed the tremendous increase in "silence the vets" posts and comments since the announcement of the Bioware MMO?  Really seems to have stirred up a hornets' nest of SOE/SWG defenders.

     



     

    Yeah, I've noticed. it's funny on both sides, really. You have extreme fanbois who use the new Bioware mmo to rub salt in the wound, so to speak, of the "disgruntled refuges". On the other side, you have the extreme "refuges" who declare holy jihad on Bioware and their customers if Bioware doesn't make the game the way the "disgruntled" declare it should be made.

    Both sides seem to forget that Bioware and SOE, KotOR and SWG, are two different devs and two different games. Neither has anything to do with the other in terms of the other as far as game mechanics, gameplay, etc. are concerned.

    The only comparison between the two is which will have the bigger market share, and both share this concern with every other game on the market.

    Tbh I was surprised by people picking a fight with Bioware already too.  Unreasonable positions can be found on any side of a debate it seems 0_o.

     

  • Costanza420Costanza420 Member Posts: 77
    Originally posted by ArcAngel3

    Originally posted by Fishermage


     

    Originally posted by Costanza420


    Originally posted by ArcAngel3
     
    Also, man have you noticed the tremendous increase in "silence the vets" posts and comments since the announcement of the Bioware MMO?  Really seems to have stirred up a hornets' nest of SOE/SWG defenders.

     

     
     

    No. I haven't.

    You are seriously imagining things. Get off your cross -- you are not this persecuted class of gamer you claim to be.

     



    Wow, right on cue.

    Lol, well you must be right, there haven't been any silence the vet threads being posted recently at all (caution, don't read the title of this thread if you want to stick to your point of view--not you btw Fish, responding to the post above yours ^_^).

    I've also just left three other threads with the same level of complaining about vets' complaining--ironically.  In my experience there are usually only one or two of those threads active on any given evening lol.

    Anyways, I'm not sure what class you think I believe I'm a part of.  I don't feel particularly persecuted tbh--slightly defrauded a few years back maybe, but not persecuted.  I also don't take "you need to stop talking about how bad SOE is" comments as persecution.  Driving to work provides more persecution than this.

    If they threatened me if I wouldn't stop using free speech, well then I'd feel persecuted, but that's never happened.

    Freedom of expression is a good thing in my mind.  I wouldn't want to silence anyone who currently enjoys SWG for example.  Trying to silence people who disagree with you is kind of dictatorial isn't it?

    You said "tremendous increase." There has been no "tremendous increase."

  • FishermageFishermage Member Posts: 7,562


    Originally posted by Costanza420
    Originally posted by Fishermage  

    Originally posted by Costanza420

    Originally posted by Fishermage
     
     Originally posted by Costanza420
    Originally posted by ArcAngel3
     
    Also, man have you noticed the tremendous increase in "silence the vets" posts and comments since the announcement of the Bioware MMO?  Really seems to have stirred up a hornets' nest of SOE/SWG defenders.
     
     
     
    No. I haven't.
    You are seriously imagining things. Get off your cross -- you are not this persecuted class of gamer you claim to be.



     
     
    Wow, right on cue.




    I'm sorry, what?


    You said you hadn't noticed, then did exactly what he said people were doing :)
     


     
    Who am I attempting to "silence"?

    I see. telling him to "get off his cross" was meant to bolster and applaud him. Gotcha. Strange way you have of expressing support, but what-evah :)
  • FishermageFishermage Member Posts: 7,562


    Originally posted by Costanza420
    Originally posted by ArcAngel3
    Originally posted by Fishermage  

    Originally posted by Costanza420

    Originally posted by ArcAngel3
     
    Also, man have you noticed the tremendous increase in "silence the vets" posts and comments since the announcement of the Bioware MMO?  Really seems to have stirred up a hornets' nest of SOE/SWG defenders.
      
     
    No. I haven't.
    You are seriously imagining things. Get off your cross -- you are not this persecuted class of gamer you claim to be.


     

    Wow, right on cue.



    Lol, well you must be right, there haven't been any silence the vet threads being posted recently at all (caution, don't read the title of this thread if you want to stick to your point of view--not you btw Fish, responding to the post above yours ^_^).
    I've also just left three other threads with the same level of complaining about vets' complaining--ironically.  In my experience there are usually only one or two of those threads active on any given evening lol.
    Anyways, I'm not sure what class you think I believe I'm a part of.  I don't feel particularly persecuted tbh--slightly defrauded a few years back maybe, but not persecuted.  I also don't take "you need to stop talking about how bad SOE is" comments as persecution.  Driving to work provides more persecution than this.
    If they threatened me if I wouldn't stop using free speech, well then I'd feel persecuted, but that's never happened.
    Freedom of expression is a good thing in my mind.  I wouldn't want to silence anyone who currently enjoys SWG for example.  Trying to silence people who disagree with you is kind of dictatorial isn't it?


    You said "tremendous increase." There has been no "tremendous increase."

    I'd say you are wrong, and there's been a tremendous increase of people attacking vets for the sake of attacking them, whining about whining, and just a general shrillness to the NGE fans' tone.

    It's so much fun watching all this play out, although the hate is pretty sad.

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